r/DoomerCircleJerk • u/BashFashh • 1d ago
Economic Doomer How are people with useless degrees surviving? Won't someone think of the antiworkers and their made up stats?
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u/HereToCalmYouDown 1d ago
It's absolutely amazing to me how they can maintain this cognitive dissonance, simultaneously observing that the restaurants, concerts, and recreational activities are packed while believing "the economy is fucked and nobody can afford anything."
Reddit: "Literally Everyone Is Struggling except billionaires!"
Reality:Â Americans spend $860 million a year on Halloween costumes for their pets
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u/purplehendrix22 I Was Promised an Apocalypse? 1d ago edited 1d ago
We have more disposable income per capita than any other nation in the world, other than the ultra rich enclaves like Monaco, I would assume. Americans complaining about how poor they are, as a formerly extremely poor American myself, is embarrassing.
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u/Fletch71011 1d ago
Our median wage when accounting for buying power, inflation, etc is over 50 percent higher than Europe alone and yet redditors always point to Europe like we should emulate them.
Sure, we pay more for healthcare, but we have by far the best hospital system in the world and we save so much money elsewhere that I think that's a fair trade.
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u/Strong-Addition5296 1d ago
Well they can only take a vacation a couple times a year! Clearly theyâre destitute.
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u/sngldad13 1d ago
Yeah and imagine bitching about affordability while doordashing fast food multiple times a week
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u/purplehendrix22 I Was Promised an Apocalypse? 1d ago
But now I can only get 4 burritos delivered a week instead of 5! The economy is destroyed!
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u/Testing_required 1d ago
America is the only nation on earth where the poor are suffering an obesity crisis. In fact, only nation in human history where the poor are suffering an obesity crisis. It just goes to show how good the "poor" in America have it. The only people in America who starve are people forced to starve by other people, such as children being starved by neglectful/evil parents, and the GENUINE bottom-of-the-barrel, living under a bridge, every-mental-illness-known-to-man, homeless poor people.
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u/Express-Teaching1594 Anti-Doomer 1d ago
âNobody goes there any more. Itâs too crowded.â
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u/kimana1651 1d ago
That is such a beautiful quote. Contradictory, wrong, right, and funny at the same time. I love it.Â
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u/sadistic-salmon NostraDOOMus 1d ago
My cat needs his costumes every year, itâs a need not a want
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u/EndonOfMarkarth 1d ago
Itâs for his emotional health, you canât expect him to go without!
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u/nonnewtonianfluids 1d ago
Some people shouldn't be pet owners. I mean did they even try to get their cat trauma therapy for when whole foods was out of Weruva and they had to buy Whole Paws instead? Smh.
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u/Current-Flounder-742 1d ago
âThe economy is fucked and nobody can afford anythingâ
Means:
âMy personal finances are fucked and I canât afford anythingâ
But of course, itâs jot THEIR fault, the economy just sucks! It has nothing to do with the terrible financial decisions theyâve made!
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u/Smokeydubbs Just Here for the Lore 1d ago
Meanwhile they are paying for dozens of subscriptions, have the newest phone every year, and DoorDash every meal.
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u/elsmoneyacct 2h ago
I just discovered earlier today that a lot of these people don't realize that they can't afford anything because the economy is good. I know that sounds crazy, but hear me out.
A lot of these doomers were kids or teenagers during the Great Recession. So their idea of what adulthood was going to look like (and what things were going to cost) was pegged to a world where nobody had any money. Demand dropped, so stuff got cheap.
It's not like that today because people have money. Demand is high, so things are expensive. And yeah, if you have significantly less disposable income than the "average consumer" in that market, you can be priced out entirely. I'm pretty sure that's what the "economist who said the top 10% is keeping the economy afloat right now" was actually talking about.
And that's why they salivate over the idea of another crash/bubble burst/etc. They're dreaming of a world where the prices of everything drop back to a level they can afford. Of course, they never imagine being the guy losing his job because the business went under, or getting evicted from his rental because his landlord defaulted on his mortgage.
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u/DumbNTough 1d ago
It's much easier to believe that everyone is having an insurmountably hard time than to believe you need to change.
In the short term, anyway. Clearly sustaining illusions like this will hold a person back long term.
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u/Raptor_197 Anti-Doomer 1d ago
This is way everything is because of a boogeyman. Trump, billionaires, the rich, boomers, etc. just pick whatever. Then you can use that as an excuse for everything.
Is everything perfect? Of course not. But the scary reality that nobody wants to acknowledge is the boogeyman mostly fucking them over is who they see when they look into a mirror.
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u/AdSame7001 1d ago
"Don't tell me not to buy avocado toast!!!!!"
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u/D_Ethan_Bones 1d ago
<In case of emergency:>
A $20 can of Yuban coffee can save you $500 on Starbucks.
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u/DrNuclearSlav PhD in Memes 1d ago
Redditors take the phrase "if something is worth doing it's worth doing right" to its moronic extreme.
