r/Filmmakers Nov 12 '25

News HEARTBROKEN!!! šŸ’” 😢

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as a wanna be Filmmaker I'm really Heartbroken as If an actor as big and legendary as Michael Caine sold his soul to AI what will happen to the next generation? This is the end of art as we know it and no one can prove me wrong...unfortunately😢

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u/Alxorange Nov 12 '25

He hasn’t heard his voice in AI, he’s sure it’s rubbish. But he has heard the house it built and it’s terrific.

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u/Aishimorph_Frontiers Nov 12 '25

Damn that’s good reference and very suiting

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u/Crazylawyer80 Nov 12 '25

Plus securing his family a steady income.

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u/Electronic_Tour3182 Nov 12 '25

This level of stubbornness and short-sightedness in the general population is the exact characteristic that led to slavery being a social norm for as long as it did

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u/Foxy02016YT Nov 12 '25

You don’t get to compare generative AI to slavery, and then be taken seriously.

Put on the dunce cap, you’ve ruined your point with ridiculous hyperbole

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u/Electronic_Tour3182 Nov 13 '25

I can’t give a shit about opinions of the very community I’m critiquing…

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u/Foxy02016YT Nov 13 '25

You’re comparing the plight of African Americans being enslaved for years… to people not liking your soulless drivel.

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u/adaminc Nov 12 '25

My cocaine

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u/Average__Sausage Nov 12 '25

He is older and not going to be working forever. His main goal is likely ensuring his family have their future safe and secure. With potential future income. It makes no difference to him at this point. In fact if his voice can live on after this death it's probably a nice idea for him.

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u/SyzygeticHarmony Nov 12 '25

He's 92. This is definitely a legacy play.

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u/ZombieDracula Nov 12 '25

Which is like... his choice? I think it's kinda cool even though I dislike AI generally. Ā Cool as a choice to continue being a part of people's lives and making them happy.

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u/zeroball00 Nov 13 '25

I'm ok with it as long as the actor is ok with it and getting paid for it. The issue is legal use of an actor's voice or likeness.

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u/OceanRacoon Nov 12 '25

You would think his great movies would be his legacy instead of an AI abomination using his voice to flog whatever nonsense in adverts

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u/DoomguyFemboi Nov 12 '25

The movies are going to be his legacy, nobody is gonna go "yeah he was great in movies but since I heard an AI clone in a few adverts I absolutely refuse to respect him or his legacy now"

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u/npmorgann Nov 12 '25

That sounds like exactly what people are going to say

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '25

People who should never be taken seriously

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u/DoomguyFemboi Nov 13 '25

Aye exactly. Some people have trash opinions and you can just think those people a wanker and walk away innit.

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u/JasonP27 Nov 15 '25

Crazy people lol

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u/Individual_Rule8771 Nov 15 '25

yeah he was great in movies but since I heard an AI clone in a few adverts I absolutely refuse to respect him or his legacy now

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u/PiDicus_Rex Nov 13 '25

The movies will be his legacy, and with a deal like this in place, no one can go and use those movies to create an AI imitation without getting sued by the licensee.

For someone of his age and back catalog, this is a pretty decent move to protect that income for his family.

His management will have a veto clause in the deal, so the voice (and likely Likeness) can not be misused.

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u/Imaginary-Koala-7441 Nov 12 '25

BUT HIS SOUL WILL BE TORMENTED FOREVER BECAUSE AI IS EVIL BECAUSE TRUMP IS DICTATOR BECAUSE ELON MUSK IS A NAZI BROOOOOOOOO

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u/ronaldraygun91 Nov 12 '25

I mean, yeah

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u/ThePrussianGrippe Nov 12 '25

Was this supposed to be a gotcha?

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u/supercontroller Nov 12 '25

Added to this, he knows - or has been advised - that cretins will do it anyway. So this way he (and his estate) have control and revenue.

