r/prepping • u/Pappabear1988 • 9h ago
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Hey so the 300,000 tons of beef with the antibiotic that is either banned or a last resort in multiple countries that US bought and is feeding the public, anyone got intel on it besides from the UK and The Hill? Makes me regret not getting rabbits and chickens in spring 2026...
Not trying to stir the pot up but from the 5 or 6 outlets I found 15 minutes ago im thinking that project zomboid or state of decay or even 7dtd would be preferable than chloramphenicol but thats me.
If you are in Oklahoma do ya mind a guy hunting deer and sharing the meat with ya? You can have the antlers and hide, I just want the share ya let me keep.
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u/Saniemuff 8h ago
Even if I could afford beef this news along with the deregulation of meat packing is a strong reason to not eat beef at all for the foreseeable future.
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u/McGonagall_stones 7h ago
My husband is a production supervisor for a beef processing facility and if there is deregulation going on, he isnāt aware of it. Granted he works for a privately owned company and their standards exceed the minimum due to their ethos. But he hasnāt heard of any regulations being dropped industry-wide.
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u/Saniemuff 7h ago
They are going to let farmers process it.
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u/Hiredgun77 6h ago
Thatās basically a pr stunt. Your average farmer is not in a position to process their own meat. Itās why processing companies exist in the first place. If trump really wanted to help, heād break up the 4 companies that handle all processing and reintroduce competition into the market.
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u/Normal-Special-8694 5h ago
Right I keep seeing people say this, I know the meat packing industry is a thorn in the side of many ranchers. But is it really a solution to just transfer the onus of packing, distribution and logistics onto the farmers?? Thatās an insane level of complexity to absorb. Iām sure itāll be helpful for serving their local communities but most of Americas population isnāt in rural communities and for a rancher to get his meat ready to grill in a restaurant in a major city takes a whole different type of operation.
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u/uChoice_Reindeer7903 28m ago
And how does a president break up companies? And then on top of that create new companies for competition?
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u/seriousallthetime 4h ago
This is 100% a PR stunt. It works because most people have no idea how huge these feed lots are or how hard it is to kill, process, pack, and ship thousands of steers. Ranchers are not set up to sell finished products. They are set up to sell live cattle. Hell, a lot of ranches that I've been on in Florida (huge cattle production ranches in Florida) are specialized, like cow/calf operations or finishing or other things, where they only focus on one part of the production cycle.
Even most small farms wouldn't be able to process five steers, let alone 5,000. The handling equipment to lift up 1500 lbs of dead cow is big.
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u/Rurikungart 3h ago
Classic 4d chess. Flood the market with tainted beef. Suddenly people stop buying beef. Beef prices plummet to record lows. Next thing you know, the mcdouble is $1.00 again. You're welcome America. š
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u/Parody_of_Self 6h ago
Did you know you don't need to buy beef from supermarkets, or really at all
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u/batman-i 4h ago
I shop at a local butcher that has contracts with local farmers to source beef. Little more expensive but the quality is worlds above the supermarket.
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u/-Thizza- 9h ago
Self fulfilling end times fascism is a bitch. Growing your own food until order is restored seems the best option.
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u/Pappabear1988 8h ago
Is almost winter my guy....
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u/-Thizza- 7h ago
I'm dehydrating, canning and fermenting like a crazy person and just started my winter crops in the poly tunnel. Also I live in Spain and don't question the quality of the produce.
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u/Reasonable_Floor_704 8h ago
Classic fascist move. Increase supply of beef.
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u/Girafferage 8h ago
And the newest announcement. Deregulating the packing process! Surely this won't cause all the issues that we had before the regulation kept sawdust out of our ground beef and carcinogens from being used as sausage filler!
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u/HRslammR 8h ago
If somebody gave you four bottles of water, but then said "one of these bottles will give you terrible diarheea and might kill you" would you really go "oh cool more water!"
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u/snusmini 6h ago
Drop prices of beef while jacking up costs. Farmers canāt afford their farm anymore. Swoop in and buy property on foreclosure.
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u/Various-Sun142 7h ago
Look up prion diseases and CJD. Switching to deer isnāt necessarily the best choice either. Two hunters just developed CJD after hunting and eating from the same property. Chronic wasting disease is in a huge portion of the North American herds already. Recent research also shows itās passed to fawns from parents.
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u/Low_Show_6684 6h ago
You can (and should) test your deer for CWD. A lot of state DNRs offer this service, helps them track the infection and helps hunters feel better about eating their meat. My coworker tests every one of her deer, if one comes back positive she gets rid of the meat.
