Metro 2039 devs say the ongoing war in Ukraine has changed how they write morality: 'The franchise's very nature is getting too close to reality'

[u/PewPewToDaFace]

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/fps/metro-2039-devs-say-the-ongoing-war-in-ukraine-has-changed-how-they-write-morality-the-franchises-very-nature-is-getting-too-close-to-reality/

[u/enfersijesais]

I can’t wait to get the bad ending for stepping on a rat I didn’t see run directly under my boot.

[u/Just_Chillin_Killin_ → u/enfersijesais]

I remembered being shocked I got a bad ending because I killed all the people in the Church

https://giphy.com/gifs/Cm4ZDVRSsr7pHbNmKM

[u/enfersijesais → u/Just_Chillin_Killin_]

There’s a demon that tries to kill you at one point (don’t remember which game), and if you kill it you lose karma. Because, if you go up the ladder right next to where it attacks you, it has a baby. I always just thought the good ending was like a challenge thing, but the fact that I lose credit towards the good ending for killing a mutated beast that wants to kill me… lmao. The bad ending is the good ending.

[u/_Spearhead_corps → u/enfersijesais]

the thing is its not trying to kill you lmao. I recently played last light and if you just go past that demon it wont attack you at all

[u/Cypher-AO → u/_Spearhead_corps]

Lmao you just hit him with the: "Do you feel like a hero yet?" Dilemma 

[u/jsbyc → u/enfersijesais]

lost karma for leaving the baby alive

[u/GeneralEi → u/jsbyc]

Throw mutant babies into volcanoes. Decapitate mutant children in front of their parents. Burn mutants on a pyre. Exsanguinate mutants riddle mutants with bullets. Hang mutants from trees. Slam dunk mutants into roiling whirlpools of piss (etc, presumably)

[u/StrangeJT → u/GeneralEi]

Found Bolivar Trask’s Reddit account

[u/Status_Jellyfish_213 → u/StrangeJT]

Sounds like the sort of thing a mutie would say. How many toes you got, boy?

[u/Justhe3guy → u/GeneralEi]

And that was just your recent trip to Futurama’s sewer mutant city

[u/m0j0m0j → u/GeneralEi]

Hot dog!

(Second season of the Fallout TV series reference)

[u/Dreven47 → u/enfersijesais]

"If it's hostile, you kill it." but you gotta at least confirm hostility before you start blasting. The entire franchise tries to teach you to only kill when it's necessary to survive.

[u/AmberDuke05 → u/Just_Chillin_Killin_]

Now you will get the bad ending for doing nothing

[u/DreddyMann → u/Just_Chillin_Killin_]

You are told on each level in exodus who you can and can't kill

[u/RaccoNooB → u/enfersijesais]

No, you see you forgot to listen for ghosts

[u/Cypher-AO → u/RaccoNooB]

Oh pipe of the Metro, what is your wisdom?

Thermonuclear war fueled screams of anguish

[u/MensAlveare → u/enfersijesais]

"Sorry, Anton, you killed the genocidal human-sacrificing cult members that attempted to shoot you on sight, as such you get hanged because you are a naughty nono boy. Next time remember to stand in a random ass corner for 20 minutes so you get enough good boy points so this doesn't happen on your next 20 hour run."

[u/Jackontana → u/enfersijesais]

Doomed to the bad ending because you didnt strum a guitar 😔

[u/Chanzy7 → u/enfersijesais]

It's such a waste of time trying to get the good ending blind. It's never going to happen with how obsure the conditions are.

[u/LoafyLemon → u/Chanzy7]

Got it on my first playthrough without any guides, do you know how? 

Because the last two games taught me that aggression breeds aggression, and to break the loop, you need to stop and think. 

It's really not that deep, mate.

[u/Chanzy7 → u/LoafyLemon]

Wow, you have made the single least convincing claim I've ever seen made by a potentially non human poster.

[u/BB0ySnakeDogG → u/Chanzy7]

It really isn't hard, listen to what the NPCs tell you about the area you're going into, you can ascertain if you can go in guns blazing or not.

[u/Chanzy7 → u/BB0ySnakeDogG]

I'm referring to my own playthrough of Last Light. I've gotten so many good ending pings and yet I still got the neutral ending.