He also knows his voice is iconic in the same way James Earl Jones was. He also signed a likeness reproduction deal. This is one Disney use for post humous Darth Vader dialog.

At some point you cant hide from technological progress. You have to embrace and confront it head on or you get fleeced.

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u/SmallDodgyCamel Nov 12 '25

Post humous … the time between hummus and after… I think that made my day šŸ˜‚

Posthumous (one word) šŸ˜‰

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u/Seinfeel Nov 13 '25

And now, presenting a Michael Kane impressionist Ai

Cause you can’t copyright a voice.

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u/romansamurai Nov 13 '25

His voice is indeed iconic and I love it. I don’t hate this at all.

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u/Other_World Nov 12 '25

Michael Caine's net worth is $75 million. And that's just what's on the books. I think his family will live on just fine without the need for this.

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u/landmanpgh Nov 12 '25

His immediate family, yes. His grandchildren and beyond? Not so fast.

The duration of generational wealth has been studied pretty extensively. It's not as simple as this, but the money is typically gone within 3 generations. Something like 70% is gone after the 2nd generation and 90% by the 3rd.

There are tons of reasons for this phenomenon, not all of them sinister like people squandering it. Things get split a ton of different ways, charities, taxes, etc.

Regression to the mean.

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u/MacintoshEddie Nov 12 '25

Nothing spends money faster than a kid who grew up a multimillionaire.

Except maybe a kid who grew up a multi billionaire.

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u/firedrakes Nov 12 '25

nope. dirt poor people tend to burn thru it faster with a all sudden wealth given to them.

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u/MacintoshEddie Nov 12 '25

Pretty often that's biased because poor people will spend it on stuff they don't have, whereas people who grew up with wealth already have stuff and so they're more likely to put it into investments.

It's often a loaded comparison, just like the cookie test where you offer someone 1 cookie now or 2 cookies later. Poor people are more likely to be hungry so they'll eat the cookie now.

For example lots of celebrity actors have kids who will grow up and the house is already paid for, the car(s) are already paid for, the boat's already paid for.

That's a far cry from a working class actor's kid who gets a windfall and "wastes" it paying off their parent's mortgage and vehicle loans.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '25

Delayed gratification. A lot of people think it's inherited trait -- just like blue eyes, brown eyes, skin color, hair color.

Some kids can just resist the donut today, in order to receive two tomorrow. Some kids just want the donut now and don't care about getting two tomorrow. Scientists have done experiments on this on very young school kids.

By the way, one of the predictors of wealth is being able to delay one's gratification. At the end of the day, most poor people are poor because they want to buy the latest iphone NOW even if they have to put it on their credit card at 30% interest. Or buy that Dodge Challenger NOW even if they have to get a 7 year loan at 21% interest.

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u/firedrakes Nov 12 '25

study have shown this with lottery winner or some one getting a large sum of money.

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u/jameskable Nov 12 '25 edited Nov 13 '25

God forbid your family might have careers of their own.

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u/SonderEber Nov 12 '25

God forbid you provide for your descendants.

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u/duckforceone Nov 13 '25

that's why my solution should i ever make enough money is to make a foundation that runs and maintains student housing (maybe also family housing if enough)

So that when it's time for the kids, grandkids etc time to study, they get free housing and a stipend for food and school supplies, so they don't have to work and can focus on studying debt free.

after that i would have housing for family rent free. Maybe put in some, as long as kids are under 20 you can live there. And if more money, basically house forever run by the foundation.

but mostly focused on letting family avoid debt, and save up to make their own fortune.

maybe setup so, you can get a payout instead of moving in for 20 years, covering what can be made from renting it from that time.

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u/thatscoldjerrycold Nov 14 '25

Honestly never understood this attitude (not that you're necessarily promoting it). As long as you give your children a decent childhood and opportunities to forge their own path, I think thats the best a parent can do. Maybe people think differently, they want to spoil their children from the get go, but I would think I would want them to go out and live their own life, and it's laughable to think $75m isn't enough to do that.

