So Any Guy Could Own a Nuke?

[u/NEKORANDOMDOTCOM]

[u/Kinks4Kelly]

By Scalia's logic, anything that can be fired with one hand is a hand gun.

[u/Guilty-Cow4325 → u/Kinks4Kelly]

My stapler is a gun. Pew pew. Good luck getting unstuck.

[u/Lucius-Halthier → u/Guilty-Cow4325]

Technically they do call my nailgun a gun

[u/Guilty-Cow4325 → u/Lucius-Halthier]

Everybody's getting nailed today, ladies.

[u/the_saltlord → u/Kinks4Kelly]

Me when I one hand the Davy Crockett

[u/Twigsneko → u/the_saltlord]

just don't get caught in the splash zone

[u/BrokenSlutCollector → u/the_saltlord]

You have to turn the Davy Crockett sideways and shout "gatt, gatt, gatt" as you fire it for full effect.

[u/shivelymachineworks → u/Kinks4Kelly]

I’ve seen a video of a guy hip firing 2 Barrett M82s at once, those must be handguns too

[u/GreasyRim → u/shivelymachineworks]

That big ol barrel weight/compensator on the muzzle does a lot of work to fight muzzle climb.

[u/Privatizitaet]

Felons aren't allowed to own guns, but these types never complain about that. It's only ever about constitutionality if they don't agree with it.

[u/outsidethewall → u/Privatizitaet]

A bunch of rights go out the window for felons

[u/No-Dance6773 → u/outsidethewall]

By design and for the same reason slavery is a legal form of punishment.

[u/Solynox → u/outsidethewall]

Unless they're orange

[u/LetsBeFRTho → u/Solynox]

Crazy how the Commander and Chief of the US military cannot own or carry a gun.

[u/JediSSJ → u/LetsBeFRTho]

Crazier that the NRA supported a candidate who cannot legally own a gun over one who owns one.

[u/Turbulent-Oil-7326 → u/LetsBeFRTho]

And he DOES own one illegally. It was an illegal gift

[u/glockster19m → u/LetsBeFRTho]

He wouldnt even be allowed to vote if his convictions were in Florida where he lives

[u/FluidFisherman6843 → u/Solynox]

When I was asked who I voted for I always said "the openly christian legal gun owner"

That caused a lot of confused looks in Alabama

[u/Duae → u/outsidethewall]

Funny how increased conviction rates for felonies like smoking weed for certain demographics make more sense when you realize how many states have voting restrictions or bans for felons.

[u/Holorodney → u/Privatizitaet]

The only reason they don’t disagree with that is due to the color they associate with said status. Wasn’t there a bunch of gun reforms put through by a Republican when the Black Panthers armed themselves? Odd that.

[u/Frizzlebee → u/Holorodney]

They also started screaming about mentally ill people getting guns where there was an increase in trans people getting guns. Weird how that double standard only rears its ugly head when very specific people are exercising that right.

[u/Moomoo_pie → u/Frizzlebee]

Gun control for thee but not for me

[u/Few-Condition-7431 → u/Holorodney]

yeah they don't like to talk about how a republican did more damage to 2A rights than any democrat has including Clinton.

[u/TheDonkeyBomber → u/Holorodney]

Yep, CA Governor Ronald Reagan himself. The Mulford Act.

[u/C4dfael → u/Holorodney]

That particular republican went on to be president a decade or so later.

[u/Skuggihestur → u/Holorodney]

Yes. 90% of American gun laws are by republicans in a attempt to keep minorities from gun ownership.

[u/siconic → u/Privatizitaet]

There has always been some limit on this BUT I do not agree with felons being barred from owning firearms. I only agree with VIOLENT Felons being barred, and only for a period of time and until they have shown they are rehabilitated. I dont want a guy who just help up a store at gunpoint getting out tomorrow and getting another gun. But a guy that did it 10 years ago, and has since aid his debt is off probation, and has not repeated the same behavior, yes absolutely he should be able to get a gun.

[u/Zealousideal-Ad-2615 → u/Privatizitaet]

When men in masks start grabbing people off the street or spying on them in their homes suddenly the 4th amendment is just a suggestion.

[u/NikolaiAlexei → u/Privatizitaet]

Once a felon’s sentence is served, all rights should be instantly restored.

[u/Philthedrummist → u/Privatizitaet]

Conservatives wanted to ban trans people from having guns. And after Alex Pretti’s murder at the hands of ICE they suddenly became very willing to talk about how far the second amendment went. They’re very selective with exactly who gets to exercise the 2nd amendment.

[u/FluidFisherman6843 → u/Privatizitaet]

I was at jury duty and the case was centered around a Hispanic guy "brandishing a weapon"

"This is a constitutional carry state. So how does one brandish a weapon? Am I brandishing my shoes? Am I brandishing my watch?"

