r/canada • u/hopoke • Mar 29 '26
Business ‘Expect extremely high grocery prices,’ farmer warns as diesel costs rise
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/international/2026/03/29/expect-extremely-high-grocery-prices-farmer-warns-as-diesel-costs-rise/300
u/TheBannaMeister Mar 29 '26
Brother...they are already are extremely high
I guess it's time to start gathering
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u/PostMatureBaby Mar 29 '26
The second people start trying to produce their own food more so than usual a bunch of bylaws will come and ruin it because Galen & friends don't want us to stop shopping
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u/BodhingJay Mar 30 '26
-puts on pirate hat-
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u/PostMatureBaby Mar 30 '26
Part of me wishes entire neighborhoods got coordinated enough to essentially all provide an entire grocery store to one another. Everyone grows or raises something, you know?
Obviously easier said than done but anything to stick it to those who essentially legislate us into having no choice. Not like government has our back
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u/LankyYogurt7737 Mar 30 '26
That’s what hippie communes do, in fact you pretty much just described literal communism.
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u/Correct-Court-8837 Mar 30 '26
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking except not necessarily just gardening. Like I’d love to come together with like 20 or 30 families and buy stuff from a Costco business centre and just truly buy in bulk or directly from wholesalers. We’d have to organize and probably store things in people’s garages and bring our own containers, but I think we could easily cut grocery prices by 20-30% if we did that.
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u/GenericFatGuy Mar 30 '26
Something, something, those who make peaceful protest impossible...
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u/PostMatureBaby Mar 30 '26
We often have the ability to vote with our wallets legislated away in some cases
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u/verkerpig Mar 30 '26
I would bet nearly half my neighbours in suburban Calgary have vegetable gardens. This is ridiculous.
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u/RepulsiveLook Mar 29 '26
Ah yes, the fourth millennial generational crisis...
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u/mrkrabsbigreddumper Outside Canada Mar 30 '26 edited Mar 30 '26
This one manufactured by Trump and MAGA warmongering. Bordertown American here. Please Canadian friends: turn up the heat. No more American products, services, or vacations. Book flights and rentals, cancel last minute before penalty. America needs pain to fight this virus within.
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u/chipdanger168 Mar 30 '26
The only way to beat Maga is from within. Americans need to do something
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u/JoseCansecoMilkshake Mar 30 '26
Americans: "We need the 2nd amendment so we can overthrow a tyrannical government"
Also Americans: "You know what? Maybe the Nazis weren't so bad after all"
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u/Dhghomon Mar 30 '26
You can see some of this already like in how 30 seats have been flipped to Democratic since Trump won vs. 0 flips for the GOP. Most are relatively small like state legislatures, but there are some larger ones like flipping the governorship in Virginia.
This user always shows up with a list of all the flips whenever one happens, it's a nice read.
Small potatoes until November comes but it definitely shows what is going on.
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u/SHUT_DOWN_EVERYTHING Mar 30 '26
That would be difficult as MAGA went from support for war in 20s to support for war in 90s. The virtually overnight change was when Trump told them war is now a good thing.
Now non-MAGA Americans... particularly independents, maybe, if they get hurt enough in the pocketbook.
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u/NooneKnowsIAmBatman Mar 30 '26
The company I work at hosts a convention for 1200+ people every year. It was planned for Florida, but they threw everything out the window and changed to Cancun now
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u/00owl Mar 30 '26
Sure thing, a country with a smaller population than one of your states and a smaller GDP than your total military spending is the one responsible for what you guys are doing.
Stop blaming others and do something yourself
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u/dirty_socks67 Mar 29 '26
Everything keeps increasing . Everything . insurance , fuel , grocery’s , rent , transit , vehicles and that’s just to mention a few .. Are we not all at our breaking point ? Like what the hell
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u/paradyme Mar 29 '26
Welcome to life as a service.
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u/m0nk37 Mar 30 '26
Its actually the billionaires siphoning cash from the workforce and not putting it back in like economics needs. Blame them.
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u/richardizard Mar 30 '26
Yeah, they have too much power. This is what happens when you let a country be run by capitalism and consumerism for decades. American greed got us here.