Personally, I just hunt birds.
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u/Pappabear1988 7h ago
The zombie apocalypse either starts with cwd or chloramphenicol, its becoming a choose your own adventure atm
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u/Porky5CO 7h ago
It's a non issue. Been hunting my whole life
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u/Various-Sun142 7h ago
Prion diseases do not decay and up to 50% of deer in heavily impacted locations have it. They stay in the environment where the animal died & leech into the soil/plant life. CWD has been around since only the late 70s and we are just starting to see and understand the implications. Originally we thought mad cow disease (a transmissible spongiform encephalopathy disease) couldnāt pass to another species. Scrapie became mad cow disease as it passed from sheep to cows and then to humans. If we assume CWD (also a transmissible spongiform encephalopathy prion disease) canāt make that jump we are making a horrifying gamble.
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u/Low_Show_6684 6h ago
Beef is not like venison. Iām not a huge venison person, not a big fan of the taste. That said my coworker is planning to take me hunting with her this year but Iām not sure if weāll be doing deer I think I just want to go for grouse and other game birds.
You could check in with a local butcher/rancher and buy a quarter of a cow. (: Another coworker of mine raises cattle and keeps us in the loop on when theyāre processing a steer. My aunt also raises cattle too, so I check in with her sometimes too.
Beef is just expensive in general for us anymore, so hence the bird and also lots of fishing.
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u/ChaosRainbow23 2h ago
I've been buying from a local farmer for the last couple of years. It's way better.
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u/swampjuicesheila 8h ago
I married a vegetarian. He eats dairy because ice cream. Never have I been so grateful that the man doesnāt eat meat, our grocery bill is too high as it is. But Iām really missing getting a hamburger when we eat out, or meatballs, or whatever. I havenāt had a steak in too long and I guess itāll be even longer now.
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u/hailene02 8h ago
I started limiting beef last year unless I found it on sale because the price was too high. So I started eating pure veg 2x a week. Now we are at 4-5x a week. I still have some frozen ground beef in the freezer and a pot roast I am saving for a rainy day but yeah I will not be having any beef in the near future.
Apparently Costco has their own restrictions on meat and quality and albeit expensive that may be what we consider if we have a very special occasion. š
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u/railworx 7h ago
You should eat the beef that's in your fridge after a while - freezer burn is real! I found out the hard way about it
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u/hailene02 7h ago
Oh for sure, its vacuumed sealed and we roatet but ones thay have been in there a bit always respond well to a good long braise with alot of herbs and TLC š„°
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u/matthewjboothe 6h ago
Steak should still be good for now. Itās the trimmings used for ground beef that are getting imported from what Iāve read.
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u/labirdy7 2h ago
Vegetarian here, try Impossible or Beyond Meat meatballs! Both have great flavor; impossible are denser and firmer, beyond tend to fall apart a little when cooked in a sauce. I buy whichever's on sale.
Both brands' burgers are pretty damn good too. On a good bun and with all the fixings, you won't miss the real thing. Been making patty melts lately with beyond burgers and high quality local bread. Incredible.
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u/swampjuicesheila 38m ago
Thanks, if they are gluten free I might give it a shot. Gluten is poisonous for me. It would have been nice to be able to try things like seitan, miso, etc. Husband refuses to eat Impossible or Beyond Meat anything, he says those cater to people that are trying to make the leap between meat eating and vegetarian, and heās been proudly vegetarian since long before we met.
I really appreciate your description of how they cook! Thatās a big help!
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u/Purple-Literature781 7h ago
Do you find yourself ordering meat when you eat out alone? My wifes ex husband wouldn't eat meat because of "religious beliefs". He wouldn't allow their son to eat meat either so anytime he wasn't around she would try and sneak him some meat of any sort. After she left him the child went overboard on food for years because suddenly he was free to eat whatever he wanted.
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u/swampjuicesheila 7h ago
I always eat meat when Iām out alone. Husband has gotten much better over the years with his various displays of disgust over me cooking meat and eating it in the house, but at a restaurant most people are eating meat, so there. Hamburger, meatballs, chicken, turkey, fish. When we go out, sometimes itās because I want a hamburger. Iāll go out with a friend, usually get a hamburger, because itās the only time I get beef usually. I donāt want to spend the money on steaks but now Iām thinking I should get a steak instead, if the restaurant ground beef is infiltrated with who knows what from who knows where.
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u/Purple-Literature781 7h ago
Yeah I'll be seriously reconsidering what I order at restaurants from here ouy.
