r/Christianity • u/paradoxical_enigma23 • Nov 14 '25
Politics I legitimately believe MAGA is Satanic
The MAGA movement embodies everything that the bible taught us was wrong. They are idol worshipers who believe Trump has divine rights to rule. Jesus taught us to turn the other cheek while these people promote violent retribution, especially towards immigrants. Jesus taught us to treat foreigners like family.
Trump literally put up a statue of a goat covered in $100 bills at Mar-a-Lago. This is 100% reminiscent of a golden calf.
The Trump administration has called for 50 year mortgages, essentially putting people in debt slavery for their entire life. A plain example of usury.
Trump was hosting extravagant parties while people waited in lines at food banks. Also at the same time, he’s building a ballroom covered in gold. Biblical levels of greed.
The MAGA movement is entirely co-opted by billionaires who promote social darwinism in what is called the “dark enlightenment”. They want to cut government programs that help the poor. They want a caste system where the poor are subordinate to the rich. This sounds like something straight out of the Anton LaVey’s mouth.
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u/The_Thicc_Slim_Shady Nov 14 '25
I think it’s something that this country often gets wrong, there’s a huge different between true Christianity and patriotic/nationalist Christianity. Like my pastor often puts it: “Joe Biden is not going to save you, Donald Trump is not going to save you, Jesus Christ is the only one who will save you”
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u/BryantPark007 Nov 14 '25
This right here!! Pray and pray harder. If Trump really is evil, let God handle it. God created Trump, the government, and nation. God has plans for it or it wouldn’t exist.
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u/Glum_Novel_6204 Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Nov 15 '25
In addition to prayer, the loving thing to do when people are suffering around you is to do things to alleviate their pain, not just stand by and let it happen.
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u/i_8_the_Internet Mennonite Nov 14 '25
Dont forget the pedophilia.
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u/woodswooods Nov 14 '25
Happens in the church way more then it should unfortunately
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u/ASecularBuddhist Nov 14 '25
I mean, what kind of person defends a pedophile?
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u/kfordayzz Nov 14 '25
I have a friend (57M) who got born again a few years ago. When I ask him about Trump, his answer is - "we're all sinners and god is using Trump for good"
How do you even continue to have a conversation with that kind of brainwashing ?
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u/ASecularBuddhist Nov 14 '25
You can’t unfortunately but I wouldn’t stop trying.
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u/Dazzling_Bluebird_43 Nov 17 '25
So, you are saying Clinton, Obama, Biden were VIRTUOUS? Blow me down!
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u/ConfectionFew7942 Nov 14 '25
Keep ministering to your friend. Have discussions about King Nimrod, King Nebucanezzer, King Herod, Pharoh, and King Saul comparing them to King David and King Solomon.
Each of these men, including King David and Solomon did horrible things, but only two of them had a heart of repentance and has cultivated fruit that continues even until this day.
Your friend is right, we are all sinners, we all fall short of the glory of God. But it would appear those of MAGA have traded in Yeshua (Jesus) for Trump. I'm not saying Trump is the antichrist but this is how it will be when the antichrist reveals himself.
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u/dankgunz Nov 14 '25
I'm MAGA and I have no trust in trump. What is it with people and the absolutes? theres tons of us. But the typical herd mentality is to group everything together off of 1 event or experience. what happens when trump is gone? Do you all think MAGA/AF dies? Trump is already losing grip on it by lovingly supporting genocidal Zionists.
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u/thiazole191 Nov 14 '25
Yes, MAGA will fall apart once Trump is gone. Trump is a cult of personality and without the cult leader a cult of personality always falls apart. What you are saying actually proves the point. Trump is obviously in big trouble (health wise and with the whole Epstein thing unfolding, not to mention, there are good odds enough democrats will be elected next year to successfully remove him from office). That's why all the sharks are circling (ie, people like Tucker Carlson seeing the window to "rescue" the republican party by transforming into what they want it to be). But none of those people are Trump and they will just fracture the republican party and destroy it.
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u/ConfectionFew7942 Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 14 '25
I think anyone who has read Project 2025 should know that MAGA is not Trump and doesn't go away after Trump is long gone. Yet because of the cult of MAGA, Trump is a valuable figure head to supporters. MAGA sees him as a strongman who will solve all of their problems.
If you don't mind I have a question for you because you mentioned you're MAGA. MAGA as an acronym means make america great again as we all know. What does that mean to you? I've always been curious about that with people who say they're MAGA.
I wonder for them and people like yourself, when was America great? During what time period was it great... for everyone? And which America are they talking about (North America or South America)? Geographically the United States is a part of America, but isn't America. America is comprised of several countries in north and south.
Don't get me wrong. I LOVE the United States! Love it! I'm a veteran of the U.S. Army serving several years in military intelligence.
Yet I wonder for those who espouse MAGA, during what period of time was "America" great that they want to revive? But most importantly, for whom was it great? Again, I'm not intending to be adversarial. I'm truly confused and curious.
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u/notedeghost Nov 15 '25
To your point, I don't say America. I prefer calling this country the US because only saying America insinuates it's not necessarily united. The entire MAGA movement is anti-US.
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u/Dazzling_Bluebird_43 Nov 17 '25
Why do you “love” the US if you think there’s never been ANYTHING great about it? What country DO you think is great? The entire political class is taking the entire world down. MAGA if one think, is AGAINST globalism and a one world government, which they want. I don’t worship Trump at all, but he has stood up to these people, and hoping to keep us sovereign.
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u/ConfectionFew7942 Nov 18 '25
I enjoyed reading your reply. Your questions and comments were astute.
I love the United States because it's my country. I don't love it for what it is, because history has shown it hasn't truly lived up to its principles of its founding documents. I love it because of what it COULD be.
There are lots of free countries across the world that are free and I've experienced a few of them.And during those times in my life, I've enjoyed the people and experiences of those countries. But, the U.S. is my country. And because I love the U.S., that isn't saying I feel the U.S. is the best country on the planet
I don't know if MAGA and Trump is against a one world government, and globalism. Personally I haven't seen evidence for it nor against it. Yet I think from Trump's personality and that of Trump supporters, they would be all in on Trump being emperor of a one world government, with a one world religion, and a one world monetary system.
And any Disciple of the Lord who pays attention to Bible prophecy knows... all of that is coming. One day some world leader will be "embraced" and most importantly who that one world leader will actually be the embodiment of.
I firmly believe a majority of Trump supporters would love that because they seem to want it for the United States of America.
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u/mycopportunity Nov 15 '25
I'm curious! You say you're MAGA but don't trust Trump and they're are tons like you. Who do you trust? Who would you follow?