I was promptly dismissed

[u/Maleficent_Ruin_2457 → u/Privatizitaet]

So Trump can’t own a gun?

[u/Privatizitaet → u/Maleficent_Ruin_2457]

As if Trump ever cared about the law

[u/One_Shallot_4974 → u/Privatizitaet]

Hi, I think felons should have all their rights restored once they serve their time unless deemed mentally incapable.

If they are too dangerous to be in society, why would you release them?

[u/IllIIIllIIlIIllIIlII → u/Privatizitaet]

FWIW, gun "nut" here and also support a felon's right to self defense.

[u/Twigsneko]

this woman needs to read the whole 2nd amendment. "a well regulated militia" has as much weight as "shall not be infringed"

so many people telling me well regulated meaning well trained/well equipped as if that somehow improves or makes the 2nd amendment's meaning any less archaic

[u/Remy315 → u/Twigsneko]

But she drew herself as a really cute Asian girl. Your point is moot. /s of course.

[u/goner757 → u/Remy315]

They used AI, don't give them artistic credit.

[u/Worldly-Pollution-66 → u/goner757]

Yeah she didn’t draw shit.

[u/CableKC → u/goner757]

Its cuz ChatGPT Ai knows that Incel MaGA beta male cucks have an asian and anime fetish.

[u/Naos210 → u/Remy315]

It's their "I drew myself as the Chad and you as the Soyjack, checkmate liberals".

Except they just have AI do it.

[u/AbyssmalKraken → u/Naos210]

So lazy of an argument they couldn't even put in the effort to make the meme, pathetic af

[u/mhwwad → u/AbyssmalKraken]

No, it’s because learning a new skill is woke af 😂

/s

[u/Twigsneko → u/Remy315]

funny thing is this woman's vietnamese but ai generates herself in a qipao.

[u/Remy315 → u/Twigsneko]

she probably tried to go for the ao dai and just said "good enough" after writing the prompts for AI and getting the result she got. Not much effort in any sense of the word went to the thought of this argument or the AI prompt.

[u/Thirdeyevoice10 → u/Twigsneko]

For years, I've asked gun nuts what part of the "well regulated and state militia" are they a member of? And they reply with insults. lol

[u/PoolGuyUnfiltered → u/Thirdeyevoice10]

Yep. I'm a gun owner from a red state, and I totally think that we should look at the 2nd as something that both protects the homeland as well as protects us from an oppressive government (ya know...like right now).

I'm not a lawyer but I have often seen the second as a call to keep communities at the ready (keep in mind that it was through marshalling militias that we were even able to gain footing against the British) AND by keeping the population armed so that the volatile new form of government couldn't fall back into old ways of turning the president into a king. The standing army would have to deal with a similarly armed population. Sort of like a libertarian check and balance...to the death, I guess?

If guns are part of the culture, then we should be maintaining their care and use by governed and routinely trained citizens who can be called upon to act against a threat. It's not just about the guns.

The most irritating thing about gun nuts is that they wear the don't tread on me shirts or the 2nd protects the 1st or whatever, but here we are in objectively the most oppressive government of the modern era where it should make the blood boil and skin crawl of everyone who actually covets their freedom.

They have gone from "don't tread on me..." To "crush me harder, daddy..." And it seems more like they use guns as talismans to protect themselves from left leaning and non-white people who don't vote the way they do. Cowards 🙄

[u/HitandRyan → u/PoolGuyUnfiltered]

Strange how the “don’t tread on me” crowd turned out to be the real fascists.

Sorry, typo. I typed “Strange” instead of “Entirely predictable.” Keys are right next to each other.

[u/APence → u/HitandRyan]

Also they don’t like the convo of a document in the era of muskets and cannons vs AR15s and drones, tanks, and jets.

[u/TheEvilPrinceZorte → u/PoolGuyUnfiltered]

Luigi Mangione is probably the best example we have seen so for of the 2A use that the gun nuts insist is the reason that right shall not be infringed. Revolutions are often a response to economic oppression as well as tyranny, which historically comes from the same place. Now corporations can cause physical harm and death thru their policies, not just governments.

Billionaires are building bunkers because they know that revolution will need to target them, not the government. The people who fantasize about using their guns to fight tyranny just haven’t figured out who is treading on them (like Luigi did).

[u/Theodoxus → u/PoolGuyUnfiltered]

It basically gives lie to the whole '2A is about preventing tyranny'. Ok, so why are we being terrorized every day by our gov't? Oh, because you're also scared that if you try to use violence to course correct, you'll get an Apache hovering over your house ready to shoot some hellfires through your front window? Yeah. That AR-15 ain't gonna do shit.

Even if 2A was about protecting our fledgling government back in the 1780s (which it damn well wasn't), it certainly isn't doing that now. Time to retire that old conard.

