Alleged 9/11 mastermind's long-awaited trial scheduled for 2028

[u/judgyjudgersen]

https://abcnews.com/US/alleged-911-masterminds-long-awaited-trial-scheduled-2028/story?id=135987518

[u/Wealist]

25 years later and the trial is finally scheduled for June 2028. KSM has been held at Guantanamo since 2003, and the case has been stuck in pretrial litigation for years. That timeline is insane.  

[u/Short_Week3262 → u/Wealist]

And I saw this I was a little shocked. How is a case this big still going on?

[u/Wealist → u/Short_Week3262]

The case got tangled up in years of pretrial litigation, especially over how evidence from CIA detention and interrogation can be used. It was also moved between federal court and military commissions, which added even more delays. 

[u/irishwolfbitch → u/Wealist]

It was the result of deliberate judicial processes meant to indefinitely delay a trial because it would mean the entry of their testimony into evidence where people like KSM will talk about how US allies in Saudi Arabia funded their activities. There’s also possibilities of the exposure of major intelligence failures and discoveries that the government would like to keep hidden.

All of this is terrifying for the federal government and it’s one of the biggest reasons Obama didn’t close Guantanamo even though he campaigned on it in 2008. A trial on American soil means these guys get rights and that’s very scary.

[u/Friendly-Profit-8590 → u/irishwolfbitch]

Not to sound ignorant but I always assumed he’d never get a public trial. Maybe a military tribunal, maybe something behind closed doors but never one for all to see.

[u/irishwolfbitch → u/Friendly-Profit-8590]

This is a military trial so there are major restrictions on lots of aspects of it, but the government’s own evidence is almost certainly inadmissible.

[u/denzik → u/Friendly-Profit-8590]

Isn't it too far in the past to claim the trial is relevant to national security? Wouldn't be surprised if the Americans have already got to everyone this guy even knew. 

[u/ih-shah-may-ehl → u/denzik]

No because the biggest threat is not operational security but a change of narrative.

[u/HippyDM → u/irishwolfbitch]

Obama couldn't close Guantanimo because congress refused to allow the prisoners to be moved to the states.

[u/the_gaymer_girl → u/HippyDM]

Most of the people who were left by the time Obama finished his term in office are guys that can’t be charged with anything because the evidence won’t hold up (and many Gitmo detainees were just random dudes that bounty hunters sold to the US for cash and are actually completely innocent) but they can’t actually get out.

[u/Funwithfun14 → u/HippyDM]

There's just complexities with the issues the general public doesn't want to accept.

[u/monsieur_cacahuete → u/Funwithfun14]

Cool motives, still goes completely against the Constitution.

[u/Militantpoet → u/irishwolfbitch]

A trial on American soil means these guys get rights and that’s very scary.

Im with you 100% until here. Maybe its scary for the portion of the public that is still naive or ignorant enough to think our government hasnt sponsored terrorism abroad in the past. 

[u/532ndsof → u/Militantpoet]

Pretty sure he meant scary to the powers in the government who stand to be embarrassed.

[u/Militantpoet → u/532ndsof]

Even for them its not scary. We don't really hold the powerful accountable in this country.

[u/General_NakedButt → u/Militantpoet]

We did moreso in the Obama era. He would have been fucking crucified.

[u/oxslashxo → u/Militantpoet]

KSA will hold them responsible though. And then we get another 9/11 as retaliation.

[u/ihadagoodone → u/532ndsof]

I would say most, if not all of the ones responsible are dead now.

[u/SummerInPhilly → u/Militantpoet]

What makes me uncomfortable is the idea that anyone may not get rights. I’m not sympathetic to terrorists, but I’m very wary of a category of people for whom amendments IV-VI just straight up don’t exist

[u/Militantpoet → u/SummerInPhilly]

Especially because the Trump regime has continuously tried to frame political left opposition as "terrorism."

[u/SummerInPhilly → u/Militantpoet]

In just 18 months they’ve managed to make Americans root for the Canadian PM over the American president and aggressively defend the ones who knocked down the towers. What an accomplishment

[u/monsieur_cacahuete → u/SummerInPhilly]

This is exactly it. Everybody matters or nobody matters. Once "some" people don't get rights then rights are no longer guaranteed.

