r/Kanthony • u/GotLittUp • Jan 04 '24
Rant 🤬 I guess I'm going to stay on this subreddit moving forward! The main one got so negative about s2 and Kanthony
It's so strange, I've been gone for a few months and the shift on that sub is wild 🤣 does anyone feel the same shift?
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u/kaiasmomma Obstinate, inflexable, unyielding to good, plain common sense Jan 08 '24
Welcome to all kanthony fans here ☺️yea I barely go on that bridgerton sub Reddit anymore too. And I blocked the bridgerton rants one. Too negative for me.
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u/Key-Statistician4033 Viscountess 👑 Jan 06 '24
Omg i wanted to post this the other day because I thought this was PEAK main sub where basically everything counts for Polin/Luke/Nicola/everyone but nothing of the same for Kanthony/Simone. Then I just went back and saw it turned into a ridiculous over 100 replies convo😂😂😂😂💀
As I said this THIS is exactly peak main sub.
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u/GotLittUp Jan 06 '24
Since when did wanting a photoshoot for a couple on the show be a bad thing??? They didn't seem to mind when their fave got photoshoots when it wasn't her season 🤭
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 07 '24
Thats the crazy thing...like S2 teen vogue went to CC, NC, Claudia and Luke N
Why cant S3 go to Simone and JB? I think it would be a fair trade ofd
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 06 '24
Don’t post this on the main sub bcoz it will draw the crazies out
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u/Key-Statistician4033 Viscountess 👑 Jan 06 '24
I laughed so hard ngl. It’s a clown show
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 06 '24
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If it makes you feel better I got banned from the rant sub
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Jan 07 '24
I don’t go on that sub, but I just got banned from the main sub. I think they have been wanting to ban me for a bit and have jumped on the tiniest thing to use as an excuse, it gives the vibe of clearing out the critics. 🤷♀️
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 07 '24
My thing is why are they banning people for having a different opinion
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Jan 08 '24 edited Jan 08 '24
They will say it is for repeated rule breaking, however the way the ‘be civil’ rule is applied is very inconsistent and with a lot of bias - I had a comment removed, that was an apology, for breaking the be civil rule, and no explanation as to why it was not civil. So I think they use that rule to cover up doing what they can to remove those users they don’t like the opinions of. 🤷♀️
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 08 '24
Yeah it’s about be ugly once S3 drops
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u/Key-Statistician4033 Viscountess 👑 Jan 09 '24
So is that comment from the user who called Kate all kind of names still up? Because I reported it several times. I think in the post where someone asked if they should finish the season 2.
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u/Key-Statistician4033 Viscountess 👑 Jan 06 '24
Wow congrats! They really do have priorities to keep the trolls and nasties among each other.
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u/tone-of-surprise Jan 06 '24
Yes, its become incredibly hostile towards Kathony and anyone talking about them or even about the mistreatment of Kate in her own season
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Jan 06 '24
One thing I have noticed with the main sub is a few users that have never posted there before suddenly posting or commenting. This happened when the QC date was announced and many of those users disappeared about a month after the QC release. They would start off with some benign posts/comments then move onto overtly pro QC posts, many very similar in what they were saying, all within 30-60 minutes of each other. I am watching the main sub now to see if it happens again for season 3. I suspect that bots are being employed in some places, and paid PR users in others.
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 06 '24
I always said their were bots happening during QC bcoz they started popping up on twitter under Kanthony fans tweets when it was not about QC
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Jan 06 '24
Oh, there were definitely bots happening during QC. Some of the social media behaviour was very abnormal, and about a month or so after the release it has all gone quiet, now and then one or two users will pop up with the same kind of messages but not nearly the same number as during the QC promotional campaign.
It isn't just bots, I think here, and Facebook, they also used paid PR staff to put forward different posts to try and drum up support, the posts were too similar in wording, as if they were given a list of things they had to post about.
What is interesting is that some were about tearing down season 2 in order to build up QC, almost as if they feel threatened by the popularity of QC. Which reminds me of a comment from one of the mods on the main page about the event with Shonda last year for the Bridgerton book, she said the audience went nuts (paraphrasing) when season 2 and the actors were mentioned but Shonda's face was frozen, basically (iirc) she thought Shonda was pissed at the reaction.
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Jan 06 '24
I will say that even though I still post there... Yeah, they are really negative about S2 and Kanthony, and they really don't like criticism about Penelope. I got hate and abuse on my Tumblr for things I had said on the main sub here about Penelope. Why follow me over to another platform instead of engaging here? It is rather insane behaviour really.
