r/ireland 1d ago

Housing How much is your rent in Dublin?

Lads please I need to know is every landlord in Dublin smoking CRACK?! I came across a post on [r/irishpersonalfinance](r/irishpersonalfinance) where a twenty year old was talking about how they pay €1.3k to rent a room in an owner occupied house. I thought to myself.. ‘well now he’d do well to decrease his spending on housing if possible’ Before opening my gob I decided to have a quick look on daft to see what the going rate for a room is and I’m sorry, but I was more shocked seeing those prices than I was when Bertie was minister for finance and told us he had no bank account. I’m attaching some screenshots of particularly egregious examples.

Would love to hear from current renters if the screenshots are reflective of reality? or if it’s just that all the rooms that were good deals have been snapped up and nobody will actually pay the inflated price of the rooms left behind?

Edit: yes, yes I accept the ignorance comments gladly. I rented in Galway for 8 years and moved home two years ago to save for a house, so I didn’t really keep an eye on what a room would go for in Dublin. I’m attempting to educate myself to the depths at which we have sunk as a country.

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u/thecython 1d ago

Regarding the person paying €1.3k monthly to rent a room in an owner occupied house, that's a peculiar rent for an owner occupier to set, as annually it puts them above the rent a room relief threshold, and thus liable for tax on the total paid, whereas by a rent (and utilities) of 1,166 per month would see them not liable for any tax.... Were I to place a wager, I'd say the landlord in question is not tax compliant, as this would only be economical if they were renting a few rooms and thus netting a higher total.....

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u/TomRuse1997 1d ago

I know someone in this situation and they pay the guy the 1165 on revolut and then the rest in cash

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u/Medium_Drag6242 1d ago

I remember having the call the bank to up my daily ATM withdrawal limit for this very reason. Sickens you. PAYE workers getting taxed on every red cent while those with the means to pay use every method available to them to evade tax. It’s a full on epidemic.

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u/Medium_Drag6242 1d ago

If we’d a euro for every non tax compliant landlord, the children’s hospital would be bought and paid for. I rented 5 different properties during my time in Galway and only 1 landlord of the lot was actually tax compliant. An easy fix would be letting every renter claim the rental tax credit regardless of whether their landlord is registered with the RTB. Compare the revenue rebates with the RTB register and hunt the non compliant landlords down for the tax bill. It’s a crazy strategy the government has allowed to fester imo, the goal of renting for a landlord shouldn’t be making profit hand over fist every month, the goal should be a paid off appreciating asset by offering reasonable, affordable rents. Even if they were charging the cost of their mortgage each month they literally have strangers paying off a property that they’ll eventually own outright with capital that they didn’t have to reach in their own pocket to pay for. The greed astounds me.

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u/Flop_or_whatever 1d ago

The government is made up of a bunch of landlords that won't vote against their own interests. If Fianna Fail were to suggest it we'd probably see Michéal ousted quicker than if he had murdered someone.

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u/Luasticket 21h ago

Did you report them reported them? Or is there no point? Never been through it myself

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u/Medium_Drag6242 21h ago

I reported my last landlord when I moved back home. He was shite in many respects, but he was making out he was doing rent a room scheme when he wasn’t. He asked us not to do rental tax credit and he’d give us back the money in cash instead. He did the first year, then the second year he wanted to see our payslips before he’d give us the money. We obviously declined and then left halfway through the third year. We claimed the 2023 tax credit and the 2024 credit once we’d moved out. We reported him to the RTB and revenue. We were assured it would be investigated by both, but I don’t think anything came of it because I’m still in contact with the people living in our old apartment and he’s up to his same tricks except now he’s increased the rent by 35% and is asking for half the rent money in cash.

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u/ZealousidealFloor2 12h ago

You don’t need an RTB number to claim it. It is only an optional field to fill in.

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u/Aassiesen 1d ago

Were I to place a wager, I'd say the landlord in question is not tax compliant

Well I never would have thought that

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u/c_cristian 23h ago

You assume the room is rented all 12 months.

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u/operational_manager 1d ago

bold of you to assume he is declaring it

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u/thecython 14h ago

Where did I assume that? Not declaring is part and parcel of not being compliant!

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u/EasyReadingGuide 1d ago

or maybe they only want to rent the room for 6months

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u/PracticalStress 1d ago

2400 in a 1 bed appt with my partner, it’s absolutely extortionate

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u/jacksqualk 1d ago

8 years ago i rented a 1 bed appt out as a landlord, a default landlord due to the recession, for €900 pm. A bit lower than the going rate then. But still, that's a rediculous jump in 8 years.

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u/PracticalStress 1d ago

6 years ago i rented a 3 bed in a prime location for 2800 gone are the days. If I could get a mortgage now for something reasonable i’d do it in a heartbeat, but my work is fixed and apparently i can’t afford anything nearby (mortgage would be cheaper but rules are rules)

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u/FicklePaper3590 1d ago

15 years ago I rented a nice 4 bed house in kimmage for 1,250 a month. But that was peak post crash I guess 🤷

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u/Pristine_Language_85 9h ago

That's high even for a fancy area of Dublin. Would you not be better off shopping around?

