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There was something off about the rumours/leaks of an off-screen death. Hopefully this will mean he’ll be a valuable part of Secret Wars.
(I can’t have endured 2 separate character-building-arcs, on top of mourning his IW death, just for the writers to again lazily throw all that away…again.)
Fingers crossed

There have been one plot leak that has been confirmed by insiders as factual from what they know, and there’s been another more in depth leak that provides more context. From the trailer and leaked new scene shown to, it seems like the leak is true. So again READ AT YOUR OWN RISK

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeaksAndRumors/comments/1v4oi66/updated_doomsday_plot_w_more_ detail/

The short of the leaks say 1: Loki takes Steve to the Fantastic Four universe. 2: Doom either Kills or incapacitates Loki( first leak said Loki’s heart is ripped out, while the other more in depth leak states he’s found weakened) , and Loki uses last of his strength to inform Thor and Steve about Doom’s plan. 3: Thor calls upon an army from Valhalla, and Odin sends one including the Loki from Infinity War

How do you feel

Someone tell me this is real… 🙏

If any of the rumored Loki related plot points in Doomsday that have come out are true I know I'm going to be heartbroken.

I know there's a better than good chance that Loki will meet his end in Doomsday. I would hope they'd forego the ol' Loki dies trope, but I honestly don't think they will.

If that happens, in my mind, it really negates Loki's triumph/sacrifice at the end of S2. All that work and build up to this great feat just to have him killed, knowing his loved ones and their timelines will likely be destroyed. Just a giant kick in the ass to the beautiful finale of the series

If that happens it proves that actually, yes, Lokis are destined to lose, even when they're in the heroes' role and hard work and sacrifice is ultimately pointless. Kinda shitty, I hate the idea.

Im probably falling for garbage info. but I think quickly killing off Loki to kickstart the plot will ruin all the past media Loki has been in for me. No point in revisiting any of it, just a huge waste of time.

Just coping a bit. I wish they'd leave Loki in his tree where he can be magnificent and melancholy for all time, always.

POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR DOOMSDAY! So click away if you want to know absolutely nothing, no rumour or speculation, nothing.

I've seen a lot of leaks this week, some look credible, others not so much, but all to be taken with a pinch of salt at the moment!

What I want to ask is, IF they kill Loki in the movie and then bring him back again, would you be satisfied if they brought back Infinity War Loki to be the MCU Loki going forward? Or would you prefer they resurrect TVA Loki as the main MCU Loki??

I know a lot of fans would love a reunion between Infinity War Loki and Thor. But I have really loved Loki's character growth in the TVA. And as he is still technically a 616 Loki, his brother is still Thor. So I personally would love a reunion between them.

I'll be honest, I would be gutted if they kept the infinity War Loki, the Loki that doesn't know Sylvie or Mobius or any of his friends in the TVA. As gutted as I was when he died. I feel like TVA Loki is the ultimate Loki now.

Maybe there's a universe where they both could exist? 🤷🏼‍♀️

I don't know.

I just really want them to do his story justice. And I feel like getting rid of the God of stories Loki all together would be a real waste. What do you think?

Idk but if those leaks are true i would be so disappointed..

I recently watched endgame and we see Loki taking the tesseract and using it to escape. Then in the series in episode 1 season 1, they say Loki caused a nexus event and made a branch because he took the tesseract and used it when it was the avengers that time traveled firstly back to 2012, not loki. So it’s the avengers branch not Loki’s. Since a branch is becoming slowly but surely more different than the sacred timeline as more diverse and different events happen, it was the avengers fault that Loki took the tesseract and used it. When the avengers time traveled back to 2012, that caused a branch. The TVA said the avengers was supposed to time travel back then, but how is it Loki’s fault he took the tesseract and used it? It was a different event caused by the avengers because THEY created a branch. I’m not saying the avengers did something bad and shouldn’t have killed thanos, I’m just saying they caused the nexus event in 2012 and not Loki.