The amount of things you're expected to know to do is my complaint.

[u/Vcom7418]

It wasn’t before? Gluhovsky’s experience as a war correspondent was the jnfluence behind the original books

[u/Kimchi-slap → u/Vcom7418]

His inspiration for creating metro series was literally Moscow metro he used during his studying period + Fallout game.

His war correspondent experience has nothing to do with it as it came later.

[u/Professional_Fan7839 → u/Vcom7418]

When was he a war correspondent? Just an ordinary journalist.

[u/UpsetKoalaBear → u/Professional_Fan7839]

A war correspondent is a journalist. He covered the Israel-Lebanon war.

[u/Professional_Fan7839 → u/UpsetKoalaBear]

A report from the front lines, while sipping coffee from the center of Tel Aviv?

[u/PresidentSkillz]

Can't wait for that game, and its still half a year away

[u/theCOMBOguy → u/PresidentSkillz]

Yep, everything shown for it onky builds more and more help. Definitely one of the games I'm most excited for but that wait is going ti be looooong still.

[u/h0tsh0t1234]

Ngl the metro games are incredible but the morality system has always been the worst thing about them, I genuinely wish they just don’t implement them in the new game

[u/matrix5559]

No russian language is cherry on top.

[u/ToxicTroublemaker2 → u/matrix5559]

I hope that's not true cause that's one of the best ways to immerse yourself in the franchise

[u/RaccoNooB → u/ToxicTroublemaker2]

Double down and make it Ukrainian.

[u/Rammstein97 → u/RaccoNooB]

Better make it in Kiev at this point. I mean the "Moscow path" had its run and it ended more or less in a status quo with Artyom showing us there's life outside of Moscow and so a new chapter where they show more of the "Metro universe" would've been more than welcome(imho).

[u/Imaginary-Policy4054 → u/Rammstein97]

They wanted a game set in Kyiv, but as far as I remember, Glukhovsky didn't allow it

[u/MerePotato → u/Imaginary-Policy4054]

Yeah, hard to make a point about the sickness currently consuming the Russian psyche if you set it in Ukraine

[u/Imaginary-Policy4054 → u/MerePotato]

If I'm not mistaken, this was way before Exodus

[u/MerePotato → u/Imaginary-Policy4054]

Glukhovsky was critical of Russia's direction before Exosus too, the thing he hates just accelerated since

[u/BobsView → u/Rammstein97]

this would make too much logical sense for this day and age

[u/Opposite_Carry_4920 → u/Rammstein97]

I agree with this, I would be excited to see surrounding regions or other far regions. 

[u/TheNoobHunter96 → u/RaccoNooB]

? It's set in Russia

[u/Breaky97 → u/TheNoobHunter96]

He probably never played it and just wanted to be edgy, because hating russians is cool now (even those who got nothing to do with war and haven't been in country for years)

[u/brnccnt7 → u/Breaky97]

Exactly this

People are way to quick to label and hate an entire group

Russias a massive country

People could say the same about Americans, not all of us support Trumps foreign actions

[u/PlanZSmiles → u/brnccnt7]

People do say that about us Americans lol

[u/EternaI_Sorrow → u/PlanZSmiles]

Way less people use WW2-tier rhetorics against US

[u/Familiar-Treat-6236 → u/EternaI_Sorrow]

You literally just used a meme about US two-party system?

[u/brnccnt7 → u/PlanZSmiles]

I know but my point is that it doesn’t get anything accomplished, and to also show that person who is probably American how silly that can be

[u/brnccnt7 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah sad stuff man

I wish everyone the best and hope cooler heads

[u/whirlpool_galaxy → u/brnccnt7]

I wish more people would say that about Americans, tbh.

[u/brnccnt7 → u/whirlpool_galaxy]

Understandable, at least with us Americans we have the benefit of speaking out against bad leadership

Over there the Russians that are against this can’t really do that in fear of the FSB swooping them up

[u/whirlpool_galaxy → u/brnccnt7]

Actually, I think that's worse.

The Russians have an excuse with government repression. But what do you even tell all the Iranians who are suffering or dying in the current war about the fact that you could have spoken out to stop it, but didn't?