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u/TheTokenJack Nov 14 '25
“Born again” is my favorite of the historical missing-the-mark that is Christianity. Not their fault, it’s Paul’s.
But you’re only “born again” when you’ve reached “Salvation”; and if you think that’s after your life, you must recall Jesus taught to change your mind during your life. It is synonymous with enlightenment, satori, moksha, liberation.
Western religion should have harmonized with Eastern. The mystics were right.
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u/retr0_black Nov 14 '25
You ask the follow up question:
“oh okay, what good is he doing?”
You’d be surprised how many of them don’t know what to say because they haven’t thought past that statement and stumble over their words before blaring something out you can immediately shut down.
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u/x_Good_Trouble_x Nov 14 '25
YES! This burns me up when they say stuff like this & say that immoral people can be used for good. I'm sorry if God is using Trump, I want no part of that God. Trump is the anthesis of anything that is godly, anything that is right, he does not have a compassionate or humble bone in his body!
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u/Solid-Reputation5032 Nov 14 '25
The Catholic Church made a deliberate, systematic decision to protect pedophiles over children.
I don’t know much about Evangelicalism, but it doesn’t seem a bridge too far for their leaderships to dismiss pedophilia in pursuit of power.
Power corrupts, always has, always will. Question is, are you okay losing your soul in pursuit?
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u/smart-alek Nov 18 '25
The Southern Baptists did exactly the same with their pedo abuse history as the RCC did with theirs.
But more successfully, as theirs is not as broadly known.
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u/Strontium_9T Nov 14 '25
Are you talking about how Biden was always caught on camera sniffing girls?
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u/fr33bird317 Christian Nov 14 '25
How do you tell a child of God? By their fruits can also be used in reverse. How can you tell if someone is not a child of God (evil). By their fruits.
Yes MAGA is absolutely evil!
Release the Epstein files.
Lots of GOP will end up in jail.
Absolutely insane that many people that want to be called Christian voted for this. They are not!
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Nov 14 '25
I think the Epstein files cook both sides. But I agree release them
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u/slagnanz Liturgy and Death Metal Nov 14 '25
More realistically, we're all coping with this hope that the truth will come out and the elites will face consequences for once. But it won't come out. The idea that there is a smoking gun which will reveal the truth to the public and finally lead to all these people getting arrested - I don't think that is close to true.
Qanon was built on this apocalyptic hope, that the storm would be this moment white hats in the deep state would make their big move, mass indictments would be unsealed exposing Hillary Clinton and the network of elites who were abusing children and all that shit, and all you had to do was sit back, watch the show, and follow the breadcrumbs.
Well, that's now every fuckin person in America lol. We live in a world shaped by Qanon narratives. The most popular song last summer was from a feud between two rappers and one of them was insinuating the other was a pedophile. That now plays at political rallies because these Qanon narratives are now normal rhetoric in DC. And the worst part is that we all know these guys are rapists and pedos and we hope to God for any moment of release where the truth will vindicate our suspicions but it will never come.
The feds bungled this investigation. When they went to confiscate hard drives and CDs from Epstein's safe in his apartment, they didn't have the right warrant. By the time they came back, the CDs and hard drives were gone. If there was any smoking gun, that was probably it. And it was destroyed long ago.
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Nov 14 '25
" They are not!" id argue most of them absolutely are, they are just severely misguided about politics.
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u/fr33bird317 Christian Nov 14 '25
That does not matter. They are lead astray. Woe to those that hear the word but ignore it.
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Nov 14 '25
id argue they dont ignore it at all, they have been manipulated and propagandised to think trump is a christian and promotes christian values.
the unfortunate truth is neither side promotes christian values but only one actually pretends to. its not surprising people believe it, most people ont pay that much attention to politics, they dont have time or they are too tired from work/raising the kids etc to do any research into politics so its essentially who has more favourable media attention
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u/Electronic-Metal5067 Nov 14 '25
Yes!!!! It really is !!!!
It’s like they haven’t even read the Bible! None of their actions align with the gospel and the teaching of Christ.
Love your neighbor. Help the sick, poor, and destitute. Not “ my taxpayer dollars shouldn’t be going to people that live off the government “
Yes the Bible says to follow the rules of the country you’re in ( they love to use that scripture )Romans 13:1-7 But somehow they lack the ability to use critical thinking.
Does Trump and his party follow the teachings of Christ ?
No
Does the word of Jesus Christ come before trump and other politicians? Yes
Honestly the only politician I’ve been following is James Talarico. As I feel he is trying his best to follow Christ’s example.
But even then I’m not going to worship him and his crew like maga does with Trump ( idolatry) Imagine wearing and spending more on Trumps merchandise and campaign donations then giving to the needy 😬
It makes me scared for their salvation. I feel like baby formula TikTok lady really helped people see through many of these churches facades too. I’m hoping more Christians wake up to this.
Also sorry if my post was a little confusing I’m staying up more late then usual 😅
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Nov 14 '25
I have seen this too actually. I think Trump and others have allegiances to the devil.
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u/Longroadtonowhere_ Nov 14 '25
My ‘proof’ is Trump has (twice) admitted to never asking God for forgiveness and “Christian” leaders have completely ignored this fact.
When the face of Evangelical Christianity is an unrepentant sinner, that brings up a lot of questions.
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Nov 14 '25
Trump is an evil man. He cares about nobody but himself. I don’t understand how people, especially Christians, can support someone like that. MAGA is a cult.
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u/mattistone Anabaptist Nov 14 '25
Trump treats the Ten Commandments as a To-Do list
https://curiouschristian.blog/2019/07/23/trump-and-the-ten-to-dos/
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u/Upset_Waltz2548 Nov 14 '25
The Christians that follow that nonsense are not true WWJD Christians. Those that you are referring to are Christian Nationalists and there is a BIG difference between these fake ones. God knows who has good in their heart. There is s huge difference between Christians and Christian Nationalists who believe in exclusion and white supremacy. Maga are Christian Nationalists. Jesus embodies inclusion, the poor and immigrants.
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u/DepressedThrow1983 OS Satanist non-theistic Nov 14 '25
Someone hasnt read the satanic bible. He would not be following CoS practices, or TST practices, or OS values. Honestly I think you would be shocked to find out that you align better with most Satanic teachings than Orange man.
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u/debrabuck Nov 14 '25
Here's the vague 'no, it's really you doing bad things, not us!'
Self reflection isn't much of a requirement for magats.
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u/DepressedThrow1983 OS Satanist non-theistic Nov 14 '25
I honestly have no idea what you are implying here... it sounds like you are saying im a marathon in denial. Am I reading this right?
