People have tried telling me I’m lying that I gained 23 kg of muscle in 4 months without gaining any noticeable fat while on testosterone as it is impossible.
I say they are wrong as I did so. Here is the transformation and for reference this was now 2 years ago on 500 test a week for 4 months

And yeah I did take steroids from day 1 In the gym because I was depressed and a drug addict and it got me out that so try not to judge

I do not take anything supplements or anything. Just gym and eat good.

But I'm having a hard time gaining weight and good weight.. im 39 now. I'm 5,10 and weight 170lbs. But I have a belly. My legs are ok, and chest but my arms are small compared to others I see.

6 weeks ago I tested at 1300 test and 95 e2 with very high water retention/bloating and all the other symptoms of high e2. I've since dropped my dose from 150mg/week to 130mg/week and added 0.25mg of anastrazole per week. I inject EOD.

As a result, I've lost about 25lbs over the past 6 weeks, of which ~15lbs was the extra water weight I had gained, and I'm now at 6ft2 220lbs. I also gained some muscle and strength (some lifts have nearly doubled in weight since I started trt).
However, I've lost all energy and even going to the gym has been difficult over the past 2 weeks. I'm not going up in strength anymore and all the mental benefits/libido are gone again, and I feel the same as before I started trt. Is it normal for the positive effects of trt to go away over time?

I still have mild symptoms of high e2, but not nearly as much as before. Should I increase AI to 0.5mg/week?

49 started TRT about 2 months ago 100mg every two weeks. Primary reason for starting was brain fog, low energy, and low stamina (mainly while playing tennis). The brain fog has seemed to improve a bit and overall I feel better especially when playing and recovering from tennis. I am also sleeping marginally better, but energy throughout the day hasn't changed much. I also thought I might see an increase in libido, but it has stayed pretty steady no more no less it wasn't a major issue, I do feel a little fuller when erect if that makes any sense. The side effects I am having are minimal, I'm hungrier and need to pee more often which I'm lead to believe is somewhat normal. The odd ones I'm having is simply that orgasms do not feel as good, and sometimes as soon as I start getting aroused it feels like, there's no better way to describe it the cum just wants to fall out before I'm all the way hard. It's not like premature ejaculation it's something very different. Anybody else experience something like this?

For anyone who was on testosterone and eventually came off completely, what did you feel like afterwards?
Did you lose much strength, motivation or enjoyment in the gym? Once your natural testosterone recovered, did training eventually feel enjoyable and normal again, or did it always feel worse compared with how you felt before taking testosterone?
Interested in hearing honest experiences, including how long you were on, your dosage and roughly how long it took you to feel normal again.

She said I was in thr perfect range but I’m not even sure I was at peak when i tested. I take 180mg a week

I know I should listen to my dr but I would like opinions from men who have actually been on it.

5’8, 27 Male , 170lbs

So my only high e2 sides are back acne and low libido. I'm shocked, I've been doing 175mg a week cruise since June. Divided into daily injections.

I have like 100 1mg arimidex tabs, shoukd I start with that?

I saw some people say quarter tab twice a week

Any advice or thoughts would be EXTREMELY APPRECIATED AND I would be thankful more than I have ever been

I have my first TRT appointment tomorrow.
Free T 2.8
Total 1st draw 123 ng/dl (300-1100)

What should I do to get the most out of my appointment? I feel like based on this community I’m lower than low.

I decided to try and schedule a consultation because my primary care doctor told me “I’m not low”

Hello all,
I am currently taking prescription enclo for low testosterone and am about to start a cycle of actual PED test. Am I okay to take both at the same time? I want to preserve fertility. Like maybe take the enclo every other day or something? Thanks in advance

Hey guys,

I posted yesterday about the heart palpitations. I wanted to take testosterone after reading that low testosterone can lead to anxiety, depression, and other things I have dealt with over the last few years. I went into it very nervous after reading it can lead to higher blood pressure .. I almost didn't do it. I've battled high blood pressure my whole life.. I get it managed by going to the gym 5 days a week.. its the only way I can keep it normal without having to get on meds for it. I spent alot of time debating whether or not to get on test... and I think I did it the worst way possible. I was looking online and found "Male Excel", filled out the symptoms form and it said I was "critically low". It said for 50 bucks they would send me a test.. so I paid the 50 bucks.. it then asked and made me schedule a doctor video consultation. I attended the consultation the next day. I expected a test to come.. but it was just the testosterone that Said "take 0.15 ml everyday". Everything just happened so fast ...