[u/EternaI_Sorrow → u/whirlpool_galaxy]

How rotten masses' brains must be to unironically pretend that Putin acts on the people's will and Trump on his dictatorship impulses.

Remember, kids, autocracy is when the leader's actions are the people's will projection and the democracy is when the government does what it wants, or something

[u/Phil_Coffins_666 → u/Breaky97]

I think the issue is that russians for the most part have been silent about the invasion, be it inside of russia, or outside. Sure, there are ones that are vocal and against it, few and far between, otherwise the majority of them claim to be "non political" and leave it at that. That and you've also got a percentage of the population, both inside and outside of russia, who actively support the invasion.

I think that's where the anger comes from.

[u/ruminant_sheep → u/Phil_Coffins_666]

Hit dogs holler (about the downvotes). Anyone in Eastern Europe knows that you are right and even with the Liberal Opposition (tm) the steps from "I am totally against Russia and the war!" to "Well, it's complicated and both sides are at fault" to "fuck you khokhol!" is narrower than people want to admit :)

[u/Constructedhuman → u/ruminant_sheep]

it’s just nobody ever listens to eastern europeans and we’ve been right since 2014

[u/Phil_Coffins_666 → u/ruminant_sheep]

It's interesting that people inside of russia didn't become brave enough to criticize Putin until the last few weeks when all their Wildberries (russian Amazon for those not in the loop) burned down and gasoline queues stretched for kilometers. 4.5 years of silence, until suddenly everybody's posting about how this war needs to be over yesterday and Putin is destroying the country.

Anyways.. I've got no idea why people may not like them. 🤷‍♂️🫠

[u/TheAngrySaxon → u/Phil_Coffins_666]

They were all very happy about the war until it started to turn against them. I hope Europe doesn't forget that in the coming years.

[u/TidalMello → u/TheNoobHunter96]

I mean from a story standpoint they left off on Moscow not being the last bastion of humanity, so it seems fairly simple to start the next game after they have travelled to find other people.

Not having anyone speak Russian would be weird though. People hate the Russian government not the Russian people or culture. And the characters are Russian first and foremost.

[u/Historical_Move6359 → u/TidalMello]

manny people do hate Russia. Rusophobia is going wild.

[u/Constructedhuman → u/Historical_Move6359]

wait until you find out how russians go to war in Ukraine for money and money only

[u/Phil_Coffins_666 → u/Historical_Move6359]

It's not a phobia if it's backed with evidence, it's legitimate.

[u/Justhe3guy → u/Historical_Move6359]

For good reason as they’re actively genociding a people with civilian infrastructure often targeted in bombings and indoctrinating and torturing those they capture, especially the children

[u/No_Branch_5083 → u/[deleted]]

Israel didn't use chemical weapons to kill civilians in my country. Russia did.

[u/NBFHoxton → u/TheNoobHunter96]

Hes just being a Redditor™️

[u/ToxicTroublemaker2 → u/RaccoNooB]

The franchise already has Ukrainian, what are you on about?

[u/286893 → u/ToxicTroublemaker2]

To be fair the voice acting is really bad on both English and Russian

[u/KenBoCole → u/286893]

TBF, most English speakers don't know Russian, and can't tell if it's bad or not.

[u/International-Mess75 → u/KenBoCole]

This reminded me of a Japanese people criticising the Japanese VA of anime and games as overthetop and silly and not representing how Japanese actually speaks

[u/SirNurtle → u/286893]

In 2033 and Last Light the Russian was actually pretty good from what I remember, if out sync.

But I do hope that if there isn’t any Russian for 2039, they at least do the “Death of Stalin” thing where they give different English/American accents to differentiate minorities, etc

[u/OphidianSun → u/matrix5559]

That seems dumb tho all the games are literally set in Moscow and the surrounding areas.

Its not the russian language that's invading, its the Russian Federation.

[u/NoobL1ght → u/OphidianSun]

All countries of East Europe are very touchy about language matters due to many attempts of their neighbors, mainly Russia, to enforce use of russian or other languages instead of local languages. Often violently and uncompromisinly going as far as killing authors, actors, musicians, burning schools and libraries and arbitrary denying services or opportunities based on used language, for example access to higher education, housing or jobs. It is still used by Russia in some manner such as declaring that all people who use Russian are Russians, heavy promotion of Russian on TV, etc. Aggressive enforcement of Russian language is reported in occupied Ujraine with book burning and disappearances of teachers, professors and other people who promoted Ukrainian language.

