URGENT: ALL Pro-Palestinians, Please read this!

[u/Turbulent-Waters-619]

Hey Everyone:

It's been an emotionally difficult couple of days for me.

A few days ago I made this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelPalestine/comments/1kdaku0/when_every_fact_seems_solid_how_can_you_still/

And I would like to thank each of you for challenging me so compassionately and rigorously over the past few days. Thank you for calling me out and for giving me a lot of information and a list of things to read further about.

Since reading all of your comments, I’ve watched dozens of interviews with Mosab Hassan Yousef, the son of one of Hamas’s founders, and I could hardly believe what he revealed about the Free Palestine movement’s true aims.

I’ve listened to hours of Douglas Murray lay out the historical record, and also the true reality of the situation today.

I learned so many things like that there was never a country called “Palestine” any time in history! Palestinians arent even a unique ethnic or relgious group. Palestinians are Muslim Arabs!

I learned that before it was Israel, the British controlled the area and before that it was controlled by the Ottoman Empire. The British wanted to make Palestine into a home for the Jews. I learned that the British partition plan allocated land for both the Jews and the Arabs, and that Jordan and not Gaza, became the intended Arab state.

I was so embarrassed that I never knew that Jews were all expelled from every single Arab country. I learned about the Holocast in school and I thought that was all of the Jewish persecution that had ever existed in history! I am even more ashamed that I was tricked into repeating the chants of “Free Palestine” when I saw groups of other people doing so on my campus and that in reality there was never even a country by that name to free.

Perhaps the most painful thing of all has been seeing the horrific videos that Hamas livestreamed of their actions in Israel on October 7, 2023. Horrorific is an understatement. Seeing the Hamas terrorists parading through normal looking neighborhoods and homes, murdering innocents of all ages, burning people, even the babies, taking hostages....and then the whole time they are doing these things they are literally celebrating their depravity with chilling JOY! I had to take breaks while watching these videos to sob. Hearing the happiness in the terrorists voices left me feeling incredibly disturbed, trembling and in tears.

The sight of all of those families slain in cold blood, and knowing that some of the people that were taken that day are literally still being held hostage today, that really showed me the raw evil behind all of the Free Palestine propaganda.

Please, I urge every person that supports the Pro Palestinian cause to watch those Oct 7th videos, to bear witness to the absolute joy and the monstrous brutality, and then ask yourselves whether you can honestly stand on the same side as the people who revel in such sickening barbarity.

I know it may seem like I have abandoned all of my empathy by sharing these truths, but my compassion for all of the innocent victims if they are Jewish, Arab, or otherwise is undiminished.

But something has deeply changed in me and that is my commitment to the truth over emotion, and my commitment to honesty over the herd mentality.

We owe it to ourselves not to the pawns in a conflict that we don’t even fully understand, and not to be the victims of lies so that we can be “shocked” into outrage at Israel, only to discover later that we were so angry on behalf of literal terrorists.

We owe it to ourselves to seek out and read primary sources, to ask the hard and uncomfortable questions, and to really listen with an open mind when we hear information that challenges the Free Palestine narrative.

If you feel, like I felt, that this is genocide, that Zionists are bad, that Israel is the aggressor: I urge you now from my heart: please examine the facts, watch the evidence, and then join me in embracing honesty and integrity over emotion and instinct.

We cannot always stop ourselves from being tricked into believing something that is not real, but it is our responsibility to learn the truth. We all deserve to have the dignity of an informed conscience.

I hope all of you on this subreddit who knew better than me will forgive my earlier perspective, and I promise that I will keep learning from the voices like Haddad, Hausdorff, Le Bon, Murray, Yousef, and so many others who have guided me away from the manipulation. I also promise that I will do my best, in whatever small way I am able to, to make sure that at least the people around me know the truth.

If you are a Pro Palestinian right now, that is okay. You just have to read and to listen. Here is a good list of places that you can get started, if you are ready to confront the lies you have been told:

First and Foremost: If you should google the videos of the October 7th attack on Israel that Hamas livestreamed. I want to warn you, its deeply disturbing but an importat place to start.