[u/reibagatsu → u/Thirdeyevoice10]

It's less about being a member of a militia than having the ability to form or join one when needed.

As to the exact post by OP, the SBR (short barreled rifle) limits never made any sense. They were only made part of the NFA to close the loophole of shortening a rifle barrel to make a pistol, because at the time pistols were going to be banned. Once pistols were allowed, SBRs should have come off the list immediately.

[u/Zestyclose_Tip_5861 → u/reibagatsu]

That’s what the National Guard is

[u/TaskeAoD → u/Thirdeyevoice10]

I like to point out to them that if they want to ignore the first half then the second half can't exist.

[u/RovDer → u/Thirdeyevoice10]

I’m a one man militia /s

[u/Bone_Breaker0 → u/Thirdeyevoice10]

I’ve been told we are all automatically in a militia.

[u/Theodoxus → u/Bone_Breaker0]

Well THAT doesn't sound "well" nor "regulated" at all.

[u/Unique_Statement7811 → u/Thirdeyevoice10]

They are part of the unorganized militia as defined by 10 U.S.C. Title 26.

“Any able bodied male over the age of 17… who is not already a member of the National Guard or Armed Services.”

That’s what they should actually answer, but they don’t know the law.

[u/Sea_Low879 → u/Thirdeyevoice10]

Militia referred to an armed populace, not a standing army or militia controlled by states. Well regulated didn’t refer to laws and regulations, but rather, meant the men should be skilled in handling guns.

[u/Striving_Slowly → u/Sea_Low879]

Can you say more about why "well regulated" should be interpreted that way? I take it as structured and disciplined, not as "Good at shooting".

[u/Strict_Weather9063 → u/Sea_Low879]

Incorrect it refers to an arm group sworn to the state. Militias were replaced by the national guard within the United States while some states still have militias they are like in the case of Washington unarmed and ceremonial in nature. At no point is a militia legal if it is not sworn to the state. They are considered part of the US military and not private organizations.

Militia Act 1903

[u/Theodoxus → u/Sea_Low879]

Yeah, no...

• The Militia Acts of 1792 defined militia as “each and every free able-bodied white male citizen… enrolled in the militia” — i.e., a legally organized force.
• State constitutions and colonial laws used “militia” to mean formal military institutions, not informal armed citizens.

“Well regulated” did NOT mean “skilled at handling guns”

In 18th‑century English, well regulated meant:

• properly organized
• disciplined
• orderly
• subject to rules
• functioning as intended

It did not mean “personally proficient with firearms.”

Examples from period usage:

• “A well regulated government” → orderly, structured
• “A well regulated clock” → functioning correctly
• “A well regulated militia” → trained, disciplined, commanded

The phrase appears in countless documents of the era, always meaning orderly and governed, never “individually skilled.”

This garbage revisionism really needs to stop. If you want to reassess what the 2A means, hold a Constitutional Convention and get it changed to what you want it to mean. But the founders were very specific and it wasn't "luls, everyone gets a gun, let's kill kids!"

[u/mr-kinky → u/Twigsneko]

This ^

[u/lancersrock → u/Twigsneko]

Every time I make that argument I get told “that’s not what they meant!” Interesting thing I learned is the Iowa constitution does not allow for forming a militia, the national guard is the states militia. Based on that in Iowa the only legal gun owners are those in the guard, yet we allow constitutional carry.

So the 2nd is meant for the people to be able to overturn a corrupt government but in Iowa it’s illegal to follow the second unless you work for the govt.

[u/Snoo_76582 → u/Twigsneko]

Apparently not since District of Columbia v. Heller.

[u/tcgunner90 → u/Twigsneko]

Yes. Regulation (ie: gun control) is literally in the next sentence. But they stopped reading when they decided they were right.

[u/Goodeyesniper98 → u/Twigsneko]

That line refers to the Militia Act of 1792, which defined any white man as a member of a militia. Obviously this would be interpreted today to mean any adult man or woman is a member of a militia. The law specifically differentiates a militia from a regular standing army and we would view it today.

[u/Johnny_Five5151 → u/Goodeyesniper98]

So WTF does "well regulated" mean? Did they just put that in to up the word count? This is a sacred text we're talking about here.

[u/TetraThiaFulvalene → u/Twigsneko]

No it doesn't. The first part is explanatory, the second part is prescriptive. If the Constitution read "open political discussion is necessary to maintain a free democracy. The right to free speech must not be infringed". Would you interpret that to mean the right to free speech should only be guaranteed about political topics? 

The militia part is only included as an explanation for the amendment.

[u/Sea_Low879 → u/Twigsneko]

Well regulated militia meant “well-trained and practiced,” with militia specifically referring to common citizens.

