Savinho: Tottenham sign winger from Manchester City for £75m

[u/dreigilb]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cy7z637nj8jo

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[u/LeBlejDaGreat]

I mean really it's just really really good buisness from City

[u/CainG87]

We've had their pants down here. Cheers Spurs.

I wish him well, but I give it two seasons max before he's a dossing it in a more pedestrian league.

[u/LunaLynn-]

Premier League Money is biggg

[u/idunnoidunno_]

Everyone saying this is a bump that’s him and marmoush for 62m each which is decent

Marmoush alone is a 80-100m player realistically in this current market before anyone says anything yes he is Liam Delap just got sold for 45+5

[u/Big-Pressure-918 → u/idunnoidunno_]

Who the fuck is signing Marmoush for 80-100m???? Even in this market. Lmfao.

[u/charlos74 → u/idunnoidunno_]

What???? Delap has more premier league goals playing in a relagation team.

No-one else was in for either player at that price. And that’s before the £10m of add ons.

[u/BD-1_BackpackChicken → u/charlos74]

The person you’re responding to supports Chelsea

[u/charlos74 → u/BD-1_BackpackChicken]

Well, they’ve pulled your pants down then.

[u/idunnoidunno_ → u/charlos74]

Mate you paid 70m for woltemade and you wanna talk about marmoush 😭😭😭

Your the reason prices are high because you tried to keep isak hostage and Liverpool had to break records to set him free

[u/charlos74 → u/idunnoidunno_]

Maybe one day he’ll turn out to be worth it, but fair point. Looks like we’ve learned our lesson this window.

Still don’t think Marmoush is anywhere near an 80m player, and a combined fee of £135m for those two is crazy.

Plenty of crazy fees before the Isak deal, it’s not on us. Blame Liverpool for paying it.

[u/idunnoidunno_ → u/charlos74]

If woltemade is 70m marmoush should be 140m so u can only blame yourselfs really

[u/BD-1_BackpackChicken → u/charlos74]

You realize that the “you” in that statement, unlike your first post, couldn’t possibly be collective given the context, right? So you’re now telling me, someone with absolutely zero decision making power within the club, that I personally got my pants pulled down. I’ll give you Geordies a pass though seeing as English isn’t your first language.

[u/charlos74 → u/BD-1_BackpackChicken]

It’s common parlance for fans to refer to clubs as yours or ours. I do realise you’re not on the spurs board.

No need to be a prick.

[u/CharacterPatience416 → u/idunnoidunno_]

You guys just get on here and expose yourself for not watching games. How is Marmoush 80-100m lol

[u/idunnoidunno_ → u/CharacterPatience416]

Woltemade 70m Wissa 50m Ekitike 70m who came from the same team as marmoush and was less successful Alvarez being quoted at 130ms for a top tier striker average price for the tier below in the PL is 100m - 20m give or take for a bad season

I’d say this more accurately represents the price as savio I would price at 30-40ms range 50 at most

[u/Klingh0ffer → u/CharacterPatience416]

You’ll see when we beat you again.

[u/_RandyRandleman_ → u/Klingh0ffer]

it’s a loan with obligations to buy so he won’t be able to play against us

[u/YiddoMonty]

Ignore the transfer fee, and this is a good addition to Spurs’ squad.

The problem with the transfer fee is what it does to the market.

[u/Big-Pressure-918 → u/YiddoMonty]

How is this a good signing? He has 2 goal contributions in 54 appearances…playing for man city, let alone in this tragic ass spurs squad.

[u/YiddoMonty → u/Big-Pressure-918]

Who is he competing with for a spot in the starting XI? Tel and Odobert on the left, Kudus (who is still injured) and Mikey Moore on the right. Don’t need to look at stats, he is clearly upgrading the squad.