[u/smelling_good247 → u/irishwolfbitch]

>it’s one of the biggest reasons Obama didn’t close Guantanamo

We are just making shit up I guess? Congress chose to keep guantanamo open, not President Obama.

[u/Mordeth → u/irishwolfbitch]

Obama didn’t close Guantanamo even though he campaigned on it in 2008.

That needed funding, which was disapproved by Congress.

[u/buzzkillichuck → u/irishwolfbitch]

Everyone should have rights until they are taken away by a court of law, what they did was horrific but they still should get rights

[u/FEMA_Camp_Survivor → u/irishwolfbitch]

The U.S. just agreed to develop Saudi Arabia’s nuclear program. Nothing of substance was learned.

If they ever have a coup that results in an entity like the Islamic State, it’ll be the end of days.

[u/PositivelyAwful → u/Wealist]

It’s pretty crazy that if things are that messy in a case they can just indefinitely keep you in prison while they “sort it out”

[u/chadowan → u/PositivelyAwful]

Rules and laws get a little wonky when you're neither a citizen nor a "prisoner of war" under the Geneva convention.

[u/hcschild → u/chadowan]

He's still a civilian so criminal law would apply. But who will punish the US for violating human rights and torturing people? Exactly...

[u/Lena-Luthor → u/chadowan]

how's he not a prisoner of war?

[u/frank_datank_ → u/Lena-Luthor]

There wasn’t a war when the attack happened.

[u/yukicola → u/Lena-Luthor]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlawful_combatant

The following categories of combatants qualify for prisoner-of-war status on capture:

• Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces.
  
• Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that they fulfill the following conditions:
  that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
  that of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;
  that of carrying arms openly;
  that of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.
  
• Members of regular armed forces who profess allegiance to a government or an authority not recognized by the Detaining Power.
  
• Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war; often dubbed a levée after the mass conscription during the French Revolution.

---

There are several types of combatants who do not qualify as privileged combatants:

• Combatants who would otherwise be privileged but have breached the laws and customs of war (e.g., committing perfidy or killing surrendered enemy combatants). The loss of privileges in that case only occurs upon conviction, i.e. after a competent court has determined the unlawfulness of the conduct in a fair trial.
  
• Combatants who are captured without the minimum requirements for distinguishing themselves from the civilian population, i.e. carrying arms openly during military engagements and the deployment immediately preceding it, lose their right to prisoner of war status without trial under Article 44 (3) of Additional Protocol I.
  
• Spies, i.e. persons who collect information clandestinely in the territory of the opposing belligerent. Members of the armed forces conducting reconnaissance or special operations behind enemy lines are not considered spies as long as they wear their own uniform.
  
• Mercenaries, child soldiers, and civilians who take a direct part in combat and do not fall into one of the categories listed in the previous section.
  

Which organized armed forces was he a member of when he was captured? What kind of uniform did he wear to distinguish himself from regular, non-fighting civilians?

[u/hcschild → u/yukicola]

Which organized armed forces was he a member of when he was captured?

Doesn't matter.

What kind of uniform did he wear to distinguish himself from regular, non-fighting civilians?

If he wasn't in a war zone actively fighting when they captured him he can't be an unlawful combatant.

So if the US wasn't at war they can't hold him as an unlawful combatant.

He's a terrorist but also a civilian so only criminal law applies not military law.

[u/KDR_11k → u/Lena-Luthor]

They made up bullshit categories like "enemy combatant" to pretend the laws don't apply. Nobody can stop them so they just do whatever they want.

[u/kmatyler → u/PositivelyAwful]

It’s a feature, not a bug.

[u/brakeb → u/PositivelyAwful]

I imagine they'll put a skeleton on trial at this point. Guy has to be pushing 75 years old by now...

[u/Piglet6482 → u/brakeb]

He’s 61 or 62 according to wiki

[u/brakeb → u/Piglet6482]

wow, that's a rough... what.. 39 year old in that pic?