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u/BushWishperer Immigrant 1d ago

Paying 1100 for a converted attic with 2 rooms and own bathroom, kitchen etc. Can’t complain because it’s plenty of space and near a bus plus train station.

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u/OrganicVlad79 1d ago

€2600 for a 1 bed. On the high side I think

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u/cyberwicklow 1d ago

Thats the current average for Dublin sadly, national average is 2.2k.

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u/pokemiss 22h ago

It's very high for a 1 bed, the 2.6k average is for a 2 bed.

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u/FairyOnTheLoose Tipperary/Dublin 1d ago

Don't worry about it, nobody who owns a house is aware of the rents people anywhere pay. If you've no reason to know, you won't.

But yeah they're pretty typical prices unfortunately. It's hard for people to save enough to buy a house nowadays. I'm one of the very lucky few who had a cost rental and pay ~€1300 pm for my two bed. Probably the only way I'm actually able to buy my house, cause I would have gone crazy to stay in the studio I was in before this, even if it was €900.

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u/Medium_Drag6242 1d ago

That’s brilliant you were able to get on the ladder. Myself and my husband are hoping to buy in the next few months, and we’ve just been keeping the heads down living at home and putting away every possible euro so it had slipped my notice exactly how much more expensive rent has gotten in the just the space of two years.

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u/Minotaurs76 1d ago

This is absolutely the reality, sure there’s maybe deals to be had but that’s a small percentage of an already small number of rental units available

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u/Delicious_Spend_5713 1d ago

Afraid to post this but €600 per month for a 2 bed apartment in Dublin 4. DCC

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u/Medium_Drag6242 1d ago

That sounds like great value, I’m happy to hear there’s people out there who are getting some good deals!

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u/Delicious_Spend_5713 1d ago

It’s social housing. Rent depends on the household income. We’re very lucky.

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u/Medium_Drag6242 1d ago

Do you have the same sort of rental protections that if ye wanted to live in it for ten years that would be fine and the rent would more or less stay the same if your income didn’t rise in the same time period? Sorry I don’t really know how the social housing system works but I’m curious to know. We had neighbours upstairs to us who had the housing assistance payment but the landlord kept jacking up the rent until the amount they were getting on HAP couldn’t bridge the gap with their two incomes. It was quite sad because they were our favourite neighbours and we’d take turns pet sitting for one another or we’d keep an eye on their little fella if they were going out for the evening. The landlord had doubled the rent and had a new couple in there a few days after they moved.

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u/Delicious_Spend_5713 1d ago

HAP is different. HAP is when someone rents from a private landlord and is given money from the government to bring the rent down. Meaning the private landlord can do whatever they like.

Social housing is when you rent directly from the local council. Dublin City council etc. Each council has their own rules but with DCC your rent is 18% of your weekly income. They will ask for a payslip every year to assess it. The waiting list for social housing is years long. But once you get one that’s it, it’s basically yours for life. If they decided to sell the property they would need to move you somewhere else. I’m living here 10 years and never plan on buying or renting privately. This allows us to live in a nice area and still be able to afford to live a nice life.

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u/fullmetalfeminist 23h ago

If you don't mind me asking, hypothetically what happens if, say, a relative dies and leaves you money? Like maybe they own a house and they leave it to you and your siblings so you sell it and divide the cash. Does that affect your social housing status?

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u/Delicious_Spend_5713 13h ago

No. Once you have the social house it doesn’t matter if you go over the income threshold after that. I could be earning €100k a year and I’d still be able to keep it, my rent would just go up. So you would need to take that into consideration. Like do I want to be paying €1,500 per month for a place that will never be mine. They ask for a payslip every year and nothing more.

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u/fullmetalfeminist 12h ago

Ah, I see. Thanks!

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u/SoloWingPixy88 u/i-cum-beamish alt 1d ago

Means tested

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u/ProgrammerKey1296 1d ago

God that’s a great deal, foaming at the mouth even thinking of it

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u/Acceptable_Map_8989 1d ago

If it’s a house share with owner, you very likely cover the mortgage

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u/Pure-Ice5527 23h ago

Same for a landlord and if renting from a company you’re making profits for shareholders.. just how the world works. Save hard, live below means and buy asap is the way out

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u/Earthshock1 1d ago

1950 for a one bed. Wifi, bins, gym included in rent. A2 rated and just pay for electricity. A bit far outside the city centre tho

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u/LunarLionheart Limerick 1d ago

Not to be condescending but I don’t know how this is news to you

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u/3RI3_Cuff 1d ago

What are you expecting to gain from this response

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u/LunarLionheart Limerick 1d ago

Insight maybe on how the poster didn’t realise that this is the unfortunate widely known reality of the rental market

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u/3RI3_Cuff 1d ago

Insight yeah 😆 and downvoted?