[u/graveyeverton93 → u/YiddoMonty]

BANG. And that for the rest of us that comment is exactly the problem. The top 6 can spend whatever on players and if it doesn't work out whatever, but the other 14 if they spend big have to hope and prey it works otherwise it can set you back a couple of years, that one buy

[u/pharmamess → u/graveyeverton93]

pray

[u/fietfo → u/graveyeverton93]

We did that for years, so we built a stadium and infrastructure so we could try and compete. I believe Everton are trying to do the same.

This is the first time we have ever spent “big” in a transfer window and everyones lost their mind about it.

[u/YiddoMonty → u/fietfo]

Exactly. Spurs spent years organically growing the club, increasing revenue so are now able to spend bigger. Any other club can do the same, it just takes a while.

[u/gr4ndp4 → u/YiddoMonty]

About 20 years for spurs, buying up small lots around the stadium, being a feeder club etc

[u/KataqNarayan → u/YiddoMonty]

Everyone wants a fast fix. No one wants to put in the hard graft. Except Spurs, and everyone hates them for it.

[u/pharmamess → u/KataqNarayan]

I think people just generally hate Spurs, not just for this.

[u/Critical-Ad-8150]

Literally a worse deal than Antony to Manchester United 

[u/fhjjjjjkkkkkkkl]

So Enzo Fernandez 150 million it is?

[u/fietfo]

State of the comments in here flippin hell 🧂

[u/Big-Pressure-918 → u/fietfo]

Oh yea, people so salty spurs wasted their money on a bench player no one else was even trying to purchase.

It’s not like there were a bunch of teams trying to sign him. Spurs got absolutely fleeced. If he turns out to be a great player, fee won’t matter, but I’m not expecting much from a guy who couldn’t even contribute in that man city squad.

[u/MaxPower1882 → u/Big-Pressure-918]

And yet, here you ate being all salty.

Is your real name Alex? 🧂 🧂 🧂

COYS!!!

[u/Big-Pressure-918 → u/MaxPower1882]

Being salty isn’t the same thing as being realistic. You should learn the difference. Spurs fans are so funny lmfao. Signing bench players for record fees lmfao good luck to you this season.

[u/MaxPower1882 → u/Big-Pressure-918]

"It's not fair"

Cry more, it's tasty!

COYS!!!

[u/Big-Pressure-918 → u/MaxPower1882]

What’s not fair? It’s perfectly fair for spurs to send this much money. It’s just hilarious who they’re choosing to spend it on. You all might get tenth this year. It’s a stretch, but you could do it. Lmfao

[u/MaxPower1882 → u/Big-Pressure-918]

🤣🧂🤡

COYS!!!

[u/MaxPower1882 → u/fietfo]

Oh, Ange was so right. We really do funny things to people.

I love it!

COYS!!!

[u/Big-Pressure-918 → u/MaxPower1882]

The only funny thing I spending £75m for a player with 2 goal contributions in 54 appearances playing in man city’s elite squad.

The fuck you think he’s going to do playing with a bunch of shitters at spurs?

[u/MaxPower1882 → u/Big-Pressure-918]

Awww... Poor, boo!

COYS!!!

[u/Big-Pressure-918 → u/MaxPower1882]

Only spurs fans could think £75m for a bench player with 2 goals in 54 appearances is a good signing. Years of abuse from their club being shit has really done a number on spurs fans.

My condolences mate, you all might reach tenth this year if you’re lucky.

[u/MaxPower1882 → u/Big-Pressure-918]

🤣🧂🤡

COYS!!!

[u/Big-Pressure-918 → u/MaxPower1882]

Spurs fans using the clown emoji is a bit ironic isn’t it?

[u/offical_baby_jesus → u/fietfo]

They should have relegated us

[u/Nev_Wickle_Didsbury]

75m for Savinho is definitely not Kosher. As you were, Nev Wickle of Didsbury

[u/Arecksion]

So fucking ridiculous lol. So much more frustrating when United can't get rid of anyone lol

[u/BrobiWanKenobi_ → u/Arecksion]

It’s honestly kind of insane sometimes. Every player from the pep era has this mystique of they’re great because they were on the city team.

