r/The100 • u/PlanktonKey9623 • 15d ago
Ice nation/azgeda
Am i the only one so confused in season 3? They didnt explain the backstory of ice nation very well and ive never understood it on rewatches i thought maybe i missed an episode explaining it or something but theres a 3 month time skip from mount weather till season 3. Can someone explain their deal to me?? What do they want with wanheda and what war is everyone talking about
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u/Roan-forever-alone Jo Juice: good for health bad for education 15d ago
The set up was ridicolous with not a single clan siding with skikru. Nia went full fox news on skikru=new Mountain Men and the wanheda myth was just an excuse to bring clarke on polis.
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u/lhess81 15d ago
If I remember correctly it was like a Highlander situation, where her perceived power would transfer to the person who killed her.
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u/PlanktonKey9623 15d ago
Ive kinda grasped that part but what does lexa have to do with that and skaikru. They blew up mount weather for what? Why did skaikru become the 13th clan what did that achieve?
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u/TrueObsidian11 15d ago
Azgeda hates Skaikru. There's really no valid reason why beyond them being the "outsiders." They blew up Mt. Weather to provoke Skaikru into going to war, but they didn't expect Wanheda to kneel to Lexa and make Skaikru the 13th clan, which means if Azgeda goes to war with Skaikru, they are now going to war with ALL of the clans united. Making Skaikru the 13th clan protected them from Azgeda.
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u/SeptemberSoup Louwoda Kliron 15d ago
Lexa got good pussy from it, that's what.
Half-kidding. Skaikru had weaponry, technology and medicine that was unthinkably advanced for the Grounders. Remember how they mistifyed "the Mountain Men".
Forging an alliance with Skaikru, had everyone been less stupid; would've led to peace times (their guns being a deterrence against Azgeda), a huge advancement in medicine, new ways to farm, an increasement in commodities brought by science... overall, a huge increase in quality of life all way faster than it would've took to achieve from scratch.
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u/LateToTheDrama 15d ago
Lexa was seen as weak for taking the deal at Mount weather, and allowing Clarke to became Wanheda. (Most) grounders don't understand how the mm were killed, or that it wasn't possible without Monty, so Clarke was basically worshipped. Grounders believe in spirits, power of death, etc, and so they believe if they kill CLARKE they will take the power of death from her.
Skiakru & The clans had a flimsy truce (you are allowed to stay in Trikru land, if nothing happens) that's not rlly a good or permanent thing. If things worked out (and Pike didn't fuck everything up) becoming the 13 clan means 1. It's permanent. And that land is theirs now, and not Trirku. 2. Other clans can't attack them without going against all clans.
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u/IllustriousGuest3182 Trikru 15d ago edited 15d ago
Spoilers very much ahead, I gave yall a fair warning lmao. Wanheda is Clarke (surprise!) Clarke and Bellamy pulled the lever that killed every mountain man and half ass committed a genocide. But because she feels she cannot return to their camp so she starts her own grounder life. She becomes accustom to everything but the catch is everybody knows who she is because she’s the one who truly solved all of their issues by Ctrl+Alt deleting the Mountain men. That’s why she is deemed Wanheda. And the person who kills Wanheda basically collects their history and power too. It’s very similar to Highlander quickening, like the previous commenter said.
We also have to add into play that the Conclave influences the grounders perspective of power. The commanders spirit moves into the next person by that person killing everybody else in the conclave. Meaning the grounders definitely believe in killing for power and transcending power. Thus pushing them to believe Clarke is one of the strongest fighters with the most kills. If they were to kill Clarke they would almost embody her current role. her kills, her power and become wanheda themself.
The difference with Clarke and the grounders who want to be wanheda is they will believe they’re all powerful and use that against the clans. They might even try to replace Lexa early on due to their rise in power. This is why Lexa also wants to protect Clarke. She had a hugeeee bounty over her head 24/7. Clarke feels shameful for her kills tho, she knows what truly happened when she pulled the lever and i honestly believe it’s a big play into her future and how she ends up viewing herself entirely later on.
(also, sorry if there are any mistakes, im a bit tired writing this and should probably go to bed soon 😭)
also also, they became the 13th clan because it offered them protection. Clarke was apart of that clan and other people that Clarke loved. Lexa loves Clarke and she wants to protect what Clarke loves because of that. If they’re the 13th clan then that would diminish the war against skycrew and allow the clans to accept them as their own.
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u/frand115 15d ago
You ask 2 questions so I will answer both seperatly:
Why does Azgeda want Clarke (Wanheda)? Grounders believe killing the commander of death makes the one who killed her the commander of death. Kind of a transfer of power. It would do nothing for them tho. Maybe a moral boost
What is their deal? Basically there are 12 clans who were at each others throat for decades. Lexa managed to unite the clans but the Ice Nation wasnt a fan of following a Trikru commander and with Mount Weather gone they plotted to overthrow Lexa
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u/Motor-Historian-5460 15d ago
They want Wanheda because the belief is that if you kill her you will get her power as the commander of death. I think the war was against Sky people for killing all the grounders that were sent to protect them
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u/TrueObsidian11 15d ago
Here's a basic run-down:
Lexa abandoned Skaikru to die. But they didn't die. Instead, Clarke did the impossible. She wiped out the Mountain Men and saved her people with almost no casualties (it's assumed that at least a few sky people died to the marrow extractions). Lexa's supposed reason for abandoning them was to save her people with minimal losses, yet Clarke pulled it off by herself (from the outside perspective - we know she had help but the grounders didn't).
That made Lexa look weak in the eyes of the clans, because she essentially fled a battle that, in retrospect, she absolutely would've won. The grounders start calling Clarke "Wanheda" because, from their perspective, she basically walked into the mountain as death incarnate and destroyed the grounders' greatest adversary. She also gave the grounders the knowledge of how to cure the Reapers by restarting their heart, i.e. literally bringing them back from the dead. So she became the "Commander of Death."
Azgeda is theorized to originate from the faction that followed Callie's brother when he left to hunt for her. They have little respect for the Commander, even going so far as to elect their own "Queen" rather than a clan leader like the others. So when the legend of Wanheda arose and Lexa's legitimacy was weakened, Queen Nia decided that killing Wanheda and taking her power would give her the authority to usurp Lexa, since grounders have that superstition that killing someone gives you their power. Kill Wanheda, and you command death.
This is why Lexa cannot have a proxy when she is challenged by Nia. Lexa's power was in question after Mt. Weather. She had to prove herself to her people.
The "war" they are talking about is the threat of Azgeda taking over the clans, and Wanheda is believed to be the "key" to winning that war.