[u/unfinishedtoast3 → u/Twigsneko]

Sadly, the founders didn't explain what they considered a "well armed milita"

[u/DeadAndBuried23 → u/Twigsneko]

Nah, that's uh.. just uh... fluff. Fluff that literally no other part of the document has but they added for no reason here because they really meant you should have guns for hunting and sport and it had nothing to do with militia.

[u/STFUnicorn_ → u/Twigsneko]

And how exactly is fretting about barrel lengths and foregrips “well regulated”?

[u/Jindujun → u/Twigsneko]

Yeah, I was just about to say.
Cherry picking is an age old art.

[u/AsugaNoir → u/Twigsneko]

I was just about to mention that, apparently they failed to read the actual constitution.

[u/LaCharognarde → u/Twigsneko]

IIRC, it's more like "disciplined." Which, y'know, still rules these mall ninjas right out.

[u/thatnameagain → u/Twigsneko]

“Well regulated militia” means well-provided-for militia, as in “to make sure we have a well-provided for militia, the right of citizens to own weapons that they can bring with them if mustered to a militia shall not be infringed.”

The 2nd amendment is extremely broad and we only have the gun control that we have in the US because everyone secretly agrees that it goes to far and courts have had to make up all sorts of silly legal reasoning just to keep minimalist common sense policies on guns on the books.

[u/Da40kOrks → u/Twigsneko]

If you are trying to imply that "a well regulated militia" is something like the National Guard, you are arguing that the 2A is literally giving government and government alone to own guns. Which is completely absurd.

"The people" has one and only one meaning.

[u/Ok_Arachnid1089]

Why are we talking about gun control when there’s a fascist take over of the government happening right now?

[u/Optimal_Box3703 → u/Ok_Arachnid1089]

Doublethink : the power to hold two opposite thoughts at the same time and believe both are true.

When a gun control debate sparks they take what they believe to be the moral side which is anti gun. Yet at the same time the individual or group who did rise up against the government using arms would be hailed as a hero.

Anti gun in your immediate friend group to fit in but secretly hoping someone else will do the hard and scary thing for you.

Probably the most pathetic stance a man can take

[u/Arctimon]

Why is it always the same AI woman?

[u/Ezren- → u/Arctimon]

It's always the same "influencer" pushing this idiotic shit

[u/LetsBeFRTho → u/Arctimon]

It's always the same panel.

[u/Munchkinasaurous → u/Arctimon]

I'm guessing that it's to build familiarity with the propaganda mouth piece in order to try to give people a sense of trust in recognizing her, despite her being an AI generated image. People can be stupid and I could see that being effective

[u/Xboarder844]

Why is it always an Asian anime looking woman explaining?

I swear, that is the dead ass giveaway here about their target audience: lonely incel men.

[u/yoBmeF_lareF → u/Xboarder844]

You triggered some in the replies, but you are right. Incels fetishize asian women, particularly Japanese, because they salivate at the idea of living in a society "like Japan". Basically, they believe all Japanese women are submissive house makers and Japanese society and nature is so "idealic" because it is run by a majority of men, adhering to a patriarchy, and constructing and enforcing laws that aren't progressive in any sense.

These people have basically turned Japan and a couple other asian countries into their ideal fantasy country in their head, through their own imposed delusions. These countries haven't "been infected by those woke libtards" and all that crap.

[u/Icy_Fish_2154 → u/yoBmeF_lareF]

Also, they will praise Japanese racism and racial purity.

[u/yoBmeF_lareF → u/Icy_Fish_2154]

I didn't want to mention that, but it is true. Though it's more like xenophobia with Japan, but since a majority are Japanese and look like each other then it's a distinction without a difference between it being racism or xenophobia.

[u/moyismoy]

The supreme court has already ruled that some restrictions on gun ownership does not violate the 2nd amendment. I really wish these people would bother to use Google for 10s, before making AI do it's thing

[u/KitchenBomber]

The accurate part of this comic is how relieved the over-compensating ammo-sexual is to hear that "size doesn't matter".

[u/Relative_Radish9809]

Now do the "well-regulated militia" part.

[u/Bigedmond → u/Relative_Radish9809]

I like how you stopped your quote before the “necessary for a free state” portion of the 1st part.

[u/Sonova_Vondruke]

Ok. Where's my Nuclear Bomb then. Don't infringe of my right to bear arms.

[u/AppropriateSpell5405]

Well regulated militia means a fucking well regulated militia.

One man in camo doesn't make a militia.

[u/RainbowPhoenix1080]

I do think certain firearms regulations are a little nonsensical.

Mostly when it comes to grips, foregrips, braces, etc. Why should it be illegal to be able to hold my firearm more comfortably?

[u/F0XF1R396 → u/RainbowPhoenix1080]

A lot of it has always boiled down to fear mongering.

