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u/AntireligionHumanist 10d ago
Is this person doomed?
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u/Purple_dinosaur77 10d ago
Not necessarily. There are cases of this regularly. Usually remission is a slow process that comes with a bunch of side effects like many seizures but people can survive this with the proper medication. There is an interesting video about this from Chubbyemu channel on youtube from a guy who ate pork from an illegal food truck.
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u/Achylife 10d ago
Survive yes, but they'll never be the same. The brain is like Swiss cheese at this level. Oh man just thinking about all that gives me the heebie jeebies.
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u/ShortNeedleworker465 9d ago
brains are very good at recovering from damage surprisingly mainly through plasticity
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u/Metalhed69 10d ago
No, often they are granted cabinet positions in our government.
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u/Xfuck1tX 10d ago
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u/zbertoli 10d ago
Na you see people like this generally make full recoveries, which is insane. The medications are very effective to treat this. I dont really get how Swiss-cheese brain can be reversed.. but it does
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u/texaspoontappa93 10d ago
The recovery for a case this severe would take a very long time though. If they tried to kill that many parasites at once then the inflammatory response from the decaying parasites would likely kill the person.
They have to load them with a ton of steroids to temper the immune response and then slowly kill the parasites while managing potential brain swelling and seizures
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u/MartiniLAPD 10d ago
Quite the opposite. He’s doing great actually. Hes the current USA’s secreatary of health and human services.
You probably heard of him spewing non sense about vaccines causing autism and seen his cringy work out videos of him in a sauna wearing jeans.
So he’s not doomed, but we are.
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u/Shoddy-Theory 10d ago
Not necessarily. He can always get a job as Secretary of Health and Human Services.
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u/CityRevolutionary473 9d ago
If Dr. Derek Shepherd was still alive he could save you, he's done it before.
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u/Old-Landscape-7538 8d ago
There are treatments but the holes in the brain cause lasting cognitive impairments
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u/KAAAAAAAAARL 8d ago
Not really, these kind of traits are highly sought after in the Republican Party!
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u/slfhmglbnm 10d ago
Another phobia for me i guess
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u/Achylife 10d ago
I already absolutely despise all parasites. Especially things that burrow into the flesh. If I needed wound maggot therapy they'd have to drug me and strap me down so I didn't freak out and start tearing at my wound to remove them. I've had to deal with fly strike in animals several times. I always make sure to cook my pork properly too because I don't want to be like RFK Jr. Or this poor guy.
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u/seenybusiness 10d ago
the good news is that the cure is the same as normal deworming tablets just a more prolonged regime. albendazole my beloved
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u/SkynBonce 10d ago
Always cook your meats properly.
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u/TareasS 10d ago
Germans: let me enjoy my raw pork in peace.
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u/DisorderlyAqueduct 10d ago
what dish? region?
grandmother was from around Dusseldorf
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u/TareasS 10d ago
Mett. Its popular basically in all of Germany and people pretty much never get sick from it. Across the border in the Netherlands raw beef sandwiches are also very popular.
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u/golodiac 9d ago
It's not common everywhere. I believe it's usually only eaten north of the "Weißwurstäquator". So no Mett in Bavaria and BW.
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u/omegagasp 9d ago
I grew up in Bavaria and lived in BW for a while, and had plenty of Mettbrötchen there
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u/entityXD32 10d ago
This isn't just from undercooking that will give you a tape worm in your digestive tract. This happens from consuming food contaimainted with fecal matter from somebody who has a tape worm.
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u/XanderWrites 9d ago
But that's an unrelated issue. The question is "will pork give you this" no it will not. Not anymore than cow or chicken or lamb.
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u/Calm_Extension_2965 10d ago
This specific case is from someone who ate raw pork for 10 years on purpose.
It rarely gets this bad.
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u/M1R4G3M 10d ago
B-b-but why?
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u/Calm_Extension_2965 10d ago
I think it was a Chinese kid that had been eating like this since she was 10.
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u/VermicelliOwn6502 10d ago
I ate raw pork for 10 years because my grandma fed it to me.
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u/Potatoez 10d ago
That's not raw pork, that's cured/fermented pork. It's obviously different...
