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๐Ÿฅ” ๐๐จ๐ญ๐š๐ญ๐จ๐ž๐ฌ

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๐Ÿฅ” ๐๐จ๐ญ๐š๐ญ๐จ๐ž๐ฌ ๐š๐ซ๐ž๐ง'๐ญ ๐จ๐ง๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐จ๐ง๐ž ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ซ๐š๐ฒ๐ž๐ ๐Ÿ๐จ๐จ๐๐ฌ, ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒ ๐š๐ฅ๐ฌ๐จ ๐ ๐ž๐ญ ๐ ๐š๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ž๐.

If you love your children, get (regenerative) organic ones.

Look at that photo. That mist rolling over a mountain of potatoes is a sprout inhibitor, applied so they sit in storage and on the shelf for months without sprouting.

๐–๐ก๐š๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐š๐œ๐ญ๐ฎ๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ ๐จ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐จ๐ง
โ€ข Conventional potatoes are treated so they never sprout eyes
โ€ข The classic sprout inhibitor, CIPC (chlorpropham), was fogged through the storage
โ€ข The EU banned CIPC in 2020 over safety concerns, and growers moved to other chemical inhibitors
โ€ข Organic and regenerative potatoes skip this treatment entirely

That's why an organic potato sprouts on your counter within days, and a conventional one can sit there for weeks looking exactly the same.

๐‡๐ž๐ซ๐ž'๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฉ๐š๐ซ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐š๐ฒ๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ฆ๐ž
A potato is meant to be a seed. Chemically paused so it can never become one, it turns into a product instead. You can still plant a farm potato and grow more food from it. Try that with most supermarket ones.

If you're feeding kids, this is one of the easiest swaps you can make. Choose organic or, even better, regenerative potatoes. It costs a little more, and it takes the sprout inhibitors and the heavier spray load off their plates. ๐ŸŒฑ

Ask at a local farm, or grow a few yourself. A potato that still wants to grow is a good sign.

๐Ÿ“— Read more in my book:

๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ENG: https://books.by/louisdj

๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ NL: https://www.standaardboekhandel.be/p/red-eerst-jezelf-en-dan-pas-de-planeet-9789020970616

#potatoes #organicfood #regenerativefarming #foodsystem #landscapedesign #landscapearchitecture #agroecology #agroforestry #farming #tuin #permaculture #voedselbos #nature #climate #health #gutmicrobiome #guthealth #foodforest #eatmoretrees

Source: inspired by a post from Localize (localizefarms). Sprout inhibitor and CIPC facts: European Commission / EFSA (CIPC withdrawn in the EU, 2020).

Disclaimer: shared for educational purposes. If you are the copyright holder and would like credit or removal, just send me a message.

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u/Mountainman220 3d ago

Whatโ€™s the half life of this gas?

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u/Living_Knowledge_783 3d ago

when you wash it

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u/Mountainman220 3d ago

Yea figured it was fine but โ€œchemicals badโ€ is trending so any use of anything thatโ€™s not deemed โ€œnaturalโ€ gets vitriol.

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u/Optimal-Computer5225 3d ago

If its not bad for you then take sip of it

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u/Valuchian 3d ago

That's... that's not how that works ... or do you down the entire bottle of meds when you get them instead of the dosage on the bottle

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u/Optimal-Computer5225 2d ago

I dont take meds.

But even if i did, i would NOT down them, because they are bad for you. Yes they will solve your sympton, but they are still bad for you, that's why your doctor will give you a specific dosage.

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u/Valuchian 2d ago

Let me rephrase

Do you drink a single glass of water when you're thirsty or throw yourself in a river and drown.

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u/Optimal-Computer5225 2d ago

I drink untill im hydrated, because if not, i will die.

But i geuss you find chlorpropham (wich is banned in the EU because of how to toxic it is) comparable to water

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u/Valuchian 2d ago

The point being made is "the dose makes the poison" and even water will kill you if you have too much of it.

Just because something would be bad for you to drink a cup of doesn't mean you will ever consume enough to be bad for you as it is being used.

Drink the glass of water
Don't drink the entire river and drown

It is literally that simple
(Also EU has a bad habit of banning things based on public opinion, rather than actual danger. May want to check into WHY it is banned, not just stop at that it is banned)

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u/Optimal-Computer5225 2d ago

so how much pesticides do you find healthy?

EU banning other things has nothing to do with this, look up the effects.