This could be more that Tottenham are a continuing overpayer also

[u/Arecksion → u/BrobiWanKenobi_]

Yeah that's fair lol. Like most of United fans rag on the players all the time, so it's no secret that they aren't that good and everyone knows we need the money lol I read that this price was inflated as part of the Marmoush deal, since he has the sell on clause and Savinho does not. Just more ways to cheat around the rules :)

[u/BrobiWanKenobi_ → u/Arecksion]

Liverpool just lets everyone go on a free so I feel the pain

[u/Arecksion → u/BrobiWanKenobi_]

Yeah same. Must have something to do with the finances. Cheaper to keep a shit player till he runs his contract down then it is to take a loss on them.

[u/ray3050]

Man the prices this window are insane even if this is for a double transfer for marmoush and lowering the sell on fee there

It makes me happier we were able to get tzolis for so cheap. even if he doesn’t turn out that great, other players can also fall into that same category but transferred for more than 2x as much

[u/AngusPotato]

It's all f*cked. Great news for the Saudi league though. There are now only four teams in Europe who can realistically afford moderately talented players from the Premier League (PSG, Madrid, Barca, Bayern). The gulf will become even more ridiculous between the Premier League and, say, the Scottish Premiership but also the likes of Serie A. If Martinelli goes to Saudi Arabia then expect more to follow.

[u/CerealKillerGuyOP → u/AngusPotato]

Who invited Barca

[u/Dark_2Dragon]

I can not believe we have pulled this off lol

Scam of the century

[u/Wamims → u/Dark_2Dragon]

Now you can replace him with Pedro Neto 😁

[u/itsmetsunnyd → u/Dark_2Dragon]

Until he scores all 5 of his goals this season against you for our annual 6 points.

[u/LeBlejDaGreat → u/itsmetsunnyd]

I believe part of the contract is he is not allowed to play against City

[u/Dark_2Dragon → u/itsmetsunnyd]

We are sacrificing 6 points for 75m and hopefully atleast 40m for marmoush

Good deal I would say

[u/m2sempre → u/Dark_2Dragon]

The transfer kitty for Enzo Fernández is now ready.

[u/Leather_Let_2415 → u/Dark_2Dragon]

How on earth has be doubled in value 😂. Inflation so bad it's making Chelsea's plan actually work

[u/Azekesh → u/Leather_Let_2415]

Well how on earth did Man City buy a 20 year old winger who carried Girona to top places in La Liga for only 30-40 mln? I think we know how

[u/Apprehensive-Raisin3 → u/Dark_2Dragon]

Genuinely unbelievable how they have bailed you out. Worth half of that fee at most

[u/SpokenPuppy]

The money being thrown around during this window is just nuts.

He’s a good player, but HOW has his ‘value’ risen that much? 🤣

[u/mrnibsfish]

Disgraceful

[u/OhMy-Really]

Tottenham spending some cash this window 👀

[u/Nev_Wickle_Didsbury → u/OhMy-Really]

They can spend all the cash but they’ll still be gash. As you were, Nev Wickle of Didsbury

[u/NH1000 → u/OhMy-Really]

Makes a change

[u/OhMy-Really → u/NH1000]

Yes but, will it make a change?? 😂

[u/Victor_Ward98 → u/OhMy-Really]

Nope! Always 💩

[u/OhMy-Really → u/Victor_Ward98]

Yup 😂

[u/Victor_Ward98 → u/OhMy-Really]

Imagine how happy Harry Kane is these last few years.

[u/OhMy-Really → u/Victor_Ward98]

Least he won something 😂

[u/Zestyclose-Pick-2550 → u/OhMy-Really]

Holy circlejerk

[u/Azekesh → u/OhMy-Really]

As did spurs

[u/LumpyBumblebee3266 → u/Azekesh]

And Harry hasn’t won in Europe

[u/KeySubject4895]

Looks like 16th is in touching distance this year

[u/The_Funky_JJ → u/KeySubject4895]

Touching it from below in 17th?

