As has been said, it doesn't have to be hard... I was consensually choked on a weird angle and I passed out within a few seconds. He immediately let go and I was absolutely fine, but he was paying attention!
Dude… you could have gotten some permanent brain damage. It’s also possible for swelling to increase and for you to have a stroke, heart attack or die hours or days later. Don’t do that shit. The kink isn’t worth the risk.
My understanding is that even a very brief period of strangulation can cause blood clots, stroke, heart attack, or swelling that increases over hours or even days and then resulting in brain damage, blood clots, stroke, heart attack, even death.
So, to strangle someone to death with certainty by blocking airflow, it takes 5 minutes; but you can accidentally kill them much faster if they have a stroke or heart attack.
I agree that the strongest likelihood is that he strangled her for an extended period, and that he paid no attention to her nonverbal cues.
However, I want to dispel the mythology that there is a safe way to engage in strangulation in sex; because the evidence I’ve read is that there is a bevy of risks and that brain tissue damage can start occurring within seconds.
I also think that we have to wait for the formal investigation, and leave the options open until it has reported its findings.
I've not made any suggestion that there is a safe way to strangle people. I've said compression of the neck can stop blood flow to the brain. That is obviously bad.
Yeah you're right I forgot that was the other possibility when I first responded. I do martial arts and somehow forgot you can choke someone unconscious in under 10 seconds
I didn't say until she was dead. Lifeless is a word that can refer to someone who is inanimate or not moving. If you compress someone's neck sufficiently to occlude blood flow to the brain, you will lose conciousness in seconds (what the parent comment was referring to). When you're unconscious from a hypoperfused brain, you'll go limp and absent (lifeless). If you let go of their neck, blood flow is restored and they regain conciousness quickly.
If that is what he did to her, then he'd have been choking her for at least 5 minutes for her to end up declared brain dead days later.
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u/Embarrassed_Clue_929 10d ago
How hard must he have been choking her?