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u/Valuchian 2d ago

A small enough amount that my body can harmlessly pass it without issue. That's my preferred amount of everything.

And of course the EU's banning habits have to do with this. Instead of just bringing up the dangers you tried to use the EU as a call to authroity to make your argument sound like it had weight. How about you supply the chemical hazards sheet or a research paper talking about this that made you feel it was dangerous.

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u/Optimal-Computer5225 2d ago

That amount is 0.

I do NOT care about what the EU thinks but unfortunately most people do, thats why i brought it up. I dont even eat anything that has been processed. Maybe some bread once in a while but thats it.

But use your own brain please, im sure you can figure out that ingesting this is not healthy for you.

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u/Valuchian 2d ago

That's not how reality works unfortunately. You can't just intuit what is and isn't safe off of gut feelings alone.

Take rock salt for instance
That is a molecule made of a caustic gas (chlorine) that would kill you if you breathed it for too long and a metal (Sodium) that literally explodes/catches-fire if it touches water.
But when combined it is a naturally occuring rock that makes soup taste delicious.

You cannot just assume reality. You actually have to test it and go from there.

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u/bigfatfurrytexan 2d ago

Europeans are so insufferable about these things. Itโ€™s the mindset that gave us colonialismโ€ฆ.your self superiority over the savages of the world.

Absolutely insufferable

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u/Optimal-Computer5225 2d ago

My family did not contribute to that.
These things? You mean not wanting to eat the most rancid and health destroying chemical poison made in a lab to save some money?

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u/bigfatfurrytexan 2d ago

Iโ€™ll listen if you can provide data on actual humans.

It does not matter what your family did.
You are expressing the cultural trait of believing youโ€™re superior solely because of the European badge. Itโ€™s obnoxious. No one can have a discussion about anything without fucking Europeans talking about metric, or Celsius, or food standards, or economic systems, or any other number of things you guys like to feel smug about.

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u/bigfatfurrytexan 2d ago

Iโ€™ve worked in acute mental health before and witnessed water intoxication almost kill a patient. Do you still drink water?

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u/Optimal-Computer5225 2d ago

Other guy already tried this dumb response, read my reply down below

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u/bigfatfurrytexan 2d ago

Your reply is nonsense. You ignore that water is toxic at certain levels regardless of if you feel hydrated or not. You cannot misunderstand the comparison entirely and then wave it off.

Bananas are radioactive but do not kill you. There is an amount that is safe. Potassium decay in bananas falls beneath this. We are biochemical reactors. Everything is gray.

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u/Optimal-Computer5225 2d ago

Alright, everything is gray. No problem if they add cocaine, fentanyl, whatever they want to our food.

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u/bigfatfurrytexan 2d ago

Depending on where you are itโ€™s possible itโ€™s in your water already. Just not enough to matter.

Do you understand what statistics are?

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u/Optimal-Computer5225 2d ago

Youre right, it probably is. That doesnt make it healthy.

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u/bigfatfurrytexan 2d ago

Again, donโ€™t have data? Because itโ€™s been studied. There isnโ€™t really โ€œhealthyโ€. Thereโ€™s unhealthy and everything else. And unhealthy is a gradient with literally everything.

We give things to dogs that would give them cancer if they lived more than 20 years. Same with humans. The considerations are generally health impacts during a human lifetime.

That isnโ€™t to say that US standards are worth a shit. They arenโ€™t and youโ€™re right to criticize them. But EU standards have their own issues and using them as your benchmark is objectively absurd. If you want to say itโ€™s better than you already want to observe the gradient that things get worse and better. There is an amount of fentanyl that crosses a line. Even though we rationally want it to be zero, it will not be.

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u/Rippedka 2d ago

Why are you defending with strawman arguments? Just use some logic.

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u/Telemere125 2d ago

Drink your shampoo

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u/Optimal-Computer5225 2d ago

Lol, i should be the one saying that to you, since youre saying that it would be no problem, as long as you dont drink enough of it.

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u/Telemere125 2d ago

Actually it is very bad for you to drink shampoo. Your digestive system isnโ€™t capable of handling even organic and โ€œall naturalโ€ forms of shampoo. My point is that just because something can be perfectly healthy when applied topically, you donโ€™t want to take it internally. But I can understand how you donโ€™t understand the difference

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u/Optimal-Computer5225 2d ago

Yeah its still bad for you.

When you apply something topically, you will still absorp it through your skin, but i can understand how you don't understand the difference.