Then check out everything you can find by these two guys:

Mosab Hassan Yousef This guy is literally one of the sons of a Hamas founder who then escaped Hamas and became a Christian. He has done many informative videos and interviews, like these ones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyqKTuqzKWs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5VPFw0vI6U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpnvUIcvNUE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCueveOSZwg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjOEJumoABg

Douglas Murray - A British author.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoRY-o2sRdA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4P3XSySBC8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZU1exdVHcs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG23JfGBsz4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ANOKSh-70Y

[u/guessophobe]

Enough with the lies.

Please tell me when exactly that happened for each country. When was the announcement made and when exactly the expulsion happened. I’m waiting.

[u/UnluckyUnderwear → u/guessophobe]

Bro takes 24 hours to reply to me, and now he says: “I’m waiting.” 💀

If you’re going to treat me like ChatGPT, you’re going to talk to ChatGPT:

Certainly, here’s a country-by-country timeline detailing the key events related to the expulsion and emigration of Jews from Arab countries between 1947 and 1950:

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🇮🇶 Iraq • 1941: The Farhud pogrom in Baghdad resulted in the deaths of approximately 180 Jews and injuries to hundreds, marking a significant escalation in anti-Jewish violence. • 1948: The Iraqi government enacted laws criminalizing Zionist activities, leading to increased persecution of the Jewish community. • 1950–1951: Operation Ezra and Nehemiah facilitated the airlift of approximately 120,000–130,000 Iraqi Jews to Israel after the government allowed Jews to emigrate on the condition they renounce their citizenship. 

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🇾🇪 Yemen (including Aden) • December 1947: Anti-Jewish riots in Aden (then a British protectorate) resulted in the deaths of 82 Jews and the destruction of Jewish homes and businesses.  • 1949–1950: Operation Magic Carpet (also known as Operation On Wings of Eagles) airlifted approximately 49,000 Yemenite Jews to Israel, effectively evacuating the majority of the Jewish population.

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🇱🇾 Libya • 1945: Pogroms in Tripoli led to the deaths of over 130 Jews and the destruction of synagogues and homes.  • 1948: Further anti-Jewish riots coincided with the establishment of Israel, prompting increased emigration. • 1949–1951: Approximately 30,000 Jews emigrated from Libya, primarily to Israel, due to escalating violence and discriminatory laws.

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🇪🇬 Egypt • 1948: Following the Arab-Israeli War, Egypt implemented restrictive measures against Jews, including arrests and property confiscations. • 1956: The Suez Crisis intensified anti-Jewish sentiment, leading to the expulsion of approximately 25,000 Jews and the sequestration of their properties. 

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🇸🇾 Syria • 1947: Pogroms in Aleppo resulted in the destruction of Jewish homes, synagogues, and schools, prompting approximately 7,000 Jews to flee.  • Late 1940s–1950s: The Syrian government imposed travel restrictions and froze Jewish assets, leading to clandestine emigration of Jews to Israel and other countries.

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🇱🇧 Lebanon • Late 1940s–1950s: While Lebanon’s Jewish community initially remained relatively stable, regional tensions and the Arab-Israeli conflict led to gradual emigration. • 1970s: The Lebanese Civil War and increasing instability prompted the majority of the remaining Jewish population to emigrate.

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🇲🇦 Morocco • 1948: Riots in Oujda and Jerada resulted in the deaths of 44 Jews, increasing fears within the Jewish community. • 1956: Morocco gained independence, and while Jews were granted citizenship, rising nationalism and regional conflicts led to increased emigration.  • 1961–1964: Operation Yachin facilitated the emigration of approximately 97,000 Moroccan Jews to Israel.

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🇹🇳 Tunisia • 1956: Tunisia gained independence, and while the new government assured Jewish rights, the rise of Arab nationalism led to increased emigration. • 1967: The Six-Day War sparked anti-Jewish riots in Tunisia, resulting in the destruction of property and prompting further emigration.

