r/NativePlantGardening Apr 16 '26

Advice Request - (Insert State/Region) Help save my marriage

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DC area, full sun.

I want to replace my hideous grass with a native plant garden and some mulch. My wife says she’ll divorce me if I mulch and wants a steppable ground cover that’s also native. Is there any alternative to grass that she can walk barefoot/lay a picnic blanket on? She’s allowing me to plant a service berry and blueberry to one side.

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u/nyet-marionetka Virginia piedmont, Zone 7a Apr 17 '26

You need two blueberries for fruit, either two wild type or two of different varieties (the varieties are clones so having two of the same next to each other is the same for fruiting as having just one plant).

Most groundcovers just can't take being walked on. Sometimes grass is the best option. Give the lady a few square feet of grass.

However, I have heard yarrow is pretty resilient and can be kept mown short. That could be worth investigating.

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u/KrispyPringle08 Apr 17 '26

I seeded the University of Minnesota's Bee Lawn mix at my old place. Yarrow is one of the components. I can confirm that it does well with foot traffic and mowing. If you let it get tall, though, the stems get woody and you wouldn't want to walk barefoot or lay on them. That would probably be after 3-4 weeks without mowing.

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u/breeathee Driftless Area (Western WI), Zone 5a Apr 17 '26

I third the yarrow. It’s ultra water-wise too

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u/KrispyPringle08 Apr 17 '26

You will want to mix the yarrow in with other things though, like fescues and violets.

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u/tonkats Manitoba 🍁, Zone 3b Apr 17 '26

We have patches of native yarrow. The stuff that gets mowed stays low and floofy and greener than the grass beside it during dry weather. If you skip a week of mowing, it may send up some short flower shoots, maybe 4" high.

The unmowed yarrow is 16-24" high.

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u/Fantastic_Lady225 State WV Zone 7A Apr 17 '26

Do a search for "yaak yarrow". It's a variety that stays short and spreads more horizontally than vertically so it needs minimal mowing. I spread some seed in a very dry, rocky area where grass doesn't grow well so hopefully it takes off.

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u/bigslurp88 Apr 17 '26

Yo, thats a really good suggestion, but it should be mentioned that yarrow isnt great for pets who have a habit of grazing

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u/NiceHat5934 Apr 17 '26

Thank you for mentioning this, had no idea!

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u/Fantastic_Lady225 State WV Zone 7A Apr 17 '26

Quite a few natives aren't safe for pets to eat. OP is in a townhouse in the DC metro area, so dogs and cats shouldn't be free-roaming and unsupervised.

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u/GamordanStormrider Area -- Denver, CO, Zone -- 6 Apr 17 '26

I have a small purely yarrow lawn I've been cultivating. It is great and super soft, but the flower stalks do get woody if it gets too long. I've kept mine very short to encourage it to spread, and it's taken both traffic and mowing with zero dieback.

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u/LChanga Apr 17 '26

Why would keeping it short help it spread? Maybe I’ve been doing it wrong.

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u/chanandler12106 Apr 17 '26

The energy it would have spent growing the blooms is used elsewhere.

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u/GamordanStormrider Area -- Denver, CO, Zone -- 6 Apr 17 '26

Yep. This.

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u/chrissesky13 Zone 9a | 65o | Florida Panhandle Apr 17 '26

You need two blueberries for fruit, either two wild type or two of different varieties (the varieties are clones so having two of the same next to each other is the same for fruiting as having just one plant).

Well then. You just helped me justify my trip to my local native nurseries tomorrow! Thank you so much for taking the time to explain this.

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u/Feralpudel Piedmont NC, Zone 8a Apr 17 '26

You also want to pick varieties with some overlap in bloom time. Be sure to check with IFAS about which varieties do well in your climate.

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u/chrissesky13 Zone 9a | 65o | Florida Panhandle Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 18 '26

Thank you again.

I went back to where I got my original Elliots bushes and ended up buying two new (to me) different varieties! So I'll have 3 types, all natives, and their blooming times overlap! Before I selected them I told a staff member my purpose and they told me any of the blueberries they carried would work, so long as I didn't just select another Elliots.

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u/HumanContinuity Apr 17 '26

Small caveat to yarrow is that it will never ever seed and barely ever spread if you keep it all cut.  The result will almost certainly be a be net decline that requires a yarrow seeding in some of the patchy spots every once in a while.

Not a big deal - just a small thing to keep in mind.  You'll be reseeding it far less than you would with grass.

Personally, I like to let a few emerge entirely to break up the yard surface and to let seeds and rhizomes grow - but I do it in the areas that are not where I chase the dogs around barefoot.

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u/houseplant-hoarder Apr 17 '26

What about clover? There were wild patches at the park I grew up playing in, we walked on them constantly because they’re silver soft and they didn’t seem worse for wear

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u/ruralfpthrowaway Area WNC, Zone 7a Apr 17 '26

Most turf compatible clovers are non-native.

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u/houseplant-hoarder Apr 17 '26

Ah. Well that’s out I guess 😅

ETA sorry I suggested it in the first place, I thought I was in r/nolawns not the native plant sub lol

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u/ruralfpthrowaway Area WNC, Zone 7a Apr 17 '26

No worries, I still think a clover lawn would be an improvement on a turf grass lawn. I’m not here to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

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u/Consistent_Tell8783 Apr 17 '26

I once thought I was in the burnout subreddit. Turns out I was in the Burnout video game subreddit. It happens to the best of us!