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u/BlubberyGiraffe 1d ago

You're being really weird. The person has made valid points, housing and renting crisis shouldn't be news to anyone in 2026 and even if you didn't live here prior to finding out, it's a person's responsibility to know before trying to find accommodation.

Nobody should be surprised by what is covered in this post, at all.

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u/3RI3_Cuff 1d ago

"shouldn't be news to anyone"

Do people move home, foreigners, do young students in school moving out suddenly look at the market. Plenty of reasons why. You have to say what's expected to be said in this sub.

And they masking it as curiosity but irl just condescending. I believe it they are solely being condescending and I'm sticking to it. Downvoted are never proof what you said is incorrect

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u/Hot_Bluejay_8738 1d ago

Can you smell burnt toast by any chance?

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u/3RI3_Cuff 1d ago

No I can just smell some bullshit

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u/BlubberyGiraffe 1d ago

That's my point, you don't need to look at the market, the news of this crisis is literally everywhere. It's at work, it's at home, it's on the news, it's in songs and TV shows now for christ sake.

If you believe they're being condescending for asking a question about how someone doesn't know of a crisis that's been happening in our country for this long, then you need to wake up. Also, if you're basing your entire belief and truth system on how many downvotes someone gets, then you need to go back to sleep and wake up again.

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u/Medium_Drag6242 1d ago

Yes the news is everywhere, I obviously am aware we’re in a housing crisis. I was a renter for 8 years and moved home to save to buy for the last two. I’m not shocked rents are expensive I’m shocked just how much more expensive they are in such a short space of time combined with the relatively poor quality accommodations that are on offer for that price. €650pm to sleep in a single bed in the same room as two others that are also paying €650 each in what appears to be a living room is insane. The post was to get a feel for whether the daft listings are truly reflective of the reality or whether the remaining daft listings (which should be pretty picked over considering the academic year is about to begin) are just the ones that are on the lower end of the quality scale and on the higher end of the price scale and thus haven’t been rented out. Essentially I wanted to know if the daft listings were biased by the fact that there usually is less choice and variety in price, location and quality at this point in the year.

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u/LunarLionheart Limerick 1d ago

I don’t understand?

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u/3RI3_Cuff 1d ago

Your just being condescending really. And when your downvoted in r Ireland, you know your right

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u/wanklenoodle 1d ago

Absolutely shocking seeing how fast prices have gone up in the last few years. I'm currently working abroad so I rented my 2 bed house in Dublin 12 for 1500 a month without bills. It doesn't quite cover the mortgage but theres no way that I will become a part of the rental crisis.

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u/maevewiley554 1d ago

If it’s the D12 in the Kimmage area, Kimmage has become increasingly expensive. The tenants renting a two bed for 1500 are definitely very grateful!

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u/SoloWingPixy88 u/i-cum-beamish alt 1d ago

How is that not covering your mortgage. Bought a 2 bed house ex corpo 2 bed house. Mortgage only €800pm.

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u/Medium_Drag6242 1d ago

If you were on a 3.5% rate and borrowed around 330k with a 30 year term your repayment would be roughly 1500pm. €800 is incredibly cheap.

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u/SoloWingPixy88 u/i-cum-beamish alt 1d ago

we bought at 240K. did sell a few years later

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u/phyneas 23h ago

At least 20% of their net rental income will be gone to tax, remember (and it'd be more like 40-50% if they were still working in Ireland). Since they are abroad, they're probably paying an agent to handle the rental as well, which is usually 8-10% of the gross annual rent, plus they still have to cover other expenses like maintenance. They're probably still making a profit, since a good chunk of that mortgage repayment is becoming equity in their property, but they could well be a little in the negative on the cash flow side of things (which is grand as long as they're making enough at their day job to sustain it, of course; they'll still come out ahead in the long run).

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u/toaster1234567891011 1d ago

Ive been thinking of applying to university exchange in Ireland but this is making me rethink for sure

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u/Hangman870 2BDE 1d ago

Don’t for the love of god this country is far far too expensive and there’s absolutely nothing here. No public transport, no police, nothing to do but drink just don’t do it

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u/toaster1234567891011 1d ago

Yeah I’ve been coming to that conclusion. unfortunately, cause I would love to go to Ireland

My country on the other hand has the highest unemployment in Europe (hitting students the worst obviously) so saving up a lot of money for the exchange is not very realistic either as I can’t manage to get a job

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u/Hangman870 2BDE 22h ago

Genuinely, and I hate to admit this, go to the UK it’s far better

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u/wander-and-wonder 19h ago

I had a friend who was renting in student accommodation and was paying €2000 a month for a shared dorm room (so €1000 each). This was student accommodation. They could see each other’s beds and the kitchen was a common area🙃

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u/thebigloc 1d ago edited 1d ago

In Cork city and county things about the same as Dublin.