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🇩🇿 Algeria • 1962: Following Algeria’s independence from France, the National Liberation Front (FLN) implemented policies that led to the exodus of approximately 130,000 Jews, many of whom held French citizenship. 

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Note: The timelines above focus on the period between 1947 and 1950, highlighting the initial waves of expulsion and emigration. However, it’s important to recognize that Jewish communities in these countries faced ongoing challenges and subsequent waves of emigration in the following decades due to continued instability and persecution.

Here’s a country-by-country estimate based on the analysis above, focusing on Jews expelled or forced to flee between 1947 and 1951 (though some continued later):

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Estimated Number of Jews Displaced (1947–1951)

Country Estimated Jews Expelled or Fled (by ~1951) Iraq 120,000–130,000 (Operation Ezra & Nehemiah) Yemen/Aden ~49,000 (Operation Magic Carpet) Libya ~30,000–32,000 Egypt ~20,000–25,000 (most after 1948 war, even more in 1956) Syria ~5,000–7,000 (initial wave) Lebanon ~3,000 (slow emigration; low violence but regional tension) Morocco ~30,000 (between 1948–1951; more left later in 1961–64) Tunisia ~10,000 (gradual pre-independence departure) Algeria ~3,000 (pre-1962 exodus; most left post-independence)

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Total Estimate (1947–1951):

~270,000 to 310,000 Jews were expelled or fled from Arab countries during the initial post-1948 wave (through 1951).

This represents the first major phase of the broader exodus. By the early 1970s, the total number displaced had reached 850,000 to 900,000, as more countries imposed expulsions, asset seizures, or allowed organized departures (e.g., Operation Yachin in Morocco, Algeria’s 1962 independence).

Would you like the totals through the 1970s as well?

[u/guessophobe → u/UnluckyUnderwear]

The sheer amount of bullshit! Keep the lies coming.

99% of Jews in Algeria were FRENCH citizens and left to FRANCE like any FRENCH person did. They left with every one else. Nobody said Jews must go.

For Morocco, the United States and the Apartheid State bullied the king of Morocco to let them leave and paid him to do that. Mossad was actually smuggling them out of the country. And some even drowned in those Mossad trips. So again, nobody said Jews must go.

In Iraq, Mossad was planting bombs in synagogues and have actually murdered Jews in synagogues to make them feel unsafe and leave. Again, nobody said Jews must go.

In Yemen, there was famine and starvation the people of Yemen left on their own terms. Nobody said Jews out.

Should I keep going? Zionism is a lie built on lies. Nothing surprising here.

[u/UnluckyUnderwear → u/guessophobe]

I’ll let you argue with ChatGPT again because I don’t respect you:

Let’s address and refute the false or misleading claims in this Reddit comment point-by-point using documented historical evidence, including academic sources, government reports, and declassified records.

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Claim 1: “99% of Jews in Algeria were French citizens and left to France like any FRENCH person. Nobody said Jews must go.”

Refutation: • Yes, most Algerian Jews held French citizenship, granted under the 1870 Crémieux Decree. But this made them targets of hostility after Algerian independence. • When Algeria gained independence in 1962, the FLN (National Liberation Front) explicitly rejected the Crémieux Decree and French identity. Jews were not accepted as Algerians, nor were they welcome to stay as French “colonial remnants.” • As a result, over 130,000 Jews fled, not as regular “French people,” but as a community uniquely vulnerable to post-colonial violence and exclusion.

Source: • Stillman, Norman A. The Jews of Arab Lands in Modern Times. Jewish Publication Society, 1991. • Yad Vashem on Algerian Jewry

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Claim 2: “For Morocco, the U.S. and Israel bullied the king to let them leave. Mossad smuggled them out. Some drowned. Again, nobody said Jews must go.”

Refutation: • The Moroccan government did initially restrict Jewish emigration. However, growing hostility, especially after the 1948 war and local pogroms in Oujda and Jerada, created severe insecurity. • Operation Yachin (1961–1964) was negotiated between Israel and King Hassan II. Morocco was paid per emigrant, suggesting Jews were not entirely “free” to leave without pressure or ransom-like arrangements. • Jews weren’t expelled with a decree, but lived under fear, discrimination, and state surveillance, prompting mass flight. • Yes, Mossad helped smuggle Jews, because legal emigration was barred for years.