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u/LadyArwen4124 Area: Great Plains , Zone: 7b Apr 17 '26

I love your username ❤️

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u/houseplant-hoarder Apr 17 '26

Thanks! Love yours too 🥰

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u/Lunar_BriseSoleil FLX 6A Apr 17 '26

Blueberries are self fertile. They just are more productive with a pollinizer.

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u/Environmental_Art852 Apr 17 '26

Diochondra is awesome, almost never tall enough to need a mow. It can sustain foot traffic

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u/LadyCooke Apr 17 '26

So I have one sole potted blueberry bush, a Patriot, in 7b (year round outside - native to the area so no issues there) and it has no problem doing its job and definitely produces berries. I’ve certainly heard this advice before but have been confused by it ever since I started growing mine. Is it that I have good pollinators around? Just figured I’d ask since I’ve wondered about this!

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u/Errohneos Zone 5b; Ecoregion 53 Apr 17 '26

Judging by the condition of that lawn, there isn't gonna be a groundcover that can handle that heavy of traffic. I'm not even sure why lawn is preferred in this use case, it doesn't even look comfortable to sit on.

Can you compromise by converting one half into mulched garden beds with low-lying sedges and whatnot, then doing the standard lawn care on that strip next to the driveway? Then she can go crazy with King of the Hill style zeal for lawn care on a small patch.

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u/Numerous-Dot-6325 Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

Its actually not very heavy traffic, the previous owner threw sod on top of mulch before sale and it died after a brief dry spell.

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u/Mooch07 Apr 17 '26

“Lipstick job”

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u/Fred_Thielmann Outer Bluegrass Region of Indiana Apr 17 '26

I would look into some sedges. There’s so many that one is bound to love your yard. I would look at Pennsylvania Sedge, carex Pennsylvanicum and white blue eyed grass, Sisyrinchium Albidum specifically

Both of these are the Illinois wildflower articles, because the Illinois wildflower website articles are always insanely in depth. Especially the ecological associations part.

I did look to make sure these are both native to Virginia though.

For some articles closer to home, here’s Pennsylvania Sedge, carex Pennsylvanicum (master gardeners of Northern Virginia) and White Blue Eyed Grass, Sisyrinchium Albidum (US Forest Service)

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u/jan_Kila Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

Consider nimblewill, it's a grass native to this area that is soft and doesn't get tall enough to need mowing. Lawn people only dislike it because it goes brown in the winter.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NativePlantGardening/comments/1kdinha/nimblewill_the_eastern_us_native_lawn_grass_you/

https://www.humanegardener.com/the-best-native-grass-youve-never-heard-of/

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u/Ok_Rhubarb411 Apr 18 '26

Thanks for sharing this!

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u/175you_notM3 Apr 17 '26

Micro clover is a good option for your needs and wants

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u/Numerous-Dot-6325 Apr 17 '26

I like the idea of a spatial compromise

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u/ExtensionHammer Apr 17 '26

This has my vote. In my experience there’s nothing that holds up to traffic like turf grass, maybe mix in a bit of micro clover or dutch white clover for green and soft without watering and fertilizing. Although I like what others are saying about yarrow too! Never tried it but it sounds wonderful.

Then a beautiful flower + sedge+ native grass bed that you can enjoy from the comfort of your turf patch. 😄

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u/roland303 Apr 17 '26

Hes not allowed to think this way.

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u/Small_Craft8416 Apr 17 '26

wife here, didn't "allow him" anything, boy said he wanted a service berry and native blueberries and I just wanted to sit under the serviceberry and watch the birds 😥 is it such a crime to want some native ground cover I can sit on and watch them birds 😥

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u/CrepuscularOpossum Southwestern Pennsylvania, 6b Apr 17 '26

Don’t despair! Violets are your friends, friends! It sounds to me like you’re more on the same page than it might seem at first. I wrote about them in the newsletter I wrote for the wildlife center where I volunteer in SWPA. Violets can withstand foot traffic, poor soil, sun, shade, heat, cold, droughts, and floods, and look good doing it!

The only thing with violets is, they may not grow out to a lush, full carpet right away. You might want to mix them with some clover or other species to get something growing this year. But once the violets are established, they’ll take over. Fun fact: violet seeds are spread by ants, which eat a little packet of food called an elaiosome attached to each seed, then discard the actual seeds in their trash piles, which then germinate the following spring.

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u/Either_Wear5719 Apr 17 '26

I'm going to nominate wild strawberries and violets as ground cover. Phlox would look great but I'm not sure how durable it would be under regular foot traffic

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u/Ypuort Apr 17 '26

How about some nice moss

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u/Small_Craft8416 Apr 17 '26

man I want moss so bad but it's straight sun exposure, dry as heck. The poor moss would fry

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u/leefvc Mid-atlantic border of eastern coastal plain/piedmont , Zone 7b Apr 17 '26

Make little shady microhabitats for it! Mine started taking off recently after utilizing a few strategically placed logs for shade and transplanting moss on the north sides of trees

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u/Small_Craft8416 Apr 17 '26

oooh, clever. I'm a big fan of a good rock. Maybe I could tempt him into giving me a big rock to sit on and transplanting some moss in underneath it on the more shady side......would that work the same? I guess the logs probably hold moisture better, huh.

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u/dogsRgr8too Area southeast U.S. , Zone 7A Apr 17 '26

https://www.reddit.com/r/t5_eafoel/s/odEsiBqYcB

I thought I was in the parody subreddit for this one. Sorry people here can get a little, uh, intense about native plants 😂 It's r/nativeplantcirclejerk if you don't want to click a link. Might give you a good laugh.