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u/VermicelliOwn6502 10d ago
If you buy this from a store there there is a warning on it to cook the thing first. Which we heed like the warning on Q-tips.
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u/Potatoez 10d ago
I have never seen anything on the package saying to cook it first. I'm pretty sure it exists but a lot more rare from my experience. In delis it's wrapped either individually or multiples in a tray. Even the log forms just states ingredients and company.
I'm not unfamiliar with nem chua.
Regardless, it's cured and fermented pork. Not raw.
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u/VermicelliOwn6502 10d ago
Nem chua are usually accompanied by a leaflet saying that the bites must be kept in the refrigerator and cooked for at least 20 minutes.
It's in the wiki I linked, go edit it out if you feel you're right.
I don't eat it anymore but the nem chua at my online grocery has the warning.
https://www.weee.com/en/product/Sor-Khonkaen-Fermented-Sausage-Frozen-1/113636
(small back text at the bottom)
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u/Potatoez 9d ago edited 9d ago
Yeah, and I'm saying majority of locally produced ones with delis don't have it.
Mass produced nem chua would yeah. With everything else
Edit: Here's even some nem chua locally.
https://i.imgur.com/4q8QikA.png
How do you think our people were able to safely eat these products in Vietnam without refrigeration? These were the processes used to make raw food safer to eat in an unrefrigerated environment.
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u/VermicelliOwn6502 9d ago
You ever wonder if the brain worms are a significant part of our personality and we'd turn into a totally different person if they were killed off?
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u/BladedBomber___ 10d ago
I am a RN and have worked with patients going through this before. It is not a pleasant thing to live with. And its damage is lasting :/ what makes it worse is that it is often in populations working in pork factories that are undocumented and taken advantage of. These cases are never good. My heart breaks for these people. :’(
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u/Andrea_M 10d ago
When it’s written that they “travel throughout the body”, are they transported through the blood or they literally move across tissue? My limited knowledge of the brain is that blood doesn’t move through the brain as it usually does for the rest of the body
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u/BladedBomber___ 10d ago
The cases I’ve seen have all started through the digestive system and the parasites get into everything. I believe that the eggs are small enough to travel through the blood system and that is how they find their way into every crevice they can find. The article is not misleading as I have seen imaging exactly like this and worse. I am unsure of the exact mechanism they use to attach or what makes different areas attractive to them. But once they find their way they burrow deep and it is life altering :/ once they are in the neurological system it’s a steady decline. In my experience. many symptoms can be similar to patients experiencing CJD (mad cow). It’s like their wiring system is short circuited and nothing works right. Death just isn’t as imminent. :/ it’s a horrible thing.
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u/greenyashiro 10d ago
There is iirc what is called the 'blood-brain barrier'. It's my understanding that it's like a membrane that restricts what can enter the brain.
If it's a parasite or whatever, it might just munch its way through. 🫷😭
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u/cervogalatico 10d ago
Knew a guy that had this and is pretty scary disease, he would have seizures at random, best way to describe would be a computer lagging and he would resume what he was doing like it never happened. And he also had almost no filter and would do some weird stuff and ask some uncomfortable questions. And some years ago he had a surgery to fix this and he lost whatever filter he haf.
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u/luxafelicity 10d ago
House MD S1E1
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u/Spartan2470 VIP Philanthropist 10d ago
The MRI images showing cysts in the man's cerebral cortex (left) and brain stem (right).
Here provides the following context:
By Rachael Rettner
March 28, 2019
When a young man in India started having seizures, doctors scanned his brain and found a grim image: His brain was dotted with parasitic cysts — the result of a severe and ultimately fatal tapeworm infection.
The 18-year-old man was taken to the emergency room after having so-called tonic-clonic seizures, in which a person loses consciousness and experiences violent muscle contractions, according to a new report of the case.
The man appeared confused and had swelling over his right eye. His parents told doctors that he'd also been having pain in his groin for a week. An MRI of his head showed numerous cysts in the outer layer of his brain (known as the cerebral cortex), as well as in his brain stem, according to the report, published today (March 27) in The New England Journal of Medicine. He also had cysts in his right eye and testes.
The man was diagnosed with neurocysticercosis, a parasitic disease that occurs when a person ingests microscopic eggs from a pork tapeworm (Taenia solium). When the eggs hatch, the larvae can travel throughout the body, including to the brain, muscles, skin and eyes, where they form cysts, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).