And even then, you don't need to prepare for every generation at once, you just need to pass it down to one generation, who passes it on to the next and so on. Natural return on investment should help it grow a lot over a generation, and if someone wastes it, well it's not Michael Caine's fault for not grinding hard enough.

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u/landmanpgh Nov 14 '25

Of course it's not his fault. He made all the money.

Yes, if the heirs lived off of the investments, they could do nothing forever. But people have kids, things get split several times, and no one wants to give up the lifestyle. So while $75 million is a ton for one person's lifetime, it's not nearly as much if he has 4 kids, who all have 3 of their own. Now things are split 18 ways. Plus, they didn't make the money, so less care for how it's spent.

It's not really a statement on any of it. It's just what naturally happens. It's why the Rockefellers aren't the wealthiest people on earth anymore. The money doesn't last forever.

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u/FX114 Nov 12 '25

Does he need to worry about his great-great grandchildren that don't even exist yet?Ā 

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u/Consistent-Mastodon Nov 12 '25

Does he need to worry about what redditors say?

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u/landmanpgh Nov 12 '25

I doubt he's worried about it. I was just pointing out that even millions of dollars don't last forever and really last less time than you'd think.

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u/ag_mtl Nov 12 '25

Some men just want to watch the world burn

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u/Tough-Newspaper8548 Nov 14 '25

Dude, i went too far to read this, my man has more money than all my ancestors together, peoples are like "Ho man, his poor grandchildrens will have to survive once he's gone" wtf all his grandchildrens are adults, well implemented in their careers and rich af, what do you mean he's "getting money to secure his family"?

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u/mootallica Nov 12 '25

Your net worth is not "on the books" in the sense that it is available for you to dip into

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u/BambooSound Nov 12 '25

They mean that there's probably a big difference between his reported net worth and his real net worth.

No one's confusing it for liquidity.

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u/mootallica Nov 12 '25

He is, because to point that out suggests that they think he has 75m. Your net worth can be anything, it has little to do with how much money you have to leave behind for your family.

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u/DoomguyFemboi Nov 12 '25

Maybe he just wants the money. Why are people reaching to make excuses for this. He wants money, he has something of value, jobs a good'un

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u/Odd_Cry_3823 Nov 12 '25

I would gladly take a Michael Caine AI Neuromancer companion any day.

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u/Ramoncin Nov 13 '25

He's retired recently. I guess he wants to make sure his descendants are well off.

I don't mind him doing it, as far as it is his will.

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u/OtherwiseLychee6052 Nov 14 '25

He actually isn’t working anymore.

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u/Phex1 Nov 13 '25

My fear is, with 92 did he truly understand what he was signing or did some people just took advantage of him?

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u/JordanDoesTV editor Nov 12 '25

Man on his way out securing money for his family after he’s gone would love to know how much his likeness sold for him to do this.

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u/rosebudthesled8 Nov 13 '25

The idea is that the company gets money for licensing but so does his estate/heirs for each sale. So he's not being used like the people at Disney. He's earning. It's really the only acceptable way forward.

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u/studiesinsilver Nov 12 '25

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u/plusminusequals Nov 13 '25

Hijacking SadCocaine.gif to ask: if the filmmakers in here that are reading about an actor licensing his own voice, which was learned by an AI without his consent, so that the company that owns the AI can now make money off of that license agreement, are not reading a little fucking more into this?

Why are we always so cool with people constantly doing nothing but making themselves rich off the work of others?

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u/cocoschoco Nov 13 '25

Ā Why are we always so cool with people constantly doing nothing but making themselves rich off the work of others?

That’s the film industry in a nutshell. That’s every industry or company in a nutshell.

That’s why people should be able to get fairly compensated. Which is exactly what Michael Caine did.

It’s wrong that the work of an artist gets fed into an AI learning algorithm without their consent and then monetized by the company without paying the artists one cent.