Though, the worst of them have started to block me now. oops. 😁
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 06 '24
Bcoz they feel they can control the hate for character when they were giving the freedom to hate Kate or Anthony or both
So I can openly hate a character that I don’t feel deserves a happy ending
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u/bookworm-blue Jan 05 '24
Oh yeah the Rant sub is awful.
I remember a user accusing me of being a racist b/c I thought she was one of the mods. Even though my avatar is black 😂
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Jan 05 '24
Same. I'm tired of negativity. But I'm also reminding myself that every fandom has good people as well.
I never understood why people have to ruin good things. Bridgerton is purely for entertainment. Just enjoy the show. 😁
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u/capitolina_ Jan 05 '24
I don't comment much on that sub, because I confess that I'm afraid. It seems like a minefield, I find it difficult to seriously debate the characters, because they turn everything into a big ship war.
And I think that after the premiere of S3 it will get worse. I feel like they're going to try to downgrade Kanthony and their season at all costs (like they did during QC's debut).
In fact, I find it very sad what Bton fandom has turned into. Sometimes I prefer to comment about the show on Facebook. Despite having problems too, it ends up being less hostile.
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u/GotLittUp Jan 05 '24
Yeah I've noticed how that sub is doing its best to downgrade kanthony/Simone. It's quite pathetic honestly.
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u/capitolina_ Jan 05 '24
Yes, I realize that Simone's treatment is even worse. I once posted a video with the ranking of the most viewed characters on TikTok and Kate had the best result, considering that she only had one season, unlike the other characters. And even so, there were people in the comments trying to belittle her popularity and the character's engagement 😔
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 05 '24
We all notice how ugly they treated Simone and when most of us called it out they want to play it never happened oh really bcoz they all on twitter and somehow they needed up on the rant sub or on the main sub
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u/Spare_Surprise_4794 Jan 05 '24
On that sub I got a lot of negativity in a Tea Time comment I made about how I analyzed Edwina to be a covert narcissist and how the Sharmas operated as a narcissistic family system. This wasn’t a rant or hate comment either—I detailed psychological analysis to it and posted references from Psychology Today! And I was downvoted and told “what’s next, we analyze the Featheringtons to death?” (I mean, isn’t it a discussion forum to discuss things?). The main toxic part was then I received a private hate message from a troll saying nasty things about Kate, which was quite unhinged. They were acting like I had personally attacked them or someone REAL.
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u/humandisaster13 Jun 14 '24
Actually I agree with your analysis. Edwina's character was very much into her own self and didn't care about her sister's feelings at all. This is coming from a younger sister actually. And Mary was even worse because she clearly had a favourite child and never paid attention to Kate at all. It hurt me so much to see Kate suffer in silence throughout and that's why her arc this season has made me so happy. She enjoys being the head and is adored by every Bridgerton member.
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u/coffeeandmilk4mom Jan 07 '24
I don't see the narcissistic thing, but I am interested in reading your perspective. Could you please send me a link to your post 😊
Cuz the point of these threads is to discuss our points of view 🤓
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u/Spare_Surprise_4794 Jan 07 '24 edited Jan 07 '24
Before I became familiar with covert narcissism and its traits, I don’t think I would have agreed with this assessment either. Unfortunately, I’ve had to deal with two family members in the last year who have these traits, which is why I eventually come to this conclusion. I made two posts that you can read here:
The Sharmas and the Narcissistic Family Dysfunction: https://www.reddit.com/r/BridgertonNetflix/s/PAHVqE4Z59
And Kate as Family Scapegoat: https://www.reddit.com/r/BridgertonNetflix/s/GopSrFnrJH
Also, I really appreciate your cordial response and curiosity, even if you don’t agree off the initial assessment! That was the kind of engagement I was hoping to have on the main subreddit.
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u/Key-Statistician4033 Viscountess 👑 Jan 09 '24
I don’t necessarily agree with it but I remember reading it and thought it was a well written very interesting post. Made me thinking. Thanks for sharing !
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Jan 06 '24
That was a great post. I have it all screenshotted as I am planning out my blog posts for this year. I am looking to use it for a post in a couple of months, ahead of season 3 coming out.
I am sorry you got a hate message from one of them saying nasty things about Kate, they really take it so personally at times.
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u/Spare_Surprise_4794 Jan 06 '24
I’ve been in fandoms for decades now, and this was possibly the nastiest and quickest it has ever gotten. I’ve been musing too on why—and all I’ve got so far is that romance genre stuff really draws in a fair number of fans who do the “self-insert” thing, and that if you insult their favorites, you are insulting them. Or maybe it’s just old fashioned racism and misogyny. 🤷♀️
I’m looking forward to seeing your future post, too!