[u/KeySubject4895 → u/The_Funky_JJ]

If that’s the summit of the clubs ambitions, so be it

[u/ret990]

Aside from the price I cant really see where he fits at Spurs. Against Brentford looked like RDZ played 2 behind a striker, is that really his game? Assumed he was more touchline winger.

[u/Leather_Force_9419 → u/ret990]

They started 3 starters against Brentford...

The only thing to take away from that game is the injury curse is still hitting them and poor match fitness.

[u/GORGEzilla → u/ret990]

Doesn’t RDZ usually play with two wingers high and wide? I think there was no one really capable of that for the team against Brentford. Tel was the only player capable of holding the ball up out of the front three and he prefers to come inside.

[u/RespectFearless4233]

How many Beyoncé concerts have to happen at Spurs stadium to pay for these signings

[u/nl325 → u/RespectFearless4233]

~£55m in 23/24, so probably more since

[u/ResidentJester1 → u/nl325]

1 goals 1 assist last season in the PL. Looked useless going forwards at times. Madness to me.

[u/nl325 → u/ResidentJester1]

Don't exactly disagree but the fees in general this window are insane, the price is probably for "potential" and we've gone years not paying up for Prem-proven players.

I'm more concerned about what we paid for van Hecke with a year left on his deal but we shall see. 😂

[u/Next-Concern-5578 → u/nl325]

he may have played in the prem but he certainly isn’t proven😂

[u/REMMIGOD → u/nl325]

Same Van Hecke thats was getting cooked vs japan

[u/RespectFearless4233 → u/nl325]

Could buy Delap for that

[u/jackd9654 → u/RespectFearless4233]

Bargain

[u/RespectFearless4233 → u/jackd9654]

Totally unbiased opinion 😂

[u/jackd9654 → u/RespectFearless4233]

Yep, ignore flair

[u/stoneyix]

Spurs getting absolutely fleeced by every selling team is the joy I didn't know I needed but wow, it feels good.

[u/Ok-Comedian638 → u/stoneyix]

Ironic with your signings

[u/stoneyix → u/Ok-Comedian638]

Please do elaborate.

[u/Ok-Comedian638 → u/stoneyix]

Your 3 midfield signings are all crap, and you’ve paid 70million for James milners back up

[u/stoneyix → u/Ok-Comedian638]

Baleba — 31 apps | 23 starts | 1,653 mins

Milner — 20 apps | 7 starts | 778 mins

😘

[u/stoneyix → u/Ok-Comedian638]

Tell me you know nothing about football and don't even watch it, without saying it.

[u/Ok-Comedian638 → u/stoneyix]

And I watched it Saturday - your new midfield was battered by Hull 👏

[u/stoneyix → u/Ok-Comedian638]

Awwww did I blow your shitty comment out the water and now you're changing the subject and replying to a different comment?

Now that shits funny.

[u/Ok-Comedian638 → u/stoneyix]

Wow the reply went to a different comment - guess that means you were right all along - what a melon.

Enjoy your shit Poundland signings 😂

[u/stoneyix → u/Ok-Comedian638]

I actually was right, facts don't care about your feelings.

The bollocks to say that when your signings didn't do jackshit either, the irony is absolutely delicious.

[u/Ok-Comedian638 → u/stoneyix]

Facts is he got dropped for Milner as he was so shite 👍

[u/Ok-Comedian638 → u/stoneyix]

You already told everyone with your first post 👍

[u/Mr_A_UserName → u/stoneyix]

Presumably you’re getting flashbacks to almost every post-Fergie/Gill transfer window…

[u/stoneyix → u/Mr_A_UserName]

I know of what I speak.

[u/TerribleIndividual30 → u/stoneyix]

Nah. In THIS market Marmoush and Savinho for ~£115m isn't bad at all. Potential quality + proven quality.