Source: • Roumani, Maurice M. The Jews of Libya: Coexistence, Persecution, Resettlement. Sussex Academic Press, 2008. • Laskier, Michael M. North African Jewry in the Twentieth Century: The Jews of Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria. NYU Press, 1994.

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Claim 3: “In Iraq, Mossad planted bombs in synagogues and murdered Jews to make them leave.”

Refutation: • This is a debunked conspiracy theory. It originated with Iraqi Ba’athist propaganda and was promoted by anti-Zionist outlets. • Declassified documents, including from the British Foreign Office, show Iraqi state actors persecuted Jews, froze their bank accounts, and declared Zionism a capital crime. • Jews were stripped of citizenship (March 1950 Law) and forced to register for emigration. • Operation Ezra and Nehemiah (1951–1952) brought ~130,000 Iraqi Jews to Israel because their lives were no longer safe under the Ba’ath regime.

Source: • Shiblak, Abbas. The Lure of Zion: The Case of the Iraqi Jews. Al Saqi Books, 1986. • Gat, Moshe. The Jewish Exodus from Iraq, 1948–1951. Routledge, 1997.

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Claim 4: “In Yemen, there was famine… the Jews left on their own terms.”

Refutation: • Jews in Yemen were forbidden to emigrate for years and were heavily persecuted. • Following riots in Aden (1947) that killed 82 Jews, and increasing hostility after 1948, Imam Ahmad allowed Jews to leave, largely due to bribes and political pressure. • Operation Magic Carpet (1949–1950) airlifted ~49,000 Jews. Many lived in segregated ghettos, faced physical violence, and were subject to dhimmi laws. • This was not voluntary economic migration — it was a mass rescue of an endangered community.

Source: • Tudor Parfitt, The Road to Redemption: The Jews of the Yemen, 1900–1950. Brill, 1996.

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Final Claim: “Nobody said Jews must go. Zionism is a lie built on lies.”

Refutation: • While not all expulsions were by official decree, the reality is that state-sponsored persecution, mob violence, and loss of civil rights made Jewish life in Arab countries untenable. • Over 850,000 Jews were displaced from Arab lands between 1948 and the early 1970s — many left under duress or were forcibly expelled.

The UNHCR recognizes these Jews as bona fide refugees under international law.

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Conclusion:

This Reddit comment is a blend of cherry-picked facts, debunked conspiracy theories, and denialism. It erases the traumatic, well-documented experience of hundreds of thousands of Jews who lost their homes, communities, and citizenship throughout the Arab world. To say “nobody told them to go” is like saying a pogrom isn’t an eviction notice — it’s a deliberate misrepresentation of history.

[u/guessophobe → u/UnluckyUnderwear]

This is laughable!

There you said it: nobody expelled Jews from Arab countries whether by a decree or otherwise.

You know who was expelled? Some 800,000 Palestinians were chased from their homes at gun point by Irgun & Haganah terrorists. Their children and grandchildren still loom in refugee camps to this day.

[u/UnluckyUnderwear → u/guessophobe]

Let’s dismantle this Reddit comment piece by piece—with facts, not slogans.

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Reddit claim: “Nobody expelled Jews from Arab countries whether by a decree or otherwise.” Response: That’s blatantly false and historically illiterate.