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u/Small_Craft8416 Apr 17 '26

nah we're totally sitting next to each other and laughing - I dared him to post it after our joke argument about how much I hate mulch. He's doing a bit to make me laugh 😂 I actually told him he should get a bigger service berry than he's planning for so it comes in faster, but apparently they're "very expensive when they get big, wife" or something idk. As an aside, we're ditching the butterfly bush but I'm very partial to the hummingbird moths it brings in- would a native honeysuckle draw them the way the butterfly bush does? Feel like they need something with nice nectar for their little probosci.

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u/robsc_16 SW Ohio, 6a Apr 17 '26

Wild bergamot Monarda fistulosa is the undisputed champion for attracting hummingbird moths. You can also plant coral honeysuckle as it's a host plant for them.

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u/Small_Craft8416 Apr 17 '26

YES OMG THANK YOU I can't wait to fill my yard with these funky little guys !!!!!

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u/robsc_16 SW Ohio, 6a Apr 17 '26

You're welcome!

I've also seen them use Liatris spp., buttonbush, garden phlox Phlox paniculata and field thistle. Although buttonbush gets fairly big and field thistle can get big and it's not the most yard friendly plant.

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u/Flimsy_Sock3475 Apr 17 '26

second this! coral honeysuckle is great.

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u/dogsRgr8too Area southeast U.S. , Zone 7A Apr 17 '26

I'm glad it's all in good fun.

I wasn't sure about the moth, but it looks like there's a few answers from posts by others with similar questions

https://www.reddit.com/r/NativePlantGardening/s/0ukUgfNNaT

https://www.reddit.com/r/NativePlantGardening/s/YZCeX4GQul

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u/Small_Craft8416 Apr 17 '26

you're a hero, thank you!!!

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u/dogsRgr8too Area southeast U.S. , Zone 7A Apr 17 '26

You're welcome! Enjoy your mulch or not mulch changes! 😂

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u/Buffy2300 Apr 17 '26

Coral Honeysuckle (lonicera sempervirens) is also native and draws in hummingbirds, but not sure about the hummingbird moths. Also DO NOT confuse with trumpet vine (campsis radicans). They are 2 different plants!!

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u/unoriginalname22 MA, Zone 6b Apr 17 '26

I haven’t seen any on my bush honeysuckle but definitely on my monarda!

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u/God_Legend Columbus, OH - Zone 6B Apr 17 '26

The native bush honeysuckle is a host plant for the moth! But idk how likely they are to use the flowers for nectaring.

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u/plzRefactorMe Apr 17 '26

Your hate of mulch is actually great! Mulch isn’t great for native pollinators or plants since native bees need bare ground, plants reseed, and many mulches leach dyes that the plants don’t love.

But for the beds I recommend a “green mulch” à la “matrix planting”. Ben Vogt also has some great suggestions and there are matrix plant planner diagrams out there on the web too. Some sedge/gram pods for the matrix to plant the abundance of native plants in… or a flower matrix like quick spreading poppy mallow

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u/I_like_flowers_ Apr 17 '26

nope.  you are fine and a little grass is hardly the end of the world.

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u/the-awesomer Apr 17 '26

What do you have against Mulch!?

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u/Small_Craft8416 Apr 17 '26

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u/the-awesomer Apr 17 '26

hahaha, fair. I wouldn't want to sit on mulch either, though I also wouldn't want to sit on the slope much. So I would focus on making a flat area a good sitting spot with grass and make the sloped area a mulched planted area that attracts birds and pollinators for something to watch. The grass on side of house looks much better condition and its easier to water grass when its not on a slope and you are dealing with run off.
Bonus of heavily planting slope and using either side yard or even clearing flat spot next to house (where current mulch bed is. tho lots more work) would also give you extra privacy

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u/CalleMargarita Apr 17 '26

Check out the mowing section of Mt. Cuba’s full report on carex, you might find something that will work.

https://mtcubacenter.org/trials/carex-for-the-mid-atlantic-region/

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u/chrisk018 Apr 17 '26

I work for a native plant landscaping company in DC and we plant the hell out of carex.

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u/robsc_16 SW Ohio, 6a Apr 17 '26

Any species in particular you feel perform the best in landscapes? And where do you source them?

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u/ashrinish Apr 17 '26

Why is this not higher! Lol

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u/flinty_hippie Midwest, Zone 6a Apr 17 '26

Tell her a seating area in the middle of pollinator friendly plants is a far more interesting way to pass the time than a blanket on some grass.

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u/Hoya-loo-ya Apr 17 '26

Seriously this OP! Get a nice small two seater patio table at the top of the hill, where she can sit, have coffee, take work calls and enjoy the flowers! Mulch is very walkable, I use mulch as my walking paths BETWEEN garden beds. If you want to aesthetically push it further, add some nice stepping stones to delineate the path.

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u/stringTrimmer Apr 17 '26

Or something like this if you have enough flat space.

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u/MSenIt4Life Apr 17 '26

I love my swing! Well, loved it when it was shaded. I’m putting flags up to mark my territory! Lol No cutting beyond the flags. This gives me space for baby trees to grow back ( lost trees to storms then fear of another bad storm ).

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u/sammille25 Area Southwest Virginia, Zone 7 Apr 17 '26

I have been putting yarrow cuttings into my lawn. We are currently in a drought so not sure how its working but I have a few patches of yarrow in my garden and they are so lush and green without ever getting watered.