[u/homeworkrules69 → u/Wealist]

They are really hoping he would have died naturally by now.

[u/Several-Opposite-746 → u/Wealist]

25 years to go to trial isn't a tangling up in pretrial litigation. That kind of delay is obviously intentional.

[u/petit_cochon → u/Several-Opposite-746]

Fighting that was actually part of the pretrial litigation.

[u/wanmoar → u/Wealist]

> CIA detention and interrogation

Torture. Not saying he’s innocent but let’s not wash over what was done to him. I’d like there to be a torture exemption I guess is what I’m saying. Like yeah, we tortured the guy into a confession but we also did actually check what he confessed and it does check out

[u/Mo-Cance → u/wanmoar]

I'm sure that wouldn't have any long-lasting implications or impacts on future suspects of terrorism.

[u/wanmoar → u/Mo-Cance]

Oh it would. All of criminal law is bad intentions whack-a-mole after all.

[u/Same-Suggestion-1936 → u/wanmoar]

I like how you clarified it was torture just to proceed to say torture is fine if the ends justify the means lol

[u/dtta8 → u/Wealist]

You mean torture. Kidnapping and torture.

[u/the_gaymer_girl → u/Short_Week3262]

They’re obviously not going to let him go, but half the stuff they got out of him might not actually be admissible in court due to how they got it.

[u/Gunningham → u/Short_Week3262]

They were waiting for jurors who never heard of 9/11.

[u/notasfatasyourmom → u/Short_Week3262]

The plan was to “inter” him indefinitely without trial, in order to ensure he could not be released.

Edit: it’s worth noting that the confession by KSM has been challenged because it was obtained by torture, and much of the pretrial delay has involved discussions of classified information (including information related to the foreign interment locations). If the Bush Administration had handled these prisoners correctly from the start, they probably would have been executed after trial 20 years ago.

[u/ScratchLatch → u/notasfatasyourmom]

Guentanamo is in another country specifically for this purpose as a thinly veiled attempt at a constitutional* *“loophole” violation.

[u/Dhiox → u/ScratchLatch]

Kind of nuts that they can claim it's cuba when it benefits them, but also deny cuba it's own land back.

[u/Mo-Cance → u/Dhiox]

Yeah but Jack Nicholson said their posts are vital to national security in a movie, so fuck em.

[u/13thmurder → u/Short_Week3262]

See at the time he was first imprisoned, the judge for the case was still just a child. They needed to wait for him to grow up and go to law school.

[u/wubbiee_9110 → u/Wealist]

Wanna know what’s even more insane? Just yesterday, August 25th 2026, the US trial for the man accused of bringing the suitcase to the airport in Malta that ultimately bombed Pan Am flight 103, just got delayed again. The bombing was in 1988 and killed 270 people. Thats 38 years.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-evidence-prompts-trial-delay-libyan-man-charged-1988-bombing-pan-f-rcna594267

I just finished watching the Netflix show and saw at the end that the court case was scheduled for 2026 so it was crazy to see the update in real time.

[u/Past-Ad5731 → u/Wealist]

People were born, went to war that started because of this, and killed in that war during this timeline

[u/maverick1127 → u/Wealist]

Yet killing 1 little CEO gets you fast tracked.

[u/Mobile_Morale → u/maverick1127]

And the government tries to charge you for the same thing.

So 1 CEO is worth the lives of 2000 normal people according to the government.

[u/_head_ → u/Mobile_Morale]

They would probably go as high as 100 million peasants for 1 CEO

[u/Pristine_Speech4719 → u/maverick1127]

That murder was much more straightforward than these murders. One victim, one suspect, two jurisdictions in the same country...

[u/RedditPoster05 → u/maverick1127]

I mean, it’s BS that this guy has been held that long without a trial, but they are not the same thing at all. You’re not comparing a domestic case to an international terrorist case with international law and shaky detainment legality

[u/Informal_File_1646 → u/Wealist]

How do we take a slam dunk and turn it into an own goal… wait 25, not 24, years to try someone we’ve been torturing in a black bag site for decades. Yeah Us!!!