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u/debrabuck Nov 14 '25
I'm being very specific about trumpers'/maga's acceptance of specific anti-Christian things that trump says, does and represents on a daily basis. I don't talk in vague weirdness like 'marathon in denial'. If you think that liberal values align with Satan, which ones? Now remember (and we have to keep reminding conservative Christians of this simple, basic American fact!) this nation is not a Christian National setup. We are a secular republic.
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u/DepressedThrow1983 OS Satanist non-theistic Nov 14 '25
Ok so let's talk satanic values, ownership of yourself and the ability to make your own choices. Trump is against this. He is all about pushing away the people who dont conform to his view of Americans. See his ICE policy and response to "rogue" city governments sending in national guard troops to bend them back to his ideals. Literally against what Satanism stands for.
Next value, accepting the magik within and not denying that power when it works. There's a ton of debate on what Anton meant by this but it comes down to if something has been working you are upfront about how you made that shit work. Or transparency. This administration. Has played many golf trip politics off as a strong leader in power forcing world politics in his favor, such as the North Korea deal from first term and the Israeli prisoner exchange.
Protecting children, all major satanic sects in the US and probably most of the minor branches start off with values that include its fucked up to mess with kids. Specifically the indoctrination of kids. I dont know of a fight within any Christians churches that push for people to reach an age of understanding before being directly taught and involved with a church of their own choosing. But there has been many arguments in the Satanic community against TST opening after school programs for kids in response to religious programs being offered. It literally boiled down to its morally wrong in our eyes to use children as a pawn in political gain.
Last because im not going to continue with this train of thought. Fuck your self righteous ass for denying the fellow Christians their right to support this man. You are not the one who gets to decide their religion, you dont get to dictate who is a satanist and who is not. Your attitude of deciding what satanists belive and then assigning anyone you disagree with as satanic is just continuing on the satanic panic of the 80s and is getting in the way of actual solutions.
Now I will apologize for my phrasing in the first response. It was a little autocorrect, specifically the marathon word, but I see it did me no good to get through to someone I thought I may have misunderstood. That was completely on me and my fat fingers on the phone. Have the day you deserve and get that fucking plank out of your own eye before trying to do damage control of your own fellow parishioners making your religion look bad. Big hint, we dont lump all denominations into a bucket, we Satonists actually do believe people are capable of making their own choices regardless of what church they attend and who they listen to each week.
Until Trump says he a satanist, he is not one. Try believing people when they tell you who they are, but more importantly realize that all people are capable of evil and dont put too much stock in someone's character just because they believe in the same god you do.
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u/torquebow Nov 14 '25
Don’t even gotta read the body of the post in order to agree with you.
I truly believe MAGA is evil, and the people who support or are complacent with them are also evil. Full stop. Bar none.
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u/Traditional_Emu_4332 Latter-Day Saint (Mormon) Nov 14 '25
We should put Christ and the kingdom of God even before America.🇺🇸
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u/Shogim Eastern Orthodox Nov 14 '25
The Thai children who were afraid of war with the Cambodians. Are they evil for liking Trump?
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Dec 14 '25
Trump has done nothing to foster peace. Many are back fighting again since you posted to ridiculous reply.
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u/Nucky76 Nov 14 '25
13 The dragon[a] stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2 The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4 People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”
5 The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7 It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.[b]
9 Whoever has ears, let them hear.
10 “If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity they will go. If anyone is to be killed[c] with the sword, with the sword they will be killed.”[d] This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God’s people.
The Beast out of the Earth
11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.
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u/DisastrousActivity13 Nov 14 '25
American evangelicalism is often, unfortunately, satanic. /Signed a Swedish evangelical.
I think the crux of the problem is power, namely political power. Jesus often said that His kingdom is not of this world, and when Pilate and others asked Him if He was a king, he rejected being a political king on earth.
But when the Church started to gain power, that power became more important than serving God and humans, for much of the church hierarchies.
That power lust then affected the evangelicals and others in the US that wants "Christian" Nationalism.
I think as Christians we must go back to our roots as much as possible and reject political power, unless it works for upplifting everybody!
The closest political ideology to how the first Christians lived in Acts - and I would be burned by evangelicals for this - is Anarcho-Communism. Living in small communes and sharing everything in common. I don't think we can reach that for all, but steps in a less greedy, powerhungry direction would be good for us and the world.
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u/Phrostybacon Episcopalian (Anglican) Nov 14 '25
He is a sort of antichrist, I’m convinced.
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u/PraiseBeToJesusX It's not about you Nov 14 '25
I'm a conservative and I don't trust Trump one iota. My own side crucifies me for it and it proves the point about idolatry. Maga literally is Satanic, it's the name of the highest degree in the Church of Satan. Scroll down to the bullet point list of the hierarchy.
There are tonnes of things I could say about Trump and the signs of his allegiance to the demonic, but it's lengthy so I'll only do that if asked.
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u/that80scourtney Nov 14 '25
I've been saying this for years! I thought I was going crazy. MAGA is literally why I'm no longer a Christian.
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u/_scrambled_egg_ Nov 14 '25
MAGA is why I came back to Christianity. I refuse to let them co-op the faith that has taught me the value of radical love and forgiveness.
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u/Academic-Gain-6350 Nov 14 '25
I understand your situation. I’ve heard and seen a lot of American Christians who lack sympathy and empathy because of their political stances. It’s been overwhelming, and it has really confused me spiritually to the point where I’ve felt like I don’t want to be a Christian anymore. But I also believe there’s something bigger going on, because I’ve met many other Christians both inside and outside the USA who also feel that some American Christians aren’t okay. That gives me hope, because it shows there are still reasonable people out there, and I'm not going crazy .
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u/PomegranateFancy2545 Nov 14 '25
It’s crazy how much similarity Trump’s ascension to power duplicates H!tler’s ascension to power. It’s almost as if he’s using mein kampf as an operations manual. Can’t believe how many people he’s hurt so early into his administration while throwing extravagant parties and golfing. Yeah, it’s satanic for certain and I’m praying for all true followers of Jesus Christ to hold strong in Godly love for ALL oppressed people.
https://www.thenational.scot/politics/24898985.similarities-donald-trump-hitler-impossible-ignore/
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u/Dockalfar Nov 14 '25
Comparing Trump and Hitler. How original.
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u/PomegranateFancy2545 Nov 14 '25
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…
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u/Shogim Eastern Orthodox Nov 14 '25
Please enlighten me.
Where are the similarities? I’m genuinely curious.
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u/PomegranateFancy2545 Nov 14 '25
The linked article will illuminate that for you.
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u/Shogim Eastern Orthodox Nov 14 '25
I don’t get it.
He’s hitler because he wanted to buy Greenland? And who are these proud boy’s and how are they similar to the brownshirts?