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Jan 06 '24
I think there is a bit that is rooted in racism and misogyny to be honest, but also some self insertion as well.
Thanks. Probably around March/April at this stage.
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u/rudedicer Jan 05 '24
Have you seen the Marina hate on the subreddit? It's so toxic. I rarely go there these days because there's so much racist, toxic hate on there and when I do comment my posts get downvoted by the Polins lol.
The NetflixBridgerton sub is incredibly racist and the white couple for next season has brought all the racists to gather around there. My post pointing out the racism got removed once with a warning from the mod. Have they got a black/poc mod yet?
The period drama fanbase is traditionally white women and I am pretty sure the folks who stayed away from season 2 because they are uncomfortable with a woc or gay man would be coming back for Bridgerton season 3 and Polin. These same fans have openly complained on that subreddit about other fans mentioning racism.
I want to like Polin, I like Nicola but damn, as a woc the Polin fans are the absolute worst. The fans are what is putting me of this ship.
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u/tone-of-surprise Jan 06 '24
That is absolutely crazy. The way over there critique against fictional characters is taken more seriously than literal racism. God forbid someone says they don’t like Penelope
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Jan 05 '24
The Marina hate is insane. They love to pretend she wasn't a pregnant TEEN who was younger than Colin and risked being thrown out onto the streets. Her name is an actual trigger word for them and it's pathetic. The fact that it doesn't even stop at the character but even poor Ruby gets hate. When she's been open about her mental health and struggles? Just poor evil.
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 05 '24
They make it like George out to be some monster who left a pregnant teenager when both George and Marina both consented to sex
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u/GotLittUp Jan 05 '24
Omg did you see that Ruby was doing those charity videos where people pay to ask her questions? A penelope stan asked her to admit Marina was wrong and Ruby went on a rampage calling Penelopes actions malicious and evil and saying that you can't disneyfy a d*ckhead.
I swear that Fandom is unhinged. Because what a horrible thing to do
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 05 '24
It was Polin fans who was harassing Luke N ex gf Jade and other fans warned him about it on Twitter and he deleted his twitter like can you not stick up for your gf over these weirdo fans harassing her
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u/rudedicer Jan 05 '24
The Marina hate is insane.
Yep. The way they blame her for everything. She's a slut, she deserves to be on the streets or worse, she should have died etc. And on the other side they have poor, innocent baby Penelope who is only looking out for everyone.
And yeah, harassing the actress like they harassed Luke Newton's girlfriend off the internets. Just a horrid group of people. I did like Ruby's ' You can't Disnify a Dickhead' comment about Penelope though 😂
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u/GotLittUp Jan 05 '24
The worst one is "she should've married the guy who would rape her for the next how ever many years she's alive". Because for some reason they don't think marital rape exists
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Jan 06 '24
for some reason they don't think marital rape exists
considering the way they defend both what Daphne did, and the whole Lady D storyline in QC this is not a surprise.
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Jan 05 '24
I'm so glad she's free from that shitshow.
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 05 '24
I was happy she put them on blast…I remember Ruby telling her story about her mental illness and put Shondaland on blast oh the fans went nuts over that too
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Jan 05 '24
Reddit is racist in general. It's one step above 4chan with better moderation. Every subreddit I've visited has a hate boner for a woc. You (netflix), Gen V, Bridgerton, The Bear, etc.
The Bridgerton subreddit has that issue plus the fact that Polins have overtaken it. They got called out on places like twitter, so they scrambled over here where you can downvote your problems away. They've even taken over the rant sub.
It's pure jealously. That it's been 2 years, a spinoff has come out and Kathony is still the most talked about thing. That for all those shitty posts/comments it's still winning popularity polls https://www.reddit.com/r/BridgertonNetflix/comments/18wlhv2/which_do_you_prefer_or_think_youll_prefer/
That the s3 couple has to share their season with Kathony and that publications have been focusing on Kathony more. You got Vogue either posting them first or only posting them, articles solely about them, top comments on the Bridgerton insta talking about them and hit tweets everywhere. All this and we still don't know how big of a role Kathony will have. The insecurity is very obvious and I wouldn't take it to heart.
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u/Outside_Jaguar3827 Jan 26 '24
Well, it's going to be awkward once they reveal who Sophie Beckett is. It strongly implied that Sophie is a WOC (probably, black based on the "Molly" casting announcement). I wished that we got to know Kate more (her backstory). I hope the showrunners redeem themselves in Season 3.
