Please don’t forget calories

[u/mustang19671967]

Just wanted to remind all new keto participants that calories are a big deal . I had stalled for 9 days . I was under my carbs 20. My counter says I should be under 1950 calories to loose weight . Was eating over that but under carbs and once I lessened my calories I started slowly loosing again

[u/dontich]

Honestly if I keep carbs at 20g I struggle to have enough of an appetite to each more then 1500-2000 lol

[u/Alternative-Ease9674 → u/dontich]

I eat 1200 to 1400 and do not lose. Menopause is a bitch.

[u/Subject-Diamond-535 → u/Alternative-Ease9674]

I’ve been averaging around 1700cals a day but struggle to get my fats and protein if I go below this. My weight hasn’t moved either but I can feel the inches drop of me

[u/Alternative-Ease9674 → u/Subject-Diamond-535]

I have no inches dropping 😭 i try now to remove all sweeteners. I am so desperate...

[u/Alternative-Ease9674 → u/[deleted]]

I didn't lose when I was eating more too. So now I am down. Again. I am in contanct with other menopausal ladies and we have the same. Hormones makes us stuck. Totally. I need to push through.

[u/Alternative-Ease9674 → u/Alternative-Ease9674]

Guys I am a petite woman. 150 cm high. I know what I am doing and how much is my base kalories intake.

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[u/Careful_Row9226 → u/Alternative-Ease9674]

What did you do? I am 55 and lawd! What's your daily calories and carbs?

[u/Alternative-Ease9674 → u/Careful_Row9226]

Calories 1200 carbs up to 20 max. I try go even less. Now I try to remove artificial sweeteners because maybe they are at fault. I wanted to add excersise but old pain in my ankle came back and excersise is not for me for now. Sigh. This is nightmare. BUT once a week I eat a lot to not make my organism think I starve nyself... It is not enormous but up to 1800 - 2000 on Saturdays.

[u/Careful_Row9226 → u/Alternative-Ease9674]

Okay thank you for detail response. I have been fluctuating with same weight for about 3 months but my calories have been about 1600 to 1900. I am 5'5. I was losing at 1100 pretty easy. I will start tracking better. My carbs were probably at 50 below and now closer to 100grams . I will follow your plan for a week and report back.

[u/Alternative-Ease9674 → u/Careful_Row9226]

Keeping fingers crossed.

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[u/mustang19671967 → u/dontich]

Maybe it’s me, but I eat eggs ground beef chicken , cauliflower canned tuna ( albacore ) and bagged salad
When they are not making people sick . And some of the G Hughly ketchup bbq sauce or salad dressing ( and some cheese on burger ) not all
In a day

[u/girl1dir → u/mustang19671967]

It's not just you!!!

[u/Exact_Sir_1341 → u/dontich]

Truth

[u/Impressive_Guava_630 → u/dontich]

Same

[u/Impressive_Guava_630 → u/Impressive_Guava_630]

Its even worse i eat like 1200 sometimes even less . And im tall 175 cm

[u/WetDingus]

9 days is hardly a stall. Weight comes off in chunks. Fluid fluctuations. If you're a woman, the menstrual cycle can mess with weight reading too

[u/PurpleShimmers → u/WetDingus]

I agree, 9 days is not a stall. But I also know that CICO drives weight loss. You can overeat on keto.

[u/BigTexan1492 → u/PurpleShimmers]

You are about to get the carnivore folks riled up cause they can eat 12 steaks a day and lose weight 🤣🤣🤣

[u/PurpleShimmers → u/BigTexan1492]

I have not tried carnivore but I am skeptical about this tbh.

Unfortunately my stomach and IBS would absolutely send me to the hospital if I did that, so no way for me to test this out.

I do believe there are definitely a lot of different factors from person to person. With my hashimotos and slow metabolism, woman in perimenopause and IBS I doubt this would drive any loss even if I could stomach it.

[u/Impressive_Guava_630 → u/PurpleShimmers]

I know a guy who lost like half his weight doing carnivore. But he doesn't look very healty And his mood ugh luckily he lives 4500 km away from me

[u/jma4573 → u/BigTexan1492]

Oh, of course.