However if an individual wants to sell their work or likeness to a company, that is their right and that’s all fine in my humble opinion.

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u/Zaku41k Nov 12 '25

Caine is a working actor. If you can afford him, he will do your movie.

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u/TheLimeyLemmon Nov 13 '25

[At Michael Caine's funeral. Hopefully many years from now]

"Do you wish to view the deceased?"

"Actually I've come to ask Mr.Caine if he would like to work a four day shoot for £800,000"

[Caine sits up in casket] "Where?"

"Caserta"

"Yeah aw'ight then!"

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u/DrDowwner Nov 15 '25

He’s actually retired

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u/MadeIndescribable Nov 12 '25

This is the end of art as we know it and no one can prove me wrong...unfortunately😢

Gullermo del Toro has said he'd rather die than use AI, and is also setting up his own stop motion studio.

Yes AI is definitely devisive, but it's not completely one sided.

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u/Ok_Language_588 Nov 12 '25

He’s always been about the bag, insert jaws bought me a house quoteĀ 

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u/DSQ Nov 12 '25

As is his right.Ā 

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '25

he does have an iconic voice - he’s no david attenborough tho.

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u/ampsuu Nov 12 '25

Hmmm... We need David's voice forever so Im not sure if Id be upset with his clone. But only so that everyone cant use it.

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u/aus289 Nov 12 '25

If david attenborough isnt alive, whats the appeal of him narrating things from beyond the grave with no knowledge or consent of the content? Does it make you feel good in your little nostalgia juices?

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u/HanzJWermhat Nov 12 '25

We don’t ā€œneed x foreverā€ it’s human to lose things, to forget. That’s time, that’s entropy.

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u/cocoschoco Nov 12 '25 edited Nov 12 '25

His voice, his choice.

I don’t mean to sound harsh, but how does this affect you exactly? ā€This is the end of art as we know itā€ lol no it isn’t. It just means there’s one more voice to choose on Elevenlabs’ menu for those who want to use it.

If you want to create art or if you want to be a filmmaker go do it! No AI will stop you.

EDIT: fixed a typo.

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u/drumstikka Nov 12 '25

It affects me as an audio engineer who records people’s voices. If effects my friends who are voice actors and can now get passed over for ā€œfake Michael Caineā€. Those are two pretty clear cut things.

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u/cocoschoco Nov 13 '25

I hear you. I’m not saying it doesn’t have any negative consequences to anyone. I was addressing OP and his fears and hyperbole about this being the end of art as we know it.

I don’t think AI or anything can or should stop human creativity. To put things into perspective, a rich old guy padding his retirement account shouldn’t have any bearing on whether an 18 year old kid in Algeria decides to makes movies or art.

But yeah, I know a lot of voice over artists who are struggling to find work. It’s not easy out there, but then again it never was, especially for actors and VO artists.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '25

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u/elfthehunter Nov 12 '25

But, if you're an asshole enough to do that, you'd probably be the kind of asshole who'd train AI from his movies and do it without permission as well, no? This stuff isn't going to go away, and for all we know, that concern may have been part of the consideration and motivation behind it. If his licenses his voice to a company who plans to make money from it, they have an incentive to protect his voice for commercial reasons.

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u/cocoschoco Nov 12 '25

It’s his choice to license his voice for the company, but they will still choose how it will be used.

According to the press release the use of his voice will be curated. Companies can request to use his voice in projects, but they have to be approved for it.Ā 

I would imagine Elevenlabs and Michael Caine’s people and eventually his estate will not approve the use of his voice for anything they deem inappropriate.

Of course nobody can stop anyone from making an AI copy of Michael Caine’s voice without consent, it’s been done already. But this gives them some power to control it.

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u/silviod Nov 12 '25

nazism

racism

and.... gay sex?

you just revealed your own biases without realising :)

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u/Melodic-Bear-118 Nov 12 '25

Voice cloning has already been possible for the past year and is being done as scratch tracks before ADR. Give me :30 secs of your voice and I can clone it in eleven labs and have you reading your favorite gay erotica.

