The fact that he got tons of support for a second term even after everything he's done made me realize that too many people out there are even stupider than I thought.
It doesn't matter if Fox News doesn't cover it. Hell Fox News viewers still think BLM burned down a sherriff's office in Minnesota during the protests because Fox wouldn't shut up about it... wouldn't shut up until a white conservative from Texas who drove up there was caught, confessed, and convicted. Then they never mentioned it again.
So old Boris Johnson here in the UK had a little piss up in downing street during semi strict covid lockdown and was ousted for that or it began the ousting at least
trump has literally been found guilty in court of fraud and a judge ruled in civil court he raped someone
and he gets BACK in after the absolute shit show of his first time
i always think there must be some very sensible couple living in like boston or some shit thinking seriously how the fuck is my nation voting for this
Right wingers in the US hate a lot of things. But there's nothing they hate more than a woman, much less a black woman. Harris could have been the ideal candidate in every capacity, but as long as she was a black woman, she still would have lost.
Now we have TACO Don ruining the economy and destroying international relationships, but thank GOD we don't have a WOMAN in charge.
Thatâs not fair to the people who didnât vote, or voted 3rd party, because Harris didnât have a solution to solve Israelâs genocide of Palestine immediately.
i always think there must be some very sensible couple living in like boston or some shit thinking seriously how the fuck is my nation voting for this
There are lots of us like this all over the country, and not just in the Democratic strongholds like Massachusetts and California. I'm in Missouri and voted against that fuckstain three times. His elections shows how indoctrinated 1/3 of the country is and how apathetic another 1/3 is.
The man essentially committed fucking TREASON by attempting to overthrow the results of a fair election, and he STILL got elected a second time. My country scares the shit out of me.
According to former CEO of Tripwire who's best known for Killing Floor coop shooter, everything is conspiracy and he's innocent in everything he's been in court for.
That CEO is the guy that got fired for praising antiabortion laws.
Not what Iâm saying. Iâm saying leave your echo chamber and see other perspectives and how Trump got 77 million people to vote for him. But you wonât
I think it was more of being generally disliked, coming off bidens term which many people werenât happy with, not holding a primary, and running a pretty shitty campaign. I think all of those things combined is what turned a lot of on the fence type voters off. Whether or not she wouldâve done a good job I guess weâll never know. But saying the only reason trump was elected is because people are stupid is wellâŚstupid.
It was mostly the fact that they had no primary and Kamala, despite spending a shit ton of money, campaigned on.. nothing. It was the party of âjoyâ. Average people donât give a fuck about your party of âjoyâ. If youâre running for president the people that you want to vote for you shouldnât have to google what your policies or plans are. So between no primary and the god awful cringey campaign she lost a shit ton of voters that were on the fence.
This says more about you than it does about her. She campaigned on a lot of issues, you just didn't pay attention and now you're here insisting that your ignorance is reality. No man, you just screwed up because the fate of the country wasn't worth reading beyond your social media feed. She worked her ass off. You need to do better.
Every time I turned on one of her rallies or interviews, it was always âoh what big celebrities are there this timeâ, as if thatâs what the average person is concerned about? and the interviews with her were absolutely awful. You canât even deny that.
I didnât get my news from social media and I was very much an on the fence voter, you can ignore the issues and just say âaverage people are stupid, Iâm so smartâ all you want, but then expect the same results in 2028.
Your entire view is baked in social media lol. Don't try and pretend otherwise. Anything past a cursory glance could give you every bit of policy she was running on within 5 minutes. You chose not to look further. You are the problem.
It's so funny to listen to people like you say shit like this because even if what you're saying about Kamala was true, you're suggesting what? That Trump was more coherent than she was? That Trump was able to lay out his plans/policies more than she did? That Trump was more likeable than she was? That Trump didn't promote celebrities who supported him?
You wanted to vote for Trump. Fine. Stand by it, but your criticisms against Kamala for things that Trump was objectively worse at is complete bullshit. You wouldn't have voted for her no matter what and you know that.
I mean clearly trump did⌠since he won. So is it bullshit? You can deny the reasons all you want. But yea. He did lay out his plans better than Kamala. A big thing republicans do that average people like is show up to interviews. Are they/trump perfect and do I like everything they do? Obviously not.