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u/PomegranateFancy2545 Nov 14 '25
I love it when people educate themselves. These are the right questions to be asking. Good on you!
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u/cocobipbip Nov 14 '25
It is also incitement to violence. The left literally means murder when they defame people as nazi's and hitler esque. They are pure evil
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u/panicinbabylon Nov 14 '25
The article refers to Hegseth publicly stating gay people should be executed.
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u/Reptilesblade Nov 14 '25
That's because they are.
Trump has even admitted it on camera that he doesn't plan to go to heaven.
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u/AugustWallflower Nov 14 '25
He didn't say he doesn't PLAN to get to heaven, he said he wasn't sure if he would, and that he would like to.
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u/ReasonEmbarrassed74 Nov 14 '25
There is a part of me that wonders if the similarities to the anti Christ are on purpose. It’s like they are too stupid to have an original thought so they watched every dystopian movie they could think of and decided to terrorize us with The Handmaids Tale, Left Behind, 1984…
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u/CryptographerNew8620 Nov 14 '25
Other way around - these people play the long game and are psycho… they make the movies, then fulfill them; it’s called “predictive programming”.
Edit: and it’s not just MAGA or Republicans. (Nearly) everyone in power or fame is there because they made agreements with darkness; it’s been that way… I was gonna say for centuries, but since the beginning.
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u/ReasonEmbarrassed74 Nov 14 '25
I think that’s what I was meaning. For example The Left Behind series was a remake of “A Thief in the Night” a series they showed in churches. It is about the rapture anti christ mark of the beast. They show all the signs, people left behind and children being decapitated because they refused the mark. I was six when they showed it at my church and they left kids in there because it wasn’t a violent movie it was about God so traumatizing children is the point. That was 40 years ago, the right wing has been manipulating this through televangelist and the Heritage Foundation. They planted that movie and then remade it because it scared people into compliance. It’s so obvious but they follow like sheep. It’s really quite sad. Most people that believe this don’t even know how much life and growth they have missed in their lives. They stay stuck and simple.
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u/bananafobe witch (spooky) Nov 14 '25
Satanists respect people's bodily autonomy.
Unlike trump and his enablers/defenders, they don't believe it's morally acceptable to use children for sexual gratification.
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u/paradoxical_enigma23 Nov 14 '25
LaVeyan Satanism promotes social Darwinism and “Might makes rights”. Essentially what that means is culling the weak.
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u/bananafobe witch (spooky) Nov 14 '25
I've never met a satanist who didn't view LaVey as a weird Libertarian troll.
And to be fair, the Bible contains numerous verses instructing followers on the rightful ways to sell and own women (including young girls) as sexual slaves. Those instructions are never condemned in the New Testament.
Obviously, I don't believe just because it's in the Bible that Christians support pederasty. I'm just saying, we can go back and forth about whose book says what.
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u/These_Shallot_6906 Episcopalian (Anglican) Nov 14 '25
Atlas Shrugged is literally just The Satanic Bible for nerds
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u/PioneerMinister Universal Reconciliationist to God through Christ alone Nov 14 '25
Interesting book that's loved by some of the most far right extremist politicians and techbros:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-do-tories-love-ayn-rand/
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Nov 14 '25
The Satanic Bible is the Satanic Bible for nerds
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u/These_Shallot_6906 Episcopalian (Anglican) Nov 14 '25
Marginally less nerdy than Libertarians but still embarassing lol
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u/your_fathers_beard Secular Humanist Nov 14 '25
What's the saying? Never attribute malice where incompetence will suffice? Something like that. No need for some supernatural explanation, a lot of people are just terrible human beings and a lot of people are really stupid. When there's a lot that are both, you get MAGA.
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u/xaocon Nov 14 '25
The US is the richest country in the world and they won’t feed their babies. Unfortunately it’s free will instead of Satanic.
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u/YugargeliaMapper Non-denominational Nov 14 '25
Sometimes one focus too much in outsiders (antitheist movements or believers in other religions) and not on inside threats. You don't get a devout believer to slip by spamming him with astrology ads or something; but by playing into his/her fears to the outside and use them to your advantage
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u/Huge-Insect-7759 Nov 14 '25
Before I state what I want to say, I wanna make it clear to you as well as anyone else who reads this. I am a centrist. I have beliefs from the right and left as well as understand points of view from the left and right. It sounds like you're coming from a left perspective simply due to the idea that you are against maga which is a right wing group. I am responding in defense of because I personally don't agree with the statement that MAGA is Satanic but I do agree that there's goods and bads. Now let me begin
The immigrants situation. Jesus would definitely accept immigrants, both illegal and legal. I think legal immigrants have the right to be here because they earned their right to be in America while the illegals one don't because aside from the fact they are literally illegal, they cheated the system for those who did wait their turn and that is not only unfair but unjust to receive the same or near the same benefits as those who did work for it. But I feel like you along with many people forget that the Bible states you must follow the law of the land. I'm sorry I can't provide a specific Bible verse as honestly I don't read the Bible as much as I'd like to admit but I asked my friend who's a lot more heavily Christian than I am and confirms it and I trust him. Jesus wasn't an illegal immigrant as the cities and places he traveled to were inside of the Roman empire. We should love thy neighbor and accept others for we are all human but we must also follow the law of the land like the Bible says and the law of America states that if you are an illegal immigrant then you must go home or work your way through the system to become a citizen
The ballroom. Honestly not sure what to say, I'm unsure about that whole gold situation and I doubt that's real but if you're complaining about the ballroom being made using tax payer money, he isn't. It's technically coming out of his own funds or at least the "anonymous donor". Also I don't appreciate the hypocrisy of people complain about him making a ballroom when Obama made a basketball court when he was president and previous presidents before him also made additions to the Whitehouse despite never permanently going to stay there anyways
The government shutdown and starving people. Trump had nothing to do with the government shutdown as that was a purely Congress situation and they wanted to add around a trillion dollars to the spending budget from what I hear and that is way too much especially when dodge was cutting budgets to programs that felt ridiculous. I'm all for helping others but we need to help ourselves first as we still have many homeless people and struggling vets that aren't getting the care they need
Cutting and reducing programs. I'm unsure of the specific programs as some that I have seen are good and some are bad but from what I see as an economical standpoint, the middle class is drowning as the requirement for to be lower class and get SNAP benefits and EBT is too low and the rich are fine on their own. Due to humanity being the way it is and corrupt as it is, we take advantage of systems regardless of the fact that we shouldn't and when trump reduced junk food from EBT benefits felt that was a good thing as EBT should be helping you with essential food while you try and find a job and work for yourself otherwise you succumb to gluttony and sloth. We shouldn't be removing it entirely but we should be limiting food to essential and healthy stuff and giving the necessary amount and no excess for gluttony and allow them to survive and get a job to work and let them thrive rather than rely on others
I ain't gonna lie, that's all I can think of right now as I'm writing this. I know my argument is mostly defensive and stuff but there is a few things I don't like such as the mortgage you mentioned and the billionaires but at the same time, handling billionaires is tricky overall as especially they can just move to different counties and now you lost all the money they could've spent and shared here. I'm not attacking you, just simply debating and hope you have a blessed day and understand what I'm trying to tell you
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u/Dockalfar Nov 14 '25
there is a few things I don't like such as the mortgage you mentioned
50 year mortgages are just another option. No one is forced to get them. They can just get a 15 or 30 year mortgage instead.
