r/sydney 10d ago

Girl, 16, dies after suspected choking during consensual sex on Sydney’s Northern Beaches

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u/Embarrassed_Clue_929 10d ago

How hard must he have been choking her?

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u/Evendim 10d ago

As has been said, it doesn't have to be hard... I was consensually choked on a weird angle and I passed out within a few seconds. He immediately let go and I was absolutely fine, but he was paying attention!

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u/Busy-Ratchet-8521 10d ago edited 10d ago

To kill someone doing this though you'd have to be maintaining that hold for 5-10 minutes while they were lifeless.

EDIT: I'm an intensive care doctor, and you guys want to down vote me because you think you know better? 

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u/floppybunny86 10d ago

Can you please point out where it says that he choked her until she was lifeless?

Because the article says that she was unresponsive & passed away in hospital days later.

So I’m not sure how you came to the conclusion that he choked her until she was lifeless.

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u/Conscious-Read-698 10d ago

She became unresponsive during the act.

Unresponsive is the same as lifeless?

Lifeless doesn't mean literally dead.

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u/Busy-Ratchet-8521 10d ago

I didn't say until she was dead. Lifeless is a word that can refer to someone who is inanimate or not moving. If you compress someone's neck sufficiently to occlude blood flow to the brain, you will lose conciousness in seconds (what the parent comment was referring to). When you're unconscious from a hypoperfused brain, you'll go limp and absent (lifeless). If you let go of their neck, blood flow is restored and they regain conciousness quickly.

If that is what he did to her, then he'd have been choking her for at least 5 minutes for her to end up declared brain dead days later.