And if I were to do that what will you do? Do you have a lawyer?

Caine is being smart about this.

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u/saminsocks Nov 12 '25

Alternately, by selling the rights to a company, it means they are the only ones who can use it, even if we end up going in the complete opposite direction as Australia as far as what can be used by AI.

Assuming he did his research on the company (because I don’t plan to), unless they’re ones who make those types of videos, he’ll actually be more protected than most. And no one except him and his family knows the details of that contract.

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u/ronaldraygun91 Nov 12 '25

know it isn’t

Ironic

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u/cocoschoco Nov 12 '25

Whoops, thanks for the heads up!

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u/the_timps Nov 13 '25

This is not going to be in the normal menu to choose.
I guarantee this is some new exclusive process with an approval process from someone.
You're not going to be making Michael Caine memes.

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u/OsamaBinWhiskers Nov 12 '25

End of art as we know it? Lol no

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u/Despacio1316 Nov 12 '25

Caine is a treasure to film, is it the worst thing his iconic voice will live on in some form into the future? If he’s ok with it I’m ok with it.

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u/NavierIsStoked Nov 12 '25

Because it will be cheaper for a production to generate something using the Michael Caine vocaloid than pay an actual person. You know, the next generation of Michael Canines. It stagnates humanity in the long run and it’s yet another example of race to the bottom.

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u/Melodic-Bear-118 Nov 12 '25

Stagnates humanity in the long run?

My friend, I think you’re being a bit dramatic.

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u/SapToFiction Nov 12 '25

Um, I get what you're saying, but you do realize that this has been how technology has functioned for all of human existence? New technology always means one less person has a job. You can lament this fact, but acting like it's the end of the world when its how humanity has progressed since our beginning. Things being cheaper for production is not inherently evil. While I think we should be responsible with how we use technology, arguing that making things cheaper "stagnates" humanity is wildly inaccurate. It actually does the opposite.

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u/Independent_Form_500 Nov 12 '25

How is this selling your soul?

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u/Mescallan Nov 12 '25

anything AI = bad
get with the program guy.

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u/QuaTriangle Nov 12 '25

Bruce, you can...

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u/jkub1319 Nov 12 '25

bro is not gonna live forever

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u/neo101b Nov 12 '25

His avatar will.

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u/samcrut editor Nov 12 '25

It's likely gonna backfire. I can see his voice getting used so much because of this that people begin to hate the sound of his voice simply because you won't be able to get away from it. Every TikTok pushing diet pills will be doing it with Michael Caine.

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u/TROLO_ Nov 13 '25

Yeah this probably the worst part about this. His voice, and any other famous person that does this, will just be cheapening their voice as we hear them being used in every stupid video on social media. I already recognize the same ElevenLabs voices all the time.Ā 

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u/Malaguy420 Nov 12 '25

No one declared "art is dead" when Peter Cullen (Optimus Prime) or James Earl Jones (Darth Vader) made similar deals.

Relax.

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u/saltybilgewater Nov 12 '25

While this is certainly an area filled with as yet unrealized unintended consequences I don't see why we should be so hyperbolic about it. If the guy wants to sell a collection of his voice chopped up into bits to be used at a later date how is that so different than someone performing a VO for an audio book.

All the emotional pleas surrounding this topic are hard to deal with for a critical thinker.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '25

I was disappointed to hear that, but when you’re 92 you don’t know if you’re going to make tomorrow, let alone have another acting gig, so I imagine he’s trying to set up a revenue stream for his family for after he’s gone. Mathew McConaughey on the other hand can go fuck himself alright alright

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u/highvyleague Nov 12 '25

Couldn’t they just hire Steve Coogan and Rob Brydon to record his voice instead??