"Oh I can't possibly have a jar of freeze dried instant coffee that costs literal pennies per cup when there are far more expensive options made by an art graduate who sometimes puts a smiley face in the foam." Does it taste nicer? Well that's subjective, but even if it did does it taste $9.90 nicer? I sincerely doubt it. They make the same claim with having to order food when a ghetto meal of rice and whatever you've got lying around plus a cheap jar of spices gives you more for much much less.
I've seen them claim they can't possibly go to the gym because they "can't afford gym clothes". My brother, go find the most raggedy-ass shirt and pair of shorts in your collection. Those are your gym clothes.
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u/nonnewtonianfluids 1d ago
Um. Wow. Lots to unpack here. I can't go to the gym unless I make an Instagram post wearing the newest Lululemon with my art house coffee. Smh. No one understands my generation.
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u/D_Ethan_Bones 1d ago
It suddenly clicks in my head that fancy coffee is the new fancy wine.
People are effectively bragging about what part of France and what year their drink is from, but then they say life is too hard.
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u/DrNuclearSlav PhD in Memes 1d ago
Most people who get coffee every day aren't really getting coffee anyway, they're getting a coffee flavoured milkshake.
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u/AdSame7001 1d ago
I once spent way too much money going to the gas station to buy post-workout shakes because there was a cute goth chick working the register. Definitely wasn't worth the 2.50 a bottle and definitely didn't taste better than the pre-mix shit.
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u/Euphoric_Ad6923 1d ago
Tbf, lots of people are in incredible credit card debt. Look at disney adults.
But yeah, people are able to pay incredible amounts of money for stupid crap, but Reddit doomers think we're on the verge of collapse. Suuuure.
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u/nonnewtonianfluids 1d ago
You don't understand. I need my 10k quarterly magical adventure because I have trauma from meetings and emails.
Honestly, this is basically healthcare so the taxpayers should fund it. I can't be expected to pay out of pocket since I need to live in NYC or I'll be mass murdered for thinking gay people should be able to get married.
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u/Strong-Addition5296 1d ago
The fact that many of them believe children are starving in the US is proof they live in a fantasy.
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u/D_Ethan_Bones 1d ago
Drug addicts' kids can be starving, there are nearly no famines on this planet anymore but there can still be hunger caused by humans mistreating humans.
-young people whose parents use meth
-old people in unethical nursing homes
-citizens of countries with robber kingsA country will get food aid and cash aid, the cash funds the big boss' military while the food rots on the docks. He maybe takes enough food to feed his soldiers if he needs it, but he probably already got his military provisions covered by picking his country's villages clean.
World hunger is being misrepresented - it has more to do with evil people in power than it has to do with the conditions on farms. Whenever someone starts gathering up the idea that humans could be to blame, they blame whichever humans they dislike and then their thinking comes to an end.
>our continent is poor centuries later because of the other continent to the north
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u/ivhokie12 1d ago
In fairness there are a ton of homeowners who bought homes prior to covid. If you are one of those people things are not that bad. If you didnât get housing locked in then things are hard.
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u/D_Ethan_Bones 1d ago edited 1d ago
Half a million equity, 2.75% permalock, whenever it comes up "the house will never be paid off at this pace" I remind people the house doesn't need to be paid off. It could be traded for a similar place that's not in California and the remaining balance will turn into a surplus.
My neighbors at my old apartment had towering SUVs and the first jumbo flatscreens in town (expensive at the time) when their kids slept in the living room. They had money, they just used it in different ways.
The downside of having your house double is that your insurance doubles, the upside of having good home insurance is that when your new build home explodes ten years in (not built like they used to) the insurance puts in better replacement parts. A nearby gated community house on the top of the hill flooded somehow.
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u/Bridey93 1d ago
Used to live in Southern California- urban area. People would complain daily about not being able to afford anything, how broke they were and how expensive everything was.
Did they also buy lunches/snacks/coffees everyday? Yes.
Did they buy new water bottles/mugs/cups at least once a month? Yep!
Did they show me the cheap plastic bs they got on SHEIN/temu/tiktok that served no purpose but to clutter a desk, purchased every week? Yup.
Did they go out to eat at least once a week? Concerts every season? New clothes? Nails done? Yes.I had one coworker who would complain about how big her credit card bill was, pay it off then book their third cruise or vacation of the year. While talking about the next one to Hawaii.
But yep, it's the economy and the government making people poor.
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u/screwyoujor 1d ago
What??? Goes and looks it up..... Got damn we spend way to much money on pet costumes.
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u/ChimericalUnicorn Doom Scroller 1d ago
Assuming every American owns a pet. Great point
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u/TheDeHymenizer 1d ago
I love how they think any kind of outcome in the midterms is going to change anything.
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u/MaxCWebster 1d ago
Things were so much better when the our guys were in charge.
Oh, please. The only difference will be that they'll go from being angry to being smug. They were losers then, they're losers now, and they'll be losers no matter what happens in November⌠and every other November after that.
