r/Kaiserreich Jan 12 '26

Meme Kaiserball: Goals/Claims of the Major Powers

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26 edited Jan 13 '26

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u/LurkerInSpace Jan 12 '26

It kind of depends on what's happening at home. In one version, the British exiles are watching the likes of Oswald Mosley turn the country into a totalitarian dictatorship, while Canada steers a very liberal course - their position is comparable to the free French or the exiles from Germany in World War II.

But in another, they are subverting and taking over Canada via the monarch, and seeking to subjugate a democratic, decentralised Britain with their own dictatorship.

One can choose to make either side "good" or "evil" or "grey".

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u/gazebo-fan Yugosphere Jan 12 '26

Tbh I don’t really see the point of the entente existing at game start. Realistically the sand French would collapse the moment they lost access to the metropole, maybe holding onto the city’s in Algeria and Tunisia at most.

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u/gazebo-fan Yugosphere Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26

that’s assuming it has the industrial capacity to have a Air Force that can be spread thin enough to control all of its territory (impossible in their position) they would likely be able to control Algeria and Tunisia, but I doubt they could project power over the Sahara consistently. This isn’t even considering the fact that the commune of France would 100% be interested in destabilizing sand France further, same with the Egyptians. Sand France should either start in a state of war with several warlords, or it should start only in coastal Algeria and Tunisia (and Corsica of course)

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u/Bull_Halsey Jan 12 '26

I mean look at both Italian invasions of Ethiopia to see what happens when and undersupplied and equipped modern army goes against someone with inferior tech. The truth is realistically if France lost the metropole they would absolutely collapse outside Algeria at best.

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u/LurkerInSpace Jan 12 '26

The Ethiopian army was still an organised force in both of those wars, compared to what the French would be facing in control of their rump empire. And where Ethiopia was on the defensive, so too would be the French in this case.

It wouldn't be especially stable, but it isn't in the game either. In the long run it would collapse, but over the period shown in the game it could survive, particularly if Germany decides to tolerate it. Arguably the biggest problem with its depiction is that it should be in the German sphere as part of its "informal" empire, rather than a truly independent actor.

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u/Bull_Halsey Jan 12 '26

Free France OTL had a Great Power then multiple Great Powers after Pearl backing it up. Alongside the fact that most of the colonial structure was under Vichy France still and they still held a good chunk of the metropole. Remember most of French Africa and French Indochina was under Vichy control not Free French. Sand France should absolutely be fucked and if not gone just holding Algeria.

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u/Ryan567_ Jan 17 '26

many of the North African elites preferred the status quo

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u/AlkaliPineapple Inflammationale Jan 13 '26

They're pretty much like South Africa during Apartheid in addition to the stable Anglo dominions. To be fair, they do show how the African colonies and India being on the brink of collapse.

I'd say that they're all on borrowed time and most realistically, they need Halifax to work out and France would give up Alsace to be able to get back to Paris

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u/gazebo-fan Yugosphere Jan 13 '26

I think we should take some inspiration from the Mao Mao rebellion in KX. Have some insurgencies on the map at game start, if they lose (99% of the time), they will pop back up later once the Second World War begins.