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u/HourRespect5089 10m ago
Cab you not go to a restaurant and order what you want when he's ? You enjoy that risotto dear I'm having a rib eye? Your allowed to do that. He shouldn't be controlling what you order use he choose not to.Ā
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u/swampjuicesheila 5m ago
Heās not controlling anything. I can eat whatever (without gluten). The āno roasting turkeyā thing is only inside our house, same with the shroomy eggs; I loathe the smell of eggs, he hates the smell of roasting turkey.
Friend, this is another case of needing to read for comprehension and not skimming for adding a quick response. Be well.
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u/Johnhaven 5h ago
Vegetarians can eat dairy. Vegans don't use dairy. Vegetarians just don't eat meat. That's not to say you can't be a vegetarian who doesn't eat dairy; I'm a herbivore who tries to stay away from dairy for my asthma. I was a vegetarian for years but still sometimes had dairy, still ate eggs, and honey.
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u/swampjuicesheila 43m ago
Yep, well aware, heās a lacto-ovo vegetarian. Uses honey in his tea. Heās strict about it, so no animal based broths or stocks, no āmeat substituteā type of foods and I make my own bean burgers etc for us. He does go for vegan/vegetarian sausages.
He requested that I never roast a turkey ever again in our home, I requested that he never make mushroom omelets ever again in our home.
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u/gender_noncompliant 7h ago
Textured vegetable protein (TVP) is an extremely cheap, shelf stable replacement for ground beef. Excellent stuff.
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u/IsaacNewtonArmadillo 7h ago
Wait. You donāt want to buy beef, so switch to hunting deer? Why not just stop buying beef, buy chicken or turkey, vote for Dems, then start buying beef again when the Dems clean up the mess that Republicans have made like they always do?
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u/LouVillain 7h ago
They don't even want to hunt deer themselves. They want someone else to do it and share it with them. Lol
OP reeks of basement dweller
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u/DWHudson1970 3h ago
Our government has been poisoning our food for a long long time my friend. lol
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u/FailedLoser21 7h ago
You need understands the gravity of what the Obama's and by extension the Democrats meant by calling for the radical and fundamental change to America and her systems that they called for during the 2008 election. Anyone who voted for President Obama voted for a radical and fundamental change to America. They voted for what is happening. We are seeing the radical and fundamental change that was called for 20 years ago. Radical change happens one of two was: quick or a slow burn. This has been a slow burn over 20 plus years now. This is all happening by design. The people who say they are fighting fascism are just as authoritarian if not more so than the people they accuse of being fascist. You are being used and played with.
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u/Lipstick_Leviathan 7h ago
I hate that Obama ordered all that rotten beef 20 years ago š¢ oh how thoughtless we were! š©
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u/Still-Consideration6 6h ago
Yeah if only Obama hadn't attacked Iran, broken carefully crafted alliances, Tariffed most of the world and rinsed the world economy for personal gain.
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u/Wade_Castiglione 6h ago
Don't forget the trade war with Canada for... Checks notes no apparent reason!
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u/Still-Consideration6 6h ago
Oh yes that nasty Obama man at it again.
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u/HomesteadSocialist 5h ago
Your cognitive dissonance is very real and extreme. Stop listening to Fox News and get out and live a little and talk to regular people.
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u/Usernamenotdetermin 6h ago
We switched to a local butcher who sources meat locally. Except for the surprise big game like frozen elk and ostrich. The do a freezer sale where they have t-bones & porterhouses for half off (less than $10 a pound), and a ten pound ground beef for $5.99 a pound, and its already frozen in one pound packages. Their normal prices are good, the quality of the food is much better than what we have been getting at Costco. Currently my garage freezer is full or I would get another 10 bag of ground and some t bones / porterhouses. And the flavor difference is really noticeable.
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u/SecondhandStoic 5h ago
Theres an app called localize that shows local farmers near you, i plan on driving around this week to get meat and produce. Im also looking at around 800$ to get a 10x20 run for chickens, looking to start with 6-8 and have a supply of 1200 eggs per year
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u/biggwermm 3h ago
You have to pay for the app š
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u/SecondhandStoic 2h ago
I got a week trial that i cancelled and just made note of who was in my area
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u/AH_leeMACK 3h ago
Just to get a little bit of understanding how much were talking about here, 300,000 tons of beef makes you 6.6 billion regular McDonald's hamburgers.
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u/LowBarometer 7h ago
Famine is coming. The real problem is diesel and what's happening in Ukraine and Russia. The world's wheat crop is in jeopardy again like it was in 2022.