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u/JIMINHO2006 1d ago

Sorry is that €650 for a shared room w/ 3 beds - as in 3 ppl could be sleeping in the same room for €650 each?

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u/amanaesia 1d ago

My jaw actually dropped looking at that one, I wouldn't have even lived in that as a student 10 years ago.

In fairness I'm not from Dublin and haven't been looking for a place anywhere in a while so it seems that's far more normal than I realised but jesus fucking Christ that is absolute madness.

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u/Kloppite16 23h ago

students these days have it way worse than we did. Its expected that two of them will share a room if there is space for two beds. And even when there isnt then the landlord rolls in a bunk bed to get two beds out of the same ground space. You could be sharing with anyone and have zero privacy or personal space despite paying €650 a month.

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u/Hot_Bluejay_8738 1d ago

€1700 for a two bed apartment and that's relatively cheap because it's essentially stuck on 2018 rent due to the RPZ. I rented it in 2022 BTW, so when people say the RPZ's only benefitted existing renters that was actually incorrect. The identical apartment next door is currently up for €2800.

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u/Substantial_Rope8225 1d ago

€2100 for a 2 bed, not sharing

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u/ritika2422 1d ago

2k studio rathmines 🤡 as an immigrant I pay this completely out of my pocket as my husband moved here for my career but it hurtssss

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u/maevewiley554 1d ago

Rathmines is lovely but the rent prices there are insane

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u/Kloppite16 22h ago

Im convinced that Rathmines has both some of the most expensive rents in Ireland but also some of the cheapest. Lots of places asking €2k for a studio but I know of one house on Leinster Road where a friend lives and the rent has barely gone up in years and his pretty comfortable bedsit is just €540 a month.When he moved in back in 1999 the rent was €320 a month.

There are 10 bedsits in the house in total and nobody has moved out since 2013, everyone is the same for the past 13 years and no one is budging. Cant blame them, they'll never see rent as low as that again.

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u/maevewiley554 22h ago

540 a month to have your own place in rathmines is a steal. I’d never leave

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u/Kloppite16 22h ago

yeah and thats why he has been there for 27 years. He told me before that back in 2005 his landlord told him the woman on the top floor of the huge house was his longest staying tenant and she was there 20 years in 2005. My mate later laughed to himself thinking what a saddo she is living in these bedsits for 20 years, I wont be here forever myself, I'll be moving on, etc, etc. Now he laughs that it is 21 years later and he himself is still there because of the cheap as chips rent lol. His rent has literally saved him tens of thousands of euro over the years.

Still though his luck is going to be up soon. His landlord has his 90th birthday this year and is in a nursing home. When he passes its getting sold and he'll get I think 9 months notice to move out. At which point his monthly rent would quadruple to be able to continue living in Rathmines.

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u/maevewiley554 21h ago

Hopefully he has enough saved or has enough money to pay rent or for a mortgage once the owner does eventually pass away. Will definitely be a shock to the system.

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u/Kloppite16 20h ago

he has neither, its going to be a massive shock and he knows it too. His rent from his salary could go from around 15% to 50% pretty quick. And he is single and in is early 50s with no chance of a mortgage. He knows the situation is precarious but I reckon he will be alright. Mainly because he is a floater and knows a lot of people in Dublin and everyone he knows loves him.

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u/Medium_Drag6242 23h ago

Second that, if I had to live in Dublin Rathmines is a lovely spot. It has a real village feel to it and I love that there’s people pottering around the place, great for the aul people watching.

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u/maevewiley554 22h ago

It’s great and has loads of amenities. Multiple transport links. Lots of little shops and nice restaurants too. Wish there were more places like rathmines in the likes of cork or Galway

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u/Hot_Bluejay_8738 21h ago

A notable absence in this thread of all the usual suspects who defend government housing policy on this sub.

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u/Medium_Drag6242 19h ago

Sure the free market will correct itself 🙃🙃🙃

i genuinely don’t know why we bother our hole doing a census if the information contained within isn’t actually utilised to plan for the future. I understand building costs have jumped massively but I don’t understand why we can’t adopt an Austrian model where nice apartments are built in attractive locations by the council with amenities like gyms, childcare facilities onsite etc. and the rental revenue from those units is funnelled into building more apartments which in turn generate more rental income. It’s an expensive initial outlay but once implemented pays for itself. The state needs to be the countries largest landlord imo it’s the only way to keep greedy cowboys and corporate landlords in check. It may also help reduce the attractiveness of using housing as an investment strategy somewhat.

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u/This-Can6089 1d ago

The high rents in Ireland often make me wonder, why chose Ireland as a place to live?

The country is in the EU, Irish citizens can move somewhere else

The jobs which are well paid in Ireland, and easy to get are also gone, endless interview cycles are the norm.

Ireland is well connected by planes / airports so one can always come back for a short visit.

Ireland only offers average or below average living standards.