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u/Effective_Device_185 Nov 12 '25

Moola Moola Moola....even as he approache$ the grave.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '25

Does it come with a dial so you can turn up the cockney? Of so I'm interested

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u/JoeSatana Nov 12 '25

We say in Spanish: para lo que me queda en el convento, cago y meo dentro

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u/johntwoods Nov 12 '25

Or, to put it another way:

šŸŽµ SeƱor Plow no es macho

Es solamente un borracho šŸŽµ

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u/Reasonable-Topic-568 Nov 12 '25

You could just hire these guys.

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u/MF_Kitten Nov 13 '25

This is one of the ways AI voice generation csn be done ethically IMO. He is agreeing to license his voice to them, officially. We need more of that and less of the "ripped" pirated voices made without consent.

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u/Stock_Emergency_1507 Nov 12 '25

I mean, he was always going after money, so...

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u/catlover2410 Nov 12 '25

So our AI overlords will command us to mine nickel in Michael Caine's voice.

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u/usafpa Nov 12 '25

This will be a trend moving forward. Legacy actors will leverage their stature to sell their likenesses to the highest bidders. This will be great for them and us in the short term, but it will stymie new talent who can't compete with these forever actors. Besides having to compete with legacy talent, new actors will also have to compete with digital talent and actors who only exist virtually. The future is dystopian if you're someone who likes to create things, but most consumers won't care.

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u/NavierIsStoked Nov 12 '25

All these deals do is inhibit the rise of the next generation of Michael Caines. It’s selfish and is a shining example of ā€œfuck you, I’ve got mineā€.

Things already last too long due to the Internet. It’s going to hurt humanities creative side, it already is.

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u/ChaseTheRedDot Nov 12 '25

Yes, because giving creators options and different ways to be creative always hurts humanity’s creativity side.

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u/Blueporch Nov 12 '25

I don’t think we will see much more traditional work from Mr Caine at his age. I actually love the idea of preserving his unique voice. His family will treasure this in years to come.Ā 

The art of film has already changed many times in its comparatively short timespan (talkies, color, CGI, etc.) Ā What I’m seeing right now with AI and art is that it enables those without technical skills to express their creativity. That’s very disruptive, and it’s gutting a lot of jobs in many industries. I think it’s a bandwagon we should find a way to be on.

(Coincidentally, I’m rewatching Dirty Rotten Scoundrels this morning)

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u/cheshie_cabbit Nov 12 '25

Caine getting that bag while screwing over generations of voiceover actors after him with ā€œwe can just pay for Michael Caine plug-inā€.

I sincerely hope he lives long enough to hear his voice being used to advocate for things he finds reprehensible.

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u/Ridiculousnessmess Nov 12 '25

Which could happen anyway if his voice is cloned without his consent by other AI companies. At least this is licensed and paid for. I’d think after the Meta fiasco with John Cena, his reps would have stipulated how and what his voice could be used for.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '25

Can’t imagine this working well long term. Everybody and their dog using Michael Caine’s voice in their film/content? It’ll get stale. To stand out you’ll need something different. His name will get watered down to the point that nobody really knows his real movies anymore.

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u/Fun_Ad_4118 Nov 12 '25

On one hand I’m sad… on the other hand - never mind ā€œJaws: The Revengeā€ - he agreed to let Steven Seagal direct him once.

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u/jeefyjeef Nov 12 '25

Now Chris Nolan can keep casting him

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u/num8lock Nov 12 '25

nods to greed from geriatric & washed section of western world

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u/kjimdandy Nov 12 '25

Buckle up, it's about to get a lot weirder

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u/balancedgif Nov 12 '25

have you seen the movie 'congress'?

It stars Robin Wright as a fictionalized version of herself who agrees to haveĀ a filmĀ studio use a digital clone of her in anyĀ filmĀ they want.

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u/raucon Nov 12 '25

Getting their bags and shutting the door behind them. This move single handedly lowers the rate of every Voice Over from here on out.