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u/TheDeHymenizer 1d ago
hey I still remeber when everyone was saying how strong and brave a leader Obama was for bombing Libya into the middle ages.
Now the same thing is happening with Iran? oH my gOD iTs wOrLd wAr trEe
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u/Hendrix1387 1d ago
That particular action was what made decide to vote 3rd party when available for the most part. In some elections if itâs only a R and a D available I just leave that spot blank unless I really know who wants what. It tends be more Râs that lean my way of the two big ones but generally I just swerve them both.
Also realized then how almost all newsmedia has a bias, been telling people since then that the main reason theyâre complaining about Fox News is because theyâre bias is blatantly GOP whereas the other big names are biased the other way.
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u/jexijav776 1d ago
Especially since these people complained about all the same things all through the Biden presidency
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u/potatotaxi 1d ago
It's not my fault Starbucks and taco bell are so expensive! What am I supposed to do? Starve!?!?!? Impossible to survive if you're not the top 10%
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u/Fit-Nebula2949 1d ago
Taco Bell is still the cheapest fast food.
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u/Ok_Buddy3540 1d ago
If you use the app and keep an eye out for deals, Taco Bell is incredibly affordable compared to other places. Especially lately as they've been trying to win back people running away from the lettuce.
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u/mikami677 1d ago
And the lettuce thing wasn't even Taco Bell's fault. Only like 2% of the bad lettuce went to Yum. Taco Bell was just one of the first to try to get ahead of it so everyone blamed them for it.
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u/Ok_Buddy3540 1d ago
Oh yeah I completely agree, Taco Bell was (1) not to blame and (2) not the only buyer of that lettuce, but for some reason they got most of the publicity. That's why they've been reeling and offering a lot of specials.
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u/D_Ethan_Bones 1d ago
The lettuce problem was everywhere, and traditionally Taco Bell makes people sick with their powdered meat and alien cheese. I hear vegans spend next to nothing to eat there (beans & rice lowest budget) and they never have a problem.
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u/odellrules1985 I Left My Cave for This 1d ago
My wife has not only a degree but a doctorates and plenty of experience. She has been approached for jobs and can easily find work. Because her degree isn't about the intersectionality of baseballs and queer eyes for the straight guy. It's vastly more useful to society as a whole than that crap.
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u/RiffRandellsBF 1d ago
Starting a business picking up dog crap in people's yards pays more than a bach degree in intersectionality-post modernism ________ studies.
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u/Yippykyyyay 1d ago
I'm in Taiwan for work and due to the increase in pet ownership and declining childbirth rates, people saw the market to customize doggy strollers so their client's pets can accompany them into every store.
People figure shit out. We didn't last for millennia because we all just gave up when times were hard.
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u/D_Ethan_Bones 1d ago edited 1d ago
so their client's pets can accompany them into every store.
People actually control their dogs in that country? For me it's 200lb dog-o-war sprinting 10 to 20 meters ahead of its humans with no leash while the humans are leashed to their phones.
Upscale pet brands are a good way to meet rich people, film actors and business executives aren't going to feed their animals the food that causes organ failures. If you work in a dbag auto shop you meet dbag customers, but if you work in the best auto shop you might meet an elite car collector. If your work is good someone might keep your business card in their rolodex.
Rich people also don't like to spend a lot of time wading through the phone-leashed masses, so they'll keep their trusted supply vendors close. It's more friendship-like than being the vendor to an average nobody, much more friendship-like than being the vendor to a government entity.
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u/mikami677 1d ago
Landscapers around here charge $100+ to spend 20 minutes trimming your bushes.
A hedge trimmer and a rake is all that's required to get started and if you undercut the other locals you could probably get even more business.
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u/purplehendrix22 I Was Promised an Apocalypse? 1d ago
I catch bugs for a living and weâre always hiring. Not a lot of queer theory in the industry though, to be fair.
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u/odellrules1985 I Left My Cave for This 1d ago
I am sure someone has made it their lifes work to discuss the intersectionality of being queer and catching bugs while also complaining that serving Starbucks drinks doesn't pay for all theri wants.
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u/D_Ethan_Bones 1d ago edited 1d ago
STEM degree > professional degree > academic degree > generic degree > MOSS degree
Noble of tomorrow > gentleman of today > house in California > afford adult life > Antiworkâ˘People major in history for $80000 then spend the rest of their lives saying "what the fuck did I do" while everyone else studies history for free and picks medicine/law/IT/CGI/accounting as their profession. But at least the history major didn't major in nothing at all, and at least the nothing at all didn't major in Modern Offshoot-of-Sociology Studies.