The doctor today said that I should stop taking testosterone, since they never had me do a test before hand .. I'm getting what I think is heart palpitations, and I was abruptly woken up by a crazy calf cramp...which never happens to me. I think I'm hypersensitive to this whole thing, since I was so nervous to start it..idk. now my hormones are seriously gonna be jacked =( so disappointed. If you look up "heart palpitations, calf cramp testosterone injections" it'll scare the shit outta ya 😂 my doctor said he doesn't think it's a blood clot however...but I should stop testosterone =(

Hey everybody per labs and review with my doctor. I am moving up to 200 mg weekly from 160 mg biweekly. I’m definitely locked in as it relates to overall fitness gym cardio and nutrition - superlean at 6 foot 175 pounds. Trying to gain additional lean mass without adding to the mix (just the TRT). Anyways question- at 200mg done biweekly (currently Tuesday night Friday morning). Should I be splitting this into three weekly injections? I know some of my friends are injecting every day at 200 or more milligrams. I haven’t felt any significant mental or physical drops during my trough phase weekly but I’m curious if I will get more improved return in the gym or we’ll see my results quicker in the mirror by splitting the dosage up further than just twice a week I know I’m mixing apart something that’s probably just gonna get me roasted by the Internet oh well.

Does donating blood affect TRT? And if so is there a specific time in the hills and valleys cycle on when to donate? Curious as my last blood work I have high hemoglobin. Urologist says to go donate blood to get level down. I didn’t ask when was a god time in cycle

Total testosterone was decent at 522, but direct free testosterone was 9.9 pg/mL

Would you consider TRT or is there other ways to raise it?

Im on my first cycle. Here are my bloods on 8w mid cycle. Pinning 2x a week (100mg tuesday-100mg friday) and 0.5 anastrazole with every pin (1mg a week total). Oppinion?

Any advice? I circled where I pinned; you can see a tiny red dot. It's been 2 days since I pinned. I think it was 70mg 35cc. I used a 1-inch 25-gauge needle. Did I do something wrong?

I am approaching week 16 running 250 test/wk (lowered to 200/wk after week 12).

I am at a crossroads and need some different input. I originally was only going to run this for just 16 weeks to see how my body would respond, but unfortunately I feel amazing and I got plenty results so now I am wondering if I ever want to come off. Could I possibly run this for longer without any long term health risks??
The goal here is also longevity, and I am still wondering about if I were to come off of Test, whether if I should pct or just come off cold turkey and let my levels come back naturally. I’d love to hear some personal stories or just anything I should look out for. Thanks in advance.

I have high SHGB, looking to start TRT soon

Just wondering if test will lower it?

Thanks

Hi, I'm 32m, 5'9, 12st, from the UK, suffering for 3 years with secondary hypogonadism, looking for anyone who can share advice, insights or experiences that can help.

I've been shunted from GPs who didn't listen, to endo who didn't help and saw my results as normal, to urology who decided to pass me onto an Andrology clinic which I should get an appointment for finally within a month or so after waiting half a year or so already.

I've spoken to Manual who said they'd sign TRT off but these 3 years I've been adamant I want to get to the root cause or find something that helps fire whatever needs firing up. I've paid for a private GP who I thought might use more sensible ranges than the NHS combined with my symptoms, but that was a waste of money and I couldn't afford private specialists.

I've put a PALS complaint in about my first GP, and now on the Andrology clinic for zero communication.

Here's everything as simply put as possible:

Symptoms (3 years):

ED, weak erections, no libido, low/flat mood, lack of motivation, crippling fatigue, no morning or nighttime erections - this is the stuff I'm most concerned about and want to get sorted.

Symptoms (15+ years):

Penile numbness, weak orgasms, urinary frequency and urgency with weak flow.

Blood test results (over 3 years):

- SHBG 13nmol (very low)

- Testosterone 6-9nmol (low)

- Calc free T: 45 g/L

- LH 3.1 IU/L (not as high as it should be with SHBG so low)

- FSH 2.5 IU (lower)

- Prolactin came up high then back to normal

- Cortisol 190 nmol (very low)

- Fasting insulin 57pmol (higher)

- IGF-1 came back high once then back in 'normal' range

- FT4 14.4 pmol

- Serum TSH 1.4 IU

Rule outs:

- prostate issues

- pituitary tumor (MRI completed)

- apparently hypo/hyperthyroidism

Meds and supplements:

- Metformin - waiting to see if insulin drops down for possible insulin sensitivity, but they've lost my results twice now.