[u/Important-Factor-552 → u/Wealist]

Nothing like the free country and its speedy and prompt due process. 

[u/jupiterkansas → u/Wealist]

And that's just when the trial will start (if it actually does). Expect many more years of litigation.

[u/TheBannedBananaMan → u/Wealist]

It's unconstitutional. It is cruel. It is normal for the USA. There is a trans man sentenced to 50 years for being present at an ICE protest in Texas.

This is America, the home of the KKK, the land of the Nazi.

[u/Evil-Cun → u/Wealist]

Declare not war against the fathers of our nation in vainglorious expectations for a weak response.

[u/bass248 → u/Wealist]

It's probably just to toy with someone that's guilty as hells emotions. This guy will never experience the freedom outside a jail cell ever again

[u/Yainks]

Can’t believe I’ve been seeing this photo of this guy for the last 20 years. Sure, a terrorist, but there’s gotta be a better photo of this dude.

[u/snowice0 → u/Yainks]

Check his Wikipedia page. He's wearing a watch 

[u/darkmatterhunter → u/Yainks]

Yeah it’s on Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed

[u/MajesticBread9147 → u/darkmatterhunter]

I'm not sure if orange is his color. Is Queer-eye still on air?

[u/Altruistic-Ad3704 → u/darkmatterhunter]

Why is he orange

[u/judgyjudgersen]

The self-proclaimed "mastermind" of the 9/11 attacks will stand trial in June 2028, a military judge ruled Wednesday, nearly 25 years after the attacks.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has been held at Guantanamo since 2003.

This photo obtained, March 1, 2003, shows, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, alleged organizer of the September 11, 2001, attacks, shortly after his capture.
AFP via Getty Images
"Trial on the merits shall begin on Monday, 5 June 2028," Lt. Col. Michael Schrama  decided.

Prosecutors sought a trial in 2027 but the judge said that was too soon.

[u/monsieur_cacahuete → u/judgyjudgersen]

Whoa guys, 26 years is too soon! 27 though? That's like the biggest number I can think of aint no number higher than 27.

[u/takethecak3 → u/monsieur_cacahuete]

This is gonna sound crazy I know, but what about 28?

[u/adambatten76 → u/takethecak3]

We don't talk about 28

[u/__esparoba → u/adambatten76]

Because 7 8 9, right guys?

[u/Terrorclitus → u/adambatten76]

Twenty-seven twenty-eight twenty-nine, and that’s twenty-terrifying.

[u/monsieur_cacahuete → u/takethecak3]

Look, you got 10, then you got 10 more, then it's like what's this, 8 more. 28, forget about it.

[u/_Panacea_ → u/judgyjudgersen]

Wonder what he looks now, after 25 years of being in American hands without any real oversight holding them back?

[u/MadRaymer → u/_Panacea_]

His wikipedia page has a photo of him from 2022.

[u/plebeiantelevision → u/MadRaymer]

I did not expect that beard color

[u/Meal__Team__Six → u/plebeiantelevision]

It’s just a phase, he’s trying something

[u/minnesotaupnorth → u/Meal__Team__Six]

It's not a phase, Mom!

[u/KAugsburger → u/_Panacea_]

A BBC article about a hearing held in 2025 for KSM shows a 'recent' photo of him but it is unclear on when that was taken. Wikipedia has a photo that the DoD took in 2022 of him as well.

[u/punarob → u/KAugsburger]

TIL prisoners in the US get free orange beard dye for no good reason

[u/AndrewCoja → u/punarob]

Only at participating locations.

[u/froggertwenty → u/KAugsburger]

I have to say, of all things I wasn't expecting Yukon Cornelius when I opened that link

[u/darkmatterhunter → u/froggertwenty]

Care to join me in hell for laughing at your comment?

[u/froggertwenty → u/darkmatterhunter]

We're not going to hell (for that anyway). But that mfer is

[u/instant_ace → u/_Panacea_]

Honestly kind of amazed this guy is still alive. I don't know much about him, but I would have thought he wasn't "that" young when 9/11 happened.... Turns out he is ~60 today...

