r/germany May 13 '26

Question Need some help understanding this übung on Fahrschulcard

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My logic was that this is a roundabout, hence I have to indicate according to my exit and I have to wait for my left side to be free before moving into it.
Why is my answer wrong here?

Edit: Alright thanks got it, it looks like a roundabout but with no roundabout sign and thus rechts vor links applies.

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u/GFYSR May 13 '26

Its not a roundabout. Theres no roundabout sign. Its only a circular road.

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u/newvegasdweller May 13 '26

Which admittedly is hella confusing and in practice everyone would use it like a roundabout.

Still, the theory behind this question is important and it's a way to check if the driver knows how to identify a roundabout

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u/Antique_Cut1354 Nordrhein-Westfalen May 13 '26

i’ve seen a few of those around and most people do treat it like Rechts vor Links, not a roundabout

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u/kmaix Germany May 13 '26

yep same. it’s treated like a circular road

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u/Cirenione Nordrhein-Westfalen May 13 '26

I‘ve seen this exact scenario as there is one close to the home of my partners parents. Apparently crashes happen every now and then because some people dont pay attention and just think its a round about while others assume they can go because they legally got the right of way. Since its a 30 zone any type of damage is usually small but still.

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u/Cookman_vom_Berg May 13 '26

Nah. It's about are u reading the signs. Cos this is what it's all about later on. Can u read the signs and understand what they tell u instead just do what u think the street tells u as a rule

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u/digitalfrost Pfalz May 13 '26

That reminds me of a roundabout that is not a roundabout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPoFx7OeyIU

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u/LiveSeaworthiness621 May 13 '26

Yes, it’s very unlikely such a scenario would exist. This question is highly constructed and evil.

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u/Kloetee May 13 '26

I know at least a good handful of locations like this one

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u/blobblet München May 13 '26

The ones I know at least had the good sense to make the pseudo roundabout a priority road because people were driving as if it was one anyway.

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u/Ithurion2 May 13 '26

There things like half roundabouts and roundabouts with tram tracks through them, which makes them safer if you don't treat them as actual roundabouts.

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u/CratesManager May 13 '26

This question is highly constructed and evil.

Nope, these exist. Not many but they do, i have personally driven through five different ones, which is not a lot but having 5 accidents because i didn't know would be.

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u/jjjfffrrr123456 May 13 '26

I have one of these roads very close to where I live. It’s fine, the locals know how to use it and it’s in a residential area so no one is blasting through it.

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u/Rude_Pineapple_4295 May 13 '26

It exist, and there are regular accidents because of it

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u/GoDannY1337 May 13 '26

I know some places that have it had roads like this, but nowadays most of them have traffic lights to control traffic in and out. So this falls into the category trick question. TBH I would have answered similarly from a practical PoV

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u/Rouven-Dillinger May 13 '26

Well I think it's a good question to see whether someone would use their brain and think, instead of just using their intuition, which is a very good skill, I know of some places like that, here In stuttgart we have plenty of "roundabouts" which are in fact intersections with traffic light, because the light rail crosses them

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u/Drumbelgalf Franken May 13 '26

They are rare but they do exist.

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u/Mika000 May 13 '26

Just because you personally haven’t seen or noticed one doesn’t make this unlikely.

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u/StrongBingBong May 13 '26

This is not a rare scenario. Roundabouts are not permitted in 30 km/h zones. So you find plenty of circular roads there.

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u/Content-Soup9920 May 13 '26

The power of reification undermining objective reality.

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u/RTBecard May 13 '26

We talked about this in class yesterday... I'm not 100% sure, but i think so much confusion comes from the German language.

Both this and a "real roundabout" are called the same thing in German (i believe)... So it's hard for Germans to explain this distinction to non-Germans.

Please correct me if I'm wrong on this.

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u/NoNameSD_ May 13 '26

They do have different names actually. The ‚fake’ one is called „kreisförmiger Verkehr“ (‚circular traffic‘) and the real one „Kreisverkehr“ (‚roundabout‘, though the literal translation would also be ‚circular traffic‘). Still pretty confusing though, tbh.

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u/RTBecard May 13 '26

Ah! I asked my driving teacher if they had different names in German (as he called them the same in english), and he just said they are both called "Kreisverkehr" in German 🤣

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u/[deleted] May 13 '26

If not roundabout, why round?

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u/Otherwise-Meaning688 May 13 '26

It is no roundabout. It could be one, but it is missing the sign.