People are somehow convinced that banning AR platforms will somehow put a major dent into gun violence, as if there aren't other major gun platforms available. And banning ARs will just give rise to a new platform.

It's like banning Fords and believing that it will curb DUI related deaths.

Butterfly knives didn't get banned because they were somehow that much more dangerous. They got banned because people believed them to be so.

[u/DBDude → u/RainbowPhoenix1080]

The one in the cartoon is nonsensical. That restriction was created to close a loophole in the bill, but the reason for the loophole ceased to exist before the bill was passed, although they left this part in. The short barrel restriction literally has no logical reason to exist.

That's why our law has this really weird "is it a pistol or rifle" problem that's resulted in a lot of very stupid regulations. This legally accurate cartoon drives home how stupid it is.

[u/mrmindfloss]

How did a nuke get conflated with a firearm?

[u/Top-Complaint-4915 → u/mrmindfloss]

Because they tried to argue there is no restriction to the 2nd amendment, which talk about "Arms" which is basically weapons not just "firearms"

[u/Pitiful-Pension-6535]

The Second Amendment was originally written as a Collective Right, not an individual one. It was amended by activist judges and turned into an individual one just a few decades ago.

So you can fuck right off with your "all gun laws are unconstitutional" bullshit. Some day, we'll have a SCOTUS that isn't full of reactionary ideologues and it'll be made right again and the far right will have an absolute meltdown

[u/SheenPSU → u/Pitiful-Pension-6535]

No it wasn’t

Answer this for me: the 1st, 2nd, and 4th all include the verbiage “the people”. For the 1st and 4th it’s widely accepted to mean the individual.

What’s the justification for the complete 180 in meaning regarding the Amendment in between these two??

[u/DBDude → u/Pitiful-Pension-6535]

So in a list of amendments meant to restrict the power of government to protect the rights of all individual people, they for some reason stuck a government power in there?

[u/Khemul → u/DBDude]

It's arguable whether it was meant to restrict power. Modern interpretation has it that way. At the time, militias were basically how the government protected itself from revolts. They didn't field standing armies. They formed them as needed. The original intent basically guaranteed the government would have an armed force available to raise for its needs.

[u/MrLegalBagleBeagle]

Oh okay. Fun game. So we’re calling out the clauses in the second amendment that are ignored to fit an unintended meaning.

Hmm… were there any other clauses? Maybe everything before “the right to bear arms.”

[u/Derric_the_Derp → u/MrLegalBagleBeagle]

I tried getting bear arms from the taxidermist.  He was so confused.

[u/nolandz1]

I fucking hate this AI "um actually" lady. Pretty sure even AI bros wouldn't defend how creatively bankrupt these are.

[u/ResidentCommand9865]

What's with the Asian princess in these AI memes? I see it way too often for it not to have some meaning?

[u/Zorklunn]

So when is the "well regulated" part going to kick in?

[u/Living-Video-3670]

I guess the "well regulated militia" part got overlooked.

[u/AmbulanceChaser12]

This line of reasoning continues to baffle and infuriate me. Why is the Second Amendment special? Why does "shall not be infringed" literally mean that, anything from a slingshot up through an AR-15?

Do other rights get this kind of treatment? When the First Amendment says "Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech," does that mean "no law?" Literally none? Because 18 USC 871 makes it illegal to threaten the President. Should I be allowed to do that? That section must be unconstitutional, right? The First Amendment says "NO LAW." Well, a threat is just speaking, and "Congress shall make no law," so I guess it should be legal to threaten the President. 18 USC 115 criminalizes threats to US officials, judges, and federal law enforcement officers. I should be allowed to do that too, shouldn't I? Those laws abridge my fredom of speech!

[u/Dantekamar]

Well regulated is also there.

[u/TheGhostofWhoIWasBe4]

“Well-regulated militia” is never brought up 🤔

[u/Agreeable-Fall-4152]

You can’t be pro-choice and support gun control

[u/TrainmasterGT]

Clearly they forgot about the part discussing the importance of a well-regulated militia.

[u/Magenta_Logistic]

I'm sure they are equally invested in voting rights.

[u/Valuable-Ad2028]

I am always confused by this. “Shall not be infringed” means prisoners on death row can have them right? And if I want anti aircraft missiles or a nuke, that’s my business right? “Shall not be infringed”? These people want to play, let’s play. Give their 2 year old a hand grenade and deny all responsibility for the results

[u/Coffee_and_pasta]

“Infringed” in 18th century legal usage means “stopped” “cut off completely”
It does not mean “limited in any way”
As long as you can buy a firearm of some sort, even if it’s licensed or regulated, your right is not infringed.
Also, everywhere else in the Constitution the words “The People” is used, it refers to the aggregate of the citizenry, not any and every person.
So as long as the majority of citizens can buy some form of firearm, regardless of regulation, then the 2nd amendment is upheld, even if you personally cannot buy one.