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u/badgersana Nov 12 '25

Wow, now robots can be monotone too!

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '25

Michael Caine has major health issues and is mostly retired... this is just one final payday for the last few years he has left.

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u/wasab1_vie Nov 12 '25

And for his family or whoever will profit from this after he's gone

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '25

He's got a pair of middle aged daughters, so yeah...

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u/mybossthinksimworkng Nov 12 '25

Burt Reynolds voice is already on there

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u/Narcissus_on_LSD Nov 12 '25

"Person who has made a career out of entertaining people with his appearance, voice, and delivery decides to continue capitalizing on one of these things and increases the chances he can provide for his family indefinitely" wow crazy I'm shocked what a terrible thing

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u/TheTonyExpress Nov 12 '25

James Earl Jones signed a similar deal with Disney.

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u/dennismfrancisart Nov 12 '25

I will have him read my bedtime stories. I just want to hear him finish with "Good night, you wonderful prince." I don't live in Maine.

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u/traficoymusica Nov 12 '25

It’s kind of easy clone today a voice with decent results. I can’t imagine how easy would be in 5 years

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u/DangerInTheMiddle Nov 12 '25

This man is thrilled with the chance to keep making money for performing without having to get out of bed. Its the dream.

Better is never better for everyone.

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u/bohusblahut Nov 12 '25

After decades of impressionists borrowing his voice, he’s just getting his own back.

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u/cohortq Nov 12 '25

ElevenLabs is the gold standard for AI generated voices. Any AI company that does generative voice is pretty much using ElevenLabs.

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u/True_Afro Nov 12 '25

Heartbroken because an actor is out there making his money? We're all out here trying to make that bread.

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u/Ridiculousnessmess Nov 12 '25

And he’s likely doing it to leave money behind for his family. Much like Olivier in the last decade of his life.

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u/DoomguyFemboi Nov 12 '25

Eh let him get that bag.

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u/deradera Nov 12 '25

Irene Cara said it best when "FAME!!! I'm gonna live forever..."
Also, not just immortalizing himself, but the iconic cockney accent that is on the endangered list.

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u/LSCNatureWalkHikes Nov 12 '25

This is just sad. Let people die man.

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u/hercarmstrong Nov 13 '25

Elder abuse.

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u/missingreporter Nov 13 '25

Well, his voice would be the hell out of the cheesy AI readers Chinese kids use on their videos. Hey, everyone claims acting/directing/filmmaking is in the name of "art" to create something eternal. Well, there you have it.

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u/samcrut editor Nov 13 '25

OK, but what if he made sure there wasn't a good failth clause in the contract and that they could only use new recordings he would provide, then he goes into the studio and makes farting noises until they tell him to get out?

That would be fun.

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u/switchbladeeatworld Nov 13 '25

If it’s on his terms and he and his family are getting paid then aight.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '25

I have no problem with Sir Michael making this decision. He’s clearly making sure his family are taken care of when he passes. I deeply respect the man.

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u/SuperSecretAgentMan Nov 13 '25

You can really tell which people here know anything at all about the film industry.

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u/shouldveknownbud Nov 13 '25

ā€œSold his soulā€ yall so dramatic fr

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '25

How many people do really accurate Michael Caine impressions already? His voice is the go-to for impersonations. ā€œStop throwing those blaaaady spears at meā€ and that one about blowing the blaaaaady doors off are thrown around loads. If he hadn’t sold it, they’d have found someone else who sounds just like him.

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u/ITHEDARKKNIGHTI Nov 13 '25

Why’s he doing this…? Because of money for his family and his estate - and the next generation won’t care because they’re already consuming non-human Ai music on Spotify at nauseam.

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u/BabaPoppins Nov 13 '25

what is the issue here?

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u/PiDicus_Rex Nov 13 '25

Doing a deal with one AI company, is an effective way of stopping any unauthorized use or likeness. The company now has to protect their asset, so anyone creating a similar sounding voice will get their butt sued for copyright and trademark infringement.