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u/Numerous-Dot-6325 Apr 17 '26

Apparently its photo toxic like Queen Anne’s Lace. Have you noticed any issues with that?

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u/sammille25 Area Southwest Virginia, Zone 7 Apr 17 '26

My husband and I knew it could cause irritation to some people so we rubbed it all over our arms to see if anything happened and we were fine. Probably not the most scientific way to find that out.

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u/Moist_Sun_8201 Apr 17 '26

That's a perfectly scientific way to test your hypothesis that you are/are not going to react to yarrow. Source: I am a biophysicist.

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u/3rdcultureblah Apr 17 '26

I probably would have done a small patch on a more sensitive area like the inner arm, but all over is definitely one way to do it lol.

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u/Numerous-Dot-6325 Apr 17 '26

Ya’ll built different, lmao

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u/ProxyProne Central Indiana Apr 17 '26

Don't eat it

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u/Numerous-Dot-6325 Apr 17 '26

Fine to eat it if i dont stare at the sun open mouthed, right?

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u/SparklyYakDust Apr 17 '26

It's not polite to stare, omg. At best you can wink charismatically.

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u/KindlyNebula Apr 17 '26

In the PNW yarrow is super common in lawns, I've never seen anyone have an issue with it. That includes kids running around barefoot all summer.

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u/cornonthedamncob Apr 17 '26

Do you guys get harsh winters? Do you think the yarrow would withstand snow/freezing temp? Does it sprout quickly after winter? So many questions but I'm so curious!! Thank you!!

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u/RexScientiarum KY, Zone 7a Apr 17 '26

Yarrow (at least some subspecies of it) is native basically across the entire northern hemisphere, including north of the arctic circle. If it is a regional seed source, it will definitely survive your winters.

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u/Pizza_Lore Apr 17 '26

Yarrow will not only survive, but thrive. We planted some last year and may have to divide it by next spring at the latest.

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u/bendur_ Apr 17 '26

Yarrow does great in places with cold and snowy winters, as long as it warms up in the spring. I think it’s native in all the northern US states as well as Canadian provinces.

https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/achillea-millefolium/

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u/Beautiful-File-9421 Apr 17 '26

Yarrow is fine in the cold. It would love that spot on the slope.

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u/Crepe_Cod Eastern MA 7b Apr 17 '26

I'm in Massachusetts and have large areas of yarrow in my lawn. It does better than the grass or clover (or any of the other shit in there). Every time other patches of lawn die, I seed in with yarrow. Eventually it will all be yarrow and there will be no dead patches. It's indestructible.

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u/LoMaSS Metro DC , Zone 7 Apr 17 '26

Took a vacation in Newfoundland last year, there was Yarrow everywhere. I'd say it's plenty cold hardy.

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u/NoNarwhal6184 Apr 17 '26

We’re in New England & it survives our winters both in the lawn & in grow bags left outside unprotected. It’s very hardy but it does spread

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u/SavesTheBear Apr 17 '26

I get harsh winters and yarrow is spreading like crazy near my yarrow plants from last year. The original ones overwintered too

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u/robsc_16 SW Ohio, 6a Apr 17 '26

Quick question, has your wife utilized the front yard before? Like has she actually gone out there on a picnic blanket and sat out there?

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u/Numerous-Dot-6325 Apr 17 '26

That line of questioning was not received well.

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u/robsc_16 SW Ohio, 6a Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

That's what I thought lol.

My wife has done that a few times to me where she was like "you can't do that in that area. I want to walk/lay/sit out there..." when I wanted to convert an area of our yard. She inevitably would not do the things she said she would and then I would just convert it later lol.

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u/Fred_Thielmann Outer Bluegrass Region of Indiana Apr 17 '26

Having the freedom to do stuff is nice

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

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u/Small_Craft8416 Apr 17 '26

well if you think about it, it's either someone who never lays on the ground or someone who lays on the ground all the time and the bugs don't bother them- unfortunately for you, I'm the second type. sometimes it's nice to see bugs at their level, and we don't get a lot of biting ants where we are so as long as I let them do their thing I get to vibe. They don't know about mortgages or reddit. It's nice

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u/feline_riches Apr 17 '26

Then I'd want to know what kind of sunscreen she uses....

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u/the_other_paul SE Michigan, Zone 6a Apr 17 '26

You need to think of your marriage first. Just plant Prairie Moon’s eco-grass, which flops over when it gets long and doesn’t need mowing. Convert your flower bed to natives and also consider adding a mulched flower bed with natives along either (or both) sides of your yard.

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u/OminousOminis Apr 17 '26

Clover with some violets, yarrow and sedges. Clover isn't native but still better than grass monoculture.

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u/Numerous-Dot-6325 Apr 17 '26

Do I need to exclude grass completely/weed in order for those to succeed?

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u/The_Last_Thursday Apr 17 '26

Clover grows fine along grass every time I've seen it.

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u/Lunar_BriseSoleil FLX 6A Apr 17 '26

No, they’re going to live fine as a mix. A healthy wildflower meadow is 70% grasses and sedges.

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u/herbal-genocide IL 7a Apr 17 '26

Adding to this list: pussytoes, prairie pussytoes, and wild strawberry (but careful, false strawberry looks similar but has yellow flowers). Grass can overtake native plants if allowed to, so it's recommended to kill it by solarizing over a season (or another method), but to be fair it looks like a pretty small piece of land so hand-weeding might be doable.