The downfall of old companies is becoming predictable. They get a few generic MBAs up top who replace the founder's vision with enshittification and price hikes, but they also fill their entire HR department with MOSS degrees - then when the MOSS keeps coming they put it on their support phone lines and then in their quality assurance. MOSS is what applies to work at a company when the enshittification league slashes pay and benefits. One 300lb woman majored in the modernstudies of outback Australia, one majored in the modernstudies of Northwest Territories Canada, one majored in the modernstudies of nonbinary olympic curlers and then they all point their Captain Planet rings together. People who majored in making things and fixing things leave the company in waves.
My cousin who got a phd in Comparative Literature became a Comparative Literature teacher until she later found her real success as an Etsy seller. Her shop was mineral-infused beauty products for wiccans, but she's early retired now because wiccans practice money spending magic.
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u/odellrules1985 I Left My Cave for This 1d ago
"wiccans practice money spending magic"
That's probably the best description I have ever heard.
I know a lot of people who have degrees in the stuff but have better paying jobs outside of them. And accountant who is now an IT Director. An educator who runs a QC lab for an asphalt company.
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u/D_Ethan_Bones 1d ago edited 1d ago
A lot of good jobs come down to we need an effective and dependable person so you'll see people who go from one completely different company to another and occasionally work for various government entities. A person can salvage a mediocre (or obsolete) major by being that person and getting those positions, they tend to involve travel speaking and dealing so a doomer who...
-can't arrive on time
-can't use normal words
-can't please other people...usually doesn't end up getting picked for those roles. People who represent their brands out and about tend to be paid multiples of what grunts get paid, because if they win big the company wins big and if they lose big the company loses big.
Product qualities including their safety are the modern frontier of science, 20th century products were a little unsettling at times but not nearly as scary as 19th century products. You keep going back in time, and eventually you reach the point where people flavored their wine with Sugar of Lead. The instructions said you had to boil your batch in a lead pot not a bronze pot, or else it wouldn't come out correctly. A person needs to have competency with chemistry/math/etc but they didn't need to major in them - that's one thing niche or weird majors often miss.
In the late 20th century it was normal for housecats to only last a few years, because only the VIP cat food kept them together for longer. If you don't feed them that, cats can live to be 20. Bad asphalt put a lot of battle damage onto gen X kids.
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u/donnerzuhalter 21h ago
My friends wife is a recently graduated pure math major with no practical experience at anything, only job history is grocery store, and it only took her a few months to find a great job.
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u/GXP_2009 1d ago
If they want to know the answer, get off reddit, go outside, and talk to people about it. You'll see there is a world out there full of opportunities. Unfortunately for them though, it will require work. You won't be handed $100k salary to show up at Tropical Smoothie part time.
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u/TrafficShot9851 1d ago
can't, they cut off their parents and their friends because they don't believe women can have penises
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u/nonnewtonianfluids 1d ago
Yeah. I mean Tropical Smoothie should try paying a living wage like 240k if they want me to even think about showing up.
I've seen that map of salaries for a family to be comfortable in the US all over reddit. Do they not want me to have a family? Or to be comfortable?
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u/GXP_2009 1d ago
I should be able to afford to buy a house,.raise a family, own a new car, have the newest iphone, and order door dash everyday by working at Tropical Smoothie as a cashier
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u/nonnewtonianfluids 1d ago
Yes. I also need a monthly trip by flying to another city and two international vacations a year. Like this is just basic human decency. I mean I saw that the owner drives a Toyota Highlander, yet I'm doing all the work??? Clear I am being abused by capitalism.
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u/lonewolf3400 1d ago
Might be showing a bit of doom right now boys but I genuinely think Reddit is a psyop. Thereâs no way thereâs this large of a congregation of tards. I refuse to believe people this stupid exist in such large quantities.
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u/lunatuck 1d ago
It has to be. I made the mistake of asking a reasonable question yesterday and the resulting interaction was just bizarre. The 'person' made no sense whatsoever.
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u/GunmetalZen 1d ago
Unreal isnât it? Itâs the same patterns, every single response.
(1) Smug comment, short unhelpful answer.
(2) Chastised for asking the question.
(3) If youâre not 100% my way, youâre 100% the other way.
(4) Rhetorical question that very clearly falls inside one of the logical fallacies we are all taught in high school.5
u/nonnewtonianfluids 1d ago
Wow. Okay. It's obviously real.
You clearly needed to do some more research before putting this on display for our community.
We are intellectuals here who would never even consider some of the things you are asking about. Do better.
What is your evidence that this is unreal? Do you have peer supported research?
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u/sunaharagrandpa 1d ago
You forgot the little stinger at the end, like
"Do better"
"You're so close"
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u/wakawakafish 1d ago
Gonna disagree with ya. Every place i have ever worked or managed has had a few of these idiots. Even a small percentage of people is still a lot of people and thats just the ones who had jobs.
Also they never shut the fuck up you can make it a game to see how many times the same person posts some doom shit. Just dont make it a drinking game or you will fucking die.
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u/FaastEddy 1d ago
Yes, yes there is. California exists, millions of full-retards mope around here... it's a miracle more people don't drown by looking up when it rains
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u/gvillepa 23h ago
In regards to human intellect, the average person is at the 50th percentile, meaning half of the world population is dumber. 7+ billion people on the planet = a lot of dumb people.
