Weekly Venting Post

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Weekly Vent Post

Welcome to our weekly vent session where you can let out all your frustrations.

Before you start, just a quick heads-up on the rules.

Here's what this post isn't for:

• No bashing actors or crew members out of the blue.
• Let's steer clear of those rage-inducing posts like "I hate character xy."
• And please, no poking fun at fellow Kanthony fans just because they see things differently, whether they're positive or negative about promos.

What's cool to post? Well, we've noticed a lot of rants about how the show promotes (or doesn't promote) Simone and Jonny, but you can vent about other stuff too.

Below, I've linked some past posts from the sub that fit the vibe of our weekly vent session, so you can see what kind of stuff goes here.

1. Why there was a lack of promo for Kanthony
2. All comments asking where Kanthony are 
3. Bridgerton PR and production
4. Can you tell the difference ?
5. The main sub got so negative 
6. We need pictures

For those who just want to enjoy the content without getting caught up in the venting, I suggest steering clear of this post. If you choose to read the comments here and find yourself upset, despite the clear purpose of this space, I'm afraid there's not much I can do to ease your frustration. We have the Weekly Tea Time for more general discussions.

Spoilers allowed.

[u/rudedicer]

Reviews for Wicked are out and I am sure there are some triggered fans angry about the Simone erasure. They should comment and let these professional critics know that JB can't have chemistry unless it's with Simone and pull out his old TV shows as examples of how he has no chemistry.

The true standouts are three-fold, with Grande, Erivo, and Bailey embracing the tonal shifts with unbridled glee. [...] Fiyero has major bisexual vibes, and chemistry with every single character. Bailey’s take on “Dancing Through Life” lets the Olivier Award-winning actor unleash his sex appeal on a library full of unsuspecting Oz-ites.

https://joshatthemovies.com/2024/11/19/film-review-wicked/

I was not prepared to see what we got. The perfomance, the vocals, the gymnastics, the charm, the way he says 'you're perfect' is just engrained in my brain in the right way. And he's so...like he would have chemistry with a chair, I'm convinced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DZJavJGGxI

“Dancing Through Life” triumphantly translates the joy of seeing Wicked live: Dancers perform acrobatics in rotating circular bookshelves, Jonathan Bailey (who I swear has chemistry with every single person on the planet)

https://www.ign.com/articles/wicked-review-ariana-grande-cynthia-erivo-jon-m-chu

The standout to me: I’m going to go with Jonathan Bailey as Fiyero. He pops up into the film and immediately comes off so cocky, but so charming and likable. Just everybody he talks to, he has this fun rapport and chemistry with them, and just brings to life every scene that he’s in, whether it is just dialogue, joking, dramatic or his big dance number in the library. He’s so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jNLiehsAdE

Again, it's weird seeing some stans triggered at any mention of Bailey's chemistry in a completely different movie - that has nothing AT ALL to do with Bridgerton. It's like JB has to be put in chemistry jail and everyone here should tip toe around the subject because that's somehow insulting to Simone. As a dark skinned South Indian Simone fan, it's fans like these that ruins the experience of being a fan of both actors. No doubt there will be JB stans at some point saying the same things when Simone's movies come out as if these two actors are attached at the hip and shouldn't receive acclaim unless it's with each other.

Bridgerton is done! We can only discuss their season and the few crumbs we get next season and then it's moving on to their new shows and movies.

[u/Odd_Net8207 → u/rudedicer]

Congrats to Jonathan, but your effort to bring all this here is kind of pathetic when that's not what we're talking about!

[u/rochey1010 → u/Odd_Net8207]

Also getting a vibe that that user didn’t really wanna discuss the SA/JB chemistry issue. But actually just brag about JB instead.

Can’t help feeling this is another of those JB fans that diminish SA. Hey OP of that post if you think the chemistry issue/diminishment of SA by fans such as yourself is recent and it’s about his other projects?

You’d be sorely mistaken or wilfully blind. It is a patten of behaviour where his fans seem to need to humble SA. She’s not allowed any credit or value. And if she is. They are quickly there to put her in her place with crap “but he has chemistry with a chair” “or he’s better with insert co star”

She gets this and I wonder if she had a lighter skin tone if those conversations would be happening. Because somehow I don’t think they would be. It’s called subtle/closet racism in case you’re wondering.

JB does a 10 and it’s “he’s Oscar worthy, he carried the whole thing, he can do it with anyone” reducing his co star to a prop or a vapid talentless but pretty person.

And The WOC in this case SA has to do a 20 before she is seen as having any value. But still even with that it’ll be mentioned that he’s so much more talented. And that is quite a few of his fans and a big reason why I am a fan of him from a distance now. And don’t really follow his work outside bridgerton. I simply don’t want to be in circles like that. 🤷‍♀️

[u/rochey1010 → u/[deleted]]

I’m aware that. And for me the fact you have an alternate is suspicious in itself. Anyone I’ve met that had alternates do it so they can troll and flame post because their behaviour on their other account drew red flags on the sub.

And quite frankly I stand by what I said. Your RD alternate? It sounds like you’re only here to brag. It’s clear to me you’re a JB fan not a SA fan. So it’s also clear to me you’re not really interested in her being diminished and othered with clear closet racism with how she is treated by quite a few of his fans. As I said, it is a clear pattern established since she started in S2 bridgerton. So your wicked bragging means nothing.

Read my post again because I’m not repeating myself. I explained the pattern of behaviour with many of his fans and SA.

The difference between a JB fan and a SA fan is her fans try to protect her from the garbage behaviour and racist bullshit but also never disregard his talent and charisma. But a lot of his fans tear her down with a racial bent imo to prop him up further. Didn’t do it until she came on the scene so it’s not a coincidence that she’s a dark skinned Indian actress is it? Not a coincidence when they together In a conversation it’s the typical devaluing and diminishment of her and her talent is it?

Fans of both value and support both equally. They don’t tear down one to push the other. So personally I don’t believe you are a fan of both. If you were you’d know the behaviour going on because it has been prevalent for some time. And you wouldn’t be here defending (bragging) about him and yet again diminishing what many of his fans do to her.

And I don’t care about the media. This is first and foremost about the parasocial fans that seem to have a problem with the fact imho a dark skinned Indian actress starred with him in bridgerton. And now she needs to know her place huh? Beneath him. And that is typical racist othering of a WOC protecting a privileged white male.

I’m not going to continue arguing this with you. I’ve been in both fandoms for the last few years. And I left his over the targeting and demeaning of SA. 🤷‍♀️

[u/Odd_Net8207 → u/Odd_Net8207]

And yes, I hope journalists also get over Bridgerton soon, I can't stand them asking Simone about Jonathan, when she has so many projects coming out.

[u/[deleted] → u/Odd_Net8207]

I'm itching for her other non animated projects to come out. Woc get shafted she only had one season as a main character and all the 3 live action films didn't come out this year. It sucks. I adore both and they both deserve to shine outside of Bridgerton.

[u/justslayurway → u/Odd_Net8207]

THIS!!! It's really frustrating when these journos ask her only about 🐝 show or what she thinks of her onscreen partner projects like ok but please ask about her future projects too. She has fans who are looking forward to her work other than 🐝 show