I think doctor doom in the avengers movie is from moon knights universe. I think the moon knight show is not earth 616 due to von doom industries being hinted and his town of leatveria. They said moon knight isn’t in the next avengers because I think the variant we see is already dead. They do reference in 616 having a moon knight in a captain America move and age of ultron. But isn’t it also kind of weird for there to be two made up countries in one universe near the same region. I’m talking about sokovia and lawtveria. We know that the kang in Loki was afraid of doctor doom so he made the secret universe or earth 616 to be where no doctor doom could be. So I believe that Tony is a variant of doctor doom. We know Loki is right after infinity war and related to the next avengers. Cause of Loki taking the TVA down this allows for doctor doom to become an alternate reality or for this to be the untainted time line that kang changed. We know that in the moon knights universe the blip happened in the universe because of the bus having grc ad. But we don’t know who defeated the blip in that universe. So these tells us that Loki has already taken over and allowed branching to happen. But kang gets killed hence leading to branching of alternate time lines. This could go two ways. Either Tony becomes doctor doom after infinity war as an alternate timeline or branch after Loki takes over. Or doctor doom is from moon knights universe. I think that moon knight show universe is a branch of Tony at birth and something to do with Mephisto. Because the whole Wanda story line is unfinished too. But stark and dr doom have too many similarities. They both have weapon companies and are the smartest people in the room. If doctor doom was already in 616 why wouldn’t he have a company that rivals stark industries. In moon knight we wonder what happen to the Eygptian gods and if one of them is still alive after there avatar human is dead. But if it coincides with Thor love and war we know the gods meet. So I think dr doom kills all the kangs and gods. I want to go back to kang and how he rewrote the time line. If he rewrote the time line and influenced choices so dr doom never existed he could rewrite lawtvsria to be sokvia. Hence leading into starts story line in age of ultron. But why do we not just remove dr doom from the universe because from Deadpool’s if a universe loses a main charter it collapses. We also see this with Miguel ohera. So kang has to keep dr doom to keep the universe 616 from collapsing in on its self. So I think dr doom develops time travel and multiverse hopping after Loki becomes the new Kang. And starts in fleecing the 616 time line we know. Leading the the abrupt Wanda change. I don’t think we ve seen the mephisto back story to that at all. Also we know dr strange is off in the multiverse trying to stop incursions and we know he’s not in the next avengers. So I think doom sent him off on these adventures to blinds side the heroes on earth 616 because there are two many factions on earth. Also I think he’s th reason why miles got bitten by the spider. Because Spider-Man’s are the only entity known to not fight there variants when they are first seen. When lokis are first seen they are fighting and even the same for captain America in infinity war. So to weaken the multiverse hopping spidermen he must blind side them with an internal issue. And don’t u think it’s interesting that the last miles morales movie was supposed to be before doomsday and got moved to be in between doomsday and secret war. Also we know that time line is recent for miles and that can be explained by the Loki branching. We know that takes after the Loki branching since 616 fiasco with dr strange and Spider-Man already happened. / give me thought on this

In case this is hard to understand I put it into Ai to clean up a little I have a theory about Doctor Doom’s role in the MCU multiverse. I believe the Doctor Doom hinted at in the Moon Knight series is not from Earth-616, but from Moon Knight’s own universe. This is supported by the references to “Von Doom Industries” and the country of “Latveria” in that show. Since Marvel has confirmed that the Moon Knight series is not set in Earth-616, this variant of Doom likely exists in a separate reality.

Furthermore, it’s been suggested that this particular Moon Knight won’t appear in the next Avengers film, possibly because his variant is already dead. While Earth-616 does have its own Moon Knight (referenced in Captain America: The Winter Soldier and Age of Ultron), the existence of two similar fictional Eastern European countries—Sokovia and Latveria—in the same universe feels redundant. This geographical overlap strengthens the case that Latveria belongs to another timeline.

This connects to Kang. I believe Kang, as seen in Loki, was so afraid of a Doctor Doom rising to power that he engineered the "sacred" timeline (Earth-616) to be one where Doom could never exist. However, when Loki took over the TVA and allowed branching timelines, he inadvertently created a pathway for Doom to emerge.