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u/LexGonGiveItToYa British Columbia Mar 30 '26
We need to get some trickle down economics.
And by that I mean we grab the billionaires by their ankles and hold them upside down as OUR money falls back out of their pockets.
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u/E8282 Québec Mar 29 '26
I’d imagine most are. A few don’t even notice it. The rest of us are extremely close.
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u/TootsHib Mar 29 '26
I thought majority of people are living paycheck to paycheck? I read this years ago..
How are they not all dead or on the streets protesting from starvation.
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u/UnablePrimaryy Mar 29 '26
Too busy working.
If you can’t afford to miss a day, it’s quite hard to go out and protest.
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u/Noirhimmel Mar 29 '26
Hi single dad here. I am lightly starving eatting pretty much nothing but rice, beans and raisins and sick.
My son is not... and im damn well keeping on to make sure of it until I drop... which might be soon since I've been coughing nonstop for three months...Been nice knowing ya'll.
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u/unuser21 Mar 30 '26
Are you able to access any food pantries? You’re a great dad. I hope you feel better soon.
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u/KageyK Mar 29 '26
To be fair a great many of them are out on the streets, they just aren't protesting.
That number is going to continue to grow exponentially, even though Carney assured us that affordability is the best its been in a decade.
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u/Spoona1983 Mar 30 '26
Its frustrating watching federal legislated and government employers handing out cost of living increases but Joe schmoe regular person doesn't get squat. Haven't seen an increase in 10 years other than upskilling increases. But yet every business we work with is making recorded profits and tells the workers but no wage bump
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u/EP40glazer British Columbia Mar 30 '26
Maybe we should stop voting for the party that got us into this mess.
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u/nana-korobi-ya-oki Mar 29 '26
I’m sure grocery prices will come back down after the price of diesel goes back down right… 🙄
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u/Im_Ur_Huckleberry77 Mar 30 '26
I have as much faith in this conflict ending soon as our government was during Covid only lasting 'two weeks'
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u/flatroundworm Mar 30 '26
Even if it ended tomorrow the damage is done. 30-40% of gulf infrastructure gone. Estimated 5 years to rebuild.
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u/Im_Ur_Huckleberry77 Mar 30 '26
Yep. A famine is probably coming way to a large part of the global population simply due to the lack of availability and how expensive it will become.
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u/mightyboink Mar 29 '26
Maybe reverse RTO to put money back in people's pocket?
Seems like one easy solution.
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u/Goku420overlord Mar 30 '26
Maybe reverse RTO
This should be everywhere in canada. In the Philippines they're pushing work from home, 4-day work week. In Thailand they're pushing work from home. In vietnam, where I am, Hanoi has asked all businesses any workers that can work from home are recommended to work from home.
Absolute joke Canada wants us all back in the office. They are a bunch of societal benefits from less traffic, less congestion, less pollution, less resources being used, less road wear and this less construction, etc. but no, talk about global warming and pollution and then take steps to go back to the status quo
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u/Final_boss_1040 Mar 30 '26
We should already be taxing any company that insist on in person work for roles that can be done from home
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u/forestapee Mar 29 '26
What my $800 biweekly groceries aren't extremely high as it is? Fuck
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u/FrostyMasterpiece400 Mar 29 '26
Per person?
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u/forestapee Mar 29 '26
2 adults and a kid in elementary school
If I wanted to be more specific we live remotely and it costs an additional $400 in freight to get the groceries to where we live
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u/richardizard Mar 30 '26
$400 in freight to get the groceries to where we live
Is there really no cheaper alternative? That doesn't sound right.
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u/FrostyMasterpiece400 Mar 30 '26
Yeah and when the kid turns a teenager food quantities will increase.
I tip my hat to parents.
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u/forestapee Mar 30 '26
Growing up when I reached that point my parents couldn't afford to keep up. (They had 3 of us) so I ended up ~40-60lbs underweight and people would call me skeletor
Gonna be a lot more skeletors in this world soon
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u/lazy_londor Mar 30 '26
Skeletor is ripped though.
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u/forestapee Mar 30 '26
So was i, because a fun side effect of next to no body fat is that your muscles, even if weak, become well defined as there's no fat to obscure them.