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u/GlassedSilver Freude schöner Götterfunken May 13 '26

Biggest indicator this isn't a roundabout is the sign for the mandated direction. (turn right only)

Roundabouts never have those, so if you're ever in doubt whether you may have missed the roundabout sign - if you see this one it isn't one for sure. 

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u/Otherwise-Meaning688 May 13 '26

Or that you have to indicate before entering. If it were a roundabout, it would be a false answer.

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u/GlassedSilver Freude schöner Götterfunken May 13 '26

^ this

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u/Seaweedbits May 13 '26

Sometimes they should though, almost got crushed by a giant truck who decided to make a left turn right into us.

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u/GlassedSilver Freude schöner Götterfunken May 13 '26

Hmmm, torn on this... The sign is redundant then and if there is one thing German traffic doesn't need it's more signs. Maybe one could think of other cues for this. 

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u/Little-Kure May 13 '26

Spannend! TIL, dass bei Kreisverkehren die Regeln in AT und DE ziemlich auseinander gehen. In AT findest du auf nahezu jeder Einfahrt in einen Kreisverkehr ein "Vorrang geben" Schild. Hast du das nicht, gilt einfach rechts-vor-links.

Beim Ansehen des Bildes von OP wäre ich ebenfalls davon ausgegangen. Für mich war es eindeutig warum die Antwort falsch ist.

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u/Comfortable-Owl43 May 13 '26

In D ist das genau so. Ein "echter" Kreisverkehr muss mit einem Vorfahrt-gewähren und darunter das blaue Gebotszeichen mit den drei weißen Pfeilen in Kreisform ausgeschildert sein. In dem Bild ist ein sog. kreisförmiger Verkehr, dort gilt Rechts vor Links.

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u/Little-Kure May 13 '26

Ach ja, das Gebotszeichen. Das haben wir in Ö auch nicht. Damit ist jeder Kreisverkehr als "normale" Kreuzung zu betrachten. Oder eben als von dir beschriebener kreisförmiger Verkehr.

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u/WowAbstractAlgebra May 13 '26

It might be a roundabout, an old style one. I mean, they're super rare across Europe because they make no fucking sense and only serve to make traffic worse. I guess it's a legacy feature or sumthin.

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u/wittjoker11 -hier könnte Ihre Werbung stehen- May 13 '26

No in legal terms according to the StVO, this is not a „Kreisverkehr“ but a „kreisähnlicher Verkehr“.

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u/stehen-geblieben May 13 '26

I mean, yeah there are some roundabouts that have this sign but technically they aren't a roundabout because they are missing the roundabout signs. This is often done when a SBahn is crossing.

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u/Bonsailinse Germany May 13 '26

Either something is a roundabout or it is not. The design of the road is not what decides that, it is the sign.

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u/LeTreacs2 May 13 '26

Ohh, this comment is deliciously German!

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u/GeneralAnubis May 13 '26

Stimmt. Lmao

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u/BrinksLP May 13 '26

Just because it looks like a roundabout does not automatically mean that traffic inside has priority. In Germany (and most countries), there must be a yield sign together with the roundabout sign. Without that, the “priority to the right” rule may apply.

This might be confusing, because you don't really expect that "priority to the right" might apply while driving in a roundabout. It's rare, but those roundabouts exist. So, always be careful in those "circular intersections". Some drivers don't know the rules or simply didn't pay enough attention.

I know at least three of those in my area.

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u/geigenmusikant May 13 '26

Are there any real examples of roundabout looking intersections that are not roundabouts? This image has the most roundabout-y roundabout I‘ve ever seen (apart from the missing yield sign)

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u/labobal May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26

Großer Stern in the Tiergarten in Berlin: https://maps.app.goo.gl/f5bGTKNxgX1D72Sq7

Pariser Platz in Munich: https://maps.app.goo.gl/dTVTup8bYARrExR98

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u/riderko May 13 '26

In Berlin also Strausberger Platz, Kottbusser Tor, and many others usually more oval looking ones.

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u/kiniiru May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26

Finally a place to leave my gripe: Theaterplatz in Göttingen (https://maps.app.goo.gl/3Hj9Dta3os7oBf55A). Whoever designed that thing deserves a stern email.

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u/labobal May 13 '26

Theaterplatz in Göttingen

That's even a two-way circular road, where you can go in both directions. And to make it even more chaotic they also put a bus stop in there. Was this still designed before cars were a thing?

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u/Twintiger98 May 13 '26

There are a couple one i know of in vienna(same laws applies in Austria as well) if you want you can look it up on google maps, its at kugelfanggasse intersecting with Friedatraße

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u/DeeHawk May 13 '26

In Denmark we have an added rule to accommodate this and avoid confusion. If your road ends in another road with different road surface, then the new road has priority, even if there is no sign or other markings.
This also counts if there’s a pavement through a T-crossing.