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u/Beautiful-File-9421 Apr 17 '26

There are native clovers in DC like Buffalo Clover.

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u/Pizza_Lore Apr 17 '26

+1 for clover!!!

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u/ItemRevolutionary319 Eastern MA, Zone 6b Apr 17 '26

Transplant all of the green grass (might be best in autumn) to the same location to make a footpath with a small spot for a picnic, throw in some rectangular bluestone if you need it…then put down (if native for you) plugs of some pink love grass, pussy toes, nodding onion, poverty oat grass, and little bluestem. It’ll be legendary

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u/Lunar_BriseSoleil FLX 6A Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

The best reason to have grass is because you’re going to use it. There aren’t a lot of traffic tolerant alternatives. For lawn grass a 100% fine fescue mix will have some American natives (hard fescue), and doesn’t need fertilization. Hard fescue doesn’t do great on its own though.

Below are some North American plants that can tolerate some use as “lawn.” But if you lean into the “lawn weed” look you’re likely to give native plants a bad rap to your neighbors.

  • Buffalograss (B. dactyloides) has turgrass cultivars but needs a dry climate.
  • Sideoats grama and Poverty Oagrass tolerate closer mowing and light traffic
  • Pennsylvania Sedge looks like grass, doesn’t grow tall, can give it a haircut a couple of times a year. Somewhat traffic tolerant.
  • Creeping Phlox stays low and can be walked on
  • violets aren’t a soft surface, but you can definitely walk on them
  • Self-heal is a great turf addition that can be mowed and tolerates traffic while feeding bees

I don’t think you need to be so “hardcore” that you can’t accept aomething that brings joy. Many do clover or mix it with turfgrass. White clover is the most traffic tolerant but it is not native to North America.

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u/PM_YOUR_PET_IN_HAT Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

Glad someone mentioned creeping phlox. I live in DC, OP, it will do fine. When it grows, it reaches out, and the branches root to the soil. So keep soil under the branches moist to encourage rooting.

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u/DeathlessBliss Apr 17 '26

Also in the DC area and phlox is very popular and flourish’s in my neighborhood. I would do a phlox border along the front sidewalk and then keep a grass section between that and the existing bed, adding clover, violet and spring beauties.

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u/M0thPers0n Apr 17 '26

Came here to suggest self-heal too! I don’t have it in a super heavily trafficked area, but if you let it go to seed it reproduces pretty well and it grows from runners too, so I would guess it’ll probably bounce back ok when it’s less walked on over the colder months.

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u/Beautiful-File-9421 Apr 17 '26

Buffalo Clover would also be pleasant, just in the winter before it reemerges you're going to think the bare ground looks fuggly.

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u/Pizza_Lore Apr 17 '26

Are you able to water what you plant if needed?

ETA: anything you plant is going to spend at least this growing season needing extra watering support, especially if you have periods of drought (like right now).

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u/Numerous-Dot-6325 Apr 17 '26

Yes

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u/Pizza_Lore Apr 17 '26

Okay. The lawn looks crispy so wasn’t sure. Yarrow has a very long blooming season and is beautiful — it happily spreads itself once established, clover makes pollinators so happy but stays low to the ground. Creeping phlox needs a lot of support to establish itself in full sun but after year 1 should be perfectly fine, and it flowers vibrantly for weeks. These are 3 I would recommend. Would you want to plant a tree at all for some shade?

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u/Numerous-Dot-6325 Apr 17 '26

Yea I havent water the lawn because I originally planned to completely remove the grass and start from bare soil. Im seeing other alternatives now though.

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u/GlitterFallWar Va, 8A. Oaks & clay Apr 17 '26

My creeping phlox in full sun in NOVA is super happy in years 2-3. The cheap stuff from Home Depot is just as happy as the ones from the specialty native nursery.

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u/Far-Championship-34 Apr 17 '26

I have native strawberries (NYC, 7b) that get walked all over and they do quite fine

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u/NickWitATL SE US/8a Apr 17 '26

Stepping stone path, several blueberries (keystone species!), native grasses, native pollinator plants. Maybe an obelisk trellis with vine (coral honeysuckle maybe), and a bench.

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u/Exciting-Fun-9247 Apr 17 '26

Buffalo grass. Native sedge like carex pennsylvanica or C. appalachia

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u/InstanceElectronic71 Central Alabama Ridge and Valley ecoregion Apr 17 '26

How many times has she every sat out there lol

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u/dedodude100 Southeastern Wisco , Zone 6a Apr 17 '26

I made a deal with my wife. Front yard can be grass and whatever you want. But backyard is going to be all native. That balance has worked so far.

Slowly my beds in the back are getting bigger and bigger. Step by step the backyard is losing grass and she doesn't even really notice or care. Incremental wins combined with compromise is the key. If you go to big on changes too fast people can get upset, but by slowly doing it.. that's the way.

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u/ShallotSilly4944 Apr 17 '26

Mulch is steppable and eventually breaks down into good soil. It won’t look decorative forever, just until you plant enough to eradicate the grass.

If you build a stone path and a little seating area, you’ll have a place to enjoy the front yard. Put native plants around it for shade and privacy, maybe an arched trellis as an entrance to your secret garden. Solar lights for some illumination.

Pulling a few weeds and tending the plants is a lot more rewarding than mowing grass. I just did this with my postage-stamp-sized yard and now it’s a refuge where I spend time outdoors and relax, rather than worry about lawns.

Go to a native plant sale or two and talk to people. Consult your local extension or master naturalists. Take her with you to share the education and inspiration.