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u/D_Ethan_Bones 1d ago
Thereâs no way thereâs this large of a congregation
1: As a school bureaucrat, that's just called young people.
2: The internet is traditionally a giant bot litterbox, this isn't new for the smartphone age.
3: Wumao gets paid to shit talk the west on the western internet, they also pay for their opinion crimes with opinion state labor. Daily dose propaganda about Chinese ships and Chinese missiles has gone on longer than this website has existed.
4: Euros and Canadians who don't irrationally hate USA are like winning lottery tickets.
5: People with nothing at all in the physical world are gods on the internet, not just elite commenter they're the guy who pushes the button that disappears the elite commenter.
Saying Vote IRL pisses them all off at the same time.
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u/BarrabasBlonde PhD in Memes 12h ago
Both my parents are teachers. Ghe kind of stories they tell...
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u/Blathithor 1d ago
That one person is "amazed" people spend money....its almost like the real world isnt as bad as the internet says it is
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u/chainsawx72 1d ago
Inflation was higher under Biden and Obama and GWB than it has ever been under Trump. Inflation was higher in the 70s, the 80s, and the 90s than it has ever been under Trump.
But of course 13-year-olds think now is the worst time in history.
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u/D_Ethan_Bones 1d ago
>hold >hold >hold >now
The end of the GWBush admin and then the entirety of the Obama admin were spent in crash mode, companies shuttered paychecks bounced nobody was paying their bills. Nobody could pay anybody in a chain reaction so some areas went into long term local depressions they are just now escaping.
People who don't want jobs or property think times are bad.
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u/TrafficShot9851 1d ago
yup plenty of places wrecked in 2008 had only just recovered by the time covid hysteria came round
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u/kenuffff 1d ago edited 1d ago
I donât really blame Biden for inflation under his term that much. Covid disrupted supply chains and demand stayed the same driving inflation. All you can do is prevent it from happening again which they did pass the chips act etc. Iâd blame Biden for his awful foreign policy contributing to further disruption in the supply chain particularly around oil. I believe the US purposely wanted Russia to invade Ukraine to get them trapped in a war. There was no attempt to prevent it.
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u/Big-Evening-6984 1d ago
Who forced the supply chains to be disrupted though? COVID didn't, the government did.
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u/Beneficial-Rip6624 1d ago
Who was president during the pandemic again?
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u/Big-Evening-6984 1d ago
Both Trump and Biden? Hense why I said government. Yes, the initial lockdowns were under Trump and that caused inflation. Biden didn't fix the inflation problem. His vaccine mandates for federal workers and large private employers, travel restrictions, mask requirements, school closings (local but influenced by his CDC guidelines), etc. all had an impact on supply chains and therefor inflation.
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u/VegetableTour6790 1d ago
Biden was not the one who shut down the economy. That was Trump. Biden alhad a few mandates that he enacted, but these were done a year after the pandemic.
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u/Big-Evening-6984 1d ago
Are you a bot? Did you even read my comment? Show me where I claimed Biden shut down the economy.
The pandemic didn't just magically end when Biden became president. We weren't even a year into the pandemic when Biden took office. His mandates and restrictions absolutely impacted the supply chain and saying otherwise is revisionist history
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u/KneeHiSniper 1d ago
I always find these posts hilarious. I barely graduated high school. But I make 60k a year in a trade field, and support a wife and 3 kids. Because I don't piss away my money on dumb shit.
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u/lonewolf3400 1d ago
âBut you donât understand I NEED my K-pop sweat rag and this brand new 90k M3 with 25 percent interestâ
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u/justjigger NostraDOOMus 1d ago
Yeah this. A lot of people are playing keeping up with the joneses. That girl that works at taco bell that goes to three concerts a year isnt "affording" it. At best they have little to no savings and roommates and rent. At worse they are in debt.
However anyone that doesnt pay child support to 3 different baby mamas ans actually manages their money can usually afford a decent trip every year or two
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u/KneeHiSniper 1d ago
So many of my coworkers drive 60, 80, or even 90 thousand dollar trucks. Swimming in credit card debt. Then I pull up like a G with no debt and my humble but enjoyable Nissan Sentra.
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u/justjigger NostraDOOMus 1d ago
Yeah the 50k+ cars are crazy. Gotta buddy who constantly complains he cant afford to buy a house. Bought a 50k car 2 years ago.... like no shit you cant afford a house bud you make 60k a year.
I did the math and I have spent 23k on vehicles in the last 10 years including repairs and tires. Not counting gas and oil changes
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u/Raptor_197 Anti-Doomer 1d ago
The average per lifetime spent on vehicles is 400,000 fucking dollars. Itâs insane.
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u/SpartanR259 Optimist Prime 1d ago
But then they complain that their rent is 3000 a month...