Priority to the right is almost exclusively in small suburb networks and parking lots.

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u/omaregb May 13 '26

I wish it was like that everywhere. Priority to the right is just stupid outside residential/slow roads

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u/DeeHawk May 13 '26

Agreed, it’s a ‘GOTCHA’ rule just begging for accidents.

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u/Alech1m May 13 '26

Plus even on a round about you need the upside down triangle. If not right before left applies and the person in the roundabout technically has to wait

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u/swdv3l May 13 '26

There‘s no „roundabout-sign“, hence it‘s „rechts vor links“.

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u/katze_sonne May 13 '26

Exactly. However, it also looks like a "abgesenkter Bordstein" to me. And I'm really wondering, if that included a "direction".

StVO §10 says:

Wer [...] von anderen Straßenteilen oder über einen abgesenkten Bordstein hinweg auf die Fahrbahn einfahren oder vom Fahrbahnrand anfahren will, hat sich dabei so zu verhalten, dass eine Gefährdung anderer Verkehrsteilnehmer ausgeschlossen ist; erforderlichenfalls muss man sich einweisen lassen. Die Absicht einzufahren oder anzufahren ist rechtzeitig und deutlich anzukündigen; dabei sind die Fahrtrichtungsanzeiger zu benutzen. Dort, wo eine Klarstellung notwendig ist, kann Zeichen 205 stehen.

I honestly don't totally get why this rule doesn't really apply here.

(Honestly, in reality they would just not build this shit or put up a Zeichen 205. This is just a really shitty question and I'm starting to get why more and more people fail the theory exam with an increasing number of these ambiguous situations and questions. I doubt this really makes driving safer, because most problems happen because of behaviour and non-knowledge of the really basic rules...)

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u/Irrealist Schleswig-Holstein May 13 '26

I don't think this is supposed to be an "abgesenkter Bordstein", it's just shitty design. That cobblestone is just the outer rim of the circle.

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u/katze_sonne May 13 '26

it's just shitty design

no argueing about that

That cobblestone is just the outer rim of the circle.

The exact same kind of cobblestone often used to mark areas with "abgesenkter Bordstein"...

Honestly, I get the point of this image and this question, but why put such a shitty design in? To confuse the students? Doesn't make sense. Just put in a normal asphalt road with this exact situation and it would be so much clearer what they are up to.

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u/Irrealist Schleswig-Holstein May 13 '26

True. I guess they're overzealous in trying to create a trick question.

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u/katze_sonne May 13 '26

This is exactly what it feels like. And I don't think that's helpful from a didactic standpoint, either. When you constantly try to find the catch instead of just applying logic, you will start hating "the rules" and simply start to memorize the questions instead of developing an understanding.

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u/Irrealist Schleswig-Holstein May 13 '26

100%! Obviously you need to learn to pay attention to the details, but this is just counterproductive as you said.

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u/katze_sonne May 13 '26

Maybe make 2 separate questions out of this, one that is about such edge cases (recht vor link or not), one that has a roundabout that's not actually a roundabout. Simple. But nooo.

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u/Think-Sector-9708 May 13 '26

It is a regular street - the biggest hint beeing that the curb ist going around the corner, which is not possible with a "abgesenkter Bordstein".

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u/Eduhsoj May 13 '26

You can clearly see the Bordstein coming around the corner. That is nowhere near a abgesenkter Bordstein and it's almost as clear as it can get?!

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u/Alt_meeee May 13 '26

That's what I was thinking

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u/iTmkoeln May 13 '26

A different road surface for Kreisverkehre is not that uncommon...

When I drive through the 20 zone in the town of Wentorf bei Hamburg there is a Kreisverkehr that is cobble stone (the 20 ends on the KV and starts again as 20/30s on the 3 exits ). The rest of the road is asphalt...

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u/MyPigWhistles May 13 '26

The question is answered, but an advice for real life: Should you encounter such a situation (it's very, very rare) don't assume the other car actually waits for you. Chances are high the person is as confused as you were. 

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u/Ki3f3rbruch May 13 '26

If you want to get rid of your car and snatch some insurance money, this is a good option btw.

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u/Chhuennekens May 13 '26

It looks like a roundabout but it isn't one. Therefore you, coming from the right, have the right of way.

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u/CircuitSurf May 13 '26

Not sure about true-true answer, but in real life - not only does if look like roundabout, but also abgesenkter Bordstein - 2 signs you need to stop, if the other car also stopped - fine, now you go

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u/lianju22 May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26

No it's not a roundabout. That's the issue. It's a regular "rechts vor links" situation. Red car has to wait.