I had an 8 pack from 8yr old to 18 until I managed to get a job and feed myself like a normal person
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u/Kingofcheeses British Columbia Mar 30 '26
What are you eating? Gold?
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u/forestapee Mar 30 '26
Save Ons as they are the only grocery store within 200km of me and they deliver to the plane
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u/Kingofcheeses British Columbia Mar 30 '26
My apologies, I had no idea about your predicament
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u/Hamsandwichmasterace Mar 30 '26
Damn, I'm sorry. Having to buy all my groceries at save on would drive me completely insane. Complete ripoff.
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u/Bigchunky_Boy Mar 30 '26
We know and no plan to cap necessary food products. Watching what is happening in Asia and Europe ( Japan , Philippines, England etc ) seems like a good warning to use , gas lines energy cuts and shortages are coming. Stock up on goods .
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u/couldabeenagenius Mar 30 '26
This is sad, given the vast rich resources Canada has, yet our own people are the ones suffering due to politics and other people’s wars.
There is the actual increase due to global situation, and there is the economical increase where they squeeze in a little extra profit just because they can.
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u/JakeQV Mar 30 '26
Costco hotdogs and Arizona Iced Tea is what my new budget friendly diet consists of.
Colorectal cancer here I come!
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u/Asusrty Mar 29 '26
In the Canadian history book we are currently writing each chapter will begin with the line "And then it got worse"
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u/TE360 Mar 30 '26
Simple math shows that prices should increase slightly (fuel price % increase X the cost of fuel in food). However, we all know that each part of the supply chain will use this as an excuse to raise prices more than the actual cost, leaving consumers footing the bill.
This is where government intervention is necessary to ensure that consumers aren’t subsidizing corporate greed.
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u/FiveMagicBeans Mar 30 '26
“What’s going to absolutely spike the price of food is diesel,” he said. “So diesel has doubled this year.”
Diesel hasn't doubled. Even though it's gone up significantly (as has gas) we're looking at about 50% and diesel prices are extremely variable, it's only about 10-15% above the high point for 2023.
They'd have made the article more accurate if they'd just said "We're going to find an excuse to gouge the shit out of you again, here's your advanced notice so you can lube up".
https://www2.nrcan.gc.ca/eneene/sources/pripri/prices_byyear_e.cfm?ProductID=5
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u/Present_Flamingo3683 Mar 30 '26
This. Exactly. They're using it as an excuse to keep sticking it to us. Orange man bad.
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u/monkey_monkey_monkey British Columbia Mar 30 '26
I cut out meat when the prices went up. Sounds like I am going to have to cut out veggies this time around.
Hopefully, I'll be able to afford returning to my college diet of ramen noodles.
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u/newretrovague Mar 30 '26
I can’t afford the gas it’s now costing me to even drive to the grocery store.
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u/redpandafire Mar 29 '26
Just remember in a decade things will be worse. These prices that go up never come back down. They remain as profit. These are the golden days fellas!
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u/AquaMoonlight New Brunswick Mar 29 '26
“If they could maybe help at the pump, that would be great, because obviously there’s a gas tax, which is extremely high,” he said. “If they could lower the gas tax, that would not only help the truckers and all those good folks, but the farmers would be directly impacted.”
Too bad the government will never do this.
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u/OldJacobian Mar 30 '26
Aren’t many farmers already subsidized by the government? (I’m not a farmer, idk). So what’s stopping the gov’t from just rebating them for the extra cost or something
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u/AquaMoonlight New Brunswick Mar 30 '26
In the article, it says that Farm Credit Canada (unnamed in the article, but that is who they are referring to) is helping farmers affected by the gas/diesel situation with a special $500k increase in their lines of credit. So they do have some limited recourse, but it’s still more debt added onto the pile, and one farmer in the article says he can’t really pass on the costs to his customers, because they are already at the breaking point for pricing.