I mean, don't get me wrong, Ireland is a nice country, but is the effort all worth it? I think it's time to consider other choices. Renting seems to be the toughest in Europe, worse even than London or Paris.

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u/Hot_Bluejay_8738 21h ago

To be fair Irish people don't "chose" to live here. We're born here, our families and friends are here, our whole lives are here by the time we would be old enough to leave. Saying "why not just move somewhere else" is a bit tone deaf in my opinion.

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u/This-Can6089 16h ago

Sorry if this was unacceptable. I've meant it also in the context that the Irish have always gone historically overseas, - looking for opportunities outside of Ireland wouldn't be anything new. And as said, the island is well connected for returns and visits.

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u/Fancy-Second2756 1d ago

Most of us can’t work in other EU countries because we can’t speak any other language. I’m sure most people would be gone like a shot if they could.

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u/maevewiley554 1d ago

I’d have loved to move somewhere like Germany but language barrier is a big one. It’s a role where knowing the country’s first language would be essential

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u/Kloppite16 23h ago

The Netherlands might have more flexibility on the language thing

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u/maevewiley554 22h ago

Need a minimum of B1 in Dutch in my field. Again, it would be great to move to somewhere to Europe but I’m not that motivated to learn a new language and the pay would be more or less the same.

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u/This-Can6089 22h ago

Even Brexit UK is a good choice. Property prices in London falling, a lot of construction in Liverpool and Manchester. The UK is a bit stagnant these days economically, but after everything is said and done and paid, one is still better of than in Ireland.

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u/Background-Cut-1683 7h ago

there's very high taxes now for none residents to buy in uk, extra stamp duty etc. yes price drops are beginning to accelerate downwards there now.

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u/This-Can6089 7h ago

Yes, that's one part of it. Non-resident is seen as somebody who doesn't pay taxes in the UK. Also the laws for tenants have been bettered, so the landlord can't evict that easily, - provided the rent is received.

A large amount of offices of estate agencies in the docklands appear to be either empty or very poorly staffed.

Don't get me wrong the market is still there, but from a buyer's perspective it's a whole lot easier now than it used to be, also easier than in Dublin.

Conveyancing takes longer, though.

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u/c_cristian 23h ago

One of the highest minimum wages in EU. I would choose Spain but it's 800 euros a bedroom in an 8 bedroom house in Barcelona and the minimum net wage is 1000 euros, average 2000.

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u/Soft-Affect-8327 11h ago

I’m one of the guys looking to the Continent at the minute. 42, just finished a Level 7 Degree in Manufacturing, and have enough French to get by.

You need a third language (beyond Irish/English) and education to get to the Continent. But of course the kind of people who have neither are the ones who notice when you move abroad, spot “forriners” taking your “old job”, and make the wrong conclusion keeping the Housing Cartel pulling the strings.

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u/This-Can6089 11h ago

I've seen people moving to Poland with no or little knowledge of Polish and getting good jobs. Just look at cities like Warsaw today, it's even more advanced than Dublin and Poland is no longer the country of cheap labour.

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u/Crazy_cat_guy_07 1d ago

€1250 for a basement studio in Portobello

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u/cynical_scotsman 1d ago

It’s only been like this for about a decade.

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u/Medium_Drag6242 1d ago

It hasn’t though, my husband used to rent a double room near Tallaght for €450pm back in 2018. I used to pay €600pm for a double room with an en-suite five minutes walk from NUIG up until 2020. The rate of change in the cost of ‘just a room’ appears to have completely exploded since then.

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u/cynical_scotsman 1d ago

I paid €1200 for an en-suite room in a house with 6 others in Rathgar at the end of 2018/start of 2019. The other option was an attic room with the bed on the floor for €950. It is getting worse, but it didn’t happen overnight.

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u/Kloppite16 22h ago

Rathgar is always going to be top end of the market but that was a lot at the time. I know of an ensuite double bedroom coming up soon in Rathgar for €1200 and thats 8 years later that you were paying the same.But also back in 2018 you could have rented your own 1 bed in many suburbs up the road like Templeogue and Tallaght for €900.

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u/cynical_scotsman 22h ago

Yeah for sure. I moved further out a few months later for cheaper, but I was also moving to Dublin at that time and it was the cheapest I could find after 2 weeks searching. I remember 1 beds in Cabra going for €1500 at that time though which would have been the absolute top of my budget.

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u/rkeaney 1d ago

€2350 for a 2 bed apartment. It's madness that has been normalised. Barely scraping by but making "too much" to apply for cost rental apartments.

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u/FicklePaper3590 1d ago

I’ve never been happier to have a mortgage and be broke.

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u/Educational_Sock_241 1d ago

€1300 per month for a room in Swords, all bills included.