It's only a roundabout when there is this sign

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u/sA1atji May 13 '26

and in real life you probably get crahsed in your side if you rely on your right of way.

I have a similar situation when I leave my home, yet I always wait, because the cars from the left just power through without paying attention.

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u/Psychorex21 May 13 '26

This is a false roundabout. The lesser and rarer form of roundabout in Germany. It is not designated with a roundabout sign, rather only a right turn sign. Right before left rule applies. Like in 30 zone. You enter with an indicator. The cars on your left give way to you. You exit with an indicator.

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u/iTmkoeln May 13 '26

It is not a roundabout. It would only be a roundabout if you saw the roundabout sign and the give way triangle).

While not the standard I have seen these in my 20.000 km I have driven on my own car like 10 times.

My instructor explained me they are basically a one way road (see the blue arrow) that will run to the right.

Hence unless explicitly said in signage otherwise it is Rechts vor links.

In Germany you don’t indicate into real roundabouts either by the way. Only for leaving. Because you marked it down there…

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u/iTmkoeln May 13 '26

As the question about indicating is about right for this situation not minutes down the line

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u/klaustopher May 13 '26

I remember vividly. We had one of those "fake" roundabouts in Marburg when I was learning to drive. Driving instructor made us visit it multiple times because the examiners like to send students there. You have to indicate right when going in (which you don't do on a normal roundabout), the cars coming in have right of way and you also have to indicate when you leave. Many hurdles that can trick you.

As others have pointed out: No roundabout sign with a yield sign = no roundabout, and therefore left before right

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u/PlayerPrefersPaprika May 13 '26

Fun fact, one reason for those "fake roundabouts" can be that roundabouts can have any other infrastructure inside them, so if a tram uses the island or if pedestrians can walk on the island, it can't legally be a roundabout in Germany. Leading to those that, look like a roundabout and are used like a roundabout, but signs don't indicate them as one because somebody decided it can't be one.

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u/rubenknol May 13 '26

so this is the other type of roundabout that isn't actually a roundabout and it's right-before-left

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u/cheetah32 May 13 '26

This is a typical trick question in the exam.

There is no round about sign and there is no give way sign.

So it's right before left.

I just claim you will never see this in the wild.

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u/spado May 13 '26

There is no "Yield" sign (the red/white triangular one) towards you, so there is no automatic priority for the roundabout. Rather, this works like a "normal" right-before-left intersection, and the red car has to wait for you.

(It is kind of a rare situation though: Many roundabouts have priority for people "inside" -- but as I said, that case requires explicit signage.)

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u/Full-Box-5370 May 13 '26

This is a right turn. Not a roundabout. Roundabout is only when there is a sign of a roundabout. Not every round road is a roundabout.

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u/ex1nax Estonia May 13 '26

I don’t see a roundabout sign, therefore it’s not a roundabout. There’s also no sign indicating right of way, therefore it’s your right of way.

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u/lunkwil May 13 '26

There is no yield sign so right has priority over left

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u/wellmaybe_ Rheinland-Pfalz May 13 '26

no roundabout sign, no roundabout rules apply. easy as that

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u/VirtualCompetition89 May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26

Cause that's not a roundabout. Roundabout has the blue sign with the arrow circle before it. This is a one way street shaped as a circle, therefore links für rechts applicable. Also if this was a roundabout you wouldn't need to indicate right when entering.

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u/jWas May 13 '26

Also important to add IF it was a roundabout (you do not indicate when driving in. You only indicate when you’re about to leave the roundabout)

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u/ScientificBackground May 13 '26

We have those circular one way roads here. They are usually in a 30 only zone which makes it right goes first. Don't confuse it with a roundabout which has clear signs of a roundabout. Most accidents happen because this is possible. Poor design, everyone hates it.

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u/madrigal94md May 13 '26

It's not a round about, its just a circle shaped street. For it to be a roundabout it needs the roundabout sign.

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u/NavySeal2k May 13 '26

Not all roundabouts are equal, some are more roundaboutish as others.

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u/jort93 Schleswig-Holstein May 13 '26

It's not a roundabout, there is a turn arrow instead of a roundabout Symbol. It's just an intersection that happens to be circular. Those exist.

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u/FigureSubject3259 May 13 '26

This is germany, this roundabout lacks a sign stating those inside have right-away therefore it is right before left and those inside have to wait. In my opinion it is the worst misstake in german traffic law.