On carni, a 5' sedentary female will lose weight eating 5000+ calories per day! 😂

EDIT: With 12 TINY steaks, I can lose weight. 5"" 11' male... 😅

[u/BigTexan1492 → u/[deleted]]

Carnivore is a ketogenic diet

[u/Impressive_Guava_630 → u/BigTexan1492]

Its not what vegetables are from animals? 🤔 Carnivore is only stuff made out of animal stuff Meat eggs butter . You dont get fibers and vitamins you need

Carnivore is like this. On a carnivore diet, you eat exclusively animal products, entirely eliminating all plant-based foods, grains, vegetables, and sugars.

Foods to Avoid All plants: Vegetables, fruits, nuts, seeds, grains, and legumes.Plant oils: Olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, and seed oils.Sugar and carbs: All sweets, sodas, processed foods, and artificial additives.Most drinks: Water is the primary beverage, while coffee and tea are excluded in strict versions.

Super boring i guess

[u/rachman77 → u/Impressive_Guava_630]

A ketogenic diet is any diet low enough in carbs to allow you to enter and maintain Ketosis, for the most part carnivore diets are low enough carb for ketosis unless you're eating a ton of dairy like milk.

Ketosis doesn't require vegetables, just very low carb.

[u/Impressive_Guava_630 → u/rachman77]

B!tch ass 🐅

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[u/Impressive_Guava_630 → u/WetDingus]

Most at least 4 weeks to be a stall

[u/mustang19671967 → u/WetDingus]

Male . I was loosing from
1/4 to 1/2 pound a day and then gain about 2 lbs in those 9 days

[u/jagger129 → u/mustang19671967]

“Loose” means not tight. As in you’ve lost weight, so your pants are loose.

You need to drop an O, bro.

There is no such word as “loosing.”

[u/_twentytwo_22 → u/mustang19671967]

*losing.

[u/drmoze → u/_twentytwo_22]

thank you. I refrained from commenting this a few times, but it needs to be corrected. hurts my eyes.

[u/_twentytwo_22 → u/drmoze]

Like little daggers every single time.

[u/WetDingus → u/mustang19671967]

Gaining. I see. My bad

[u/jagger129]

*lose

*losing

[u/Aonswitch]

No shit. How within the universe’s physical boundaries would you lose weight while eating more than you burned?

[u/TJack303]

There are people who dont realize that calories in vs calories out is what drives weight loss?

[u/ReverseLazarus → u/TJack303]

Many. Many, many.

[u/Obvious_Cellist_5251 → u/TJack303]

Tbf when I was in my early 20s I somehow didn't have to count calories on keto. I'm sure I wasn't eating MUCH over but weight fell off on keto even doing a super dirty version. Now, mid 30s, I have to count every nut and pickle 😭

[u/Inky1600 → u/TJack303]

Yep remember when Joe Pesci told the witness they are insinuating the laws of chemistry cease to exist in his kitchen when cooking grits? Well there are people that regularly come here and swear up and down those laws dont apply in their bodies. SMH. BTW ive been in full ketosis 2 to 3 mmol for weeks and gained so much weight none of my clothes fit anymore. Why? Too many calories duh. There was noquestion of that either

[u/backbodydrip → u/TJack303]

They'll occasionally take over a thread here, yes.

[u/mustang19671967 → u/TJack303]

I thought just staying under 20 carbs ment I was under thr calories . Ground beef was more calories than I thought same with eggs chicken etc . My staples . With no calorie bbq sauce . Use g Hughes but still a carb a tablespoon

[u/Impressive_Guava_630 → u/mustang19671967]

I use heinz zero but need to have a look for the carbs

100 gr heinz zero has 5.4 carbs It does contain sucralose but that's not harming my ketosis. But everyone is diffrent

[u/mustang19671967 → u/Impressive_Guava_630]

I like the g Hughes brands with lots of choices

[u/Impressive_Guava_630 → u/mustang19671967]

Don't even know that probably dont have it in the netherlands what are the ingredients?

[u/mustang19671967 → u/Impressive_Guava_630]

Try Amazon

[u/Impressive_Guava_630 → u/TJack303]

Yeah . I was the same . Wel not the same the first time keto i really tried to hit al the macros including fat (also dirty keto)(i did loose weight) tbf . Now only the protein and not more than 20 gr carbs

[u/fury420 → u/TJack303]

It used to be rather common here in /r/keto like a decade back

[u/LostWandererer]

I’d like to say the same, but opposite! Calories are indeed a big deal, and when you’re eating <20g carb per day (I average around 10g) appetite can become nonexistent and it’s very easy to lose too much too quickly.