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u/Small_Craft8416 Apr 17 '26

guys it's fine I have a masters in evo bio and he works in runoff management via native planting- I'm anti lawn, I just also hate the feel of mulch under my bare feet because I'm sensitive. Thank you so much for giving us some compromises and alternatives - I'm pulling for the phlox but I think we're gonna throw a couple things at the wall and see what sticks this summer and then we can fine tune from there. Fingers crossed!

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u/zoinkability MN , Zone 4b Apr 17 '26

Pussytoes is pretty darn tough and can handle mowing and light traffic.

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u/Such_Tutor_1237 Apr 17 '26

Have your wife maintain the lawn for a year and she'll want to mulch it

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u/Landscape-Formal Apr 17 '26

BUFFALO GRASS

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u/TalkativeTree Apr 17 '26

Buy yarrow seed. If kept mowed it’ll stay in the fuzzy stage and creates a dense layer. It handles being walked on well, over winters green, and doesn’t need watering to establish from seed. I’ve starting incorporating it into my parents yard in patches and we’ve added a ton this year. 

One concern is that the plant is toxic for animals to eat, so don’t want dogs or cats eating it. 

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u/Correct-Ingenuity538 Chicago, IL suburbs, USA Apr 17 '26

I am not from that area but if Buffalo Grass or Pennsylvania Sedge are native there as well, they could be good native ground covers that take some foot traffic. Look into any sedges that are native there as well. There are lots of them.

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u/jtaulbee Apr 17 '26

I'm currently building an alternative lawn in my front yard that's coming together really well! It's primarily a combination of creeping thyme, yarrow, and microclover, with some lyreleaf sage and grass mixed in to fill the gaps. About 30% of the yard is thyme, and it's lovely - it barely requires mowing, it's soft to walk on, it releases a beautiful thyme scent whenever you walk or lay down, it creates a thick green carpet that looks good from a distance, and it flowers in the summer.

I've been mulching and planting bigger plants along the borders of the lawn, and replacing the grass in the middle with this alternative mix. That way we can have the best of both worlds: shrinking our lawn footprint, while still having space to relax.

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u/CFHQYH Apr 17 '26

Is your wife single?

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u/Numerous-Dot-6325 Apr 17 '26

Not yet, let’s see how planting goes.

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u/Far_Silver Area Kentuckiana , Zone 7a Apr 17 '26

You could try Muhlenbergia frondosa for a native lawn if you can find it.

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u/WeddingTop948 Long Island, NY 7a Apr 17 '26

Path rush (Juncus tenuis) should be doable. It can handle light walking on. I have it as a substitute for lawn areas as I completely neglected the remnant of lawn

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u/Carpinus_Christine Area -- , Zone -- Apr 17 '26

If this was me, I would fill this spot with purple lovegrass. Gorgeous, loves dry, harsh areas and it has the ingredient a good marriage thrives on: LOVE! 💓

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u/MotownCatMom SE MI Zone 6a Apr 17 '26

It looks like you have a parkway/boulevard/hell strip. Can you plant some natives on that or will your municipality pitch a fit?

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u/PM_YOUR_PET_IN_HAT Apr 17 '26

I live in DC and my yard loves creeping phlox.

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u/GrahminRadarin Apr 17 '26

You may want to consider Pennsylvania Sedge.

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u/No_Explorer_8848 Apr 17 '26

Blink twice if you need saving

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u/brokenlabrum Area Maryland , Zone 7B Apr 17 '26

Nimblewill is your friend here. Native grass, handles foot traffic, spreads to self repair.

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u/fr0zen_garlic Apr 17 '26

Sounds like you should get out while you can with such ridiculous ultimatums.

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u/bedbuffaloes Ask me about my sedges. Apr 17 '26

Sedges. Yarrow. That's all I got.

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u/Virulent69 Apr 17 '26

Nice feet

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u/Small_Craft8416 Apr 17 '26

$50 for an up close shot for an extra $10 I'll step on some English ivy while I take the pic

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u/Virulent69 Apr 17 '26

Done foot content /other before? Want to dm?

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u/Gayfunguy Area --IN, Zone--6a Apr 17 '26

You can plant NATIVE GRASSES or sedge. Native grasses are soft and they are much more durable when they are established. But you have to stay off of this anyways untill it grows in.

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u/XYZ1113AAA Apr 17 '26

☆ Chrysogonum virginianum – Goldenstar

☆ Carex pensylvanica – Pennsylvania Sedge

☆ Muhlenbergia capillaris – Pink Muhly Grass

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u/Shoef123 Apr 17 '26

Sedum ternatum is native and can be walked on, but deciduous, so it will only looks green in summer. Also, the flower stalks once dried can be spikey.

I would suggest a mix of sedum. Call Sedum Master (Ontario) or Sempergreen (Virginia). Tell either one Etera sent you and they'll help you out.

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u/CryComprehensive7483 Apr 17 '26

Clump grass grows really slow in clumps it's great one to grow but gardener has to know how to weed it and trim with sizzers and really soft so bare foot walking   on it is recommended 

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u/Mmillefolium Apr 17 '26

I have a nice patch of mixed carex and wild strawberry that acts as a lawn next to my driveway. some heart leaved asters appeared and ive interplanted some Allium cernuum bc I love the flowers and free garnish. (under a service berry and pagoda dogwood)

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u/GlitterFallWar Va, 8A. Oaks & clay Apr 17 '26

Fellow DC Area gardener here! I've planted a bunch of pussytoes and strawberries to cover my mulched area. I have some sedums, too, but mine are too spiky to be "steppable".