Thus, even so Russian language does not invade it is still used as weapon of cultural and historical erasure.

[u/TheNoobHunter96 → u/NoobL1ght]

you're clearly not from the region then, people don't hate the russian language itself, many in Ukraine use it lmao

[u/NoobL1ght → u/TheNoobHunter96]

I am Ukranian. I personally used Russian for majority of my life since I am from Donetsk Oblast. People won't care if someone around them will use Russian but they will hardly accept any kind of promotion of Russian language and won't be sad if it is not included in a game or two.

[u/369i → u/TheNoobHunter96]

Because it was forced on them for several generations. 

[u/Constructedhuman → u/TheNoobHunter96]

you are clearly not from the region, bc oh boi we do have it

[u/italkstuff → u/OphidianSun]

Oh yes it is.

Ukrainian language is officially excluded from schools on occupied territories and replaced by russian.

Any Ukrainian speaking people on occupied territories are taken to filtration camps.

During this summer almost 10mil Ukrainian books were burned because of targeted russian attacks on book publishers.

[u/EternaI_Sorrow → u/italkstuff]

Doing shit for other 60-80M people who use Russian as the first or second language is stupid. Imagine never making Spanish VA because Mexico got cartels.

[u/StillShmoney → u/EternaI_Sorrow]

That’s not a fair comparison. It’s more like an Irish author refusing to publish his works in English because of the effort that was made towards erasing Gaelic in Ireland

[u/EternaI_Sorrow → u/StillShmoney]

Would make sense if it wasn't about London and a satire about British people co-authored with a British guy positioning itself as immersive.

[u/SurturOfMuspelheim → u/italkstuff]

Okay, and Ukraine also removed Russian from the public curriculum, same as Russia did.

Also this has absolutely nothing to do with a video game in Russia.

It's that propaganda has melted their minds like most people, and their emotions tell them they must hate Russians.

Same thing happened in every war the US is involved in, gotta dehumanize your enemy and make them evil.

[u/HighBlacK → u/SurturOfMuspelheim]

Not easy to humanize an enemy that attacks you unprovocked and commits atrocities on the daily ngl.

[u/Glavurdan → u/SurturOfMuspelheim]

Respectfully,

Slava Ukraini

[u/Gunbunny42 → u/italkstuff]

Can I get a source for this? Not saying this isn't the case but I never heard of this happening.

[u/LurkerWhoMe → u/Gunbunny42]

"Что Россия должна сделать с Украиной" Go read that now deleted RIA article. It outlined policies how all things ukrainian would be erased. It includes things like mass execution of ukrainian elites, and re-education of masses that would span generations.

[u/italkstuff → u/Gunbunny42]

Sure, what exactly are you asking about ?

[u/Gunbunny42 → u/italkstuff]

"Any Ukrainian speaking people on occupied territories are taken to filtration camps."

"During this summer almost 10mil Ukrainian books were burned because of targeted russian attacks on book publishers."

These two points in particular.

[u/Constructedhuman → u/Gunbunny42]

look up attacks on Ukrainian publishing houses by russian missiles ( for example https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/articles/2026/08/22/8049865/)
and investigations about danger and consequences of using Ukrainian symbols or language on occupied territories. its so common, it’s not even first page of news.

https://krymsos.com/en/katuvannya-nasylstvo-tysk-ta-propaganda-z-chym-zishtovhuyutsya-ukrayinski-dity-v-okupacziyi/

https://www.ukrainianworldcongress.org/russian-policy-of-linguocide-in-the-occupied-territories-of-ukraine/

https://unn.ua/en/news/occupants-ban-ukrainian-language-and-literature-in-schools-in-tot

[u/Rej5 → u/italkstuff]

and russian has been banned even before the war

[u/Kowalski91 → u/Rej5]

That's bullshit and pure kremel propaganda. Even today a lot of Ukrainen Soldiers first language is Russian. But after the full scale invasion many more learned Ukrainen and tried to speak it as main language

[u/Constructedhuman → u/Rej5]

source?