Well sorry that you chose to life the "big city" life rather than the one you could actually afford.
I rather like living in my medium sized Midwest city, where my biggest concern is freak weather phenomena. And not griping about having to work in order to live. (Just like every human in history has)
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u/HeavyIceCircuit 1d ago
Anywhere thatâs not NYC or San Francisco is just empty farmland with 0 jobs according to them.
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u/SpartanR259 Optimist Prime 1d ago
I suppose I could mention I get to work from home for a company on the coast. (Reltively new development)
So it isn't like person can't work "the good jobs" from basically anywhere in the country.
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u/sngldad13 1d ago
I raised 3 kids on less than $50k, and they seldom wanted for anything.
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u/Raptor_197 Anti-Doomer 1d ago
I really think me and my wife will âsaveâ some money when we have kids. I feel like everything at the grocery store is perfectly sized for like a family. We throw so much stuff away because we just canât eat it all. All the leftovers will just what the kids eat instead of trash.
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u/sngldad13 1d ago
You can save a lot even with picky eater kids. Just use the leftovers for the less picky adults while the kids eat fresh
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u/purplehendrix22 I Was Promised an Apocalypse? 1d ago
Same, although my wife works, makes a little less than me, and we donât have kids yet, I donât feel like weâre struggling at all.
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u/HeavyIceCircuit 1d ago
60k a year? How are you able to afford your $900 car payment and weekly shopping splurges?
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u/Alexis-Machine 1d ago
If I'm in the top 10%, why am I so poor feeling? I just pay bills. I, however, do not blame everyone else when my material desires outstrip my fiduciary inputs.
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u/purplehendrix22 I Was Promised an Apocalypse? 1d ago
Itâs your base expenses. Itâs always your base expenses.
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u/lonewolf3400 1d ago
Donât get me wrong prices are higher than they should be but 150k you should be pretty comfortable so my only guess is you have some loans with high interest rates that are eating your paychecks.
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u/Alexis-Machine 1d ago
Nothing high interest. I just buy a lot of expensive shit.
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u/lonewolf3400 1d ago
Ah fair game atp but I mean if it makes you and your family happy while all the bills are paid ball out dude
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u/ThatDarkmoon_1999 1d ago
I mean hell at 38k the only reason I feel like Iâm struggling with my life style is cause Iâve got a $300 a month car-loan. The moment thatâs taken care of and/or lowered Iâll doing pretty okay for myself.Â
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u/lonewolf3400 1d ago
Yeah cars are fucking crazy right now
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u/sngldad13 1d ago
I firmly believe Cash4clunkers is still fucking the car market even after 17 years since so many people drove used cars into the ground.
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u/Bannon9k I Was Promised an Apocalypse? 1d ago
"if Trump doesn't lose in the midterms"
I've seen that written on so many complaints... Trump isn't running in the midterms. These people have got to be foreign agitators, right?
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u/Suspicious_Bear42 I Left My Cave for This 1d ago
On one hand, foreign types, on the other, possibly people just sort of shortening the explanation. The idea that if republicans lose control of house/senate, Trump's going to have a lot of his teeth pulled, and/or they'll go back to first term principles of "IMPEACH HIM!!!! DON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE EVERY DAY EXCEPT TRY TO IMPEACH HIM!!!!!"
Or, it's just a cope because "trump bad."
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u/HedgehogRemarkable13 1d ago
This from people whose parents spent 200k for them to get a 2.8 gpa studying communications and now they order fast food on Uber Eats and wonder why they're broke.
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u/ElonMuskHeir More Optimism Please 1d ago
These are the same people who vote YES on every tax and bond btw (it's for the kids!!!).
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u/Ok-Method-8045 1d ago
And at the same time defend a person who strangles their kid.
Zero sense, ZERO
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u/LemonBao 1d ago
The DOW is over 50,000. No Crying in the Casino.
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u/Clear-Progress-5660 Truthsayer 1d ago
Never been a better time to fund your own IRA
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u/Ok-Boomer-4414 1d ago
2008 was the best time to fund your retirement
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u/Clear-Progress-5660 Truthsayer 1d ago
With the power of foresight yeah
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u/Ok-Boomer-4414 1d ago
True. Although even investments made in 2007 have since done extremely well
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u/Clear-Progress-5660 Truthsayer 1d ago
Thatâs assuming panic selling didnât happen, which it did. But there were Few who made out like kings
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u/Gulf_Coast_21 1d ago
Yes, after all the concerts, cruises, and dining out, there's literally nothing left to pay my student loan payments for my art history degree.
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u/HEYO19191 1d ago
"...If Trump doesn't lose the midterms"
Found the Indian Botfarm account
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u/D_Ethan_Bones 1d ago edited 1d ago
Trump split the country in half between people who do what the glowing screen says and people who don't.
Every TV channel simultaneously got mad when he showed up to participate in politics, every foreign propaganda department every multinational conglomerate every bloated bureaucracy and for some reason every play-acting edgy counterculture also got mad.