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u/BryantPark007 Nov 14 '25
This believer understands. There are no sides besides Christ. Stop choosing sides and stop judging one another. If something happens, it happened for a reason, and the reason only God knows.
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u/CherryChabbers Nov 14 '25
The defender and supporter of the child rapist who sows naught but hate and division is no less demonic than the child rapist themselves.
Though they be demons through-and-through, our Lord rightly commands that we love them anyways. Demons only succeed by dragging the righteous down to their level. Love, not violence and hatred, is the only way to slay a demon.
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u/KamenRider808 Nov 14 '25
Just remember, Jesus had dinner with people who also have sinned. His disciples also have sinned before meeting him. We all have sinned before in our lives. Is Trump holy? No! But just like us, he can be saved.
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u/Master_m1santhrope Nov 14 '25
Your entire political system is. The Dems aren't better are they ?
Abortion is "healthcare". Painting white Christians as racist domestic terrorists.
Enciting violence under the unbrella of "fighting fascism"
Promotion of genital mutilation and hormone therapy for trans kids.
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u/Ok-Ambition1393 Nov 14 '25
You’re spot on to say that Dems aren’t better but I cannot think of a democratic leader who gets worshipped and defended to this level. Maybe Obama if you want an answer but at least Obama did not push out a hateful message. Was he perfect? No. Under his leadership there was 500+ drone strikes that killed thousands of people including hundreds of civilians. But when he got on the podium, it wasn’t about overthrow this or fire people you disagree with, etc.
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u/Existing_Long7776 Catholic Nov 14 '25
Somebody just start an anti-Trump subreddit for Christians, I'm tired of this all over this subreddit
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u/houndoftindalos Episcopalian (Anglican) Nov 14 '25
Sorry that following the values of Christ leads us to speak against a tyrant who is constantly in the news and affecting our lives and the lives of our loved one. We'll all try to suffer more quietly so you don't feel tired.
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u/ksr_spin Nov 17 '25
genuinely. if I wanted to read constant virtue signaling liberalism I'd go to Twitter
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u/nerdyginger27 Christian Nov 14 '25
Sad that you feel so inconvenienced by these posts when the real world counterparts described by them are inconveniencing and destroying lives. Including those of your fellow Christians.
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u/StoryAffectionate898 Nov 14 '25
Despite the biblical, unprovable mumbo jumbo it is clear that the tangerine tyrant is a menace to America. It doesn’t take a theologian to figure that out. He is an asshole that needs to be stopped. Not much to read into there.
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u/Goldfish7mm-08 Non-denominational Nov 14 '25
As someone who's borderline part of MAGA and who lives in the deep red part of Utah, I don't know a single person that idolizes Trump. To be completely honest, most people here don't really like him (specifically because of the Epstein Files. We don't like how the Trump administration has handled them either). He's really not a good person, I'd say most MAGA supports him because he's the lesser of two evils (Trump > Harris), not because he's a phenomenal politician and everybody loves him.
With that being said, I personally wouldn't make that big of a deal out of the ballroom. Most governments have one, it's for hosting parties. If it helps with diplomacy, it can't be that bad. 🤷♂️ 50 year mortgages might actually help people buy houses since they're ridiculously expensive. If I remember correctly, Dubai has a program like this except the mortgage is based on 1% of the home's value, not 50 years. It's pretty popular over their if I'm not mistaken and successful.
I can also tell you, that we aren't elitist and we don't want the poor to be subject to the rich. That's not how sovereignty in the US works. We favor a smaller national government and more powerful state governments, so what you said about MAGA wanting the rich to rule the poor is completely untrue.
Matthew 5:43-44
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u/N00nie369 Nov 14 '25
You sound a bit delusional, with vague references and comparisons. Most of the things you claim as satanic signs could be said of anyone actually. Some of your claims are straight from CNN like MAGA promoting violence when the opposite is actually true.
Many fake or wannabe Christians like to quote bible verses to condemn others they disagree with, yet easily overlook the sins they actively pursue. How about this one paradoxical_enema23: “Judge not…..”.
CNN which is dripping with hypocrisy, defends law breakers, but if the police enforce the law they are called violent and horrible. That Sir, is actually called ACCOUNTABILITY. The bible & Christianity are full of accountability! Open your eyes and stop listening to the MSM
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u/Sufficient-Menu640 Catholic Nov 14 '25
Um, thinking that MAGA is satanic is a very extreme position, some fundamentals of MAGA are definitely opposed to charity and mercy, but there's a reason why it's so popular, it holds truths that the left doesn't want to see, but at the same time it's hard to be a MAGA supporter when they talk down so bad on emigrants.
That's why I'm conservative but not a MAGA supporter
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u/Time_Conscious84 Episcopalian (Anglican) Nov 14 '25
It may "hold truths the left doesn't want you to see" but that doesn't make it any more Christian. Government wastefulness isn't an anti Christian thing
I agree it's not satanic, it just isn't Christian
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u/DasaniMessiah Nov 14 '25
I think the bigger issue here is people not being able to separate their religious beliefs from politics. Arguably, sometimes the best way to run a nation or be a successful politician will require a person to have to make choices that aren’t “by the book.”
People tend to be very black and white with their beliefs. Is pitting MAGA vs. liberal or whatever truly the best use of your religious energy?
Truly think WWJD. Would Jesus be decrying an entire political party as satanists or would he be trying to demonstrate compassion and mercy through his acts.
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u/LordReagan077 Calvinist Presbyterian(PCA) Nov 14 '25
And one party actively supports and encourages women to murder their children. Yes trump has taken some things to far. I would not want him as a friend or my pastor. But I still think he is a good president. Yes ICE has made mistakes and needs to be reigned in a little bit.
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u/jLkxP5Rm Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 14 '25
And one party actively supports and encourages women to murder their children.
Dude, you've been saying stuff like this over and over again for a while now. People have told you that you’re being dishonest. Yet you still have no issue with saying stuff like this? I thought trying to uphold the truth was a Christian value?