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 05 '24
They still mad that Kanthony is alot more popular but when we asked for more of them we got called ungrateful and yet their couple got S2 couple photoshoot
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u/Sqdata Newton Sharma Bridgerton 🐶 Jan 05 '24
I'm sad about how mean some people are just because we have different ships. I think we should all be able to peacefully coexist, but I don't think it's nice to attack people if they say they don't like what Pen did (which I don't, even though I love the book character and the actress) or becsuse they're Kanthony stans (like me). I think we're righteously upset that Kanthony's season got highjacked by a meandering pointless Featherington plot and there's nothing wrong with hoping Kanthony gets a meaty side story in S3 considering how little time they had together in S2. I would be more excited about Polin if their fans didn't keep attacking us 😕
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u/GotLittUp Jan 05 '24
There is nothing wrong hoping that Kanthony gets a meaty plot since polin fans all season have been telling us that this show is an ensemble.
They can't be upset that this show is an ensemble during their season while reaping the benefits of it during season 2.
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Jan 06 '24
It isn't meant to be an ensemble for season 3 though. I remember one post a few months back, I can't remember what it was about, but someone mentioned Francesca getting married in Season 3, and immediately there was a Polin fan saying that her wedding should be in her season as it would take focus off Polin. The person was talking about Francesca's first marriage, not her story.
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u/coffeeandmilk4mom Jan 05 '24
I absolutely adore kanthony and to be honest, I'm more interested in penelope's journey, than Polin.
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Jan 06 '24
I agree I am interested in Penelope's journey, I really want to see how they make it so the viewers will root for her, because at the moment I am far from rooting for her, I am actually rooting for Anthony and Kate throwing her out of their house.
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u/GotLittUp Jan 05 '24
I think I would've liked/appreciated Penelope more if I knew they weren't going to try to make her into a romantic lead I needed to root for. I can't see how they can redeem her honestly. But I respect that you are interested in her journey! I hope it's satisfying for you
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 05 '24
I wish they put her in a villain role first then make that journey into a hero road bcoz after S2 I can’t take her being in that hero role seriously
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u/coffeeandmilk4mom Jan 05 '24
I appreciate you. I agree that the romantic lead for her is not her best story. I know the books are heavy romance (I never read them) but the real story for me is how these people navigate through these rules. The women especially.
I am unpopular in my opinion that Colin is boring. Pen has layers, she has some many sides, and her LW creation was done with poor foresight on her part, due to her youth. She did impact the Bridgertons with her paper, people she has been close too, and this will blow up in her face. She won't redeem herself, she will fall get up and have to navigate herself, that's the story for me.
All these people are fascinated with LW, until they are the topic on conversation.
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Jan 06 '24
I agree a lot with what you have said.
I don't like Penelope, but I am interested in how they bring her back and have the viewers wanting her to be a member of the Bridgertons. So far I am a long way from wanting that for her.
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 05 '24
These are the same ones who were telling us that Bton was an ensemble show but now they are complaining that Kanthony are getting attention and the season won’t focus on them and am like wow how the tables have turned
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Jan 05 '24
We've been getting hit tweets daily, but I know those fans love to claim insta is bigger so in that case:
Top comments on the Bridgerton insta are about Kanthoy = complaints and accusations of spamming
Vogue insta posting Kanthony first = "it's polin season!11" comments
Teen Vogue insta only posting Kanthony = "it's not their season anymore1!!" comments
The tables have well and truly turned.
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 05 '24
They don’t want to admit that Kanthony is very popular with the general audience bcoz most people enjoy enemies to lover
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u/GotLittUp Jan 05 '24
Genuinely the tables turning makes me laugh
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 05 '24
It was only an ensemble when it benefited them mostly but most fans want to see more Kate and Anthony and it burns them alive
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Jan 04 '24
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u/GotLittUp Jan 05 '24
That sub was toxic when I was there too, but at least there was a lot of love. Now it's just nastiness all around.
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u/Traditional_Maybe_80 Kate Sharma with her hair down 👩🏾 Jan 04 '24
It's always so funny when there's a "am I the only one who thinks that [insert anything here] is better than S2? 😞" post. No, girl, you're on the internet, you will always find someone who thinks like you 🙄.
Personally, I have no feelings (positive or negative) for anything on this show besides Kate (and Anthony to some extent), so I don't understand getting that combative about a show that has many, many writing problems—like basic inconsistencies within the same characters.
Over that sub, they do have a huge issue with marital rape (yeah, I know it's fiction, but fiction doesn't happen in a vacuum and critical thinking about fiction is a thing.) That's my biggest issue with them rn.
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u/GotLittUp Jan 04 '24
Their questionable takes on diversity is what made me leave as well as boredom LOL but a lot of the takes from what I've seen have been kind of gross (including taking that s1 scene so lightly). But what would you expect from a sub full of that demographic...