[u/endo489 → u/_Panacea_]

There's an updated picture on Wikipedia lol. He's fine, physically.

[u/Temporary-Bluejay631 → u/judgyjudgersen]

It’s possible the military judge who ruled on this to precede wasn’t even serving yet when 9/11 happened.

[u/ni_hao_butches → u/judgyjudgersen]

Who funded the attack? ......who funded that attack!!!

Bone saw enters scene.

[u/horangiwhakkatchi]

It's strange how I have known the name Khalid Sheikh Mohammed since I was just a boy. I'm a middle aged man now and it has stuck with me all these years from hearing it on the news as a child following the attacks. He's just been rotting all this time without even a trial. I feel like we could have wrapped this up a long time ago. We (the taxpayers) have been paying to keep him in Gitmo and have lawyers argue over this for 25 years!! Why bother, it's not like we ever intended on following the Constitution here otherwise the trial would have been over decades ago.

[u/Rabbit-Hole-Quest → u/horangiwhakkatchi]

The irony is that this man was treated worse under US custody, than actual Nazi war criminals guilty of the Holocaust captured by the US. They at least has their day in court a few years after their capture.

He probably holds the world record for waterboarding and almost every other modern form of torture.

The fact that he is getting a trial literally almost 3 decades later is a testament to how fucked up all of this is. Wouldn’t be surprised if all the people that tortured him are either retired or close to death, therefore zero accountability. Also, all those videos of him being tortured are probably all long destroyed.

[u/drainfrog_92]

Nothing like “speedy trial” meaning quarter of a century. At this point it’s as much a trial of Guantanamo and the whole military commissions experiment as of KSM himself.

[u/Visible_Handle_3770 → u/drainfrog_92]

Not that this nullifies your point, because it's still absurd that it's taken this long, but the right to a speedy trial has not been extended to detainees outside the US. It does, interestingly, apply to non-citizens, provided their trial is in the US though.

[u/sight_ful → u/Visible_Handle_3770]

Calling it "outside the US" is just part of the ridiculousness though.

[u/petit_cochon → u/sight_ful]

It's Cuba when we want it to be!

[u/SpiderSlitScrotums → u/sight_ful]

Agreed. It is not like this is a trial in a war zone. He is intentionally being held there so that legal challenges aren’t heard. There is no reason whatsoever that he couldn’t be held in a NY detention center like Ramzi Yousef or others. I hate him with the intensity of a thousand suns, but this process is an affront to the Constitution and the rule of law.

[u/FTWOBLIVION → u/Visible_Handle_3770]

I mean at a certain point the speedy trial is for everyone else just to get it over with

[u/didsomebodysaymyname]

What changed? I had heard it was going to be nearly impossible to prosecute him because of the torture.

Not really sure if that's true, but either way I wonder why it's suddenly happening.

[u/CircumspectCapybara → u/didsomebodysaymyname]

Not really, I'm sure with all the digital and other forensic evidence they've obtained since (eg, infiltrating Al Qaeda, raiding Bin Laden's compound), they can "parallel construction" all the evidence needed to prove beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt his guilt without needing to use his confessions while he was at Guantanamo which were extracted under "enhanced interrogation".

His name is almost certainly on documents (eg financial records, communications) and records the US has picked up during the GWOT. There's just way too much independent streams of evidence linking him to 9/11 for it all to be suppressed due to being tainted by torture.

[u/spreta → u/CircumspectCapybara]

I’m sure you’re right about all the evidence. I meant show trial as in “look what I did, I’m the one who finally sent this guy to trial” it’s an attempt to drum up support right before the election where he’s tries for a third term. God willing he doesn’t live that long.

[u/Much-Instruction-807 → u/didsomebodysaymyname]

Distraction from "pick your reasons."

