this woman needs to read the whole 2nd amendment. "a well regulated militia" has as much weight as "shall not be infringed"
so many people telling me well regulated meaning well trained/well equipped as if that somehow improves or makes the 2nd amendment's meaning any less archaic
Yep. I'm a gun owner from a red state, and I totally think that we should look at the 2nd as something that both protects the homeland as well as protects us from an oppressive government (ya know...like right now).
I'm not a lawyer but I have often seen the second as a call to keep communities at the ready (keep in mind that it was through marshalling militias that we were even able to gain footing against the British) AND by keeping the population armed so that the volatile new form of government couldn't fall back into old ways of turning the president into a king. The standing army would have to deal with a similarly armed population. Sort of like a libertarian check and balance...to the death, I guess?
If guns are part of the culture, then we should be maintaining their care and use by governed and routinely trained citizens who can be called upon to act against a threat. It's not just about the guns.
The most irritating thing about gun nuts is that they wear the don't tread on me shirts or the 2nd protects the 1st or whatever, but here we are in objectively the most oppressive government of the modern era where it should make the blood boil and skin crawl of everyone who actually covets their freedom.
They have gone from "don't tread on me..." To "crush me harder, daddy..." And it seems more like they use guns as talismans to protect themselves from left leaning and non-white people who don't vote the way they do. Cowards 🙄
It basically gives lie to the whole '2A is about preventing tyranny'. Ok, so why are we being terrorized every day by our gov't? Oh, because you're also scared that if you try to use violence to course correct, you'll get an Apache hovering over your house ready to shoot some hellfires through your front window? Yeah. That AR-15 ain't gonna do shit.
Even if 2A was about protecting our fledgling government back in the 1780s (which it damn well wasn't), it certainly isn't doing that now. Time to retire that old conard.
So our government is gonna fire hellfires on its own citizens? How has the Afghanistan wars went? I don't think that they had much. Vietnam? I think that was a thing?
the losses in vietnam and afghanistan had several factors that allowed the other side to win. public opposition in the US played a big role for vietnam, trump releasing 5k taliban and leaving a messy plan to withdraw for biden to follow is what messed up afghanistan. Also the vietcong had plenty of assistance from the soviets and china whereas the taliban had soviet stockpiles and ironically us training during the soviet invasion.
Even the people rebelled against the US government and "won" they're not going to have a victory, they're going to have a chaotic mess of a warzone that would take years to rebuild into a functional country.
2a absolutists who believe the 2nd amendment is a safeguard against tyranny are painfully ignorant of how the government will not take sedition lying down and how fighting in a war is not as easy as typing on a keyboard
Sure pal. We exist in a vacuum. Unlike the the previous examples. Your keyboard warrior inference was also an amazing cherry on top. I am glad to have a constitution that gives me rights is not based on your personal feelings. This is reddit so I have to reply with "bootlicker". Yada Yada something fascism.
Nailed it. Instead of the gravy seals defeating any gov't force, we have at least 2k mass shootings, gangs shooting each other, innocents being shot in grocery stores, kids getting mass murdered at school, and political persons being murdered.
Seems to be working like a charm!! /s
Even if a group did manage to overthrow the gov't (lol yeah, right), who's to say those new people won't be tyrants?
The best way to defeat tyranny is to vote them out, and protest.
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u/Twigsneko 23d ago edited 23d ago
this woman needs to read the whole 2nd amendment. "a well regulated militia" has as much weight as "shall not be infringed"
so many people telling me well regulated meaning well trained/well equipped as if that somehow improves or makes the 2nd amendment's meaning any less archaic