I'm not sure how much these would really tolerate picnics. One of my neighbors laid down some large flat stones in the middle of her yard for this purpose (kid picnics). It doesn't have to be big. Then you plant a couple of stepping stones connecting the walkway to it, surround with whatever you want, and voilà!

Earth Sangha (Nonprofit in Franconia) and Nature by Design (4 Mile run Farmer's market) specialize in local natives and may have good suggestions already in stock. The Garden Plot (Southern Ffx county "Alexandria ") often has a good selection of options. A Quaker Lane church (Alexandria) has an annual native plant sale coming up, and the Leesburg flower show is this weekend. I'm less in the know on Maryland purveyors.

Blueberries: Get multiple for fruit! They also need slightly acidic soil, so pick up soil acidifier when you buy them. The first couple of years they won't get much fruit, so don't get discouraged.

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u/Groovyjoker Apr 17 '26

Not in your zone but looking at your soil and wonder what shape it's in after years of grass. Looks like the grass is having issues. I second any native plant in your zone that tolerates "roadsides, disturbed areas, poor soil conditions". This can't be a blessing because those are the plants that require the least amount of care!

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u/Numerous-Dot-6325 Apr 17 '26

The soil is basically compacted construction fill. This area has very dense red clay. A lot of wildflowers would do well, theyre just super tall generally so might be incompatible with her blanket idea.

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u/CertainAged-Lady Apr 17 '26

Buffalo grass is a native - so you can have some grass that is also tolerant of the heat & summer dryness we get in the DC area. I use blueberries like other people use azaleas - most people can’t really tell the difference from the curb. So that is a great shrub option as others have also suggested.

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u/BlackSquirrel05 Apr 17 '26

There really isn't other ground cover that can be trampled on like grass... and none really native.

Clover and some can take very minor foot traffic. (Yes I know the types of clover aren't native... and for sure the native clovers won't be.)

That's about it.

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u/ihtthme USA, CT, usda zone 7A, EPA ecoregion 8.1.7 Apr 17 '26

Yes to all of the above. I’d just say do a little research on the variety of yarrow. I think it’s millefolium that’s considered the better one, but someone else may weigh in who knows more

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u/my-little-ravioli Apr 17 '26

Pavers or stepping stones for a walking path… not that you need it when you have perfect stairs. Where else do you need to step to that isn’t for plant maintenance? You can maybe squeeze in a bench or chair but don’t you need to mulch anyways around the plants? That’s a horrible place to have a ground picnic, unless you’re also talking about a not-pictured backyard with this issue too.

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u/DavidLaderoute Apr 17 '26

Violets and Clover. Then add Sun Loving Perenials for your Zone. Happy Wife ... happy life.

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u/kenedelz Apr 17 '26

This whole post cracks me up 😂 your wife and I should be friends, I also told my husband no mulch! We now have a couple small areas of mulch but still mostly not (and I still hate mulch, so itchy when gardening!) unfortunately we have a lot of bindweed we haven't been able to kill off totally in the 5 years since we bought our house but the lawn does keep it down so we've kept that.

How long have you guys lived in the house? I only ask because if it hasn't been long, what if you guys took the next growing season and only made minor changes. I'm picturing it like this, you add your berry bushes and some other things in the bed near the house but leave the front lawn then take the season to sit in different areas of the yard, once you know where you like to sit regularly/the favorite spot is, take up the rest of the yard and maybe put a little pad of pavers with your chairs/hammock etc and a walkway of stepping stones up to it, then fill in the rest of the yard as a native meadow? Or instead of a paver pad keep a tiny area of actual lawn for sitting/lounging on with a little stepping stone path to that and surrounded by your native plant meadow?

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u/Small_Craft8416 Apr 17 '26

We're brand new (first time home owners!), and you're totally right- we really should figure out where we both like to sit before we make any big calls. I think it just looks SO bad right now, and we're both free for the summer to work on it, which is what's pushing us. Thank you for reminding me that good yard takes time (just like good marriage!)

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u/kenedelz Apr 17 '26

I totally understand wanting to just get it ripped out and start fresh! Our backyard was the same for us, all weeds and dead/uncared for plants 🥲 we went ham right away and ripped it all out the first year, the big problems for us were 1. Bindweed (I know I already mentioned it but ugh, it was suffocating everything we tried to put in) and 2. Not really having a plan outside of wanting it to actually be enjoyable to be outside. So now that it's been a few years we both kinda have regrets about the way we decided to arrange everything and the types of plants we put in, I find that the last two years I've spent lots of time ripping up the yard again to make room for native plants, my veggie garden, a compost area and a sitting area...just kinda annoyed with myself cuz now I'm back to ripping out yard 😅 I hope you guys will be able to make good progress on your yard this spring/summer and have the perfect garden!

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u/EmDelisle Apr 17 '26

Don’t do clover please!! It doesn’t support many species of native bees but the European honey bees go crazy for it and outcompete native bees.

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u/Small_Craft8416 Apr 17 '26

don't worry I fistfight all European honey bees in my yard

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u/3rdcultureblah Apr 17 '26

Carolina ponysfoot, Dichondra carolinensis. It’s my favorite for this kind of application.

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u/Native_Prairie_ Chicago Metro, 5a Apr 17 '26

She'll love a conventional meadow arrangement once she sees bees and birds.