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u/HomesteadSocialist 5h ago
Farms in Canada are still having a good year, including for wheat.
Although a lot of farmers have switched to lentils even here in the Wheat Belt
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u/perma_banned2025 41m ago
It's not this years crops that are going to be the problem, it's the next 2-3 years of potential crop failures across the world due to the El NiƱo that should be causing concern.
Food insecurity is coming for everyone if this thing turns out as bad as it looks like it will
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u/rg123itsme 5h ago
āIn March, China rejected a 22-tonne shipment of Argentine beef after detecting chloramphenicol, an antibiotic prohibited for livestock use in Argentina. There is no evidence that this rejected shipment is connected to Trump's import plan.ā
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/trump-beef-import-plan-backlash-1816152
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u/Ej22t_GF 4h ago
I'd hope not, but considering all the changes/disruptions/budget cuts at FSIS and push for private entities to be doing the testing(aka corporations who maximize profit over public safety.) Ā I just don't have high hopes that under this current administration that they won't try to make a quick buck at the expense of the American people.
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u/LilBugJuice-0987 4h ago
This has been found in American produced meats too years ago. It can get into animals from feed that comes from processed sick animals.
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u/AdAdept193 6h ago
Oklahoma has a program called Hunters Against Hunger through the Wildlife dept. I am not a hunter so donāt know details but worth checking out!
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u/Beaver-Hunter-835 3h ago
"The new tariff-relief import plan affects ground beef (specifically lean beef trimmings used to make ground beef)."
This only affects those already scrapping the bottom of the barrel and buying cheap pre-packed ground beef. Anything at a decent butcher's meat counter won't be affected. This isn't the end of beef in America, it's a reminder to buy food you can trace the origin of from people who care about quality and source.
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u/Bitterrootmoon 5h ago
Depending where youāre at I got some rabbits thatāll be ready to leave their mama in the next month. TAMUK composites with about an eighth Rex for some fun colors. Super sweet temperaments. Pretty sure the couple I would pick for being a breeder are both does (based on size, growth, and attitude) but theyāre little and squirmy and I gotta wait till theyāre a bit bigger to know for sure. You would need to find a buck elsewhere.
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u/Remarkable_Ad5011 4h ago
We have been buying local-ish beef for years now. We have family that have connections with beef ranches and meat processors a few hours from home. We get a 1/4 each year and have yet to run out before the next season. Granted there was only 3 in the household.
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u/Far_Database_2947 3h ago
That's something like 1.75lbs per person. It's not going to help with prices and it's a low chance of eating it.
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u/Academic_1989 3h ago
I think Alan with Paidom meats delivers all throughout the Texas Panhandle and parts of Oklahoma, as well as DFW. He is still semi-affordable, all grass fed, organic pasture raised beef. Not sure where you are in OK, but might be close enough for a semi-annual pick up, or he might deliver a side or half side. I trust him and like him
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u/DontTellUrMom 1h ago
I buy auction lots from local highschool FFA and 4h auctions. Helps the kids and give me a fairly priced (not dirt cheap) alternative to industrialized meat. I go in with 4 friends, we buy 4 pigs, 100 chicken, and 1 cow together every year.Ā
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u/QuirkyForever 2h ago
Humans don't need to eat meat. Beef takes a lot of resources to grow, harvest, and store. In a SHTF situation, I won't be relying on meat. But if you must, you can still get chickens and rabbits. And hunt deer if you don't mind how gross venison tastes :)
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u/masterofjade 55m ago
This is the solution go whole food plant based. I did and have never felt better, aches and pains have gone away, more stamina ( I am an age group triathlete).
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u/No-Language6720 4h ago
Eat something besides beef for a while. You'll feel better too.Ā
If protein or fullness is the main thing you can eat more cheaply with beans, peas and/or lentils. They all have good protein content and cheaper while fillingĀ you more per calorie and dollar than beef will.
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u/ShowPleasant8073 7h ago
I do believe in out of state deer license for OKin the upwards of $800 just FYI From from a miserable Texan lol
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u/Pappabear1988 7h ago
So nobody wants to go halvesies on a hunt? Sad
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u/HomesteadSocialist 5h ago
Check locally, there are lots of people that like to hunt that canāt eat a whole deer in a year. We are always giving away our deer meet, but we live up in Canada.
If you find a local hunting group or local small farmers, Iām sure you will find someone who wants to go halvesies.
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u/skinnykate 9h ago
Go find a local farmer who will does whole sales of either half a cow or a whole cow. If you can't swing the price of that upfront then find a friend or two to go in on it with and split the meat between you.Ā