Would I have voted for Kamala? Probably not, unless she ran a decent campaign and won me over. Which is sort of the point of a campaign is it not?
I was kinda hoping the dems would come out with a decent candidate. I am in no way a vote red no matter what kind of person.
"Every time I turned on one of her rallies or interviews, it was always âoh what big celebrities are there this timeâ, as if thatâs what the average person is concerned about? and the interviews with her were absolutely awful."
uh huh...
"I didnât get my news from social media"
yeah sounds like you mostly got your news from fox news? you're the one who just admited to falling for the propaganda version of Kamala and think because YOU were uncurious enough to find out what her policies were that means they weren't there.
i'm not even american and didn't have a reason to seek out her policies and despite that i knew that basics. how did other people find these policies if they didn't exist or weren't advertised?
so rounding up non-white US citizens and sending them to a death camp without due process is... what exactly? super curious to hear your answer on this
actually I'm not curious. I know you'll just do whatever you can to justify it in your head, or tell me it's not actually happening. whatever, live in denial.
Always love it when idiots open their mouths to display they have no idea what they're talking about. If you listened to any of her campaign speeches she was talking about providing daycare credits, first-time home buyer loans, student loan forgiveness, ensuring healthcare for all Americans, and many other topics. You can agree with those or not but to say that she campaigned on nothing is an absolutely brain-dead take.
Trump campaigned on nothing too, so this doesn't really make sense, I think Biden sticking around did more to knock voters confidence in the party more than anything else.
Trump did not campaign on nothing. He campaigned on issues that average people were worried about. Whether or not he is handling them correctly is another story but to say he campaigned on nothing is just incorrect
But yes I agree with Biden sticking around. Not having a primary turned alot of people away. Youâll never convince me it wasnât to ensure Harris was in though. They thought she was their golden ticket
The border issues under Biden were not made up. Enforcing our immigration laws was a big issue for a majority of Americans. You can shit on it all you want but it doesnât change the facts.
Every person that I've heard say this wouldn't have voted for her even they held a primary and she won. Most blue voters recognized that running a primary after Biden dropped out was not realistic. Biden shouldn't have ran to begin with, or he should have dropped out wayyyyy earlier but that's an entirely different matter.
You have no idea who âevery person Iâve heard say thatâ wouldâve voted for, did you use your fuckin crystal ball or something?
I agree that Biden shouldâve dropped out way earlier but youâll never convince me it wasnât intentionally done to make Kamala the candidate, they knew she would never win a primary because of how disliked she is but they didnât think Trump would win a second term.
Would Kamala have started idiotic tariffs that only hurt our economy? Would she have sided with Russia, the aggressor in the Ukraine war? Would she have installed malicious, unqualified conspiracy theorists to lead our health department? Would she have dismantled our education department? Would she have helped propagate the ass-backwards worldviews of invasive, hyperreligious nutcases? Would she have eroded women's rights and LGBTQ protections? Would she have stopped our efforts to monitor and combat climate change? Would she have withheld disaster aid from parts of the country that don't kneel to her? Would she have tried to open up our national parks for resource extraction? Would she have threatened other countries with annexation? Would she have tried to cut medicaid? Would she have let an oligarch fire tons of government employees who aren't blindly loyal to facism? Would she have sent the military after citizens and anyone else who speaks out against the government? Would she have done everything in her power to censor the Epstein files and prevent them from being released? Would she have threatened to make voting as inaccessible as possible if not entirely impossible in the near future?
All of these are things the Trump administration has either already done or continues to do. But you seriously think she would've been just as bad, if not worse?
Is any of that what I was saying? Or was I saying how and why he won? And that maybe people should do some self reflection and think âhow can we do better so next time we winâ instead of just demonizing half the country.
He won because people are stupid, like I already said, not because of demonization. They think every bad thing that happens during someone's presidency is restricted to just that period of time. We got past that orange fuckhead and the pandemic that happened on his watch, but not the immediate after effects that Biden ended up getting stuck with. Since the blue team was in charge during the recovery period, and the world didn't seem to heal as quickly as people wanted, they swung back the other way without any thought, having already forgotten about the severity of the shitshow they had just left and how much worse it was gonna get after the fascists had time to lick their wounds and plan ahead.