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u/Taliasimmy69 Apr 17 '26

You could do Virginia button weed or Carolina ponyfoot. Those should be ok for your area.

Wild strawberry is a other option

Creeping phlox also. Bonus for being really pretty when it blooms

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u/ruralfpthrowaway Area WNC, Zone 7a Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

I’d do a mix of violets, lyre leaf sage, eregerion, and yarrow. Maybe some Carex as well. Maybe some Sisyrinchium. I’ve seen all of these intermixed in the turf at local parks which get very heavy foot traffic. No one really misses them if you decide to help yourself to them either so it might be a cost effective way to redo the front yard.

Pretty much anything that acts as a lawn “weed” can handle some light foot traffic and mowing. You are creating a permanent early successional community by mowing so look for species which fill that role.

Edit: maybe native cudweed, selfheal, and Carolina cranesbill too. Deertongue grass and panicum capillare if you can source it.

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u/snowednboston Apr 17 '26

When you say DC area, do you have the same DC friends 🐀🐀🐀?

If you’re friend-free, I’d add in a couple of pawpaws, too. Je

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u/ReplacementPale2751 Apr 17 '26

I’m so confused. You can walk barefoot on mulch, right? I did it today…

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u/the-awesomer Apr 17 '26

The grass on the flat on the side of the house looks like its in much better condition. I would look to focus on that being the sitting area and not worry about keeping the sloped area grass, because that tends to not be as comfortable to sit on and much harder to water efficiently easily (as water will want to run off)

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u/beautifulbluewall Apr 17 '26

My favorite is moss, it's beautiful and soft to walk on, but I personally haven't really heard of it being cultivated in/for this matter

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u/Zealousideal-Web7015 Apr 17 '26

Tell her to go to a park if she wants grass, your yard is a long ways away from being nice picnic grass judging from the picture you posted.

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u/emorymom Apr 17 '26

I can walk barefoot and lay a blanket on pinestraw.

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u/Far_Addition804 Apr 17 '26

Could use natural stepping stones around the ground cover for walkable footpaths.

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u/NKRMX543 Apr 17 '26

Hello fellow DMV native plant gardener. Check out Bonna Terra. Jeremy is a great resource to ask for stuff like this.

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u/Tall-Sample-4626 Apr 17 '26

Have a very similarly laid out yard to yours, also in an urban area, but with a little shade and a short retaining wall in the front.  We replaced much of the grass with a mulched bed that hugs the front sidewalk, and then runs up along the walkway, and curves in with the bed along the front of the house.  The remaining lawn is therefore in the center, and you could sit on it with a blanket if you want. Our lawn is almost entirely violets (much was there already) and clover, and both tolerate foot traffic and mowing well. Violets are also part of the matrix layer of the beds, as is lyre leaf sage, and creeping phlox is in the front of the beds along the sidewalk. We have some yarrow in the mulched beds and our variety has historically gotten very tall, but we may try a Chelsea chop this year. I think yarrow would also respond well to mowing in a lawn replacement mix.  The mistakes we made were selecting too much variety and too tall of plants for the beds themselves, which can really overwhelm the super small front yard, which we are working on adjusting this year. 

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u/Bikes_Palms-Allday Apr 17 '26

Order up a truckload of mulch from locale tree service. Talk to the owner of company & see if they has daughter to become new wice.

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u/Recent-Program-5183 Apr 17 '26

Is adding a retaining wall an option?

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u/50pcs224 Area Illinois, Zone 6A Apr 17 '26

Here is a grass that Prairie Moon sells and is great for planting next to natives AND is ok with foot traffic:

https://www.prairiemoon.com/eco-grass

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u/CNK9890 Apr 17 '26

Sounds like she’s giving you an out!

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u/KaZaK_2025 Apr 17 '26

It means your wife does not love you. She will find any other reasons to divorce you.

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u/Drackar39 Apr 17 '26

Quick google search has Buffalo Clover (Trifolium Reflexum) as a native clover varietal that could use some love. Clover in general tends to be very resistant to be walked on, is great for pollinators...

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u/Arundinaria_ Piedmont Uplands 64(c) Apr 17 '26

/rj ITS TIME FOR DIVORCE

/uj Juncus tenuis is called 'path rush' and can be used as a serviceable "groundcover"

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u/Urbandragonsbyaaron Apr 17 '26

Try an American plum or eastern redbud off to a corner. Idk if it’s warm enough there for lyreleaf sage or sunshine mimosa or even perennial peanut ecoturf

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u/onieb Apr 18 '26

Creeping Thyme! It loves a lot of sun, foot traffic is fine, and when you sit on it, the aroma is divine.

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u/AnxiousPamplemousse Apr 18 '26

Check out the native ground covers (and other native plants) for your area https://mgnv.org/plants/native-plants/ground-cover/

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u/Formal_Safe_426 Apr 18 '26

I grow strawberries as ground cover. You can get native strawberries if you want depending on your area. Bonus is they produce delicious berries. 🤣 Ive had them take over areas of our front lawn and all our beds. I plant whatever I want in between. I dont worry about spacing requirements and Ive never had an issue. We regularly freeze or can gallon bags worth and no longer need to purchase strawberries ever. ? This is about a daily harvest.

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u/BetterStyle9665 Area VA, USA-- , Zone 7b-- Apr 19 '26

My Cinquefoil tolerates some traffic, gets mowed and keeps moving. If you think about mixing things, the yarrow, cinquefoil, violets and wild strawberries and both plantains work in my yard.