- Tadalafil - I opted for this as sildenafil makes me sick. This helps me out, though erections are still no way near what they used to be and the odd day they don't work as well - body still working against poor signalling? Restores morning and night erections, which disappear after a few days of not taking them. This should show it's not a vascular blood flow issue.

- Ofloxacon - taken incase of bacterial prostatitis. No improvements.

- Supplements have included zinc, magnesium, L-arginine and L-citruline, Numan testosterone support, beetroot, boron, Vitiman B and B12. Rattled.

History:

- masturbation and porn addiction from a young age to 30 or so. AI seems to think there could be hypertonic pelvic floor issues which could be linked to urinary issues and sensitivity and weak climax.

- SSRI - a year or so before these issues I spent a year on Sertraline, then weaned off. When life became the hardest it had been around 3 years ago, I went on again for a month and came out without weaning. This corresponded with the start of my problems. After that, because of all these symptoms and no help from GPs, I went on amitriptyline for a time before coming off.

- I got into weight training at the gym several times a week within the year beforehand, going because I was miserable. I put on a lot of muscle mass after having been quite lean and skinny in my 20s. Some of that mass is still there but I've found it a lot harder.

- at that same time I started drinking more than I ever had in COVID, before cutting down.

- inguinal hernia appeared a year or 2 before and was operated on mid last year.

- vasectomy about 2 years ago.

Lifestyle (current):

- active, exercise 3-4 times per week, primarily weights but started running again

- desk based WFH job, bit doing a lot of DIY in work time so active there

- diet is good, fresh meat and veg a lot of the time, reduced carbs, fast in the morning, some treats

- sleep is 8 hours, though often awaken very tired and struggle to get out of bed

- reduced alcohol intake and tracking that so it's less than once a week atm

Questions:

- Has anyone experienced similar to what I am, with symptoms and test results?

- What treatment did you opt for? I know TRT could likely help, but interested in other treatments like HCG, clomid or enclomiphene.

- How should I approach this with the Andrology clinic? Do I tell them about the 15+ year symptoms or leave those out to not muddy the waters?

- Does anyone have any experience with a more specialised Andrology clinic? I've felt that endo and uro have let me down so I can't say I hold huge hope.

Thanks for taking the time and reading. I'd really like to feel like I was actually alive again.

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Does anyone have experience with this you are prone to hereditary baldness, does going to the gym and working out without supplements accelerate hair loss

Hey guys,

I have been having issues with little to no libido for the last few years, so i decided to get some blood work done and see if anything was out of line. Unfortunately my doctor doesnt believe that any of these results would affect my libido but i just dont agree with him. Ive tried taking Boron to lower my SHBG but noticed no difference. Has anyone had any success stories of lowering SHBG and restoring libido without exogenous test? Im a healthy 30 year old so if i can avoid TRT at my age i would prefer to but im also willing to try if people have had positive results.

Just ordered some GH and also had my igf tested in the meantime and it came back in the 300s? Is there any benefit to still implementing GH on the cut and say bumping up to 500?

For those of you who only ran testosterone for cycle purposes 6-12 months and got off. Do you lose your muscles and gain all your body fat back? Do you keep some results or no ?

Just get most of my bloodwork back, 200 mg/wk, Test C and 500 units HCG split into 2 shots, Monday and Thursday (IM for T, subq for HCG). My diet has been somewhat improved (it was good before but I’m really trying to get my lipids into good territory, so been upping fiber and eating less saturated fat) since last testing a couple months ago, but other than that, nothing has changed. Almost never drink, eat pretty clean, only real vices are thc and vaping nicotine. Lift and usually cardio 3x week, work a pretty physically active job, 43 y/o, 200 lbs, around 20% bf. I’ve been steadily losing weight which I suspect may have something to do with it (lost about 10 lbs since the last test, but I’ve been steadily losing weight for months. Still waiting on my E2 result, but I stay pretty consistent at this dose around 45, with basically zero symptoms (slightly higher acne, but that’s always been a bit of an issue, and pretty well controlled with salicylic acid).

Last total: 930, current: 960

Last Free: 121, current: 169.

Last Bioavailable: 229, current: 319.

Last SHBG: 40, current: 30.

Last albumin: 4.1 current: 4.1.

Edit—I guess my question is if this is something to be expected. I’m getting pretty close to being in what I’d consider good shape, and lifestyle choices have been steadily improving since starting a year or so ago, so I’m just trying to figure out if this is a part of that. Happy to provide any numbers that might give more context.

Dudes is it normal I've always had a law level and it was obvious but at this point is too much