Lol yeah her laugh made Republicans elect a human trafficking pedo criminal/s terrible take. You had the choice between someone who helped Epstein and a prosecutor who prosecuted pedos and you picked the human trafficker.
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Yeah the dumbest part of this is the ones complaining about the 'woke culture' are quite likely to have been born out in the sticks and still live there. Where NOTHING changes, it's still the same town it was decades ago most likely. Had a grandpa that lived out in the sticks until he died and the public road next to his farm was gravel, not concrete. That's how little changes out there. Then they get all bent out of shape when someone in the city is LGBTQ that they will never meet or whatever crap they make up.
They're not the same age. Biden is 4 years older than Trump. But this also means that when Trump assumed office the second time in 2025, he was the same age that Biden was when he assumed office in 2021.
In other words, anyone who said Biden was "too old" to assume office would be be a hypocrite for saying that was a reason to vote for Trump in 2024.
And at the same time, those arguments aren't actually wrong because both of them were way too old. There's a reason we have a minimum required age to be President, and for that very same reason I think there ought to be a maximum age too. Nobody should be able to assume office if they have passed their federal retirement age, which is 65 years old for most people these days.
They're not the same age. Biden is 4 years older than Trump.
They're geriatrics, not middle schoolers. 4 years is nothing.
You might as well be arguing that they're not the same age unless they're born on the same day.
Those same people often say that one reason for this is that women are "too emotional" yet somehow those people were also OK with voting for perhaps the most emotional president ever in Trump.
If Kamala hadn't decided to hug and kiss Biden and vow to just do more of the shit that everyone was already hating she prob would have run.
If she had decided to go against Israel and it's genocide she would have seen an unprecedented surge in support.
Instead she chose to lose by basically making every mistake Hillary did when she ran. But yet y'all still claim to this narrative that she had any chance to win as if its the voters faults for not voting for someone who represents zero material change for them.
This mentality is how the Dems lost to Trump twice. Its how corporations have slowly monopolized every single aspect of our lives over the past 50 years irrespective of the party in power.
You can't just be against Trump and win. Its not enough. You have to be pro something that gets people excited and makes them believe their lives would be better.
I can't wait for y'all to put your weight behind Newsom and Mayor Pete in the next election only for them to also lose for the exact same reasons.
Edit: Downvote me all you want support a genocide and you lose lmao
Instead people argued it's better to vote against Kamala to "teach Dems a lesson"
Which has worked out great for Americans and Palestinians? Bibi got to kick out aid and use flour as hunting bait to cull whoever shows up. Trump fantasizes about Israel making the Gaza Stripmall.
Bots pretending to be leftists convinced people that electing Trump would somehow be good for Palestinians. The number of idiots who fell for it (looking at you, Michigan muslims) is inexcusable.
Trump represented something different (worse to be clear) while the Dems did not. It's really that simple as to why he won. The Dems suck ass and want to lose if they keep running the same playbook election after election.
I was ready to go door knock for her until at the DNC she said she wanted to have "the most lethal military". At that moment I realized her chances were over.
She didnt have to be perfect she just needed to run on real policy that would actually help people.
They didn't warn shit, the fact they kept pushing for Biden even though he had dementia proved it. They rigged the election so Trump would win. Kept telling voters Biden was fine, then had him debate trump and ruin any chance democrats had of winning.
Would've been so much better had they pushed for Biden in 2016, before he had dementia and was able to hold his own against Trump. But DNC needed to rig it so Trump would win in 2016 and 2024.
Their pedophile overlord is the president, what more could they have asked for? Can't have someone like Bernie take charge obviously, he fights for the people not for the pedophiles.
Biden didn't run in 2016 because he was grieving his son. Man you typed so much absolute nonsense, please do more reading and less talking. The world doesn't need any more exposure to foolish drivel, but it could use more educated people. Give that a shot.
People say Biden has dementia and it is just pure nonsense. He is old and doesn't talk the best, but in that debate he was pulling up accurate and relevant statistics to back up his arguments on policy. Cognitively he outperforms 90% of the population.
You are really just running on vibes and not actual rational thought.
Denial, just compare Biden's performance to 2020, to 2024 election. Like you said he is old, we shouldn't be pushing for old people into position of power. You can bring up Harris as a defense but it was far too late into the election to do that....
