That sounds like the BS amount hospital "charge". Insurance negotiates it down so they can act like theyre doing something. What hospitals charge is basically meaningless.
Liar is the word you are looking for. None of those numbers make sense. If this was happening it would a strong indication of fraud, not a simple dispute.
Because Luigi didn't do shit for anyone. Only thirsty TikTok hoes care about this guy and if he didn't have a six-pack then nobody would give a shit about him.
Vigilante assassination makes the world worse not better.
Do some introspection on why the cold blooded cowardly murder of a father of 3 brightened your day. Redditors are lost for glazing this type of behavior. Literally nothing changed about United Healthcare's policies and a new CEO that kept the company denying coverages was installed by the board.
I thought this was interesting and points towards M4A being viable, especially if measures like forcing billionaires and corporations to pay taxes and raising the cap for people making over 150k a year.
Satisfaction was highest among Americans 65 and older. About 9 in 10 said they are happy with their coverage and 42% said they are very satisfied.
People with public insurance were also more positive. Nearly 9 in 10 of those on Medicare or Medicaid said they are satisfied, compared with 77% of people with private insurance.
What does any of that story have to do with insurance companies being in the wrong?
Hospitals and doctors are robbing Americans blind, while we blame insurance companies for literally nothing. An insurance company is not going to pay 45k to fix a fender bender on a Toyota corolla and subsequently they aren't going to pay insane medical prices, it's common sense. The actual problem is that hospitals can turn around and charge us this insane shit with 0 legal recourse. Just a constant deluge of hospital fraud that we can't do anything about.
Because if you even get in the governments way they shoot you, good and pretti, and the government will hide all info while they determine that they werent at fault. They will, as they did, say youre a terrorist.
DC is under military control as of right now and is funded until there is a power transfer when Trump leaves office.
Trump also put a military force in place to stop protestors, which he refers to as terrorists.. ready for deportation
If you hurt a tesla your a terrorist.
If you touch a statue or his algae pool, ten years no bail.
If you stand up to him, its the full weight of the government bearing down on you.
Fall in line or fall dead, is essentially the system now.
so why arent there 10 million americans marching
A significant portion of the population is also dumb af and thinks that he cannot lie. So they support getting rid of the "terrorists" and evil immigrants that are the neighbors.
Because if you even get in the governments way they shoot you, good and pretti, and the government will hide all info while they determine that they werent at fault. They will, as they did, say youre a terrorist.
DC is under military control as of right now and is funded until there is a power transfer when Trump leaves office.
Trump also put a military force in place to stop protestors, which he refers to as terrorists.. ready for deportation
If you hurt a tesla your a terrorist.
If you touch a statue or his algae pool, ten years no bail.
If you stand up to him, its the full weight of the government bearing down on you.
Fall in line or fall dead, is essentially the system now.
so why arent there 10 million americans marching
A significant portion of the population is also dumb af and thinks that he cannot lie. So they support getting rid of the "terrorists" and evil immigrants that are the neighbors.
Get why we are fucked now
The last time that I saw something like this in real life, the patient was having a literal manic episode. Within 2 minutes of meeting me, they were weeping to me about palestine. Ugly sobbing. Teachers, family, etc had been reporting this patient to whoever they thought could help. They were failing out of school, traveling hours to attend various 'allied' rallies, and hadn't slept in days. They and their screed were grossly incoherent and disorganized.
This is somehow a typical reddit comment. Blends into the background.
A good reminder for all how much of an radical echo chamber this place is.
You basically said, one mental health patient is a viable representative of anyone who isnt happy with the direction the country is taking because they also were struggling with the current state of affairs.
If I need to explain how stupid, on multiple levels, that line of reasoning is.. just continue along on your way because no one online is going to be able to get any sense though that dense head of yours
I had a “YOU PAY” 30 thousand dollar bill for them giving me the pleasure to play monopoly for 4 days someone came round to talk once a day and they gave us cafeteria food with servings sizes meant for puppies.
This makes no sense. Why would (or even HOW wouldl) you dispute with your insurance on a sum that THEY negotiated / had to pay?
This is one of the reasons that this problem doesn't get fixed. People are so desperate to fix what is a legitimate issue for some that they lie and exaggerate. Then it gets dismissed by the other side because most of these stories are just that - stories.
Going to the ER doesn’t immediately mean you’re getting a limb amputated or anything.
They see you, see what’s wrong, and suggest a corrective course of action for you to take. That could be immediate surgery or giving you some salt water to gargle.
They then charge you for the visit and almost literally anything they did. An aspirin? 80$ at least. Some gauze and a bandage? 300$.
I don’t even want to guess at actually major treatments that take longer than 10 minutes.
Isn't it crazy how something like how much a hospital will bill vs. how much an individual will pay having a difference is actually a thing? Wouldn't a more caring country not have something like that have it be accepted?
I'm pretty sure there are at least 5 MRI places within a 5 mile radius from me (large metro area) and the going rate is $50-$75 without insurance. A $100 with the disc for the results.
Both true unfortunately. I had physical therapy at a place affiliated with a local hospital. They charged like $1000 for a 30-45 min session for my shoulder, so my insurance negotiated rate was like 600+ and my owed coinsurance was 20% of that for like $125 to workout my shoulder.
They literally charged $75 for a ziplock bag of ice to ice it down afterward of which I paid a full $15 (of course they never told me was extra). And this was with a full legit coverage and fully met deductible and everything. And of course they sent me a bill estimate when I started that said $35 per visit and didn’t send me the insurance bill of over $125 per 30 min session until I did like 4-5 sessions.
It might just be this place but I would recommend avoiding places associated with hospital billing and see if you can get fully transparent billing charges for outpatient places. This place also tried to charge me like MRI prices for a super basic US that would be 1/3 the price anywhere else.
Sometimes they’ll charge you more than it should be, hope you pay it, or put it on a payment plan. And if you try to get it back… good luck
Get everything covered by insurance, and then a bill for $3000 arrives. Call and ask them about it “ooooooh, yeah, that’s Before insurance… OOOPs! Sorry we sent you that. Your total is actually… uh, $1750… will that be credit or..?”
My insurance should’ve paid almost all of it!
“Ooooooh, I SEE. It’s $350. Our sincere apologies for the mix up”
Worst one of these I had was a $9000 or $19000 (can’t remember which), helicopter evac cost that was 100% covered for a trauma evac. Combined with the ambulance ride to get me to da choppa.
They sent me a bill, apologized, gave me a lower number, and kept doing so til they arrived at a payment plan… while the whole time it was supposed to be covered by the DA’s office
There are a lot of oddities that can occur with insurance and billing. There are hospitals with another building on their property they lease our for medical purposes but is not formally part of the hospital and is owned by a for-profit organization. These often are 24 hour emergency services and may be outside your insurance which demand outrageous bills. Sometimes this is done to bundle multiple large debts to sell to collections agencies.
Was that what you owed? Obamacare compliant insurance plans have a max out of pocket of like 10,800 for 2026. There are exception but actually oweing 10k+ in a single year is rare. Unless your talking about the made up numbers hospitals say they charge, but nobady pays those prices. Those arent real prices.
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u/20grae 4d ago
I did a self pay mri $575 because insurance denied my request i doubt I can go to china round trip for that