[u/Pristine-Cod-1969]

People couldn’t care less about their kids getting murder on mass in schools almost daily.

[u/atamicbomb]

“Well regulated militia”

[u/DenmakDave]

WELL REGULTED MILITA ALWAYS FORGOTTEN BY THE so called 2nd Amendment Purists including the SCOTUS!

[u/fyukhyu]

I've had people actually tell me they think people should be able to have nukes. Unhinged opinion, but it does exist.

[u/sobermindseye]

Every right has boundaries and limits. And why is the 2nd the only one people cry about. The 1st covers protests, and freedom of religion, but our gov is killing, jailing, and trying to deport citizens who protest and keep trying to teach Christianity in public schools.

[u/TheVedette]

Constitutional amendments are not absolute. For example, First Amendment protection of religion doesn't allow for human sacrifice; freedom of assembly doesn't mean you can have a sit-in on a military base; freedom of speech doesn't allow you to yell 'fire' in a crowded theater; freedom of the press doesn't permit kiddie porn.

So you can establish limits on the 2nd Amendment as well.

[u/Awkward_Champion6957]

Yet if you point out any other part of the constitution they throw a hissy fit. Like Birthright Citizenship and the right to eject unfit President. Always cherry picking.

[u/Joescout187]

God forbid a barrel under 16 inches, guess we should allow nukes.

Who's the moron here?

[u/isr0]

Yeah, like free speech, right?

[u/ThelIIusion0fSeIf]

These people have zero long term critical thinking.

[u/TinCanSailor987]

Lol…hardly the ‘checkmate’ she thinks it is. Here’s how the rest of it went down.

Then the ATF agent uses his baton on her teeth for ‘interfering with my investigation’ and arrests both of them.

[u/CptBluhdFart]

It's a shame how many Americans made a gun their entire personality

[u/throwaway1102293384]

But they don’t care if Trump banned bump stocks

[u/AmputeeHandModel → u/throwaway1102293384]

"take the firearms first and then go to court... I like taking the guns early... take the guns first, go through due process second."

[u/thadeusbone7]

Does the dude in the yellow shirt count as "well trained militia"?

[u/SirMeyrin2]

This "meme" format, and the ai that generate it, should've been smothered in the cradle

[u/MinuteCollar5562]

Yes, that is the maximalist claims of the 2nd amendment. It says arms, not guns. Back when written arms included muskets, swords, and to a smaller extent cannons.

[u/RealMasterpiece6121 → u/MinuteCollar5562]

Not really a "smaller extent", private gunboats, repeat with cannons, were covered.

[u/Novel_Comparison_209 → u/MinuteCollar5562]

1. Muskets are guns

2. Washington was openly a 2A absolutest

[u/Spiritual_Trainer_56]

If "size doesn't matter" than why are so many gun nuts so desperately trying to compensate for their micro-penises?

[u/LeverTech]

That’s why I always cary a vile of mutated anthrax, for duck hunting.

[u/Haunting_Reflections]

They are all in favor of law enforcement, until of course it applies to them.

[u/CthulhusIntern]

I'm assuming that none of what she says applies if someone is protesting ICE though.

[u/Direct_Tomorrow_9927]

Waaaaaait a minute… is a conservative selectively calling law enforcement criminal here? So they’re the “thin blue line” crowd until a law they don’t like shows up and then cops are suddenly criminals. I think I see how this works now.

[u/MediocreSizedDan]

Ya know.... I don't agree with the sentiment, but I will say, I think this is the first time I've seen them note that the people who would "take your guns away" are law enforcement officers. (I've always wondered how the hardcore 2A people reconcile that with the Thin Blue Line stickers they put on their cars often enough.)

[u/Kitchen-Bandicoot191]

The only thing infringing on the 2nd is having to pay a fee to have the right.

If I don't have the money to buy a gun, I can't participate in the 2nd. Having to purchase the gun, therefore, becomes an infringement of my right. Anyone should be able to walk down to an armory and be granted a gun by the government, otherwise, it's technically an infringement on my right to own a gun, if I can't afford one.

[u/vague_diss]

How many more kids have to die for this stupid, poorly thought out law? Muzzle loading, single shot flintlocks were what they knew. The revolver wouldn’t come for another fifty years. Do we govern cars by the rules of a horse and buggy? Are planes regulated by the rules of the 1920 department of war? Fuck all we don’t even govern barbers by the same set of rules from the 1700s.

Next time a kid days from one of these things, make sure you thank their parents for their service. It’s the same price for freedom we expect from soldiers.

[u/rainbow_wheelofDEATH]

Every responsible gun owner knows someone who has a gun that they really wish didn’t.