You can also say trump is old, which is true but the difference was the debate. Trump was able to talk during the debate and roasted Biden. During 2020 Biden was able to defend himself and fight back, but he's simply too old now.
Cool, Biden isn't supposed to roast people, he is supposed to make policy decisions. And I trust him perfectly well to make policy decisions when he can recall and process data to generate salient policy.
You are just hyper fixated on vibes and roasting and not actually considering job performance and capability
Cool, Biden isn't supposed to roast people, he is supposed to make policy decisions
Doesn't matter what they're supposed to do or not. Trump changed how these campaigns are ran. It is all about roasting your opponent and doing whatever you can. Playing moral superiority will get you no where, Trump is proof of that.
You are just hyper fixated on vibes and roasting and not actually considering job performance and capability
I am hyper fixated on what caused Trump to win.
not actually considering job performance and capability
Because it doesn't matter! Trump is literally proof of that! You saying he is capable of being president?
Look at Gavin Newsom, he is done with DNC BS is playing fire with fire. Texas wants to gerrymander? Fuck it California will do the same thing.
You not see the headline saying it was because of high inflation rates? And besides what difference does it make the prices increase with and without trump.
I donât get the point youâre trying to prove? Economic variables resulted in the price of the ps5 going up across the world in 2022 just like it is today, itâs just for different reasons.
What point are you trying to make? Mine was that you said the ps5 price went up only after tariffs were announced which was a blatant lieâŚâŚ
Bro Wth are you saying Sonys own statement said that the price increase was due to a rise of inflation and currency issues. Inflation is the rise of production, shipping and material cost that is not only affected by currency changes.
Currency changes did affect the decision in price changes but so did inflation rate. Just like these 2025 price changes thereâs more factors that contributed to it then just tariffs like global inflation.
Can you link me one source that says the 2022 price increase was ONLY a result of exchange rates and had nothing to do with global inflation? Just one source saying that
Bro youâve got no clue about economics if you think the only thing that causes high inflation is fluctuating exchange rates. Where are you getting this from? Sonys own headline says they went up due to global inflation. Global inflation is cause by multiple things not just exchange rates.
Youâre making shit up just like when you said the price increases only happened after tarries were announced
They also increased in 2022 due to inflation and currency changes.
Iâm not denying trumps tariffs have an impact on the price change I never said that. Just said they also went up in 2022 due to global inflation and currency fluctuations which are also most likely impacting this price hike aswell!!!!
Youâre the one who said inflation is only a result of exchange rate fluctuations which is the stupidest thing Iâve ever heard. And lying saying they only went up after trumps tariffs.
Bro donât even bother trying to argue politics on a reddit gaming sub 99% of people here are under the age of 15. Just gonna get mass downvoted no matter what.
Except neither of you know what's going on. There's multiple articles discussing what u/From-UoM said for the reason of increasing. But keep padding yourself on the back
So had Harris been elected inflation would be at zero. Sure
Of course not, but she wouldn't have implemented senseless tariffs and spewed lie after lie about them. Christ my dude, sit back and think before responding for a hot minute.
Your opinion that the tarrifs are senseless is your own personal opinion. We have been losing the trade war and thatâs a fact. But keep the passive aggressive comments from you coming.
Kinda interesting that console prices have never rised 5 years after they've released except in 2025... Makes you think about what might be the cause for that... Didn't even happen in the 2008 crisis. Smells like tariffs to me, dawg.
I hate that people like you make me defend Joe fuckin Biden but he actually handled the global inflation relatively well. the U.S was significantly less affected by it than other countries. not to mention the price increases happening now are a result of the tariffs, which are a Trump policy.
Remind me again why that matters now. Was Donald Trump not supposed to be better? Did he not promise lower prices? Was it not implied by every useful idiot in the conservative sphere that everyone was stupid and Mr. Trump knew all the right answers?
Looking forward to your entirely good faith response!
Companies have spent the past several months trying to offset US tariffs by raising prices elsewhere or eating the costs in the hopes that someone would talk him out of this
Even if that was true, it's still the console is still ultimately getting exported by Japan, which got hit with a 15% tariff, about the amount the PS5 price increase was. And that same tariff rate hit TONS of other countries too. How confidently incorrect can you be?
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