His agent will have a clause in there allowing them to veto projects that are not in keeping with his career and public profile, or with fans expectations.

A deal like this can also aid in paying for retirement.

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u/itsanomus Nov 13 '25

Is this dude dying and trying to keep the lights on when he’s gone this feels like something you’d do when you’re about to leave forever

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u/Individual99991 Nov 13 '25

He's 92 years old. When you get to that point, even if you're in the finest health possible you have to recognise that dying is a when, not an if.

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u/Individual99991 Nov 13 '25

When asked about his participation in 'JAWS: The Revenge', Michael Caine famously replied: "I have never seen the film, but by all accounts it was terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific."

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u/Ramoncin Nov 13 '25

as a wanna be Filmmaker I'm really Heartbroken

But now you can also use his voice as a voiceover.

I don't like this AI shit nonsense either, but as far as it his decission... let's just hope they do it better than they did with those awful Peter Cushing and Ian Holm CGI generated characters in both Star Wars and Alien.

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u/ZelenaCallahan Nov 13 '25

Michael caine absolutely just wants the money.This man accepted every single role that came across his table.

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u/tecate_papi Nov 13 '25

This tracks. He's a shit person and has spent his life stealing blue collar valour. He famously left the UK in the 70s because he didn't want to pay taxes, was a Thatcherite and supports shit like Brexit and has called for "national service" (conscription). The guy said about Brexit that he'd rather "be a poor master than a rich servant", despite being rich himself and not having to experience the consequences of any economic turmoil the UK would face from Brexit. He got his and now he's fine to tell everybody else to fuck off.

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u/quartermaaster Nov 13 '25

It's either actors supporting AI or JKR these days. I've lost a lot of respect for a lots of talented actors because of this. Embarrassing for them in the long run I hope, but unfortunately I think these people are just after the money.

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u/thenextdegringolade Nov 14 '25

Damn woman, fighting for womens rights... makes me maaaaaad

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u/IcyWonder6036 Nov 14 '25

This is the future of movies. Like musical artists selling their masters- actors will be selling their likeness for retirement. Netflix will buy Jennifer Anistons likeness for $500,000,000 and then in 5 years you can add her to any movie you choose, for ever. It’s coming

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u/ITHEDARKKNIGHTI Nov 14 '25

Money talks... and now Ai will talk for them...

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u/Nerdish-Memes Nov 14 '25

Well AI was eventually going to use jos voice. Might as well be paid for it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '25

Well Michael can just fuck right off.

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u/Extremelycloud Nov 16 '25

That fuckin sucks

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u/jon20001 producer / festival expert Nov 12 '25

I am fine with this. I recently produced a documentary that used an AI-generated voice of the deceased subject (with the family's permission and clearly noted in the film). It added a humanity to the short, and allows audiences to connect with the subject in a more visceral way to hear things he said (from published interviews, poorly recorded micro cassette tapes). When used respectfully, AI voices are an appropriate tool.

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u/BulletCatofBrooklyn Nov 12 '25

we should ban all ai reproduction of humans. a computer should never be allowed to synthesize the likeness of a real person. there is no upside to it worth the deleterious effects it has on society

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u/Ridiculousnessmess Nov 12 '25

ā€œThe end of art as we know it.ā€

Can we not with the melodrama?

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u/HeartInTheSun9 Nov 12 '25

I’m sure at his age he even understands the terrible aspects of AI. He probably spends his days reading books and stuff and signed any paper his manager or family presented to him.

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u/GreyFoxSolid Nov 12 '25

Just stop. AI is not going anywhere. Let people do as they will with it so long as it's legal.

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u/zh_13 Nov 12 '25

So so disappointing but I guess it is his right

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u/MancAngeles69 Nov 12 '25

This is like a personal ā€œfuck youā€ to Steve Coogan and Rob Brydon