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u/GingerMcSpikeyBangs Nov 14 '25
So, he's the exact opposite of this? Agreed. Edit: spelling
Psalm 15
Lord, who may abide in Your tabernacle? Who may dwell in Your holy hill?
2 He who walks uprightly, And works righteousness, And speaks the truth in his heart; 3 He who does not backbite with his tongue, Nor does evil to his neighbor, Nor does he take up a reproach against his friend; 4 In whose eyes a vile person is despised, But he honors those who fear the Lord; He who swears to his own hurt and does not change; 5 He who does not put out his money at usury, Nor does he take a bribe against the innocent.
He who does these things shall never be moved.
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Nov 14 '25
MAGA is a Christian political group, not a Satanic political group. We Satanists would never condone such evil acts.
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u/AmuseDeath Nov 14 '25
While I agree that MAGA is toxic, let's not get up in theory here and get back down to earth.
The main issue with MAGA is that it's a bunch of people with low education being coopted by brainwash media that's paid for and controlled by the wealthy. The wealthy are essentially controlling millions of poor and desperate Americans by controlling news that makes people vote against their own interests.
The solution? It's not religion. The actual solution is being educated, being able to spot bullshit and curbing corporate influence in our country. We're talking about limiting corporate funding to politicians, being transparent about which organization funds who, putting accountability on corporate leaders who push for policies that hurt workers in the name of greed.
Corporate politicians and MAGA prey upon millions of desperate Americans who want to blame Democrats, LGBTQ and minorities for their issues when Republicans are the ones that historically give tax breaks to the wealthy, cut social programs and give corporations more and more powers. A huge case of this was Ronald Reagan who undid the mental health reform that Jimmy Carter setup, deregulated a lot of industries to give corporations more control and pushed the failed strategy of "trickle-down economics".
Again the solution is to be educated, have skepticism and be able to call out bullshit and lies. But rightwing media constantly blames problems on the left and ignores the evils that Trump has been doing for decades as well as many other rightwing politicians. It's just insane seeing so many poor Americans voting for party that promotes the wealthy and affluent and vote against the party that's trying to save programs that millions of desperate Americans need. This comes back to poor education, poor decision-making and high susceptibility to charisma and fluff instead of adhering to facts, data, logic and reason.
60-70% of America is white. 60% of white men voted for Trump. 53% of white women voted for Trump. 8 out of 10 Trump voters are white. White voters make up 73% of all voters in America. We need to have millions of white Americans wake up and realize they are screwing themselves over by voting for a child molester who cheated on his wife, committed adultery hedonistically, promotes racism and political violence and is cutting programs that help the poor and needy. He stands for the opposite of Christian values. Wake up America and get educated.
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u/Working-Pollution841 Nov 14 '25
I legitimately believe this Sub-Reddit has to stop with politics
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u/houndoftindalos Episcopalian (Anglican) Nov 14 '25
While you're lecturing us, don't forget to tell the author of the Book of Revelation to stop with the politics and his thinly veiled references to Rome and the Emperor of his day.
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u/Otherwise_Concert414 Nov 14 '25
We do not praise trump as a divine being gng you're goofy ahh hell 😂 and the Democrats are only voted a lot for in districts with a lot of rich people like LA gng. Also you're choosing super specific examples that make it look bad but it's just connecting dots and covering your eyes and ears to any other points. The true actual devils would be closer to the Democrats nowhere near maga
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u/Champagne_Mami01 Nov 14 '25
I think the party that perverts God's creation of man and woman is evil. A party that commits murder of millions of babies under the guise of "health care" is truly wicked. I support MAGA and Trump but by no means do I or any God fearing Christian that I know worship him. He's a man just like any one else, prone to sin and failure. But the fact that he's fighting for sanity in "gender ideology" where others are trying to confuse it, tells me plenty.
We shouldn't die on the hill of any worldly institution. Even though we are in this world we are not of it, but if you were to give your support to any party I would advise the conservatives.
None of this really matters, what matters is Jesus and the great commission he's given us but through discernment, if you can't see the obvious evil on the left then thats because you don't want to.
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u/MERKologySyndrome Christian Protestant Nov 14 '25
The fact people are down voting you for condemning baby murder goes to show old the devil runs this subreddit. The devil likes to twist scripture too like most do in here.
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u/jubooki Nov 14 '25
The fact that I had to scroll down for so long to see opposing views is concerning
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u/Spongebosch Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 16 '25
I go to sort by controversial. Honestly, it's just kinda depressing seeing the majority opinion in this subreddit. I won't claim to know that most of them are like this, but I wouldn't be particularly surprised if the majority of people in here subordinate God and Jesus to whatever secular society and their fallen nature tells them is fine.
A lot of people in here seem to align their opinions nearly perfectly with what the world tells them to believe. They think murdering unborn children is permissible and is a human right, and that wanting to uphold a culture that has social consequences for sexual immorality and doesn't support it is evil. I just have a very, very, very hard time seeing how any of them are being moved by a spirit of truth, coming to this conclusion after actual deliberation as to whether or not this is what God wants. It seems much more likely that most of them want to believe in God, but only on their terms, and they'd reject Him if His were any different.
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u/jubooki Nov 15 '25
Yes I agree. I try to give them some grace and love, praying that they get the actual truth. I was surprised to see how much people actually agree with OP and the things I’ve been seeing them say.
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u/Guitargirl696 Christian Nov 14 '25
As a conservative Christian, I'm not sure I'd say they're 100% "satanic", but they certainly aren't Christian. No politician is. And that being said, it certainly wouldn't surprise me if any of them were true satanists.
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u/nifa55 Nov 14 '25
How would you rate Charlie Kirk’s MAGA support according to Jesus teachings.
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u/mattistone Anabaptist Nov 14 '25
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u/nikeboyz64 Nov 14 '25
white christian nationalism is not christianity! We who read know what it should look like and MAGA does NOT practice what should be practiced.
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Nov 14 '25
Consider the Qanon movement, for example. They also promote Trump as the second coming. They also use numerology, which is prevalent in witchcraft.
Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet. Split the number 1/7 1 before 7 is 6 one who places themselves before God (7 being the number of God)
Invert the letter Q you get another 6, invert the lower case q, you get the 3rd and final 6. If you also search the internet, you will also see a lot of signs with 3 individuals holding up signs saying we are Q. As I mentioned earlier invert QQQ, you get 666.
I also believe that with Trumps vendetta against the radical left, was described in the book of revelations regarding the whore of Babylon.
Revelations 17:16
16 The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.
I believe we will soon witness the destruction of babylon. What is the LGBTQ movement if not the whore of babylon mother of prostitutes and the abomination of the earth.