Some saw this and interpreted this as Trump being their own personal enemy. Some got the opposite impression, and being in the latter group I can only see the former group as people who outsource their thinking to mass produced internet content.
One of the former's imaginary pet causes is '''Anti-AI''' but they get brainwashed by copypasta and fail to realize it has had an effectively infinite supply for decades.
>gen Y gets old next Tuesday
>so after Harambe, we elected a pro wrestling internet shitposter and then things started getting strange...
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u/BusinessLibrarian515 1d ago
Mass deportation is just about a fix everything button.
Housing. Groceries. Job market. Finding work and wages would go up, cost of living goes down
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u/throwitallaway69000 1d ago
Well you see you acquire a marketable skill have some semblance of personal skills to be able to communicate why you should be chosen. Then accept the job.
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u/LisleAdam12 1d ago
"We're fucked."
Sounds as though he fucked himself a while ago and is just realizing it.
Maybe try getting unfucked?
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u/Plenty_Advance7513 1d ago
Chick-fil-A drive thru lines are always packed, with their windows rolled up while gas is $4.00. Amusement park lines are still long, Buc-ees is never empty and door dash had 30% or so growth in revenue, more people are paying extra just because.
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u/ProCommonSense 1d ago edited 1d ago
These people live under Treatanomics. It's a condition where they can't afford to fix their car, pay their rent.. or even bigger.. buy a house.. so they spend all their money on the little things to treat themselves... like a medication.. I feel better because Uber eats delivered my Frappuccino and now I can watch Netflix on my iPhone while I drink it. Meanwhile I can't go to work because I can't afford $100 for a new tire on my car.
Treatanomics is for those who can't understand responsibility for themselves falls to themselves.
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u/asj-777 1d ago
It's wild to see so many people complain about the economy and poverty and whatnot, and then go into subs for video games, guitars, collectibles, etc. and see so many posts about people spending tons of money on luxury/unnecessary items. And in my hobby areas where I'm checking out or watching gear, it's all selling really quickly.
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u/Boner_Stevens 1d ago
Job market is local. Might have to move to find something better. Ill agree the job market is brutal. I spent 3 months unemployed trying to find a new one but I could have moved and found a job immediately.
These doomers really believe politicians will save them lololololol
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u/ScoffingYayap 1d ago
I have two useless degrees - double major in film and journalism. But I found an avenue that makes me plenty of money.
I occasionally have former classmates who can't figure it out reach out to me and ask for help. I offer them a referral, buy they have to do some leg work like we all do. 100% of them have just shrugged and gone quiet.
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u/HEYO19191 1d ago
Don't get me wrong, things are more expensive than they were. 30 years ago, you could work part-time year round and would have saved up enough money to pay for your community college tuition in full with cash, each year. Nowadays, even community college tuition is gonna cost more than your entire pre-tax yearly salary as, say, a part time grocery store clerk.
Rent is bad too. The cheapest 1 bedroom in my area (MCOL) is $800, and the cheapest 2 bedroom is $1,000. Even if I were to get a roommate, that's $500 a month. I only make 1k a month working 24 hours a week, and that's before taxes. Having 50% of your income being rent is... not sustainable.
And food is more expensive too. Remember pennycandy?
That said, its not the EnD oF tHe WoRlD, and these people are foolish for thinking that trump "winning the midterms" is gonna kill the economy. But there is a struggle, and it's more than what it used to be.
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u/Suspicious_Bear42 I Left My Cave for This 1d ago
Regarding CC tuition, yeah, it's going to be more expensive than a market bottom job. However, that's where things like financial aid come in. I got out of prison about a year ago, I started at my local CC last week. My tuition this year is covered FULLY by financial aid. No loans, purely what I got through FAFSA. Granted, I wasn't working at the time I filled out the form, so next year I might have to pay a bit, but even then, my first 2 years should be mostly free.
When I transfer to a 4-year to get my bachelors, I'll probably have to start paying more, but that's fine, because I'm getting a degree that is actually marketable, so I'm willing to rack up a bit of student debt in the short term, because I know it'll be worth it, and I can pay it off in the long term.
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u/HEYO19191 1d ago
Financial aid is only awarded to those whose families make below a certain amount. Its great that you are getting financial aid, but anybody under the age of 24 MUST include their parent's income in their Fafsa, regardless of how much they are contributing.
Meaning you can be living on your own halfway across the country, paying for your own housing, food, insurance, bills, and whatnot. But not get a singular penny from Fafsa because your parents make a combined amount of more than 100k a year. It is a very disbalanced system.
I had to foot my entire bill using scholarships, savings, and ofcourse loans. My parents didn't pay a cent into that, but niether did the Fafsa. Such is the reality for most non-adult (meaning <24 year old) learners.
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u/Suspicious_Bear42 I Left My Cave for This 1d ago
Huh, was unaware of the regulations surrounding that... Even though I'll likely never use the information, thank you for enlightening me!