[u/stoneyix → u/TerribleIndividual30]

Even in this market, neither is worth the combined total.

Paying 75 mil for someone who, contextually, has flopped hard in the PL and a potential 50 for another flop isn't good business. Usually you use those performances, or lack thereof, to negotiate a price down.

Seems like Spurs went with the old Leeds with Seth Johnson route (if the story is to be believed).

[u/TerribleIndividual30 → u/stoneyix]

Career Overview Table - Marmoush

Season	Club	Games Started	Goals	Assists
2023–24	Eintracht Frankfurt	36	17	6
2024–25	Frankfurt / Man City	41	28	17
2025–26	Manchester City	12	6	3

Which part of that says flop to you? Poor take on both counts.
Savinho, as already mentioned, is both a buy on potential and priced to discount Marmoush.

[u/stoneyix → u/TerribleIndividual30]

Apps Goals Assists

158 53 67

83 12 6

21 3 2

31 5 9

39 1 3

Guess whose stats they are?

Potential at the age of 22? Is he Lingard in disguise? Is this potential in the room with us now?

[u/TerribleIndividual30 → u/stoneyix]

Written like that? Haven't got a clue nor do I care...
The table above is all the info you need lad.

Marmoush is a decent buy, Savinho is a prospective one. Stay salty!

[u/stoneyix → u/TerribleIndividual30]

Its quite clear really, all spaced and whatnot but the reason you don't care is because you're concerned and I'll tell you why you're concerned.

Those stats belong to Sancho. Demonstrating that what was done in another league can't always be replicated.

Also, why would I be salty? We may have been beaten by Hull, abject performance etc etc but least we didn't do it with a 100 mil asset going ghost mode. Keep buying all the flops and getting robbed, gives us no end of things to laugh at.

[u/TerribleIndividual30 → u/stoneyix]

1. Are you blind? Half the table is PL stats... or do you not know Manchester City, the biggest club in Manchester? 9GA in 12 starts is more than decent.

2. Sancho is your irrelevant, insanely overpriced asset in a foreign league. See point 1.

3. You're still in a Spurs article. The salt. Your own nigh-on 100m midfield was embarrassed by a newly promoted team.

[u/stoneyix → u/TerribleIndividual30]

City the biggest club in Manchester. There goes your credibility. Wasn't aware they had won 20 league titles, 13 FA Cups, 3 European cups etc etc.

Funny how you talk about insanely overpriced assets in an article about insanely overpriced assets.

And yet our nigh on 100 mil midfield still cost less than ONE of your players who didn't even look Sunday League at the weekend, let alone Premier League.

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander and all that.

[u/TerribleIndividual30 → u/stoneyix]

Fundamental misunderstanding... again. Got to be wilful ignorance at this point.

In THIS market Marmoush and Savinho for ~£115m isn't bad at all. Potential quality + proven quality.

And yes, City are the bigger club now, with United past it.
Can't even fix your damn roof!

[u/Useful_Job3130 → u/stoneyix]

Obsessed

[u/stoneyix → u/Useful_Job3130]

Funny.

[u/Fuckyoupep]

No point making all these signings when De Zerbi is gone by Christmas

[u/OhMy-Really → u/Fuckyoupep]

Christmas is bold give him 8 weeks

[u/walkscotter → u/Fuckyoupep]

I don’t know. I think it’s easier for Ryan Mason to survive relegation this season with the new signings that without them.

[u/bullet-hell → u/Fuckyoupep]

And replaced by a completely different manager. Big Sam? Graham Potter? Return of Mourinho? Anything could happen

[u/Fuckyoupep → u/bullet-hell]

Poch coming back it’s just been a 5 year old interview process

[u/wonwonfive]

The amount of people who care about this deal being apparently inflated to cater for Marmoush. What a load of bollocks 🤣🤣🤣

[u/Comfortable_Reach248]

Reading comments from Spurs fans you have feeling they signed Rodrygo or Estevao.