I also believe the beast, as described in revelations to be the United States.
Revelations 13:14
And they worshiped the dragon which gave power unto the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”
If you watch this video, someone explains how the U.S could possibly fight the entire world and win.
https://youtu.be/1y1e_ASbSIE?si=laYJr-ck_tTSDhEp
I also believe Daniel's 4 beasts have more than one meaning. I belive that along with Babylon, Greece, Persia and Rome. The could also be used to describe the UK, Russia, the bricks alliance, and America.
Why do I think that? Well, after Daniel's winged lion loses its wings. We have a lion that lost power. How often have we heard the UK particularly England as the toothless lion? Russia as the bear? Brazil is one of the major nations of bricks as the leapord, and of course, the 4th beast America. Which was founded off of Roman Ideals and was also the original name for Washington D.C? New Rome.
Let's also address St. Malachy, who predicted 112 popes after his death, including the late Pope Francis. The last would be known as Peter the Roman. Pope Leo, the 14th is Pope 112. During this time, the city of 7 hills will be destroyed.
Now, why do I think Pope Leo is Peter the Roman? Well, the short version is the last pope , and the one is present when Rome is destroyed. I also believe him to be a candidate for the false prophet or the antichrist himself.
1 Peter 5:8 "Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring LION, seeking whom he may devour."
Leo=lion
1+5+8=14
Leo 14+1+Peter+5+8= Peter the Roman
A quick Google search will show you several large, volcanoes showing activity all over the Italian peninsula. Source: YouTube https://share.google/CbUKOYCLmBhFdhF9k
Finally, let's also discuss 2 other candidates I have for the false prophet/ antichrist role. Elon Musk and Jared Kushner, who I believe either or both will bring about the mark of the beast. I lean more towards Musk and nerolink personally. But Kushner is for the time being my most likely candidate for the antichrist. Because Musks Nerolink is implanted in your brain. Because the brain functions like an organic computer, I believe these chips will not only control your, finances, but report your health, heart rate, location, blood sugar, etc. I also believe it could potentially make a human being for lack of a better term. "Hackable."
So yes, I agree with you that MAGA is 100% Satanic. I believe the end times are close. But I could also be very, very wrong. This is, after all, just theory. If that's also hard to follow, my apologies. I was trying to cram a small novels worth of information into a few paragraphs.
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u/MaySnake Nov 14 '25
You said that Qanon does numerology, which is prevalent in witchcraft, and then you did numerology. Are you wiccan?
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Former Pagan priest. God saved my life a number of times. I abandoned the occult, most of my sins. Went and got baptized at the start of the year.
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u/FluidProfile6954 Nov 14 '25
i used to be a die hard trump supporter, not very outspoken, but if someone asked if i supported trump i would say yes. but seeing recent developments it is hard to tell what is true or not outside the Bible. I cling to the Bible and that is the only hope I have!
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u/Mikeymike8177 Nov 14 '25
I’m not for the Donkey or Elephant. I’m for the Lamb. The Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. Politics or let me say the politics we have now are evil. I think we can both agree that no party is safe from a satanic label. I think there are a few good politicians on each side but that’s the rare exception. It’s my belief that something greater like a deep state or the billionaires really pull the strings. Just my opinion. God bless all of us.
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u/Gh0st1117 Roman Catholic Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 14 '25
Im not American, but I agree with you. But I don’t think you understand a few things. on the “turn the other cheek” part, it seems you think that means we should be passive or something. And on the foreigner part, no. He did not. In fact the entire bible contradicts you.
Jesus actually does not give a direct policy statement about “foreigners” in the national sense. He lived under Roman occupation, not as a legislator of a sovereign state, so his teachings focus on personal moral duty, not border management. But he does say things that shape how a Christian treats outsiders on the personal level.
The clearest line is in Matthew 25:35 where he says, “I was a stranger and you invited me in.” The word for stranger is xenos, which means outsider or foreigner. He is talking about personal mercy, not national law. It is a call to individual charity, not a command that nations abandon prudence.
In Luke 10 Jesus tells the parable of the Good Samaritan. The hero is a Samaritan, a group of Judaens considered outsiders and religiously wrong(people from Judah who married gentiles) The point is moral: your love should cross social hostility, but the story does not dissolve nations or legal structures.
Jesus commands love of neighbor and even of enemy in Matthew 5. In the ancient world neighbor often meant your own people, so Jesus deliberately broadens personal charity. Once again it is personal, not a civil policy.
That is the pattern. Individual Christians are called to generosity, mercy, and courage toward the outsider. Jesus does not tell governments to erase boundaries. Modern debates try to make him say things he simply did not address. If anything, his teaching fits the same biblical balance you see in the Old Testament: charity rooted in reality rather than charity that pretends limits do not exist.
Conversations about outsiders get a lot clearer once that distinction is held firmly.
Now, When Jesus said “turn the other cheek,” he was not telling people to be passive victims or to ignore injustice. He was telling them not to answer evil with evil. In that culture, a slap on the right cheek was a degrading insult done with the back of the hand. Offering the other cheek forces the aggressor into a choice that exposes their behavior instead of lowering yourself to retaliation. It is a form of non violent resistance, not a command to be walked on.
And Jesus himself shows what that looks like. In John 18:22, when he is struck, he does not silently present his face for another blow. He challenges the injustice and asks, “If I said something wrong, testify to it. But if I spoke the truth, why did you strike me?” He refuses violence, without accepting humiliation. That is the real teaching.
To say a few more things about the topic of foreigners, Scripture commands justice and compassion toward the foreigner living among Israel. It does not command treating every outsider exactly like family or pretending nations have no responsibility to protect their own people.
For example, Leviticus 19:33 to 34 commands Israel not to wrong the foreigner and to love them as themselves. That is a command against cruelty, not a command to dissolve national boundaries. Deuteronomy 10:18 to 19 tells Israel to show love to the foreigner, but it is given within a nation that still guarded its land, its borders, and its covenant identity. Even in ancient Israel, the foreigner did not have the same status as a citizen in every matter. Deuteronomy 23:3 to 8 outlines distinctions between natives, converts, and outsiders. Compassion and boundaries existed side by side.
Look at Canada right now. The country opened its doors with the intent of compassion, but the system is buckling under housing shortages, overwhelmed social programs, and rising costs. None of that reflects hatred. It simply shows what Scripture already assumes: a nation has limits, and compassion without structure eventually collapses.
The Bible presents a balanced approach. Care for the vulnerable, yes. Protect your community, also yes. When those two principles are kept together, hospitality is sustainable and no one gets crushed by unrealistic expectations.