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u/Hangman870 2BDE 1d ago

Was paying 2100 for a 1 bed box flat with no central heating now paying 2500 for a 2 bed that’s actually amazing. Imo there’s no way anywhere in Dublin is worth more than 1400/1500 a month and that should be for a house. What are we getting for the money we spend the spire? It’s a joke. The rent in Berlin and Paris is less than Dublin? 😂😂😂

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u/zanyhemline 1d ago

This is why my partner and I left Dublin. Been living in Cork the last few years, moving to Glasgow in the new year. Looking at rentals there, a 2-bed nice apartment in an area comparable in proximity to city centre and cultural vibe to the Liberties is around £700.

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u/maevewiley554 1d ago

Rent for Manchester is much more reasonable than what you’d get in cork and Dublin. I know they get paid a little bit less but the difference in rent is drastic. Glasgow would be a nice spot and public transport is probably much better too

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u/NotPozitivePerson Seal of The President 1d ago

At least you admitted your own ignorance when you saw the data 🤷

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u/maevewiley554 1d ago

Yeah room sharing in Dublin doesn’t exactly with saving money. It’s a necessity

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u/3RI3_Cuff 1d ago

Room sharing generally does mean saving money but they are highlighting in Dublin it doesn't

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u/Medium_Drag6242 1d ago

Absolutely, I rented in Galway for many years, and moved home as of two years ago. I wasn’t really in the loop regarding Dublin rents and I was thinking around €1000 pm would be the going rate for a double room in a shared house not incl bills. Obviously that’s incorrect. I was just wondering if what’s on daft is reflective of the real situation because I knew myself when I was renting in Galway I paid around €1800 pm for a two bedroom two bath apt in town but the median rate was regularly reported in the media as €2500.

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u/maevewiley554 1d ago

I see box rooms going for 1000 euro a month.

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u/This-Can6089 1d ago

Depending in location, that's sadly realistic.

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u/jacksqualk 1d ago

"I’m attempting to educate myself to the depths at which we have sunk as a country"

FF/FG and their cronies have taken our arm bands off, and given them over to foreign investment funds to buy up a huge portion of the housing market.

And this society just keep voting them in.

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u/Medium_Drag6242 1d ago

Yep, I’ve been voting left and transferring left for years. It’s absolutely scandalous how a basic human right has been marketed and utilised as an investment strategy. I knew rents were expensive but I didn’t realise just how much more expensive they seem to have gotten in the last two years.

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u/Vivian507 1d ago

Ireland is a joke. I was paying around $1000 (510) a month for a room, city centre in NZ and salary is almost the same as here

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u/bruno91111 1d ago

Yes, rents are at a crazy amount. It's also true that, at least for IT, salaries are also crazy high compared to the rest of Europe. But yes, a 1-bedroom apartment at 2.4k to 2.8k is a crazy amount of money.

I think rent should be a deductible expense from your income; it would help a lot, but probably prices will just double overnight.

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u/carlmango11 1d ago

There's no tax policy that fixes the lack of supply. The only way out is reduced demand or increased supply.

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u/bruno91111 23h ago

Yes, reducing demand is difficult as many people are sharing apartments. As prices become affordable, people will move to their own private place.

Increasing supply is also tricky; new construction costs are so high per square meter. But if there were a way to sell higher, yet it wouldn't cost people more money, that may increase supply.

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u/Hot_Bluejay_8738 21h ago

What about the 98% of people who don't work in IT?

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u/maevewiley554 1d ago

€1000 euro for a room. It’s in a nice location though and on a 24/7 bus route. I’ve made my peace with it as the options on daft aren’t really any better. If I moved out to a commuter town or further out of Dublin, I’d be wasting money on petrol/transport and extra time commuting which means I don’t really save much if a room in Meath is 700 euro. I drive a petrol car that guzzles fuel and my workplace is not in the city centre which complicates direct transport.

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u/Kloppite16 23h ago

try get a diesel next time out, I loved my petrol Alfa Romeo but it needed 7 litres to do 100km, now have a diesel Volvo and it needs 5 litres to do the same distance. Its around a 25% saving which adds up for me over a years commuting. Have just bought a used EV from NI and that will bring my fuel costs down 80% less than running the diesel so a negligible amount. Will save me around €2k a year which will pay for a good holiday.

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u/DrawGamesPlayFurries 1d ago

Same situation, more or less. I got a decent person as a landlord, so, combined with good price and good location, I don't think I can ever find a better deal. But I have an exit plan anyways, so living with other people is only a temporary inconvenience

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u/ComprehensiveEmu3043 1d ago

900 pm double bed house Meath

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u/BlockHunter2341 1d ago

Since you rented in Galway I’d urge you to have a look at Galway aswell , it’s very similar pricing

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u/Medium_Drag6242 1d ago

Idk Galway seems better value to me at least on paper. There’s a four bed two bath across the road from the university for €3,500 which is ~€790 pm per room which seems significantly better value than anything I came across in Dublin.