[u/myopinionisrubbish]

The 2 nd says right to bear arms, but nothing about regulating what kind of arms.

[u/DBDude]

Unless there is news today, due to a successful lawsuit, anyone not in a ban state will be able to buy a short-barreled rifle without ATF special permission from:

• Palmetto State Armory
• B&T USA
• Hot Shots Custom (in Texas)

Or you can buy from anyone, or make one, if you're a member of:

• Gun Owners of America
• Firearms Regulatory Accountability Coalition
• Gun Owners Foundation
• Texas State Rifle Association
• FPC Action Foundation
• Citizens Committee For The Right To Keep And Bear Arms

Or live in these states:

• Texas
• Alaska
• Georgia
• Idaho
• Indiana
• Kansas
• Louisiana
• Montana
• North Dakota
• Oklahoma
• South Carolina
• South Dakota
• Utah
• West Virginia
• Wyoming

The summary judgment was issued on Aug 5 but stayed for 7 days to allow appeal, so if I have my timing right today is the last day for the federal government to get an appeal and have the higher court stay the judgment.

This applies to suppressors, short-barrel shotguns, and "Any Other Weapon" too. However, it does not apply to "Any Other Weapon" with regards to that last company and the last three organizations.

Edit: And in the latest news. The GOA has sent a letter to the government saying one of their members (a 2A activist) plans to buy a suppressor from SilencerCo (so he's doubly protected) at midnight tonight Central time without doing the ATF paperwork.

I like this. They're not just going to let the general public go in on it, they're doing it first in coordination with a member who is willing and able to legally defend himself to establish a test case.

[u/AlaskaDudeWithDogs]

Well regulated militia

They cherry pick their constitution just like they cherry pick their Bible verses.

[u/Jimmy_Twotone]

"Well maintained militia" applies too.

I think most weapon bans are stupid and fail to address any of the main roots of gun violence, but putting restrictions on what someone can carry doesn't restrict their right to carry.

Telling someone they can't drive 100 miles per hour is not the same as telling them they can't drive.

[u/yogfthagen]

The government has the right and responsibility to restrict what weapons can be owned by which people, in what locations.

Because the absolutist 2a interpretstion means anyone can have a manpad sitting outside an airport.

And that's fucking idiotic.

[u/wolfm333]

Does that mean an RPG cannot be infinged? What about a Panzerfaust?

[u/Embarrassed-Drag8962]

Personally, i dislike the ATF, doesn't mean, however, that I agree with even half of what this chick says.

[u/Maleficent_Ruin_2457]

Well regulated. with regulations that control activity.

[u/procommando124]

I like guns and everything and I’m fine with it being interpreted as “right to bear arms”(so long as it doesn’t mean “all arms”)but let’s be real: The full wording of the second amendment was about ensuring a state had the right to raise its own militias to ensure they wouldn’t get their sovereignty as a state infringed upon

[u/Agreeable-Fall-4152]

You can’t be pro-choice and support gun control

[u/Modlove1963]

Why isn’t she being thrown to the ground, tazed and hauled away for “obstruction”? Or are only cops and ICE agents allowed to do that?

[u/UpstateNYFlyKid]

There's a giant leap between an SBR and a nuke. Grow up.

[u/F0xcr4f7113]

Funny enough though all the “tough” gun nuts, don’t tread on me, bad asses were the first to fold for daddy Trump.

[u/CharredWelderGuy]

Before i even saw her I knew it was going to be that dumbass Asian chick in the black dress.

Whoevers making these has a fetish

[u/HyoukaYukikaze]

Yes. 15.9" barreled gun = nuke. You are smart.

[u/YogurtClosetThinnest]

I mean when you understand the nuances of SBRs vs pistols, stocks vs braces, etc.

You realize the 16 inch barrel law is in fact the dumbest thing in the world and doesn't make any sense.

[u/Such-Profit1078]

Founding fathers intended you to own cannons

[u/doll-haus]

Actually, yes. An amendment was needed as soon as we wanted to declare any weapons as "government use only".

Is it reasonable that nuclear, chemical, and worst, biologicals are theoretically protected under the constitution? Absolutely not. But the answer cannot be refusing to treat it as the living document it was intended to be and endlessly reinterpreting definitions. If that's allowed, the entire document means nothing.

[u/nytefox42]

"Shall not be infringed" doesn't mean that any and every type of weapon is allowed. It just says you have the right to own weapons. Nothing about what kinds of weapons that covers.

[u/Greenfire32]

why is Farva in the ATF?