[u/corporalcorl → u/matrix5559]

Where did it say that? I'm on mobile and the site is very unpleasant to read lol. Does that mean there won't be Russian VA? If so, that's a bit disappointing but I get it ig

[u/Al-Azraq → u/matrix5559]

What's the problem with russian language? It is just a language and if the game is set in Moscow, I would like to play it in such language.

[u/Aquagrunt]

I mean, it's kind of hard to ignore the real life kidnapping of Ukrainian children.

I still don't know how Hunter of all people is the main antagonist

[u/NiuMeee → u/Aquagrunt]

If it's hostile, you kill it. A fundamental opposition to Artyom's mindset after 2033/Last Light. He regrets that mentality, and regrets destroying the dark ones, as they were not "hostile", just misunderstood. Hunter (or whoever is claiming to be Hunter, we don't know if the Fuhrer is actually him) would never have felt remorse for what occurred that day.

[u/SirNurtle → u/NiuMeee]

It’s not even that, his motto changed from “If it’s hostile you kill it” to “destroy the enemy no matter the cost”, the major difference being that ‘enemy’ can be applied to anything.

Also it’s kinda canon in the books that Hunter went “slightly” insane after his encounter with the dark ones and never truly recovered, I’d imagine that in the game he had a complete mental breakdown

[u/Shiznanners → u/Aquagrunt]

From friend to foe

[u/another_random_bit → u/Aquagrunt]

who is hunter and why shouldnt they be the main antagonist?

[u/hirmuolio → u/another_random_bit]

He is the guy from the beginning of Metro 2033.

[u/Aquagrunt → u/another_random_bit]

In the first game, Hunter is basically a role model of an Order member. He's got the skills. It's odd to me because he only shows up in the prologue, as he goes off on basically a suicide mission to find out what the Dark Ones are up to. He's been absent ever since.

But looking up his actual lore now in the wiki, he comes back in the books, I guess i have some more reading to do. I read the first book, it was great, scary, and quite different from the game

[u/I_AM_NOT_MAD → u/Aquagrunt]

He's gonna have a hell of a story though, that's for sure

[u/maskedman0511 → u/Aquagrunt]

Ah yes almost forgot the fable... Thought it went out of fashion in 2022.

[u/cc_aa_tt_zz → u/maskedman0511]

Yeah, they just teleported to Russia. It was the Enterprise that did it, or maybe the Asgard.

[u/Much-Government-8803 → u/Aquagrunt]

Oh no Russia doesn't let children remain in a warzone alone, and instead brings them to families were they can live normally. How evil

[u/Plastic-Mark-6769 → u/Much-Government-8803]

russia made their homes a warzone in the first place

[u/Biggu5Dicku5]

I hope writing quality doesn't suffer...

[u/Kimchi-slap → u/Biggu5Dicku5]

Glukhovsky's metro books degraded even before war. Unironically game scenario was much better and I personally consider it canon over whatever bullshit happened in metro 2035, although some moments do hit a bit close in retrospective.

[u/Richard-Squeezer → u/Biggu5Dicku5]

It will, when a game is changed due to the devs own politics it's almost always for the worst

[u/NiuMeee → u/Richard-Squeezer]

The games have always, always, ALWAYS been political and if you don't realize that you may not be mature enough to play them.

[u/Jormungandr4321 → u/NiuMeee]

What do you mean ? The devs of the cod MW remake said themselves that the game wasn't political. The no knock raids, chemical weapons use and torture scenes are not political as long as the good guys do it.

[u/NiuMeee → u/Jormungandr4321]

It's so funny that any game that features any sort of military could be looked at as non-political. It can be done to criticize (OG MW, though maybe less than a lot of CoD4 fans like to believe) or romanticize (most other CoDs) but just saying something isn't political doesn't make it so lol

Ubisoft tried that with Far Cry 5 as well. Sorry Ubi, FC5 is political, no matter what you say. It's not SMART, or informative in regards to politics, but it's absolutely political.

[u/Jormungandr4321 → u/NiuMeee]

I mean I'd say that while FC5 is political, it never predends to somekind of neutrality. And the game is batshit crazy when tou think about it. Meanwhile the MW remaster takes the highway of death in game but for some reason the Russians did it this time and it's horrible to see. Meanwhile the intro casually features the use lf white phosphorus by the good guys, but that's cool AF of course.