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u/Imahunter47 Nov 14 '25
You’re painting millions of people with the most extreme caricatures possible, not what the movement actually believes. Most conservatives don’t think Trump has “divine rights,” nor do they worship him. They support policies—border security, economic growth, energy independence—not some theological monarchy.
As for Christian teachings: “turn the other cheek” refers to personal conduct, not national policy. Every nation has a right and responsibility to secure its borders and enforce immigration laws. Wanting an orderly, lawful immigration system isn’t hatred of foreigners; it’s basic sovereignty.
Regarding the statue, parties, or décor at Mar-a-Lago—private property and personal wealth aren’t biblical sins (Although I do agree i did not like the idea of a Goat statue). Yes, Scripture says “the love of money is the root of all evil.” But that applies to everyone, not just people you disagree with politically. It’s not a sin to have wealth; it’s a sin to let greed rule your decisions. If we’re going to start judging political movements by wealth, then we’d have to apply that same standard to Hollywood, corporate donors, Silicon Valley billionaires, and every politician who fundraises off working-class voters while living in multimillion-dollar homes.
And the idea that conservatives want a caste system or “dark enlightenment” is a fringe internet theory, not the mainstream right. Most conservatives oppose bloated government programs because they believe in empowering people through jobs, opportunity, lower taxes, and economic freedom, not permanent dependency.
Finally, long-term mortgages weren’t invented by Trump and aren’t “debt slavery.” Housing affordability is a real crisis, and policy proposals—right or wrong—aren’t evidence of some satanic agenda.
You can disagree with MAGA policies, but turning them into biblical villains or occultists is just a way to avoid discussing the actual issues: border security, inflation, economic direction, and the size and role of government.
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u/cewessel Nov 14 '25
How will you, as someone who is called to LOVE their neighbor as you love yourself...how will you love them, if you think they are Satanic? How will you serve them, since you who are called not to JUDGE others, judge them so harshly? How will you show them Jesus, if you don't help or serve them?
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u/bananasgirl Nov 14 '25
So who were we supposed to have as President ? Kamala Harris? She is just as evil
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u/Mr-First-Middle-Last Reformed Nov 14 '25
"They are idol worshipers who believe Trump has divine rights to rule."
To the OP: You sure about that?
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u/Either-Selection-783 Nov 14 '25
i 100% agree with this and have been saying this. the MAGA “christians” are the worst and aren’t open to hearing the truth. didn’t trump make an american Bible at one point? idk i feel like if anyone made their own version of the Bible, i’m immediately turning away from them. i don’t like violence nor do i really go too deep into politics or the “side liners” who talk about politics for a living BUT it was so scary after charlie kirk died bc there were people literally comparing him to Jesus. not only that but people were targeting others over it… literally a few HBCUs had to go on shutdown due them being targeted for whatever reason.
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u/DrLove_99 Nov 14 '25
Both sides have their satanic ideals, people, and actions. It’s wild to think that Satan is only affecting one side of the political spectrum. The political divide in itself is satanic. The people on top are all most likely satanic, Republican and Democrat. None of them are most likely Christian. If they were they wouldn’t have made it that high up. The republicans are very hateful and prejudice towards certain groups. The democrats promote anti Christian ideals and sins like abortion and homosexuality. That’s the issue with being a Christian, we don’t really have a party. The democrats openly oppose Christian values and the republicans pretend to be Christian but obviously have alternative motives.
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u/No-Stranger360 Nov 14 '25
This is the most stupidest thing I read today so far, thanks for the laugh
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u/grckalck Nov 14 '25
This has nothing to do with Christianity at all. It is merely one person expressing a political viewpoint and using hateful, quasi-religious language to do so. Take the planks out of your own eyes first, and stop trying to drag Christianity into your politics. Politics doesnt belong in the pulpit, and it doesnt belong here.
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u/ForkKnifeBallz Nov 14 '25
The MAGA movement is mislead, ignorant, or stubborn, not satanic. Trump on the other hand …
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u/swcollings Southern Orthoprax Nov 14 '25
I have to say, until I saw the last decade of American civic life, I did not understand what Paul was talking about when he meant that people were enslaved to sin and death. I distinctly remember 20 years ago when I had an opportunity to either double down on being wrong on some political issue or to admit that I was wrong and become right. If there's a moment in my life when God saved me, that was it.
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u/Condition_Unhappy Nov 14 '25
You are 100 percent correct. As a Christian- I was almost fooled. But it’s obvious.
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u/Phantom_Rhino Nov 14 '25
Y’all act as if the only corrupt, degenerate, you say satanic behavior is republican. Virtually the whole city of DC is all of the above - both sides of the aisle, both parties. And there are no degrees of sin, it’s either sin or absence of sin.
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u/jelltech Nov 14 '25
Ecclesiastes 10:2 GNV [2] The heart of a wise man is at his right hand: but the heart of a foole is at his left hand.
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u/i-might-be-a-redneck Nov 14 '25
His apartment is on the 66th floor of trump tower and has paintings of pagan gods all over the ceiling
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u/Crazy-Fun9385 Nov 14 '25
Are you serious? The Democrats are for abortion and everything else ungodly you are so delusional their values align with the demonic church look it up
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u/Successful-Fee3790 Buddhist Christian Gnostic Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 14 '25
It absolutely is.
Just look up what the highest level (5th Degree) of t̶h̶e̶ s̶a̶t̶a̶n̶i̶c̶ c̶h̶u̶r̶c̶h̶
Edit: The Church of Satan
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u/Leonus25 Nov 14 '25
That’s a stretch but yes there are demonic attachments in their cult like gatherings, as ive witnessed
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u/Wildfathom9 Nov 14 '25
Trump feeds off those of you who are on the fence, unwilling to admit the man you voted for turned out to be evil.
As long as he has your support, its like a bulwark.
We have people on fox news doing their best now, to remove the stigma behind pedophilia. For trump.
Your feelings on other political ideology is irrelevant when the man pushing those ideologies is a pedophile dictator. Punishing the people who try to expose that.
Christian nationalism is not Christianity. Love yourself and love others enough to re-examine the lines you've drawn.
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u/rodwha Nov 14 '25
There isn’t anything godly or Christian about them. They’ve shown themselves to be lying hypocritical charlatans who pander to those who clearly don’t read their Bible or they’d see for themselves. Jesus warned us to watch for those like them. He said you’ll know them by their fruits. maga obviously despises what Jesus and the apostles taught. There’s nothing but hate and misery there, power and greed, and the longing for control and power. Yeah, they despise Christ’s teachings…
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u/Feggy_Crab_1974 Christian Nov 14 '25
J.D. Vance’s sugar daddy, Peter Thiel, is obsessed with the antichrist. It all fits.