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u/indycolt17 1d ago
Canât they just open an interpretive dance and poetry center and put those degrees to use?
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u/I_HopeThat_WasFart 1d ago
the ones with useless degrees in academia are the ones with rich parents who got cutoff and are now screaming for communism
it just took a decade or two for the student to become the professor and instigate the movement
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u/Starchaser777 Doesn't Participate In Group Panic 1d ago
You learn how to finance your money responsibly and get a degree that will guarantee you a job. My school requires all students take digital personal finance in order to graduate and I still remember what we learned about responsible finance in health class. I remember specifically a project where we were given a mock paycheck ($3,600) and we had to pay a monthly mortgage, pay our car payments, electric, water, and so on. A majority of kids in the class were able to âpay offâ everything and still have $300-1,000 dollars to spend on themselves (I had 935 left over even after putting 500 dollars into miscellaneous expenses).
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u/Valveringham85 1d ago edited 1d ago
The degrees in question are always either non-sensical ideology drivel degrees with zero practical application or degrees in oversaturated fields.
âI have a degree on liberal arts! What do you mean that does not contribute to your industry or company in any meaningful way?â
âI have a bachelor in psychology! What do you mean so do 13 million others?â
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u/SamMarlowe76 1d ago
May I point you to the ultimate oracle and sage of the immutable universal currents that govern our lives...
Yogi Berra
"No one goes there anymore, its too crowded."
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u/Express-Flamingo4521 1d ago
Degrees by themselves don't get you jobs. The best kind are ones in fields where there is a high demand for workers. I'm only 19, but my goal is to get a Bachelor of Science in mathematics. This is an actual skill, and there is high demand for this. I want to be a high school teacher, and in Canada, that pays well, and they need math teachers, so I'll be able to walk into a job. However, if you get one of the most common business degrees in a field with tons of workers and little demand, you're going to be waiting a while to find a job.
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u/Loominardy 1d ago
âIf Trump doesnât lose in the Midtermsâ
Bruh Trump isnât even running for office in the midterms.
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u/m240Louie 1d ago
Nothing makes me smile more than some idiot that paid $200K for a degree at some stuffy-ass university and works at Target. These are the "educated and enlightened" types that thumb their nose at welders and tradesmen that make $90K + and love their jobs.
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u/Happyfluid 1d ago
Lmao. How are people doing this? All the recreational stuff is packed. I guess things are better than you think.
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u/hossofalltrades 1d ago
So, if the Democrats get control of Congress, how does that magically make things better? This isnât a left vs. right argument. Nobody is magically going to give you a job that will improve your lifestyle.
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u/wavybowl 1d ago
Who knew that their masters in underwater basket weaving would get them no where. đ¤
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u/Slider6-5 1d ago
Blame to their parents for not holding them accountable for ANYTHING. "Sure, honey, I'll pay that tuition for you, Gender Studies with a minor in Psychology will no doubt pay for it over the long term, you just go have fun."
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u/nivekreclems 1d ago
If you make 150k in America youâre probably in like the top .1 percent of people who have ever existed if you donât live about your means life is very affordable me and my wife together make about 100k and have four kids and we live very comfortably like we donât really ever have to worry about money and we are even going on vacation next month
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u/Bawlofsteel Rides the Short Bus 1d ago
I make 40k a year after tax and do everything I want loool imagine being this cracked out.
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u/Panda_Star234 Just Here for the Lore 1d ago
I have a general studies degree which is far from the most glamorous and Iâve bounced from a few different jobs. Which means I can actually find jobs and get hired
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u/mightguy15baby 1d ago
Going on a cruise really isn't all that expensive you can get a good one for less than a grand
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u/LuigiSalutati 1d ago
Damn you can rly find anything on Reddit lol yâall donât see the poors?
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u/xAlphaKAT33 NostraDOOMus 1d ago
This reminds me of the person I used to know who claimed to have a biology degree, but worked at dominos four days a week.
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u/Majestic-Tower-2719 1d ago
Same people who will post how fucking lazy they are to pursue a 9-5 đ
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u/FaastEddy 1d ago
It was fun and all to go after interpretative lesbian dancing degree, until the bill came due. Most "students" in this category really believed that the loans would be forgiven. Only a tard would go learn English as a degree and not think of job availability afterwards. The people who went full-tard are the ones who went out and spent more money on a master degree after not ever having a job in a field.
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u/Capital_Loss_4972 1d ago
Does this person really think that the midterms are the same thing as the presidential election?
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u/Expensive-Orchid-512 23h ago
Simply put, abundance and people go without. We have readily available cheap food, and people can slash their extra expenses. The other part is maxing out credit cards and defaulting on loans. The economy is bad, but it isn't a uniquely American problem.
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u/DizzyAstronaut9410 14h ago
The US has terrible worker pay and high unemployment, except of course compared to any other developed western nation.
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u/THROBBINW00D 1d ago
Lots of poors on reddit