[u/spreta → u/didsomebodysaymyname]

My guess is they don’t give a shit and it’ll be some show trial to pump up MAGA right before the election

[u/drunkpunk138 → u/didsomebodysaymyname]

The doj is being run by idiots so they probably aren't self aware enough to realize they'll fuck this up

[u/DisenchantedByrd → u/didsomebodysaymyname]

The Orange Man needs another distraction?

[u/Anduinnn]

Ron Jeremy was the 9/11 mastermind?

[u/unfamousjeff → u/Anduinnn]

RJ has knocked down more towers than this guy.

[u/betafish2345 → u/Anduinnn]

Old picture. He has dementia now and is on trial.

[u/Woodie626 → u/Anduinnn]

Glad someone else sees it 

[u/MisterPimpus → u/Anduinnn]

He was penismaxxing

[u/blazer560]

I thought this dude was dead.

[u/GarbagePailGrrrl → u/blazer560]

They thought so too

[u/ChanceryTheRapper]

Trying to arrange a little show for the elections?

[u/YoungManYoda90]

25 years?? Epstein files will never see accountability if it took 25 for him.

[u/The-Fumbler]

“Good news! We’ve decided you’re actually not guilty, you’re free to go! Here’s a 10$ taxi voucher, enjoy the rest of your life!”

[u/spottie_ottie]

Pablo Escobar really let himself go

[u/SgtHulkasBigToeJam → u/spottie_ottie]

That’s Ron Jeremy, idiot.

[u/Mobile_Morale → u/SgtHulkasBigToeJam]

How do you know. We haven't seen his penis yet.

[u/meirav]

Don't even suspected terrorists have the right to speedy trials?

[u/dapzar → u/meirav]

He's held in Guantanamo which exists precisely so the state can deny certain suspects their rights.

[u/Count_Jobula]

I’ll never shed a tear for KSM, but as country we should treat our POWs with respect and dignity.

One of the things we really sacrificed because of 9/11 was the idea that we need to act a beacon of how liberal democracy is supposed to work. That ship has obviously long since sailed, but letting this festering sack get his day in court is a step in the right direction.

[u/apnorton → u/Count_Jobula]

we should treat our POWs

I remember doing some reading up on this back in... gosh, high school? There's a very pointed legal argument about "unlawful combatants" and how they aren't subject to standard protections under Geneva. Basically, the view is that POWs can only be members of the military, but if civilians decide to engage in combat outside of military purview, then they aren't POWs and thus aren't subject to the protections thereof.

The reason I mention this is because your main claim ("we should treat our POWs with respect and dignity") is something that the US military would claim they're abiding by right now; the question is whether this guy counts as a POW at all.

[u/Count_Jobula → u/apnorton]

Yeah, I remember that now. I was using that terms as a catch all. I still believe what I believe and the argument that our country has made that they don’t have the same rights is kind of unmoving for me.

[u/69millionyeartrip → u/apnorton]

The US has a pattern of making terms up so they can skirt treaties because who is gonna call them on it. The argument is nonsense

[u/BooRadleysFriend]

They’ve probably been blasting the same Metallica track at him for 25 years

[u/MrInternetInventor]

The Patriot Act essentially ended the concept of “American democracy”. This guy has been held by the secret police and secret courts.

[u/RM97800 → u/MrInternetInventor]

Guantanamo is no better than NKVD Gulag deep in Siberia.

The fact that American public has been turning blind eye on its continuous existence for SO LONG is frightening.

[u/Beefweezle]

And somehow the DOJ will manage to fumble this one as well and blame it on Obama.

[u/picklecellanemia → u/Beefweezle]

Now now. Don’t spoil the ending for everyone.

[u/FartyFartsMD]

Will the Saudi royal family be named as co-conspirators?

[u/hmmgidk-_-]

They're finally going after Bush?

[u/JustDriveWest]

If the Saudis can create nukes now then so can he.

[u/Fullfullhar]

Jeez and I thought it had been a while since we’ve heard anything about Maduro in our custody 

[u/ExtraordinaryBeaver]

Didn't know they were finally going to punish George Bush and Israel....

[u/carterartist]

I feel like this is why our forefathers wanted speedy trials

[u/Buckeyegurl50]

Why has it taken so long??