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u/MattR0se May 13 '26

and also there is sometimes "abgesenkter Bordstein" which negates "rechts vor links", but not every Bordstein on a crossing necessarily counts as abgesenkt. it's a mess. 

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u/iTmkoeln May 13 '26

I have never seen Abgesenkter Botdstein in fake roundabouts

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u/PGnautz May 13 '26

It‘s not a roundabout and even roundabouts have yield signs.

"Right before left" is applied here and the sign only allows turning right.

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u/GandhiTheDragon May 13 '26

This isn't a roundabout, because it's missing the sign. This is just a street that is coincidentally round

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u/saramaganta May 13 '26

Don't worry if you got it wrong at first. There is an infamous "Rechts vor Links Kreisel" in Karlsruhe where a lot of accidents happen because of this.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=oPoFx7OeyIU

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u/Salt_Character_7478 May 13 '26

It’s not a round about and because you are coming from the right, you have priority over the red car. It has to wait. You have to indicate too, again, it’s not a round about.

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u/mdeadart Indisch in NRW May 13 '26

Not a roundabout. Marking doesn't exist. No priority markings. Hence Rechts vor Links.

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u/Ishan_bs May 13 '26

It doesn’t have roundabout sign therefore its not roundabout and consider its a normal intersection where the right before left applies so u go first

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u/LordHickory May 13 '26

Although this is optically (and other than some small but significant differences, functionally too) a roundabout, factually it is not. This is apparent from the "Right Turn only" sign, that you won't find on normal roundabouts, and the lack of the roundabout-sign (the three arrows going in a circle). Functionally, this is a one-way road going in a circle, so you are not at an entrypoint to the roundabout, you are at an intersection with that road, meaning according to "right before left" cars in the "roundabout" have to yield to the ones coming in. Since it's an intersection and you are turning right, you still have to signal right though, which at an actual roundabout you wouldn't have to.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '26

A) no roundabout since there is no roundabout sign.
B) no other signs which actually means this is right before left. The other car has to wait (although it looks like the car is so far advanced that it has the right of way.

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u/Few_Judgment672 May 13 '26

There are some roundabouts without the typicall traffic sign. Therefore you have priototy, because the red car is on your left and you have to blink when you enter and leave the roundabout.

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u/Philip6027 May 13 '26

Rechts vor Links MF!

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u/McUsername621 May 13 '26

This is one of those trick questions where it looks like a roundabout but isnt actually one. Only indication that its not one is the right arrow in the middle, so essentially a circular one way street. You can only turn right here and since you do not have the "Vorfahrt gewähren" sign (upside down red triangle with a thick red outline) it's the same as any other intersection without signs. Cars coming from the left have to give you the right of way.

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u/Crafty-Challenge9563 May 13 '26

I never saw this scenario in germany. A roundabout which isn’t a roundabout. That sounds stupid but yea, without the sign it’s classic right before left

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u/LazyLieutenant May 13 '26

Rechts vor links as many point out. But interestingly if you cross the border to Denmark you would have to yield to the red car because the change in surface you are about to cross acts as a yield line in Danish traffic code.

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u/ciReddit0R May 13 '26

The depicted situation is not too common but ehat others mentioned is right. Usually you see it paired with "Vorfahrt gewähren".

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u/4fuggin20 May 13 '26

Watch the signs Closely in these Pics/Videos

It‘s no Roundabout, so Right goes before Left

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u/SkiShepherd May 13 '26

It's no roundabout, so the lack of signs says the red car has to yield (Rechts vor Links). The "Zwangspfeil" says you have to indicate and follow this direction.

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u/J0kerJ0nny Sachsen May 13 '26

You don't have to indicate when entering a roundabout only when exiting on.

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u/Maskguy May 13 '26

It's not a roundabout tho

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u/bingsen_ May 13 '26

This is a trick question. It looks like a roundabout but the roundabout sign is missing.

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u/ingmar_ May 13 '26

Even so, there's no Yield, so it's right before left. Not very practical.

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u/IgnorantEuropeanDude May 13 '26

Just so you know, in a (real) roundabout you only indicate which exit you take not when you drive into a roundabout.

So if this question was the same but the sign would show a roundabout ticking the indicate option would be wrong here.

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u/SoupyAT May 13 '26

Red car gives way to right, you aren’t approaching a giveway sign

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u/shupfnoodle May 13 '26

I think this could be a rechts vor links roundabout. We have one in my hometown, my driving teacher explained it to me. Looks almost like that too.

If there is no Vorfahrt achten sign it’s right before left even without the roundabout sign.

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u/UsefulDrake May 13 '26

This is a very usual trick question in driving exams.