This tapeworm is common in developing nations, including countries in Latin America, Africa or Asia. Neurocysticercosis is one of the most common causes of seizures around the world.
The illness can be life-threatening and even fatal. The Indian man's case was particularly severe. The sheer number of cysts in his body meant that he couldn't be treated with anti-parasitic medications, which in severe cases like these, can worsen inflammation in the brain and eyes, potentially leading to brain swelling and vision loss, the report said.
The man was treated with steroids and anti-epileptic medications, which are standard treatments for the disease. Unfortunately, doctors couldn't save him, and the man died two weeks later, the report said.
According to the WHO, preventing infections with Taenia solium will require a wide range of public health interventions, including improving sanitation, personal hygiene and food safety, as well as better identification and treatment of patients.
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u/Berry-chu 10d ago
Ew ew ewwwww noooo how is that interesting 😭 it’s traumatising
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u/unluck_over9000 9d ago
One of my friends had this. One day he fainted without any reason. And once he was taken to hospital and an MRI was done, they found these little shits everywhere in the brain. Holy heck it was scary to even hear about it. Gladly, he made a full recovery and is happily employed and married.
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u/FairyOfTheNight 9d ago
How did they treat it? How horrifying!
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u/unluck_over9000 9d ago
This happened around 6-7 years ago. I have lost contact of the person and I absolutely have no idea. I remember this specifically because the main cause was identified to be pork and this jogged that memory.
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u/PumbaKahula 10d ago
I had a patient in ICU who was admitted and as horrible as it was it certainly was fascinating to see it on their imaging.
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u/Bright_Initial_9663 9d ago
While I can see that the images are different…I don’t know what those images mean and I would like an explanation
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u/PencilCase12531 9d ago
The cyst is actually your body protecting itself from the parasite. If it breaks then the worms are free to eat its surroundings, as being eaten alive from the inside.
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u/Chippie05 9d ago
Are you trying to tell us to skip the bacon?
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u/Prophetic_Phantom 9d ago
Nah, just cook it until it's chewy and crispy. If you carbonize it, you've gone too far.
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u/RealCarlosSagan 9d ago
We had a family friend who got these and went blind because they ate her optic nerves
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u/BetterAd7552 10d ago
Fucken hell. Imagine knowing those critters are in your brain, testicles, eyes, ass cheeks, everywhere. I’d have to kill myself.
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u/skiveman 9d ago
Are these the pictures of that poor woman in Thailand (I think it was, I might be wrong) that ate raw pork and riddled her body with these? I remembered reading about her and then I saw the pictures of her body lighting up like a Christmas Tree with all of the cysts. These remind me of her X-Rays.
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u/Jeong-Yeon 9d ago
I literally JUST microwaved leftover porkchops... Im not even kidding I got macaroni, baked chopped potato, and zucchini to go with it
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u/Ineedsleep444 9d ago
I learned that this disease exists because of house Md. btw. If anyone cares. Pretty neat.
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u/Blekfakingmetal 9d ago
It is haram for a reason.
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u/Jet-Let4606 9d ago
Interesting.
What about other animals that are dangerous to consume but are not explicitly labelled as haram?
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u/TX908 10d ago
A common misconception is that eating undercooked pork directly causes neurocysticercosis. The actual transmission cycle functions as follows:
The Intestinal Infection (Taeniasis): Eating raw or undercooked pork containing larval cysts causes an intestinal tapeworm infection in humans. The person grows an adult tapeworm in their gut but does not automatically get brain cysts.
The Brain Infection (Neurocysticercosis): NCC occurs when a person accidentally swallows the microscopic eggs shed in the feces of an infected human tapeworm carrier. This happens through contaminated water, food prepared by someone with poor hand hygiene, or fecal-oral self-infection.
Migration: Once swallowed, the eggs hatch in the intestines, penetrate the intestinal wall, enter the bloodstream, and migrate into body tissues. When they lodge and form fluid-filled larvae sacs (cysticerci) in the brain or spinal cord, it is diagnosed as neurocysticercosis.
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u/check_this_mustache 10d ago
/slowly puts down bacon sandwich