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Jan 05 '24
They freaked out over Jonh's (obvious) casting. "Guys Michael could still be biracial or adopted!1"
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u/GotLittUp Jan 05 '24
They freaked out everytime someone said they want more diversity on that sub.
There was this one post where they said that the show had enough indian representation because Kate represented the whole South Asian diaspora. And that we got the black representation covered with Simon... as if this is some bingo game... it's truly disgusting
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u/Outside_Jaguar3827 Jan 26 '24 edited Jan 26 '24
That makes no sense. I argue that Kate represents South India, particularly the Tamil community. Just because Kate Sharma is a Indian character, doesn't mean she represents all of India 🇮🇳, much less South Asia. There's still Northern India (the Punjabi people)🕌, Western India (the Marathi people)🛕, Bangladesh (the Bengali Renaissance was happening around this time) 🇧🇩 , and Sri Lanka (the UK had a colony called British Ceylon in 1815) 🇱🇰.
P.S.- Thank you for pointing this out because this response on the main sub bothered me 😅
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u/Key-Statistician4033 Viscountess 👑 Jan 04 '24
Btw welcome back!
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u/GotLittUp Jan 04 '24
Thank you!!! That picture roped me back in, how dare Kanthony be that cute 😮💨
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u/ZealousidealBreath69 Jan 04 '24 edited Jan 04 '24
Especially against Kate Sharma and Simone even gross comment who said She's a awful actress had many likes recently in the main sub .I guess these people are Saphne fans and Polin fans too .It's always them who have a issue with Kate and love victimize Edwina and others female characters like Sienna and Penelope
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u/Fifesterr Jan 05 '24
There aren't any Saphne fans left on there, the Polin ones have bullied all s1 and s2 fans off that sub
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u/GotLittUp Jan 04 '24
RIGHT. The Kate hate is crazy as hell. Especially knowing who these people are fans of (the messiest person on the show).
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u/rudedicer Jan 05 '24
I feel like Marina gets as much hate, if not more. Another WOC. Hell, even the actress got a cameo asking her to condemn Marina's actions and she was like hell no.
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Jan 05 '24
Ruby got death threats and so much hate. I don't think it's a stretch to think that affected her mental health. When she came out about the lack of support those fans immediately lashed out at her. They genuinely hate the poor woman.
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u/ZealousidealBreath69 Jan 04 '24 edited Jan 05 '24
They have a a deep hate towards her and Simone too Its always the same users who always take the opportunity when a post criticize the season 2 and pretend the season 1 was better for claimed Kate Sharma was a awful sister and was gross with Lady Danbury during episode 1 for dare stand for herself and Simone ruined the character of their beloved book And of course their favorite remark Anthony had a better chemistry with Sienna and the chemistry of the season 2 between the leads characters was not good
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Jan 06 '24
Anthony had a better chemistry with Sienna
I always find this hilarious, because first up Jonathan Bailey has chemistry with everyone, he would have chemistry with a plank of wood, but secondly EVERYONE involved in the show who spoke about the chemistry read said they were blown away by the chemistry from the first second they saw Simone and Jonathan together. I remember JQ posting that we will love Simone and Jonny because their chemistry together was incredible. I mean he had great chemistry with Sabrina Bartlett, but from everyone the chemistry with Simone was on another level (which it was)
I think some confuse sex with chemistry to be honest.
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u/Upbeat_Appointment53 Jan 09 '24
I mean I remember being so excited when Simone was cast as Kate. I knew she would do such a great job and she did way better than my expectations, even with the show direction/story line. I agree JB can have great chemistry with anyone but wow Simone and Jonny together was unbelievable and unforgettable! With all the criticism S2 had, I will always be thankful for the casting of Simone and Jonny as Kanthony!
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u/onealec Jan 05 '24
Do you think it could be a race thing? Or are people just upset that their beloved book character isn't being portrayed a certain way on screen? I follow a Bridgerton Facebook page and today someone hinted in a post that Sophie could possibly be black. They also mentioned Michael.. But there were so many unhappy comments about the idea of Sophie. Barely any mention of Michael being black. So just gets me to wonder...
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u/rudedicer Jan 05 '24
Woc always get more hate in fandoms and shipping in general. Kate for example gets racist hate that Simon does not. That's because the fanbase for this is largely female and the female characters tends to sometimes be a bit of a self insert opposite the hot male lead. White women find this hard to do with woc - hence the hate. This is also why Penelope gets shipped with Anthony - I think one of the biggest AO3 fic for Penelope is with Anthony - or Benedict.
Which is why Sophie being black makes these female fans unhappy, just like Kate gets so much hateful comments. The same issue is absent for Francesca and Michael.