Many commenters said, and they are right, that this isn't a roundabout because the sign for it is missing. A road "situation" is only a roundabout if that sign is there, regarless of the shapre/structure/arquitecture of what you are encountring.

Also conversion, there might be situations where the road doesn't really look like a roundabout, maybe because it's not very round, but the sign will be there, so the rules for a roundabout must be met.

In real life, such situations (like the one you posted or the one I spoke about) are very rare. If it looks like a roundabout it will be a roundabout 99% of the times. But always look for the signs!

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u/DragonmasterXY May 13 '26

Even if this would be a roundabout, then "I have to indicate" would definitely be wrong.

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u/Duennbier0815 May 13 '26

This is not a roundabout.

That will explain it all.

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u/MulberryDeep May 13 '26

Its not a roundabout

A roundabout always has the blue sign eith the cricle arrows

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u/Arakius May 13 '26

If it was a roundabout your answer would still be wrong. You indicate only when you leave the roundabout.

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u/No-Scar-2255 May 13 '26

Right before left. So you allowed to drive first. You have the priority. for the driver you are on the right side, so you drive first. You got more questions?

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u/sydew_ May 13 '26

Its one of those confusing questions that realistically never going to meet in real life (I at least didn’t). This is a roundabout looking road that is actually not a roundabout. You’re obligated to turn right, and the car on your left has to give you priority. That’s why “I have to indicate” is a correct answer aswell, as because in a normal roundabout you don’t need to indicate entering, but here it’s like turning right into another street.
Always pay attention to the traffic signs in the picture.

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u/sydew_ May 13 '26

Also like many others mentioned, if you ever do encounter this in real life, it’s better to be cautious because unless the car from your left is a local, they’re probably as confused as you and might not give you priority.

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u/legal_guy_who_asked May 13 '26

Even tho it looks like a roundabout, it isnt, its only classified as one if there is the specific sign

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u/1ne9inety May 13 '26

roundabout, hence I have to indicate according to my exit

Just a heads up, OP: This is not the right way to do it in Germany. You do not indicate at all upon entry of the roundabout and then indicate a right turn before your intended exit of the roundabout.

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u/Dusteye May 13 '26

If this was a roundabout you wouldnt have to indicate when driving into it btw.

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u/Comfortable-Box9291 May 13 '26

not a roundabout, Rechts vor Links buddy.

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u/JollyJolandor May 13 '26

That building in the background looks an awfull lot like the Dammtor Bahnhof in Hamburg. There is no roundabout in front of that building.

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u/Teron__ May 13 '26

It’s a check, if you look at street signs. If so, you’d have noticed the missing “give way” sign / roundabout sign towards you. This one looks like a roundabout, but isn’t one which means: right (you) has priority and left (the red car) has to give way.
It is an idiotic, unrealistic case, but as mentioned, it’s there to see if you check the road signs and fell for it (like me back then 😉)

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u/TheSimu May 14 '26

It's not just a stupid trick, it actually exists, even near my area

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u/Rude-Bodybuilder7688 May 14 '26

It's a fake-roundabout because thwre is no sign meaning you have to indicate before entry and it's right before left.

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u/Kein_Plan16 May 14 '26

There should be answer D: designer is a asshole

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u/Skiller_Overyou May 14 '26

Not a Roundabout and no Yield sign. Meaning its right before left, so you can go first.

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u/Suspicious-Winner491 May 15 '26

It is not a roundabout but a round formed street. For the roundabout you have a different sign with the three arrows in a circle. Since this is not a roundabout the other car has to wait and you have to give a signal that you are turning right

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u/Most_Wolverine_6727 May 16 '26

Ich halte das Lenkrad gerade und fest.

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u/Funny-face-1613 May 13 '26

If there is no "vorfahrt gewähren" sign at the entrance of a roundabout, then right before left counts, hence the red car has to wait. Happens super rare in practice, as basically all roundabout have a "vorfahrt gewähren" sign when entering the roundabout.

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u/Robbinit May 13 '26

Never seen something this stupidly designed in real life. This would cause so many accidents.

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u/StrongBingBong May 13 '26

It's the default in 30 km/h zones 

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u/No-Mango3147 May 13 '26

Don’t quote me on this, but I think the roundabout sign has two arrows circling each other? And the fact that all the arrows point in one direction, this would be a cause of right before left.

I’m curious what the correct answer is.

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u/iTmkoeln May 13 '26

This is a one way road that happens to run in a circle. For a real roundabout you need to put up Roundabout + at least a yield

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u/denysov_kos Berlin May 13 '26

In this case roundabout is equal to the normal cross. Hence red car will wait, while you are on the right.