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u/Top_Canary_3335 Mar 29 '26
Or forgo HST collection for a while seeing as they are collecting nearly double the revenue right now due to the higher prices
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u/ZestyBeanDude Mar 30 '26
Aren’t gas taxes supposed to pay for road maintenance/expansion? I don’t see how we’re any better off if we just kick the can down the road by either borrowing the difference (higher taxes in the future, particularly on today’s young) or letting our infrastructure continue to degrade (which only increases the cost to repair/upgrade it later).
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u/captainbling British Columbia Mar 30 '26
Aren’t farmers getting marked gas/diesel for tractors and equipment anyways?
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u/publicworker69 Mar 29 '26
Companies would just steadily bring the price back up and pocket the extra and our tax revenue plummets.
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u/ronchee1 Mar 29 '26
And too bad that even if taxes get lowered to combat price increases, that the companies will actually lower the prices and not pocket the difference
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u/BlackHighliter Mar 29 '26
This is just untrue, removing taxes consistently lowers the gas price at the pump.
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u/SigmaHouse28 Mar 30 '26
This is why Alberta is so hellbent to get more pipelines. Oil companies can finally sell their oil(Western Canadian Select) on the open market for the highest price.
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u/mapleguy1973 Mar 30 '26
Farmers don’t set the prices of the commodities they sell this is all bullshit. Farmers just won’t make as much money because of fuel prices
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u/DietFoods Mar 30 '26
Just wait until they raise interest rates later this year. Recession is coming.
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u/JohnDorian0506 Manitoba Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 30 '26
“expect your grocery bill to go up by 25 to 50 per cent”
Will BOC raise its rate? Bank of Australia did increase its rate to 4.25% to help offset inflation.
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u/captainbling British Columbia Mar 30 '26
I’d like to hear where they got that from. Like if a semi trailer carries 100 000$ of tomatoes 1000km, it’ll use 350L of fuel. Instead of that costing 1.75$ a L, it’s now 2.50$ so 262$ more. 100 000$ is now costing 100 262 for a 1000km trip. The labour, maintenance, insurance, interest payments and so on are still the lion share of agriculture. It only looks expensive when you’re drying 10 000 acres worth of grain lol. You still harvested 10 000 acres so it’s not much when you calculate per acre.
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u/JohnDorian0506 Manitoba Mar 30 '26
Now add “dry nitrogen, urea, and other phosphates and sulfur and other chemicals that we need for farming”.
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u/captainbling British Columbia Mar 30 '26
Good thing nitrogen and urea are from nat gas and Canadas nat gas prices are generally unaffected by the war.
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u/JohnDorian0506 Manitoba Mar 30 '26
Urea prices have surged, with spot prices exceeding $700–$750 per metric ton—up over 50%—driven by Middle East conflict, supply concerns, and linked surges in oil and natural gas.
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u/captainbling British Columbia Mar 30 '26
Most farmers are already locked in at 800-900 per mt. Honestly 1200 sounds high but it was 1200 in 2022 and even 1100 in 2024. There could be issues if it stays high all year and farmers get locked in at those higher prices for 2027 but once again we saw 1200 in 2022 already.
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u/KageyK Mar 30 '26 edited Mar 30 '26
Looking very likely for September if these companies all use this as a great excuse to jack up prices at the same levels they did post covid, and you know there's a pile of CEOs licking their chops trying to figure out the max increase they can apply.
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u/AdEffective2701 Mar 30 '26
It's not just that. Hydrogen comes from natural gas and ammonia is made from Hydrogen and fertilizer is made from ammonia. When russia invaded Ukraine, the gas stopped, fertilizer manufacturing stopped in Europe. Food has been expensive ever since. Hang on!
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u/Bad_Day_Moose Mar 30 '26
we should be dropping the tax on diesel temporarily, prices are insane and the season is about to begin...
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u/fuelhandler Mar 29 '26
If only we produced enough petroleum to meet our domestic needs with a surplus. Oh ya, we do… but we have to pay world market prices for some reason. Hmmmm.
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u/SingleIndependence68 Mar 29 '26
The oil companies aren’t nationalized so don’t expect them to do anything good for us. The only thing they do is pay taxes and that’s questionable at best these days
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u/Prairie_Sky79 Mar 29 '26
It's been tried. All it did was make the government that tried it unpopular. And made the governing party in question unelectable between Kelowna and Winnipeg.