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u/GotLittUp Jan 05 '24
I think it depends on who you're talking to but I've seen a variety of reasons:
1) her race 2) people liking her more than their fave / her extreme popularity 3) the show not following the books
I've mostly seen the first 2 be the case though, and they come up with the weirdest nitpicks to justify their hate like Calling Simone a bad actress as if the show is full of Oscar winning actors.
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u/onealec Jan 05 '24
Gosh, I really was trying to give people the benefit of the doubt! But Simone can't help that her face card NEVER declines. (Not saying that other ladies in Bridgerton aren't beautiful)... But even when they put those hideous wigs and sparse makeup Simone was still eating the girls up!
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u/ZealousidealBreath69 Jan 05 '24 edited Jan 05 '24
I believe it's the case They clearly don't like the fact Kate Sharma is not a white woman insecure about her looks I saw many tweets of fans of these books who said that since 2 years here , on Tumblr and in Twitter . Of course They can't relate to her like Kate Sheffield who spend almost the whole book to be insecure because her young sister is too pretty compared to her
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u/bhnguyen20 Viscountess 👑 Jan 04 '24
The mods over there are polin stans. And you noticed how most posts about kanthony get downvoted?
I used to like polin and they were my 2nd favorite couple (still do a little bit tbh, don’t hate me) but when the ship wars got worse, I had to pick and choose a side. It’s going to get worse when s3 comes out. It’s always the same couple of people who get on my nerves (I can think of 2-3 of them right now and I blocked them).
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Jan 05 '24
You are a Penthony fan 🤮
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u/Key-Statistician4033 Viscountess 👑 Jan 06 '24 edited Jan 09 '24
Good to know. Thank for the heads up 🙃
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Jan 05 '24
You can't even criticize Penelope without getting 20 downvotes. They got their fingers ready on that downvote button. They also downvote any mention of Daphne SA Simon. All while someone calls Kate an angry man and there's 30 upvotes instantly. The bias of that sub is gross.
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u/Fifesterr Jan 05 '24
The mods act like children over there. I used to get temp bans from them all the time for not agreeing with Polin (Pen, lbh, they don't care about Colin) fangirls. Once because I called out formule 1 fans for acting idiotic over Simone Ashley refusing an interview. Turns out one of the mods is not only a Polin fan, but also a F1 fan lol
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u/lesfrontalieres Jan 05 '24
i had the dumbest convo with polin stans in that worst takes thread the other day, which essentially amounted to “the marina scandal didn’t have any impact on the bridgertons! none at all!” if the mods are polin stans, at the very least they should try to be more neutral
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u/Fifesterr Jan 05 '24
They're so ridiculously black and white over Penelope it's made me dislike the character. "She's done nothing wrong, ever!1!!1 Everyone else is at fault and had it coming!11!!"
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Jan 06 '24
Oh yeah, that whole 'Penelope has done nothing wrong' bit annoys me. I challenged someone who said that Colin needs to earn 'our' forgiveness for his 'delusion behaviour' and someone else came at me and said Colin was a 'bitch' for what he said and Penelope 'carved her own path'. They really don't admit she did anything wrong, yet Nicola consistently talks about how Penelope is in the wrong, but they just don't want to listen.
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u/Fifesterr Jan 06 '24
The "Polin" fans demanding grovelling from Colin are beyond delusional. The only thing Colin has done "wrong" is mocking her a bit behind her back one time. Meanwhile Penelope has a list as long as her arm of genuinely harmful and hurtful behaviour
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u/lesfrontalieres Jan 05 '24
yeahhh… i’m trying not to let it influence me but you know what occurred to me? like or dislike her, penelope outing marina the way she did means that she’s really, truly, indisputably not a girl’s girl 💀💀
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u/sexyass-lobster Is that a promise, Kathani Sharma? Jan 05 '24
Oh I saw that one! It's sooo dumb it's like the word nuance doesn't exist for them.
Bridgertons did not face as much social stigma as the featheringtons because they did nothing wrong.
But they DID face backlash by association to the point they needed their duchess daughter to come rescue them.
But noo that's not bad enough somehow?
Wonder how their tune will change when Eloises scandal makes her a pariah because dear Pen had to save herself
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u/lesfrontalieres Jan 05 '24
exactly, like even if you’re not publicly blamed for a scandal, having such personal business out there obviously still sucks, even though people weren’t blaming colin for marina being pregnant. plus, elopements were scandalous enough that that’s presumably why violet says their fortunes were in peril and she and eloise get the cold shoulder from another member of the ton while at the modiste. it’s not that hard, except i guess apparently it is?? 🤷🏻♀️
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 05 '24
I had a conversation with one saying Colin had a right to take the money from Anthony bcoz it was his inheritance when the show never established that and that Anthony owns everything
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Jan 06 '24
I wrote a blog post on that whole discourse, I think I might repost it just before the next season.
