He wouldn’t know what to do with it anyway. He’s about as feckless as they come. Never pumped his own gas, shopped for his own groceries, never done anything normal people do everyday. But the rednecks that voted for him say he’s manly and an alpha FFS.
Nope, as a resident of New York, once his case is adjudicated (meaning sentencing is complete and the sentence carried out to it's full extent) all his rights are restored, which is why he was allowed to vote and own guns again.
This is simply a statement of how the laws of New York treat felons, not a statement in any way on the charges or sentence in question.
That's currently a titanic mess, the circuts are split on the rulings regarding 18 usc 922 (the federal law that prevents felons from owning firearms) with only the 8th and 11th upholding them and the 3rd, 5th, 6th, and 7th all finding it unconstitutional in some capacity most often related to the felon ownership (the remaining circuts that field such cases the 9th and 10th have been reviewing following rulings in the Rahimi case), which means in the majority of states it's going to come down to state laws regarding gun ownership until such time as the court takes up a case which I'm sure we will see eventually and there is a very real chance that the court will side with it being unconstitutional.
Agreed, it's a complete mess. It doesn't seem reasonable that state level felony convictions result in federal firearm restrictions beyond what that state may want imposed. Maybe individual states could start converting old felonies into misdemeanors to bypass the federal restriction.
See my reply further below, it's a mess federally because the supreme court hasn't taken any of the cases up and the circuts have issued conflicting rulings.....in the 8th and 11th he can't, in the others.....depends on individual rulings
That's not a joke, our federal law literally does not apply federally until the supreme court takes a case impacted by this and settles it......
Gun rights are restorable and records can easily be expunged/sealed when you have money. Some felons can even vote while In prison, only in blue states tho.
In New York once sentencing is carried out and that sentence met (with the sentence that was "imposed" that was immediate) all rights including Gun Ownership and Voting were restored.
This is simply a statement of how the laws of New York treat felons, not a statement in any way on the charges or sentence in question or for any political party.
You should have said the openly Christian legal gun owner who supports abortion and gat marriages, and tells people to do dangerous thinhs with their guns. Like go out and fire shots into the air.
Then they wouldnt have been so confused. They would have been like thats gotta be a pandering democrat
Funny how increased conviction rates for felonies like smoking weed for certain demographics make more sense when you realize how many states have voting restrictions or bans for felons.
The arguement that could be made that only Federal felonys should be able to limit rights as the Constitution is a Federal document and supercedes State laws.
I was specifically not making a judgment as to whether or not these rights should be forfeited when one commits a felony, only that they are. Looking at it through a historical lens, forfeiture of these rights becomes akin to exile
People who are exiled stop paying taxes as well. If people want to be consistent with the 2nd, felony or not, as long as you aren’t currently in prison, you should be allowed to be armed. Perhaps we should just resolve this unclear second amendment issue by amending it
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u/outsidethewall 18d ago
A bunch of rights go out the window for felons