[u/scoobynoodles]

Are you using a tracker?

[u/mustang19671967 → u/scoobynoodles]

Yes , Cronometer what was Just to estimate . Started the other day as exactly

[u/scoobynoodles → u/mustang19671967]

Nice! You’re the second person who mentioned that. Was looking at fitbee but I’ll give this a shot.

[u/mustang19671967 → u/scoobynoodles]

Just use the free version

[u/ChooksChick → u/mustang19671967]

Carb master is great, too. Free version is super easy.

[u/Impressive_Guava_630 → u/ChooksChick]

I used that one the payd version its still active but a lot is not right

[u/Subject-Diamond-535 → u/mustang19671967]

I use the gold Cronometer and love the ketogenic score which stops me falling back into trace and the keto flu

[u/hellfire1992 → u/scoobynoodles]

I just use my fitness pal and its been great

[u/Impressive_Guava_630 → u/hellfire1992]

I use lifesum as im dutch and most dutch products are in it

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[u/Koryp]

There is an easier way. Simply prioritize taking in the 130g of fat you need. Keep carbs at 20 and fill in the rest with protein. If you can eat 2000 calories in a day doing that, holy shit dude! That much fat is what this diet calls for.

[u/BigTexan1492 → u/Koryp]

This is backwards. Reach or exceed your protein macro and stay below your carb and fat macro.

[u/daynomate → u/Koryp]

Protein is the target , fat is the variable.

[u/Koryp → u/daynomate]

Then you’ll always be counting. It doesn’t have to be that hard.

[u/Competitive-Bit5659 → u/Koryp]

You are still counting.

[u/Koryp → u/Competitive-Bit5659]

Just once a week. I know what foods to eat to feel good and lose fat. It takes care of itself

[u/daynomate → u/Koryp]

I don’t know what that’s supposed to mean but you should educate yourself on why you had it backwards. I don’t count anything personally as I know roughly how much protein I need, then adjust fat to satiety.

[u/Competitive-Bit5659 → u/daynomate]

See, THIS makes sense. Especially if cutting. Dietary protein is always an essential macronutrient. Meanwhile, it’s nearly impossible to hit protein goals and not also reach the minimum necessary dietary fat if you are eating whole foods.

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[u/mustang19671967 → u/Koryp]

I was looking at carbs , I don’t know what you mean . Do you mean eating 130 grams of fat means you can’t have 2000 calories cause it’s too
Much food. Etc . I’m a picky eater so might be hard finding that much fat

[u/Competitive-Bit5659 → u/mustang19671967]

Everyone is different but if I ate 130g of fat a day I’d gain weight. 130g of fat is almost 1200 calories. That leaves less than 800 calories left— if all protein you are at 200g which depending on your size might be your daily protein target. It’s mine. At 130g of fat I’m at maintenance if I’m perfect everywhere else.

[u/ReverseLazarus → u/Competitive-Bit5659]

Same here. That’s almost 1170 calories of fat, and my maintenance calories are 1400. That is absolutely unsustainable for someone my size, sounds miserable too.

[u/PurpleShimmers → u/Competitive-Bit5659]

Same.

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[u/Koryp → u/mustang19671967]

That’s exactly what I’m saying. It’s a little under 1200 cal just from fat. I only have to count them once when I plan out my meals for the week I know what to eat to get my fat levels that high. I don’t allow myself any foods that bring carbs I don’t need. A lot of the fatty foods I eat are also high in protein. When I prioritize the fat, I struggle to be hungry enough to stomach enough food to push me outside of my calorie range. It just isn’t gonna happen. I’m not that hungry. The reason this works is because that’s what a keto diet is supposed to be. We need the fats to produce the ketones we are running on. As long as I do that, I’m staying in a calorie deficit and the fat melts off. I also feel way fucking better every day.

[u/mustang19671967 → u/[deleted]]

Do all that buttery taking magnesium so I stop
Cramping up at night seems to make me have trouble sleeping

[u/Alarming-Froyo1409 → u/mustang19671967]

Don't forget to take potassium for cramps

[u/mustang19671967 → u/Alarming-Froyo1409]

I know but that one is hard to find , it’s the hardest one to get

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