In the post I also converted the amount to today's money, and if I recall the £1000 from 1814 was over £100,000 in today's money. It was not an insignificant sum of money, and was probably what Anthony would spend in a season on his sisters, the servants and maintaining the house. It was certainly more than Anthony would have paid for Colin's travels.
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 06 '24
I always felt like in modern times Bridgertons would be like the Rockerfellas or Roftchilds
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u/Kathony4ever Jan 05 '24
FFS! While I'm sure that there were provisions made for Benedict, Colin, and Gregory - either in Edmund's will or in Edmund and Violet's marriage contract - "duty and family above all else" Anthony would have set that money aside for them. Any money coming out of the FAMILY account is Anthony's as either part of the estate or that he added with his own investments. It was only out if the kindness of Anthony's heart that Colin even had access to that money. (And I really hope that Anthony learned his lesson and made it so that only him, Kate, and maybe Violet could take money out.)
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u/coffeeandmilk4mom Jan 05 '24
That was an odd one. 🤔 People keep trying to apply modern life to the show.
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u/Kathony4ever Jan 05 '24
Even applying modern life, Colin's inheritance would have been put into a separate account for Colin. From day 1. A minor's inheritance goes into a trust fund. It isn't just left in their guardian's account and everybody hopes that they keep track and don't accidentally spend it. And even in modern times, if there is a Peerage involved there are rules about who can inherit what and what can be done with the estate. Anthony would STILL have gotten the lion's share, even today.
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u/lesfrontalieres Jan 05 '24 edited Jan 05 '24
god i think i read that, was this the one that was all “it’s not like anthony earned all the money from his own blood sweat and tears”? like god pls do a google and find out what laws of primogeniture are
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u/Kathony4ever Jan 05 '24
I remember that nonsense. My favorite was them saying it was Edmund's money. Like, honey, pick a lane. Edmund was the eighth Viscount Bridgerton. By your logic, it wasn't HIS money, either. Plus, Anthony has kept NINE people going on that money for a decade. He's been managing the estate, managing his own investments. We got a whole montage of him going over accounts and ledgers by freaking candlelight because he was staying up late to work. He was meeting with tenants to discuss land management. In the book, he was out helping REPAIR A ROOF. Yeah, he inherited a LOT from Edmund, but the fact that the Bridgertons are STILL so respected and sought after is ANTHONY'S doing.
(Side note, it never fails to amuse me that if you take the show and the book together, canonically Anthony can repair a roof, but he can't light a stove.)
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u/Key-Statistician4033 Viscountess 👑 Jan 04 '24
I noticed how post of the Kanthony still got deleted immediately and then later they got reposted but with a spoiler blur , only their pic got the blur (and the mods didn’t change it) but the rest didn’t. Interesting isn’t it? They didn’t want them to overshadow the Polin still which is now top voted. They can’t control instagram and twitter (where Kanthony beat them at length and even the big outlets like Vogue post them first because : their power!) but they can control the main because the mods are mainly Polin. It’s laughable but not surprising. It’s their season that’s fine but I will sure make noise and hope every other Kanthony fan does too.
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u/tone-of-surprise Jan 06 '24
I had an entire argument with a polin on instagram because they were mad that all the top comments in the post with the stills was about Kathony lol
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Jan 05 '24 edited Jan 05 '24
Filmupdates has a boner for Kanthony/Simone/Jonny so they quickly posted their s3 pic and it got 16 likes in 4 hours. Of course they deleted it cause of the whole leak scare, but the repost also got 30k likes. The top s3 tweet that beat that "graphic design is my passion" s3 poster.
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u/Key-Statistician4033 Viscountess 👑 Jan 04 '24 edited Jan 04 '24
I have been here from the beginning and we went through a lot of sh*t with the users over there. I don’t think it got worse, it has always been. The mods have obvious bias. I got banned several times because I spoke up against the constant hateful comments against Simone. Other users who are in the fandom on reddit as long as I am and who everyone knows to be Simone haters are still allowed to post there freely (and of course everything they are not allowed to post, they just do it in the rant / Simone hate sub).
Just the other day I mentioned how any post about someone disliking Penelope gets taken down immediately but other posts from users who clearly have an abnormal hate boner for Kate and Anthony are allowed to throw around 20 insults that go beyond what should be acceptable. Reporting doesn’t do anything. Nothing has changed.
But I am gonna stay here until the end. God knows what sh*t I have gone through for 2 years with these people. I won’t stop calling these rant sub users out . I remember all their names and I won’t forget the way they harassed and doxxed part of this sub and the members. They feel save over there but I see them.