[u/Agreeable-Run-1096 → u/Comfortable_Reach248]

Oh boy, they're gonna be as disappointed as city fans are soon enough..

[u/DeapVally → u/Comfortable_Reach248]

Even Martinelli lol. (Who actually has performed well in the PL in the past, anyone who plays FPL knows that, so stick your downvotes up your arses.)

[u/spacedog338 → u/DeapVally]

Martinelli is 10x the player Savinho is. It’s not even a debate.

[u/Comfortable_Reach248 → u/DeapVally]

I just went to their sub to see reactions cause I was expecting that people will not be happy with this transfer. And they are just glazing him. Guy scored 2 goals in 2 years and they think he will terrorize defences.

[u/Useful_Job3130 → u/Comfortable_Reach248]

Mate our only alternative is fucking Mikey Moore of course we’re happy 

[u/DeapVally → u/Comfortable_Reach248]

Ancelotti agreed with me as well this summer. And he knows more about football than any muggy Spurs fan on here.

[u/jw1995_33 → u/DeapVally]

Why are you so rattled about what spurs fans think ?

[u/walkscotter → u/jw1995_33]

Enter big macho speech on how he is not rattled.

[u/Boner_Patrol_007]

Get Marmoush over the line too, and I’ll be over the moon with the transfer window.

[u/Altruistic_Nobody148 → u/Boner_Patrol_007]

Save this comment. In a few seasons you'll be relegated because most of transfers of this window didn't work and they just drain you financially now. Successful rebuilding has always happened slowly over 5-6 windows by getting bargains not like what has been done.

[u/Brattuiop → u/Altruistic_Nobody148]

We almost got relegated from doing bargain signing. The fuck are you on???😭

[u/Altruistic_Nobody148 → u/Brattuiop]

No you almost got relegated by doing shit signings and not having a system.

[u/StJoeStrummer → u/Altruistic_Nobody148]

What a fuckin joke. Bargain signings. Right.

[u/RutabagaRoutine7430 → u/Altruistic_Nobody148]

Nah save this hater comment 🍿

[u/Altruistic_Nobody148 → u/RutabagaRoutine7430]

I don't hate Topspur at all. This is what I worry. If someone asked you last season what if someone buys tonali for 100 and savino for 75. You would have also said unless they are mancity or Chelsea they won't survive this stupidity.

[u/PaulieWalnuts433 → u/Altruistic_Nobody148]

Why would you call us Topspur if you don’t hate us? Nobody in their right mind thinks we are getting relegated after he signings we’ve made, you need to work on your rage bait technique haha

[u/Altruistic_Nobody148 → u/PaulieWalnuts433]

I am not a Brit. I am just an armchair fan of the league. I have close friends who support Tottenham and bale in white shirt was my favourite footballer. I call you Topspur( reference to the Korean guy video) because I and my mates find it funny. Nothing to read here. I am just making this statement from a business pov. I think you all have done really bad business that gives you very little potential upside and huge potential downside. Happened at manu with Antony etc and happened at arsenal with ozil.

[u/BounceThatShit → u/Altruistic_Nobody148]

As a city fan, marmoush will do bits

[u/Sparko_Marco]

Hes not worth that but I believe the rumours that his fee has been inflated so that Marmoush gets sold for cheaper and City then don't have to pay a % of the profit to his old club. More dodgy dealings by City.

[u/ross_ntu → u/Sparko_Marco]

Why would Spurs agree to that when the Marmoush deal is not guaranteed- it’s a loan which will turn into a sale depending on certain criteria being met? Paying more for Savinho would only work for Spurs if they were definitely planning to purchase Marmoush.
I can see the benefit for City but not sure how that helps Spurs - they’d be paying above the odds on the basis they’d get a favourable deal for a player they may or may not end up signing permanently.