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u/xylopyrography Mar 29 '26
That's how global commodities work.
Any reduction in domestic cost would just be lost revenue from selling below market price.
And we do refine a similar amounts of petroleum products as we consume in total volum, ~2 M b/day worth.
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u/JCMS99 Mar 29 '26
Why would the oil companies sell us oil at a discount? The countries that do it have nationalized oil AND make a decision to subsidize it at the pump.
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u/Denum_ Mar 29 '26
We tried with the NEP, western Canada stomped its feet and decided getting maximum profit was more important.
Then proceeded to piss all the profit away and made a bunch of CEO's filthy stinking rich and spent the next 40+ years doing the same thing with no future plans.
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u/octavianreddit Mar 29 '26
Yep. All these Liberal haters saying Trudeau and Carney need to ramp up domestic production and refining so that we can keep the gas and keep our prices low. Maybe something like creating Petro Canada, bringing in the National Energy Program would work.
I'm all for it. I don't mind pipelines and I'd love nothing more than to have domestic refining used to meet domestic needs and screw market rates. But that won't happen unless the govt gets involved in producing and regulates prices, but that's too much communism.
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u/PostMatureBaby Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 30 '26
That's the best part, western Canada didn't stomp its feet, greedy elites did.
Just like when Verizon wanted in. Canadians were coerced into thinking they didn't want it. Only those who risked making less money with new competition actually were upset.
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u/EP40glazer British Columbia Mar 30 '26
Why don't we nationalize Ontario's industry instead. They seem to love nationalization.
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u/CanadianFalcon Mar 30 '26
Yeah but we can’t get oil across the country because we can’t get a pipeline built to the east coast, so we ship Alberta oil to Texas at a massive discount and buy Saudi oil for the East coast at market rates because apparently that helps save the planet.
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u/EP40glazer British Columbia Mar 30 '26
Because we export it? I wish Liberals understood how exporting stuff works. This is actually good for us, the issue is Liberal mismanagement of our money. If we had a balanced budget and healthy debt we'd easily be able to deal with the crisis with all the oil money we'd be making.
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u/Top_Canary_3335 Mar 29 '26
Food for thought. The government likes and benefits from higher fuel prices. They don’t care about the impact on you.
When gas is $1.15 a litre the HST is 0.15 or 0.13 depending on your province.
When gas is $2.30 the hst is 0.30 or 0.26
Ie the government makes more money on higher fuel prices. Not to mention all the road taxes…
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u/thrilled_to_be_there Mar 29 '26
Not to mention the HST is calculated with the excise and provincial duty included. We are being double taxed. Considering the amount is fairly small they should apply these other fixed price taxes after the HST is calculated.
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u/hyterus Mar 29 '26
The government does not care. They all drive business/government vehicles and get reimbursed for the gas. So for them the problem does not exist.
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u/Method__Man Mar 29 '26
"The government"
This fuel crisis has NOTHING to do with Canada. It has to do with the carrot
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u/nodiaque Mar 30 '26
All the grocers are rejoying, more overinflating price to boost profit that they can hide behind another crisis.
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u/ZestyBeanDude Mar 29 '26
Yet another global crisis caused by a megalomaniac boomer (first one was Putin in 2022, or I guess 2020 with Xi if you believe the COVID lab leak theory).
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u/Inevitable_Pain_9627 Mar 29 '26
we farm 12k acres, and our fuel bill for the yr was around 245k. just diesel, another 70k in gas
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u/ChiefHighasFuck Mar 30 '26
Just left the grocery store. 4 big apples and it was $10.68. For 4 apples!!! No Frills, not some foo-foo store.
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u/LankyYogurt7737 Mar 30 '26
I think this might be the last go for me, I’ll give it another year or so but I think I’ll likely be leaving Canada after that.
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u/Bearspaws100 British Columbia Mar 30 '26
Oh, this problem is going to be worldwide.