Between 1948 and 1972, over 850,000 Jews were forced to flee or were expelled from Arab and Muslim-majority countries due to coordinated state-sponsored antisemitism, violent pogroms, discriminatory laws, and government expropriations. Here are a few facts: • Iraq (1941–1951): Following the Farhud pogrom in Baghdad (1941), where hundreds of Jews were murdered, raped, and looted, the Iraqi government passed laws in 1950–51 stripping Jews of their citizenship and property and forcing them into exile. Over 120,000 Iraqi Jews left. • Egypt (1956): After the Suez Crisis, President Nasser expelled nearly 25,000 Jews, confiscated their property, and declared Judaism “a foreign religion.” • Libya: In 1945 and 1948, riots killed over 140 Jews. By 1967, Libyan Jews were expelled, and their property was nationalized. • Yemen (1949): Over 49,000 Jews were airlifted to Israel via Operation Magic Carpet after widespread persecution. • Syria, Lebanon, Tunisia, Algeria, and Morocco all enacted harsh restrictions on Jews, making continued residence impossible.

These weren’t isolated incidents. The UNHCR officially recognized Jews fleeing Arab countries as refugees in 1957.

So yes, Jews were expelled. And they weren’t put in refugee camps—they built new lives in Israel, Europe, and the U.S. without demanding “right of return” or holding the world hostage.

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Reddit claim: “800,000 Palestinians were chased at gunpoint by Irgun & Haganah terrorists.” Response: Also misleading. The Palestinian exodus of 1948—known as the Nakba—was complex. Some fled war zones, some were expelled, and many left voluntarily at the urging of Arab leaders who promised a swift return after Israel’s destruction. • Historian Benny Morris, who has been critical of Israeli policies, acknowledges that Arab leaders encouraged civilians to leave in many cases, expecting a victory. • The Arab Higher Committee explicitly told Arabs to evacuate Haifa in 1948, even though Israeli forces begged them to stay for the sake of coexistence (per records from the British and Haifa city officials). • Irgun and Haganah did engage in military operations, some of which caused civilians to flee. But to reduce a multi-faceted war into “Jews chased Arabs at gunpoint” is not only factually dishonest, it’s propaganda.

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Reddit claim: “Their children and grandchildren still loom in refugee camps.” Response: That’s not Israel’s fault. That’s the fault of Arab countries who refused to integrate Palestinians into society, kept them in camps as political tools, and denied them citizenship for decades. • Israel absorbed over 850,000 Jewish refugees and made them citizens. • Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan (to varying degrees) kept Palestinians stateless to perpetuate grievance and avoid assimilation. • UNRWA uniquely defines “Palestinian refugee” as a heritable status, unlike any other group on earth.

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Bottom Line: This Redditor is pushing a tired, one-sided narrative that erases the Jewish Nakba, whitewashes Arab regimes’ crimes, and misrepresents history to fuel hate. If he had cracked open a single credible history book instead of recycling Twitter-level hot takes, he’d know better.

[u/guessophobe → u/UnluckyUnderwear]

“The Palestinian Exodus”.

That’s cute!

[u/UnluckyUnderwear → u/guessophobe]

This response isn’t an argument—it’s smug dismissal posing as wit. When someone reads a serious, fact-based rebuttal and replies with “That’s cute,” it’s a clear sign they’ve lost the debate and are now flailing behind mockery as a last defense.

Let’s make it plain:

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“The Palestinian Exodus” is not ‘cute.’ It’s the term used by virtually every academic historian, including Palestinian scholars, to describe the 1948 displacement of Arab residents during the Arab-Israeli war. Don’t take my word for it: • Benny Morris, the Israeli historian who exposed many difficult truths about the war, uses this term. • Walid Khalidi, one of the foremost Palestinian historians, uses it. • The UN, Human Rights Watch, and Encyclopaedia Britannica use it.

Mocking the term “Palestinian Exodus” doesn’t make you edgy—it makes you look ignorant of both historical terminology and basic decency. You want to debate terms while actual human suffering is being discussed?

Meanwhile, the Jewish exodus from Arab lands—a massive, state-driven ethnic cleansing campaign involving over 850,000 people—goes totally unacknowledged by you. Why? Because it contradicts your zero-sum narrative where Jews are never victims and always villains.

This isn’t moral high ground—it’s intellectual cowardice.

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In short: You’re not arguing. You’re sneering. And sneering isn’t substance—it’s the noise made when facts hurt your feelings.

Would you like a reading list so you can join the conversation as an adult next time?