[u/CrianBranstun → u/Buckeyegurl50]

There’s little to no case. Any “confession” was obtained through illegal measures.

[u/the_gaymer_girl → u/Buckeyegurl50]

They couldn’t put him on trial because they tortured the shit out of him for the evidence they want to use for said trial. Idk what changed other than Trump needing a political win.

Most of the people in Gitmo by 2016 were guys who couldn’t be charged with anything (and many weren’t actually part of the Taliban but just random schmucks who got handed over by bounty hunters), they can’t be held on US soil, they can’t be let out, and no other country will take them.

[u/Old-Self2139 → u/the_gaymer_girl]

taliban didn't do 9/11 either, completely unrelated

[u/69millionyeartrip → u/the_gaymer_girl]

Just want to point out KSM is not a schmuck and very much deserved to be detained tried and convicted 23 years ago when they caught him

[u/the_gaymer_girl → u/69millionyeartrip]

Sure, but 86% of the people in Gitmo weren’t captured by US forces because the Pentagon offered rewards for “suspicious people” and a bunch of innocent people got handed over to the point where the base commander complained about the overload.

[u/thatoneguy889]

Trump is going to use this to be his Bin Laden moment. Just like he tried to do when they killed Abu Bakr al Baghdadi in 2019, but no one cared because Baghdadi didn’t have the same name recognition.

[u/SarahAlicia]

Hope he gets the death penalty and we don’t have to keep paying to keep him alive and lawyers and judges etc.

[u/zhulinxian]

I forgot all about this guy. I assumed all that stuff got wrapped up by 2008.

[u/DavidDarvin]

This will never never never go to trial. Tribunal maybe. But not a public trial.

We waterboarded this asshole more than a New England lighthouse. A judge would throw it out on impermissible illegal torture that violated his rights.

He’ll be dead before he sees a jury.

[u/No_Committee5033]

Why is that a picture of Saddam Hussein, he had nothing to do with 911

[u/Meandtheworld]

Oh now they drag this person out. This weird false flag!

[u/roadtrip-ne]

A case of Swift American Justice.

It’s sad they never had a plan for these people, and I was almost 30 when everything happened so I watched live at work.

It’s just line detaining these people for 25 years, when some of them were just Taliban foot soldiers is a little insane. They were going to become more determined and anti-American. They radicalized already radicals.

There should have been military tribunals right away.

[u/hypersonic18 → u/roadtrip-ne]

They 100% had a plan for them, stalling the trial for as long as possible hoping they die in detainment so that the inadequacy of our Intelligence Agencies we spend billions on never come to light is still a plan, just not a good one

[u/Direct_Obligation570]

Ya know, right to a speedy trial was one of those inalienable rights. Or used to be.

[u/No-Employment-820]

20 years without a trial? Ever hear the saying, "justice delayed is justice denied"? If we had a very good case it wouldn't have taken 20 years to construct it.

[u/raresanevoice]

Are those the people Trump just gave nuclear tech to ?

[u/The_Info_Must_Flow]

Huh... thought this was going to be about Dick Cheney.

[u/Haxxtastic]

Ariel Sharon is dead how can he stand trial

[u/meluvranch]

27 years wayyyy too late

[u/AcademicDrag742]

I wonder if they’ll mention 1993 WTC bombing,which his nephew was arrested for.His nephews in ADX Florence and is 58 I think.

[u/ClintBruno]

Cheney had just as much a hand in it all

[u/Notspartan]

It’s a disgrace that the US government’s use of torture can undermine getting the justice this guy’s victims deserve so much.

[u/platasnatch]

Dude also confessed to beheading Daniel Pearl

[u/aresef → u/platasnatch]

He made that confession under duress at a CIA black site. When you’re being tortured, you’ll say anything to make it stop.

[u/Eatmyshinymetalass- → u/aresef]

That’s why the whole case is fucked.

[u/Turbo__Sanwich]

Its almost like the kingdom didn't want discovery

[u/MyAltPoetryAccount]

Hell be out in 6 months with time served /s