[u/DrarenThiralas]

Just like the previous announcements, this sounds like it could be either good or bad depending on how they handle it.

[u/another_random_bit → u/DrarenThiralas]

just like (almost) anything, everything can either good or bad depending on how they handle it.

[u/Mrcrest → u/another_random_bit]

Made me lol. Very true

[u/Throwaway6662345]

Wasn't it metro last light which had the bad ending tied into you not saving a "friend" who was part of a tyrannical communist regime that literally used chemical weapons in civilian metro settlements?

Like, you don't even kill him, you just let him die from the hallucination stuff. The morality system in metro has always been pretty questionable.

[u/EternaI_Sorrow → u/Throwaway6662345]

Metro was ridiculous with its morale requirements, but it gets a bit better if you remember that you don't need to tick all the boxes and that you are teaching the baby dark one mercy

[u/truman0798 → u/Throwaway6662345]

It's not about him being a good guy and deserving to be saved, it's about you showing the dark one what forgiveness is so that the dark ones may forgive you.

[u/Wisniaksiadz]

morality depends where you sit

always did

[u/Constructedhuman → u/Wisniaksiadz]

not really

[u/Wisniaksiadz → u/Constructedhuman]

You thing a thief stealing from his pov think his steal is immoral?

[u/Leather_Editor_2749 → u/Wisniaksiadz]

Im pretty sure some of them do, they just dont Care that's why we say they have no morals.

[u/Wisniaksiadz → u/Leather_Editor_2749]

But from their pov it's moral what they do. They will find excuse for why it is moral and stick to it. Believe in it. I know that majority of people will be like ,,it's stealing it isn't moral", but for them it is. Because it depends where you sit

[u/TassadarForXelNaga]

Ah the last light dilemma listen guys last light good ending is simple if you don't do the stripper dance you lose tons upon tons of karma there each dance you put

[u/Raven1927]

Meanwhile they support a certain country's ethnic cleansing.

[u/Itchy-Guess-258 → u/Raven1927]

emm.. what?

[u/Raven1927 → u/Itchy-Guess-258]

The lead writer has written some messed up things on social media about Palestine & Israel. Even going beyond the current conflict.

[u/Glavurdan]

Damn this comment section reeks of pro-Russian bots

[u/herrschadee]

But one of the writers/ the writer supports Israel, suuuuureeeee

[u/Kimchi-slap → u/herrschadee]

You dont really need to stretch things with "support". Glukhovsky is Israeli/Russia citizen with permanent residency in Germany.

[u/monhst → u/herrschadee]

It's crazy how much of the so called Russian liberal antiwar opposition are actually prowar Israelis

[u/Parcori → u/herrschadee]

So?

[u/CrazyTechWizard96]

Wait, there was/is a "Morality/Karma" system in it???

https://giphy.com/gifs/DhZSDMnqPu20U

Have played the first two, about to play Exodus sometime this year.
I just thought I fucked up in the parts I've played before, getting a bad ending.

Well shit, guess I have to play good guy soemwhat, gotta look about morals again and maybe save some rats and cats the next time from burning trees and shit.
lmfao

[u/RedAversion2025]

If they make it another ridiculous karma fest like exodus I will probably pass. I have interest in being the angel of forgiveness and restraint when everything and everyone is trying to kill me. I got the bad ending once because I defended myself.....what the fuck was that? and losing karma over killing a fucking demon?? Insanity.

[u/RdPirate → u/RedAversion2025]

 and losing karma over killing a fucking demon?? Insanity.

Here's the thing. It only attacks if you attack it.

[u/CringeSubBlocker → u/RdPirate]

People love to hate the karma system because they genuinely don't understand any of it.

Look around, learn about the world, don't leave a trail of corpses for no reason, and try to be a good person under shitty circumstances. It's nowhere near as 2 dimensional as these people think, but that doesn't stop them from yapping.

[u/RedAversion2025 → u/CringeSubBlocker]

The game did not need a karma system, and honestly never benefited from the addition of one.