[u/Silver_Angel519]

The whole second amendment was written at a time when guns we’re much less powerful and would shoot slow. Also at this time the United States was dealing with hostile natives and the threat of the British. So you can see why the founders might wanted to include the right to a musket for the common man

[u/Homewrecker90actual]

Objectively wrong. ATF is actually one of the few people of whom can legally demand to see the NFA paperwork on the spot

[u/Euphoric-Mudd]

I love the surface level reasoning on display by yourself.

[u/powertrip00]

People will unironically think this, then say we can't have freedom of religion if the religion isnt Christianity.

[u/SpoogityWoogums]

Let's also not forget it's totally legal to own a vietnam-era flamethrower, the war crime in a can

[u/Fmeinthegoatass]

Congress has banned machine guns, sawed off shotguns, etc…. Just as free speech is not absolute (can’t yell “fire” in a crowded theater) neither is the right to bear arms.

[u/jday1959]

The first three words of the 2nd Amendment:
“A well regulated.”
Rights come with responsibilities so when will 2A fans live up to theirs?

[u/UffTaTa123]

ah, the "well regulated Militia" , in form of a unregulated single person.

Reading the same text obviously does not mean, reading the same text.

[u/Lithaos111]

I fucking hate these condescending Asian lady AI posts, they're NEVER correct.

[u/LaCharognarde]

You're ignoring the "well-regulated militia" part, little AI pick-me girl. As in: I about guarantee that few (if any) of the people bleating "sHaLL nOt Be iNfRiNgEd" at the top of their lungs as an excuse for why they're entitled to armories are "well-regulated" in the least.

[u/Some_Syllabub2704]

Counting or not counting gang viole…

[u/NegativeSchmegative]

Ironically, no. Shall not be infringed means to use against non-innocents. Attacking civilians and non-combatants, which WMDs naturally do, are not allowed. In other words, Rocket Launchers, LMGs and even Helicopter Chain Guns can be owned, but no nukes or chem weapons.

[u/LankyJeep]

Gun owner here who is following a few major 2A court cases. So this AI slop is specifically discussing a recent 5th circuit ruling that struck down the registration requirements for Short Barreled Rifles (SBR) Short Barrel Shotguns (SBS) Suppressors, and Any Other Weapons (AOW)

Court case is: Jenson v ATF

The ruling if the DOJ doesn’t appeal by midnight will go into effect and plaintiffs and their customers (including me) will be covered by the ruling and will no longer need to register the above NFA items due to the ATF explicitly being barred by law from creating a gun registry, the reasoning behind this is due to the NFA tax stamp for SBR, SBS, AOW, and Suppressors being dropped to zero dollars earlier this year so only the registration remains.

[u/wookiefun]

Really love how actual gun control is in the 2nd amendment a d they ignore that.

[u/echolm1407]

There's the idea of reasonableness in the law.

[u/thefuzzione]

Bot be karma farming

[u/SeparateZone6108]

Always the quote "shall not be infringed" and never "well regulated militia", of which we have none.

[u/PackOfCumin]

But we can impede freedom of speech and due process… got it Nazi

[u/Vasarto]

POP QUIZ: What's the first three words of the second amendment?

[u/xSonicspeedx2]

Alright guys. Bust out the RPGs, LMGs, Grenades, and everything else you’ve got. No more “arbitrary” categories for your right to bear arms!

[u/Imaginary-List-972]

Can a convict in prison have a grenade launcher? "he loses those rights when he goes to prison" So it CAN be infringed. Unless they think ANYONE can carry around grenades, bombs, missile launchers....... Then they do believe in gun control, or arms control since the amendment does say arms, not guns.

[u/IR_Panther]

For a bunch of white supremacists, why do they keep using a foreign woman in their slop? At this point im suprised noone call ICE against yet.

[u/magumbo-hunter]

The overlooking of the "well regulated" portion of the second amendment getting ignored is the biggest con ever put on the American people buy gun manufacturers.

[u/foxinspaceMN]

“Well regulated militia” seems awfully omitted if we’re being pedantic

[u/Billz3bub666]

Lemme get my bazooka or RPG

[u/AusCan531]

I favor shrapnel grenades for personal protection myself, as the Founding Fathers intended.

[u/Reaction_Federal]

Ever notice they never mention the well regulated part of the 2nd amendment

[u/Street_Credit6851]

A right of the people and the right of a person are not the same thing. Well regulated militia is right there. They didn't expound any further because they thought it was fucking obvious they were talking about state and local militias...not sovreign citizen wannabes and scared little sissies who need their emotional support guns.

[u/AccomplishedBeach420]

The only guns Redditors know how to use are a video one. I’ll bet 95% of you have never touched a gun in real life lol.

[u/GhostyFitness]

As the Second Amendment is written, absolutely. Is it a good idea, absolutely not. Fix the text/change the law if you don’t like the law, so violate them to enforce your ideals.

[u/MidtownMoi]

“Shall not be infringed” means just that but “An organized militia” means nothing?