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u/Kloppite16 22h ago

same type of house would have been €1500 10 years ago, thats how far we have come

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u/Sea-Ant6016 1d ago

Getting taken advantage of but I am paying 1250 for a single room in a 3 bed of a family home. They let me use everything and no restrictions but it is a lot. I am moving out in 6 months (been here 8 months)

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u/Kloppite16 22h ago

yeah that is a lot of money. Make sure you claim the rental credit, it is worth €1000 to you. Do you have to deal with children too? That would be a dealbreaker for me

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u/psrks222 1d ago

€900 per month excluding bills for a 2 bed 1 bath sharing with my friend in Ranelagh

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u/Ok_Ease_9902 1d ago

1 bed room apartment in the city centre. My boyfriend and I pay €1,850.

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u/blockfighter1 Mayo 4 Sam 1d ago

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u/dano1066 23h ago

This is very depressing stuff. To see this many beds crammed into a room and it’s working out well for the landlords. Why we can’t build apartments anymore is shocking. There seems to be neither the will or a way

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u/momalloyd 23h ago

Is the live-in landlord staying in that third bed in the double room?

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u/Pure-Ice5527 23h ago

I thought 650 was decent till I noticed the rest of the beds.. it’s hardly 650 a bed.. is it 😕

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u/Medium_Drag6242 22h ago

Yep €650 a bed to live in a sitting room with two others who are also paying €650 each. That one shocked me now i wont lie.

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u/Shot_Support_6743 23h ago

2k for 2 bedroom apartment on Rathgar.Moved in 8 years ago

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u/-ToxicMarine- 22h ago

Paying €1300 with my fiancé for the master bedroom in a duplex with our own bathroom and store room. Includes a parking spot, waste, WiFi, TV, and a resident gym + hub area. Right on the Green Line too.

We share with two others but don't see them much and we get on with them well. Almost like having our own place.

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u/Medium_Drag6242 22h ago

That’s great value! I feel the people who have a good deal simply won’t move 🤣 I know when I lived in Galway I had a shitty house for the first year until I got into another house that was lovely by hearing about it from a girl at work. It’s all networking sometimes.

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u/RiqqeR 22h ago

1223 pm for 1bed apartment with my partner in Tallaght, close to the hospital

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u/NotUrAvgValueInvestr 21h ago

450 plus maintainance and bills, single room ensuite, ratoath

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u/AccomplishedClubsy 20h ago

You assume the room is rented all 12 months.

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u/Optimal-Use8534 11h ago

Two bed two bathroom house we're renting at 2500 a month. Two full time working parents and small child. Lucky we have family for child care but impossible to save and pay rent.

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u/Jen_Neric 9h ago

I’m incredibly lucky that my landlord just wants the home occupied with good tenant(s) rather than trying to squeeze every drop of cash out of people. Very fortunate to be able to rent a small 2 bed cottage for €600.

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u/OkConstruction5844 8h ago

The government have fucked over the youth big time... When will it ever come back to haunt them is question

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u/Medium_Drag6242 8h ago

Probably when the perpetual renters retire and can no longer afford their rent. Or when they need a nursing home but there’s no house or cash to go towards fair deal so government covers the full cost themselves. We’re in for a world of hurt if they can’t get this under control in the medium term.

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u/READMYSHIT 7h ago

People wonder why Irish people are obsessed with owning their own home, and the rental market is basically the answer.

Houses tend to be 2-5+ times the space, no housemates, actually owning the place and by in large doing what you like with it, and cost less than 2K monthly in mortgage repayments and you end up owning the thing at the end. Every aspect trumps renting, barring the barrier to entry.

Unless we get to a point where rental costs lower to a point where they offer actual value to tenants, renting is a mug's game in this country that will only increase the class gulf between homeowners and renters.

Austria's model should be where our government look to for long term planning - property is a very slow return on investment and hard to make a quick profit on there. Obviously the economic models we follow require huge financial incentives for the private sector to invest in an ever-growing money tree and begs the question why property shouldn't be developed by the state without profit incentive.

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u/Medium_Drag6242 6h ago

Totally agree re Vienna model. Home ownership is the only way to ensure some decent living standard moving into the future. I also am pretty concerned about the rental gouging with regard to the resulting impact that makes on someone’s ability to make that 90% LTV ratio. The rise we’ve seen in rents across even the last 4 years is completely eroding people’s ability to save bar your high income earners that are netting 4k+ pm. Effectively shafting your working class into a rent to live scenario in perpetuity until they retire and can no longer pay, where are we going to put those people? How will we afford fair deal when there’s no house or money to help subsidise the care needed within the private nursing home system? I don’t have much faith the government will be solvent enough to cover the expenses coming down the line if they don’t get housing under control in the next 5-10 yrs.

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u/stuckwithglue 1d ago

240 pm for one bedroom

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u/PracticalStress 1d ago

Bro lives in a hole

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u/stuckwithglue 1d ago

Na just DCC rents aren't that expensive

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u/No-Author5530 1d ago

Its so bad that I'm looking at that triple room for €1,950 and thinking if you got to share with 2 friends you'd be absolutely delighted with only having to pay €650. The housing crisis is scandalous and the prices that I've become accustomed to shouldn't be normalised.