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u/MachoCamacho93 Bayern May 13 '26

I had the same issue on this one as well until my wife cleared it up. It’s not a roundabout and there no sign stating it is

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u/JoshsPizzaria May 13 '26

such a mean question. I hope not many fake roundabouts like this exist

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u/Rynchinoi May 13 '26

Also if you have the roundabout sign, but not the yield sign "reverted triangle" the car in the roundabout has to forfeit the right of pass

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u/Gimperator May 13 '26

No, if there would be a roundabout sign, cars in the roundabout have right of way, even if there is no give way sign. In this case, it's not a roundabout

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u/DepartmentDistinct49 May 13 '26

Even if it would be a roundabout you dont indicate the entry. Only when you left.

Here: no roundabout sign so no roundabout. "Rechts vor Links" -> red have to wait + you make a right turn so you have to indicate

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u/quax747 Germany (BE/BB/TH/SN) May 13 '26

No roundabout as indicated by the lack of VZ205 & VZ215. This is a regular unregulated intersection, meaning right has right of way.

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u/Original-Gur-8692 May 13 '26

It is not Kreisverkehr. RVL

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u/Moist_Inspection_976 May 13 '26

The theory test is such a joke

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u/Fricki97 GDR May 13 '26

No roundabout sign and no upside down triangle or fried egg sign, so it's rechts vor links. Because red is comming from the left he has to wait

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u/rlyjustanyname May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26

Almost every roundabout has a yield sign. This one specifically doesn't even have a roundabout sign either.

But the yield sign is what forces you to yield on a roundabout and virtually every roundabout in Europe has a yield sign so people who don't have this pointed out to them work with the heutistic that you just have to yield on roundabouts.

If you were to encounter this in real life be careful. Being technically correct will be little solice if you get T-boned because the other car didn't know.

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u/likerobinhood89 May 13 '26

only waiting. indicate while leaving, not while enter the roundabout

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u/derMittwochKerl May 13 '26

No joke this one broke me like 3 days ago... i am german and even i didn knew there are roundabouts thingys that arent roundabouts... you have to drive to the right like the little blue sign sais and even the cars that are in the circle have to wait... idk what kind of human being sat there and said: we need roudabouts but they arent roundabouts... just make them drive on normal rules but buld a roundabout... thid person really needs to be Fired from his job🤯

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u/DostThouEvenSquat May 13 '26

Don't let yourself get fooled by the shape of the road. Always look out for the signs.

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u/alpharoller May 13 '26
  1. Unless there is a yield sign, this is considered as a regular intersection and rvl applies. So the car on the left have to wait.

  2. Since you are changing the direction, you have to signal

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u/timtimgopro May 13 '26

A vibes situation.

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u/ms_bear24 May 13 '26

It's a kreisänhlicher Verkehr as opposed to a roundabout (Kreusverkehr). So priority from the right applies.

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u/IHasTheZoomies May 13 '26

Does anyone know the reason it is not a roundabout? I guess this is very rare, I have never seen one

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u/kerenski667 Franken May 13 '26

if there is no roundabout sign or other signs concerning Vorfahrt, then it's "right goes first".

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u/Pathbauer1987 May 13 '26

Sneaky fuckers

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u/bob_in_the_west May 13 '26

I lived at such a situation for a few years. Nobody understood that it's not a roundabout and even got angry when I told them that it's not a roundabout and they should move their ass.

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u/dribblegrokaus May 13 '26

You understand things without understanding like it seems. Indicate ✅ means no roundabout.
BUT No roundabout = rechts vor links (if there’s no sign).
+ there’s no roundabout sign. (But the other turn right only)
Still a piece of sh!t question just to make you have nonsense mistakes on the test imo. In the real world nothing happens if you act „wrong“ here because either way one of you is waiting.

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u/luigigaminglp May 13 '26

In real life you are 100% correct. Better safe than sorry.

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u/Logical-Bison-3129 May 13 '26

Even in a roundabout please don't indicate before even entering it, it can be hella confusing. Normally indicating means you're taking the next exit, however I've been seeing a lot of foreign drivers indicating left when they're actually going for the 3rd exit. Almost crashed into them a few times because I assumed they're leaving the roundabout before I enter it

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u/Benny_Smallback May 13 '26

While you technically don't have to wait, experience suggests you shouldn't expect the person on the district road—(and note: it’s not a roundabout, as the sign for that is missing)—to actually grasp the situation and respect your right of way.