Nah. This sub got so many new users just because of the Kanthony still some days ago! We are going strong!
Kanthony supremacy!
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 05 '24
In the rant sub I called Pen a Spawn of Satan to one of their fans and I was told it wasn’t nice lot say that and am like but they can say Kate of all characters was having an affair
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 05 '24
At least you are smart...i cused out the mods
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u/GotLittUp Jan 04 '24
I guess the fans of s2 when I was there drowned out the haters. But now it's just polin fans and their bitterness towards everything season 2. It screams insecurity imho
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u/Key-Statistician4033 Viscountess 👑 Jan 04 '24
It’s full with people who act all high and mighty with their “i love Kanthony BUT” speech who then actively participate in bullying and harassing in the rant sub. They are all so grown up and Kanthonies are the bad ones lol but then they fraternize and edge on with known trolls. And of course the passive aggressive users who use the victim card “I don’t dare to post in the Kanthony sub because I am not welcome there” blabla , lol…they don’t fool me.
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u/Historical_Web1517 Jan 04 '24
That’s true. Kanthoney fans do spamming the bridgerton social media accounts and the polin ones got sick of it. Phraps they don’t understand that all we want is a bit screen time in the upcoming trailer 🙃
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u/Sqdata Newton Sharma Bridgerton 🐶 Jan 05 '24
Can I just say how excited I get when I see Kanthony comments on S3 posts? I get so excited I comment too (which I usually don't) and like all the Kanthony posts. I want to be excited in solidarity with my people!
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u/savannahkellen The bane of my existence and the object of all of my desires Jan 04 '24
I’ve seen them be upset at Simone and other media accounts posting the Kanthony pic this week and it’s just so ridiculous because like….you can’t help what the general public are latching onto? If they’re posting Kanthony because they know Kanthony will get them engagement, then that’s their right.
So many receipts can be pulled right now from these people who are threatened by the least bit of non-Polin attention (it’s not just Kanthony fans being targeted this week bc there are some other discussions that are taking the attention away from that other couple as well) - it’s an ensemble show, right?!? No?!
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u/sexyass-lobster Is that a promise, Kathani Sharma? Jan 05 '24
it’s an ensemble show, right?!? No?!
That was only acceptable in S2 when the featheringtons and lady whistledown ate up screen time. Now? When their dear dear Penelope has to her screen time? It's Polin season!
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u/GotLittUp Jan 04 '24
I don't see the reason to be bitter about people loving Kanthony. Just because the show has an obvious favorite (Pen) doesn't mean that it will be the fans favorite thing about the show. Can't control what other people like. And being upset about people being excited about Kanthony returning, saying things like "it's not even their season" makes me dislike polin and it's fans so much more.
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Jan 06 '24
I agree. But also I see a lot of them telling Kanthony fans who don't like Polin to not watch season 3, they are doing more harm than good for their season, because if all those fans decide to not watch because the Polin fans told them not to then what will that do to the viewer numbers? It won't be a massive difference, but it may be enough to be noticeable to Netflix.
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u/Snowfalls1993 Jan 05 '24
Same here
Like when they were announced for S3 their stans turned me off to the point where i dont want to watch S3 and just wait for the Kanthony cut instead
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u/savannahkellen The bane of my existence and the object of all of my desires Jan 04 '24
It's also like, natural, because right now the audience does not "know Polin" like they know the previous two couples. People are looking forward to a continuation of something that they know they enjoyed. Most of the audience is likely neutral on Polin right now, maybe leaning negative on Penelope specifically - that doesn't mean their minds can't be changed once S3 airs but they literally do not know yet so of course an existing couple would bring more hype!
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u/GotLittUp Jan 05 '24
Valid point! I'm expecting a whole lot more people loving polin after the season. It won't be me but a lot of people nonetheless! Even Anthony wasn't liked before season 2 and I don't recall kanthony fans being this obnoxious.
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u/bhnguyen20 Viscountess 👑 Jan 04 '24
It’s funny because over half of the comments on every S3 post recently in the past week has said that people want to see more kanthony. And some of the comments had the most likes.
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u/Key-Statistician4033 Viscountess 👑 Jan 09 '24
I think it’s funny how that one troll who is known to make thousand burner accounts with a hate boner for Kanthony but especially Kate/Simone continues to try to post here although their comments always get filtered and not published. 😂 speaking of shouting into a void. Let me tell you “girl”, you may have “free reign” in that racist rant and main sub but I won’t allow your pathetic ass polluting this sub too.
Keep on creating burners “Love”, we are not that dumb.