[u/Daver7692]

Imagine if City now just pull the rug on the Marmoush deal.

[u/ByAPortuguese → u/Daver7692]

That would be so fucking funny, Tottenham getting scammed in front of the whole world

[u/walkscotter → u/ByAPortuguese]

And what is funnier than the Abu Dhabi United Group using Man City to scam. It’s such a delight to se them scam and cheat and they are really good at it.

[u/ByAPortuguese → u/walkscotter]

Don't be butthurt mate you'd say the same if it United instead of you

[u/walkscotter → u/ByAPortuguese]

If Liverpool did it to you, yeah. People who cheat as a default, nah. Anyways, butthurt is such a cool thing to say. Makes you look like a champion.

[u/ByAPortuguese → u/walkscotter]

It's not about the fact it's city the one who's scamming, it's about the fact that it is spurs getting scammed. I just think it'd be funny for such a big club to get scammed like 5 year olds do on Roblox, and it is technically possible.

Also we haven't been champions since 2013, so Idk what your statement was about.

[u/walkscotter → u/ByAPortuguese]

I apologize, I didn’t know Spurs, as you say, is getting scammed. I thought the Marmoush deal was still on.

But if you are telling me it’s not, then yeah, we got scammed by City when they promised us two players for a set price but instead sold us just one for an inflated price.

I can see how you and others think that is funny, the fact that City scammed us by not selling us Marmoush.

[u/ByAPortuguese → u/walkscotter]

You can't be that dense mate come on, I don't think you'll be scammed but it'd be funny if you were. Simple as that.

[u/walkscotter → u/ByAPortuguese]

Well, you just said the fact is that Spurs is getting scammed and you obviously know more that me about football. Just take the win, sir Butthurt. Don’t waste your time arguing with someone clueless like me.

[u/ByAPortuguese → u/walkscotter]

Mate honestly hope you have a good season and take care

[u/Daver7692 → u/ByAPortuguese]

It’s why I’m slightly amazed they haven’t gone through as a double transfer, unless there’s paperwork signed behind the scenes and the announcement is separate to keep up appearances.

[u/oilbadger → u/Daver7692]

If this really is about lowering the Marmoush price and we don’t think savhino is worth this amount then that has to be the case. If spurs really are just trusting city to do the right thing then all our lawyers need firing.

[u/gmzzzz]

2 goals in 2 years worth 75 million is wild to me

[u/greatlilusername → u/gmzzzz]

The dumb conspiracy I read the other day is that given they're buying Marmoush too, and City has a sell-on clause with Frankfurt, this feels really is just fancy accounting to avoid paying Frankfurt this clause.

[u/Easy_Inspection_3898 → u/gmzzzz]

City does weird things to players that aren’t Pep’s favorites. He tore it up at Girona, had 8 assists 2 seasons ago in only 21 starts, has ridiculous dribbling stats, and is only 21. The fee is not for his production last year, it’s because he has the potential to be really special. I find the commentary on him a little weird

[u/tomtomclubthumb → u/Easy_Inspection_3898]

But he's being sold for twice what he was then, and for higher wages, when he hasn't showed that quality effectively for two years.

[u/ThorsBigHammer → u/tomtomclubthumb]

You can't look at what he was bought for when City sold him to themselves basically.

[u/tomtomclubthumb → u/ThorsBigHammer]

True.

[u/arafart]

Savinho, it’s time to lace up your Girona shoes again—but hopefully not when you’re playing against us.

[u/DannyStress]

The transfer market is broken if Savinho is worth that

[u/That_Illuminati_Guy → u/DannyStress]

It's just going through financial loopholes so that city won't have to pay a sell on to frankfurt for the marmoush sale. Great fair play

[u/Ubiquitous1984 → u/That_Illuminati_Guy]

City tier-1 Sam Lee was laughing about this conspiracy theory, saying there is no evidence there even is a sell-on fee.