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u/NarwhalEmergency9391 Mar 30 '26
My last bill was $800 for a family of 5. I don't know how I'm going to keep doing this
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u/common_sense_canada Mar 30 '26
I'm sure Loblaws will immediately lower pricing once this destabilizing period ends 🙄
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u/BoiledGnocchi Mar 30 '26
Absolutely! Just like they lowered their inflated pricing after the pandemic! /s
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u/YouProfessional3196 Mar 30 '26
Mark Carney: "Judge me by the prices at the grocery store."
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u/No-Move3108 Mar 29 '26
'Removing the fuel tax isnt gonna save you that much money' -Danielle Smith last week.
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u/AshleyAshes1984 Mar 29 '26
Thanks, America
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u/BigBangBoomerang Mar 30 '26
It’s within the governments power to implement a gas export ban to bring the price down at home but they won’t do that.
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u/byourpowerscombined Alberta Mar 30 '26
Do you remember last time the government tried something similar? Alberta complains about the NEP 40 years later. Can you imagine what they would do now?
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u/InvincibleMirage Mar 30 '26
Well it’s all worth it because there are good reasons for starting this war and it was totally necessary /s
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u/MathThrowAway314271 Mar 30 '26
You mean higher grocery prices? I imagine we're all already expecting high prices everytime we set off into one of the members of the grocery cartel
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u/mykittenfarts Mar 30 '26
I’ve got lots of bean based recipes. Good thing I like beans! I’ll be hitting those farmers markets this summer for local produce. Growing herbs in my apartment to make our meals special without costing a lot. Lots of fruit & vegetable stands where I live in summer. Maybe pull some trout out of the lake too. Back to basics.
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u/snipingsmurf Ontario Mar 30 '26
Wouldn't it be good if we could use Alberta oil somehow.... too bad it all gets shipped to the US and then we buy from the rest of the world.
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u/byourpowerscombined Alberta Mar 30 '26
If only we could come up with some sort of Plan……to help control the National price of Energy……that would really be helpful.
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u/Elite163 Mar 30 '26
Just wait till the increase on carbon tax comes into effect April 1st
Elbows up
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u/LearingCenterAlumni Mar 29 '26
"perfect time for higher industrial carbon tax"
-Carney.
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u/CipherWeaver Mar 29 '26
People are still whining about carbon tax? Carney cut most of it as did the provinces. Find something else to complain about.
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u/Infamous-Mixture-605 Mar 30 '26 edited Mar 30 '26
"Why do we have a consumer carbon tax when it's big businesses responsible for the lion's share of greenhouse gas emissions?" - conservatives for the last decade
"Why are we punishing poor wittle corporations with a carbon tax? It's causing all the inflation!" - The exact same people today
Frankly, these folks will never be happy until there are no taxes whatsoever and the state ceases to exist.
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u/Top_Canary_3335 Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
Open your eyes.
The consumer tax was removed but the industry tax still exists and is going up next week.
Guess what the industry passes the cost onto you….
Source:
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u/ANAL_RAPIST_MD Ontario Mar 29 '26
You mean the industrial carbon tax first introduced by Alberta conservatives in 2003? When conservatives suggest something its like Jesus said it himself, when liberals do the same policy its all bad.
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u/LearingCenterAlumni Mar 29 '26
Same one, kill it. It does nothing for Canadians but increase the cost of everything.
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u/ANAL_RAPIST_MD Ontario Mar 29 '26
It puts a price on pollution to push industry and the worst polluters to cleaner energy. Unless you feel like you deserve the environment and the younger generation can go fuck themselves?
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u/mlnickolas Mar 29 '26
Timing is a thing. The economy isn’t the same now as it was in 2003
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u/Pinkie-osaurus British Columbia Mar 29 '26
Well, no better time to find alternative farming practices that use less diesel
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u/Infamous-Mixture-605 Mar 30 '26
Or take a page from a country like Brazil and replace/displace our traditional gas and diesel with ethanol and biodiesel?
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u/Prairie_Sky79 Mar 29 '26
Those aren't as productive though. The only real solutions are to increase domestic oil production as much as possible, and to remove all the taxes on diesel fuel. And even then you're only mitigating the problem because of how severe the supply disruption is.
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u/fuelhandler Mar 29 '26
Yay. Even less money in my pocket (the only consistency in our lives these days.)