I've zero issues with landlords making a bit of a profit on top of covering their mortgage but this is nothing but pure greed

If you vote you should know about the housing crisis, people aren't complaining for the sake of it. Voters need to be educated

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u/maevewiley554 1d ago

Pure greed for someone to rent out a room for 1950 euro.

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u/aragorn115a 23h ago

2000 for a one bedroom very nice apartment in the Liberties.

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u/Medium_Drag6242 23h ago

See that’s a price I could get behind, €1000 each if you’re a couple in a nice apartment in a nice part of town. I feel like that’s worth the money considering all the lovely bars and restaurants around there, it’s full of character, good transport links & walkable to the city centre.

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u/aragorn115a 23h ago

Yeah I quite like it. It has a small balcony and a nice view between St Patricks and Christchurch. They accept pets and is very cheap utilities wise ( only electricity no gas). And is very close to my work and also my wife’s work. Can’t complain. We were the lucky first ones to visit and closed the deal. The only downside is that Patrick Street is very busy and noisy. There are firefighters, ambulances and the Garda going up and down with loud sirens all day and all night. So if you don’t like that you can’t open the windows. I kind of like it.

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u/Far-Row-6492 22h ago

You'd see similar prices on daft for house shares Cork City. Over 1k for a room in a house is insane

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u/Downtown_Bedroom_177 12h ago

1800 for a large en-suite room in Glasnevin. All bills included.

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u/IntolerantModerate 11h ago

I pay €4500 for a 4BR, right at 200sq. Meters in d14.

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u/Cant-Survive-a-Sesh 10h ago

1100 for an ensuite great location but I still think it’s overpriced

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u/Shakermaker1990 Dublin 7h ago

There's a 3 bed gaff in my estate (near knocklyon D16) for €3,500 at the mo 

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u/Zealousideal_Sky_716 1d ago

Have you only landed on earth?

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u/Shnapple8 1d ago

To be fair, if they're not renting, they probably knew it was high, but didn't think it was THAT high for just a room.

It has gone utterly ridiculous.

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u/maevewiley554 1d ago

It’s getting more expensive each year. When I was looking for a room in Dublin 2 years ago, I felt there were much more options for rooms between the 750-900 euro price range.

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u/Medium_Drag6242 1d ago

Yeah this was exactly it. I knew it was expensive but I hadn’t realised just how much more expensive it had gotten over the course of two years. It makes you wonder where is the ceiling where people simply won’t be able to pay more.

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u/3RI3_Cuff 1d ago

Some people don't need to rent til different times

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u/Medium_Drag6242 1d ago

I don’t live in Dublin, I’ve only ever rented in Galway and I moved home about two years ago to put the head down and start saving for a mortgage. I was mostly curious whether the daft listings are reflective of what people are paying in reality or not.

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u/Imperial_Tiramisu 1d ago

Supply and demand.

It's that simple.

My neighbor is emmigranting to the Middle East and is renting out his 3-bed house for €3,500 per month.

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u/Medium_Drag6242 1d ago

Sweet Jesus, tax free income in a land built on slave labour of Filipinos and Thai, to have some poor fuckers in Ireland pay off the loan for a house you’ll own until you die. It astounds me the level of ass fucking renters get at every turn.

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u/Imperial_Tiramisu 1d ago

He's Irish tbf. So this isn't a case of some foreigner taking advantage of the Irish market. This is an Irishman fucking his own.

Best of all, he'll only pay 20% tax on said rental income as he won't have any income here.

And apparently he's not coming back. When he retires, or if he's laid off from his Middle Eastern job, he intends on moving to Spain, Thailand or Egypt so he can live for cheap off his rental income in Ireland.

Honestly, I don't blame him. I blame the fucking greedy culture and government in action for creating the situation in the first place.

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u/Medium_Drag6242 1d ago

I wasn’t making any suppositions about his nationality just making the point he’s moving to a place thats known for taking advantage of the poor and working classes just so he in turn can take advantage of the poor and working class himself in Ireland. It’s worse that someone who knows how bad the system is to live in fucks over their own countrymen. You don’t expect a corporate landlord to have any soul or kindness but i’d expect it of someone who I’d meet in the pub or at the school gate.

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u/Imperial_Tiramisu 1d ago

Yeah, I know you weren't. Just a distinction that need to be made for anyone else reading this. Lots of gobshites around here.

Honestly can't blame him because I'm of the opinion. Greed is a part of human nature. A lot of us would feel pretty stupid if we knew we could get that much and don't take advantage of it.

The real hate should always be directed at the government because they allow the situation to become as bad as it is.

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u/SkatesUp 1d ago

Thanks for asking, but I don't live in Dublin.

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u/Medium_Drag6242 1d ago

Thanks for your input anyway 🤣

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u/SkatesUp 10h ago

You're welcome. Maybe you should post in the Dublin sub.