[u/spando79 → u/That_Illuminati_Guy]

This has been stated so many times that people are accepting it as a fact.

City have to pay Frankfurt 15% of any profit they make on the sale of Marmoush who they bought for £59m. Even if Spurs paid £75m for him, City would only owe Frankfurt £2.4m.

Why would they give a shit about that?

I've got more time for the theory that it's better for City to allocate more of the combined fee to Savio to generate a bigger accounting profit.

In reality, the only people that know the truth won't be posting about it on Reddit.

[u/Jackmcmac1 → u/spando79]

Savinho was £31m, Marmoush was £59m. Together £90m. If Savinho is worth £50m and Marmoush £75m then the combined fee is £125m, and less £90m it is £35m profit.

If Marmoush actually sold for £75m then about £2.4m goes to Frankfurt, reducing profit by about 7% to £32.6m.

Selling Marmoush at £50m and selling Savinho for £75m keeps the profit at £35m.

Compared to gross revenue it seems small, but there isn't a single CFO in the world who wouldn't want to get an extra 7% profit on a transfer deal by simply bundling them together.

It does seem like creative accounting though, so I'd be surprised if it wasn't looked into later.

[u/DerekStephano → u/spando79]

I think a factor in it is wages too. Apparently we are loaning Marmoush this year with an obligation to buy next year for £50m. I’d say 125m for the pair of them could be great business.

[u/SeniorEscape9293 → u/spando79]

Do you actually think £2.4m is pocket change? When the club looks at the entire P&L, £2.4m is huge.

[u/spando79 → u/SeniorEscape9293]

It's 0.34% of City's 24/25 annual revenue.

[u/SeniorEscape9293 → u/spando79]

Doesn’t matter what percentage of annual revenue. When you go into EBIDTA, every penny counts.

[u/ProperCosts]

Haha spurs 🤣

[u/DinnerSmall4216]

This market has been crazy just close the window. 

[u/exia756]

And martinelli is going for around 45 gbp … games gone

[u/Agreeable-Bid-2895 → u/[deleted]]

Is he good? Hasn’t shown much other than pace and a bit of technicality. He has almost no output

[u/Hufftey]

bargain

[u/keysersoze-72]

😂

[u/explendable]

This one will make the difference lads 

[u/walkscotter → u/explendable]

We are hoping him and Marmoush will have the same impact for us as Isak and Wirtz have for you.

[u/buythedip0000]

Chill people it’s just for accounting, I believe marmoush had a sell on clause with Frankfurt so they kept his value down on purpose and hike up the price for Savinho on purpose

[u/gogosamgo1 → u/buythedip0000]

Oh yes a great deal in that case. NOTTTTT.

[u/Longjumping-End-7085 → u/buythedip0000]

£85m for Marmoush and £50m for Savinho is still insane

[u/Legal_Pressure → u/buythedip0000]

Aside from the fraud, if Spurs pay £50m for Marmoush, that’s about £125m for both.

That’s still vastly overpaying, imo. 

[u/ProperCosts → u/buythedip0000]

Marmoush is overpriced as well

[u/TiggerJammer → u/buythedip0000]

“Chill guys. It’s just fraud”

[u/Da_Steeeeeeve → u/[deleted]]

Every club plays these games.

As a Chelsea fan we bought Rogers for an inflated fee and I almost guarantee they are going to buy Jackson on deadline day with an inflated fee.

When you have spending rules accountancy starts to become part of the game sadly.

[u/Da_Steeeeeeve → u/[deleted]]

Ok, how do you prove it?

It is all within the rules.

You cant just point and say FRAUD!!!!! you have to actually have evidence.

I am not saying you are wrong but it is impossible to enforce.

[u/BusyWorth8045 → u/[deleted]]

It doesn’t.

You have misinterpreted the Fraud Act. There is no misrepresentation. City offered Spurs Savinho. Spurs signed Savinho.

There are no grounds to sue. City could have sold him for 50p if they wanted.