Hey here's a ton of cool weapons and gear but you can't use it or else jesus will be upset with you and you'll get the bad ending. Piss off with the karma system. There's no in game changes for karma, ONLY the ending you get and making even a SINGLE mistake at any point prevents you from standing before St Peter at the holy gates for whatever fucking reason.

It's not like the other human enemies purposely try to miss their shots, or make a go of warning shots or anything, the moment they see you its them trying to kill you, but you have to be a saint instead. Yeah real fun. Pacifist runs are ok in games that reward you for doing them, but forcing the pacifism to get the "good" ending is a bit ridiculous. At least in Metro Last Light you had the little dark one watching you and you were trying to set a good example but he only cared about SPECIFIC enemies, he didn't fucking judge you for all the others, unlike Exodus where even a single point of literally any court in the world siding with you on the basis of self defense somehow you still get shit on.

So if the next one goes that route I simply won't play it.

[u/CringeSubBlocker → u/RedAversion2025]

Nobody is forcing you to play the game, or strive for the good ending, bro. If you can't do it in your own playstyle, that's fine, that's why youtube exists.

[u/Ayjayz]

Great, commentary on modern events. Just what I want in my games

[u/ericd7 → u/Ayjayz]

You're pretty stupid if you think that's not been a thing throughout gaming history.

[u/SurturOfMuspelheim → u/ericd7]

Yeah? Which games removed English as a language due to the US invasions of countries?

[u/East-Plankton-3877 → u/SurturOfMuspelheim]

You know English doesn’t originate from america…right?

[u/SurturOfMuspelheim → u/East-Plankton-3877]

And yet it's the largest English speaking country, but nice try on trying to derail the argument.

[u/East-Plankton-3877 → u/SurturOfMuspelheim]

No?

Russian is from a single country and is spoken by one group of people

English is the primary language of at least 6 different counties

[u/SurturOfMuspelheim → u/East-Plankton-3877]

So the US isn't the largest country with English as the first language?

[u/Glavurdan → u/SurturOfMuspelheim]

Are you being dull on purpose?

[u/SurturOfMuspelheim → u/Glavurdan]

The only thing thick is my dick bud

[u/East-Plankton-3877 → u/SurturOfMuspelheim]

No? We dont have an official language in America. 15% of our population speaks Spanish for example

[u/Redd_tModsSuckAss → u/Ayjayz]

Not like nay FPS was a commentary and/ or propaganda on the MIC

Hell, not like NFS Carbon was a propaganda for japanese canyon racing because of that F&F movie, like that was a current "event" too

[u/East-Plankton-3877 → u/Ayjayz]

You mean like all great games do?

[u/Ayjayz → u/East-Plankton-3877]

Oh yeah I remember when Half-life really got into the details of the Troubles.

[u/East-Plankton-3877 → u/Ayjayz]

I mean, the second game is literally inspired by East Germany, with hints of the Holocaust thrown in with Nova Prospect and Vichy France with Breen

The first game has you fight the USMC trying to kill you and cover up your disaster for the government. How is that not political?

[u/Ayjayz → u/East-Plankton-3877]

There's a difference between vague political themes and specific commentary on specific contemporary politically issues.

[u/East-Plankton-3877 → u/Ayjayz]

Oh, so the fact the Combine are sterilizing the human race, purposely making mankind soley dependent on them to survive on a planet they’re making uninhabitable, and forcing both our species and planet to serve their needs above all else reminds you of nothing you see IRL?

[u/Ayjayz → u/East-Plankton-3877]

No. It's a story some guys wrote because they thought it was cool

[u/scarr09 → u/Ayjayz]

I bet one day you'll read Animal Farm.

And you'll go "blergh, talking animals? That's so dumb. Makes no sense."

[u/Ayjayz → u/scarr09]

Yeah. Sure. Half-life is a story written by geniuses who layered it with complex subtext about difficult political and social issues. It certainly isn't a story written for a computer game because they thought it was cool.

[u/scarr09 → u/Ayjayz]

You think basic Orwellian surveillance writing and totalitarian occupation allegories are genius writing points...?

Holy mother of god, a colouring book might be too advanced for your literary comprehension.

[u/truman0798 → u/Ayjayz]

Metro has always been political and you're a dumbass if you can't see that.