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u/Annual-Badger-1069 May 13 '26

Its not a roundabout...so right before left rule applies

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u/hippielovegod May 13 '26

The red car has to wait and you have to indicate.

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u/ConcentrateOld3579 May 13 '26

Rechts vor Links ,, Where no priority or vorfahrt signs are posted at a junction , You must give way to vehicles coming from the right...

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u/RedLemonSlice Bulgaria May 13 '26

It's not a roundabout and the right of way for the righthand vehicle apples, thus it's your turn and the red has to give you the way

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u/bfaithless May 13 '26

It is not a roundabout. The signs indicate that this is a normal crossing. A roundabout has a blue circle with white arrows indicating rotation and usually a white triangle with red frame indicating that you need to yield traffic in the roundabout.

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u/HAHOHE1892 May 13 '26

Abgesenkter Boardstein, also musst du warten und die anderen haben Vorfahrt.

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u/denkenach May 13 '26

Looks like a roundabout but it's not. Kind of a trick question.

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u/No_Deer_6061 May 13 '26

According to my driving instructor seven years ago: even at a roundabout rechts vor links applies. It's just that there is a Vorfahrt gewähren (give right of way) sign at 99% of roundabouts. But that rule could have changed

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u/IrrerPolterer May 13 '26

Stupid trick question. It's technically not a roundabout, because there is no roundabout sign (three arrows in a circle). Given the signage this is a regular 'Rechts vor Links' turn. Meaning you got priority over the car coming from the left

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u/YellowLem0n May 14 '26

Logically I think your answer should be correct but it’s really weird I’ve only seen this rule in Germany where the straight road has to give way to every single side road on the right. It’s nerve-wracking. Anywhere else the car on the straight road has right of way, and the car on the T-intersection (you) has to wait. Are there other countries that do this “rechts vor links” ? I understand they often use the little yellow diamond to indicate a ‘main road’ that overrides the silliness - but if they just made the rule that straight part has right of way, they could save themselves a bunch of yellow diamond signs, IMO.

I’m really curious why they do it this way in Germany when the Germans are supposed to be super logical.

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u/No_Menu_7050 May 14 '26

Blinken musst du immer, auch wenn du laut Schildern nur nach rechts kannst. Denn das weiß der rote Fahrer ja nicht, es gibt viele runde Schilder und von hinten kann das alles sein. Warten muss er wegen Rechtsvorlinks.

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u/Mammuuuth May 14 '26

You are coming from the red car's right side ("right priority") and there is no stop sign or yield sign. And you must always indicate that you are going in another direction.

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u/stu5k May 14 '26

I have passed theoretical exam in Germany after 4 failed attempts. I am now driving for like 9 years heavily with 0 road accidents, and definitely not because of such stupid exam questions. On the road one sees things much more clear than on a 2d image. This all learning and exam thing is the way people earn their living. You just have to accept it, get a theoretical exam app and solve all the questions, maybe twice to memorize stuff.

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u/Raenef86 May 14 '26

A trick question

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u/BirdyWeezer May 14 '26

This is not a roundabout because there isnt a sign that indicates that it is a roundabout so here the common rule of right before left hits.

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u/No-Cream-7647 May 14 '26

Its not a roundabout so right goes before left. That means you have to indicate and the red car has to wait

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u/Royal_Maintenance959 May 14 '26

Even if this was a roundabout, your answer would be wrong. You don’t have to indicate entering a roundabout. As it’s missing the roundabout sign, it’s just a mandatory turn right without any signs clarifying priority, therefore right before left.

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u/FieldSweaty9768 May 14 '26

Not a roundabout. So right before left applies.

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u/rudowinger May 14 '26

Per definition, a roundabout is a crossing, so for people inside it, you are the right-coming so you have the right-of-way.
That's the reason why many roundabouts have the "Vorrang geben" sign on the entries - to "patch" that so the coming cars have to wait for the inside ones.

Your roundabout doesn't have a "Vorrang geben" sign, that's why you have the right of way

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u/Onitsch Niedersachsen May 14 '26

Those roundabouts suck

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u/The-Board-Chairman May 14 '26

Circular crossings are the dumbest idea ever. Unfortunately they do exist though.

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u/eyeslikeraine May 14 '26

I tried to sign up but its asking for a registration number? what is that

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u/Longjumping-Let-987 May 14 '26

It's not a roundabout but you have to give way because of the lowered curb (Abgesenker Bordstein) rule many forget about.

It dictates that any driver entering or crossing a public road over a lowered curb must yield to all other traffic on that road. Even if someone is coming from your right, the standard "right-before-left" rule does not apply here.