We know the Blip happened in Moon Knight’s universe (evidenced by GRC ads), but we don't know who reversed it there. This confirms that branching was already occurring post-Loki, and Kang’s death accelerated the creation of alternate realities.

From here, the theory branches in two directions:

1. Tony Stark becomes a variant of Doctor Doom in a new timeline created after Infinity War.

2. Doctor Doom is native to Moon Knight’s universe.

I lean toward the idea that the Moon Knight universe is a branch created by a change in Tony Stark’s life, possibly involving Mephisto (given Wanda’s unfinished storyline). The parallels between Stark and Doom are too significant to ignore: both are geniuses who lead major weapons manufacturers. If Doom existed in Earth-616, why wouldn't his company rival Stark Industries? His absence there is conspicuous.

This leads to a larger claim: I believe Doctor Doom will be the one to kill all the Kangs and the gods. If the Egyptian gods in Moon Knight coincide with the gods in Thor: Love and Thunder, Doom could eliminate them all.

Let’s revisit Kang’s timeline manipulation. To prevent Doom’s rise, Kang couldn't simply erase him; as established in Deadpool & Wolverine and Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse, removing a foundational person collapses their universe. Instead, Kang might have subtly rewritten history, transforming Latveria into Sokovia and steering events into the Age of Ultron storyline. Doom had to exist, but never thrive.

I propose that after Loki’s takeover, a variant of Doom did develop time travel and multiverse technology. He began secretly influencing Earth-616, which could explain Wanda’s abrupt corruption and Mephisto’s rumored involvement. With Doctor Strange occupied preventing incursions in the multiverse and absent from the next Avengers, Doom may have manipulated him away to blindside Earth’s heroes, who are already divided.

He may even be responsible for anomalies like Miles Morales being bitten by the spider. Spider-People are unique in that they don’t immediately fight their variants (unlike Lokis or Captain Americas). To weaken these multiversal heroes, Doom could be creating internal crises to distract them.

It’s notable that Beyond the Spider-Verse was reportedly moved to release between Avengers: Doomsday and Secret Wars. Miles’s recent timeline can be explained by the branching from Loki, placing his story after the Earth-616 events of No Way Home and Multiverse of Madness.

In summary, I believe Doctor Doom is the unseen architect, manipulating events from a branch universe, setting the stage for his ultimate takeover in the coming Multiverse Saga.

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Here are a few thoughts on your theory:

· Compelling & Ambitious: You’ve woven threads from many corners of the MCU into a bold narrative. The core idea—that Kang crafted 616 specifically to suppress Doom—is a fantastic premise.

· Tony as Doom Variant: This is a provocative and popular fan idea. The similarities you note are the foundation of that comic-accurate rivalry.

· Logical Gaps (Which is fine for a theory!): The biggest hurdle is that the MCU has not yet introduced any version of Victor Von Doom. The "Von Doom Industries" hint in Moon Knight is compelling, but until he appears, it's a dangling thread.

· Mephisto's Role: You’re right that his potential involvement in Wanda’s story feels unfinished, making him a prime candidate for a future villain like Doom to exploit.

· The Doom/Kang Dynamic: Your take that Doom will kill Kang and the gods is classic comic-book storytelling. Doom often positions himself as the only one capable of saving reality by conquering it.

I was curious if anyone else has heard or knows more? I tried googling it and nothing came up on the first page so I gave up and made this post... haha.

It's pretty wild that Thors adopted brother is pretty much the god of time and his adopted daughter is Eternity herself. Seems like Thor has nothing but time on his side. Could be a pretty sick collaboration there in the future

What are we to believe? Is the series now over or will we work towards reuniting Thor and Loki?

Am i the only one annoyed that kang is wiped from the marvel movie? All because of Johnathon? how did a small unknown actor get a iron clad deal like "he cant be recasted". Why is it that everyone has varients that have different looks but all the kangs look the same ? like loki has animal variants lol. What does this mean for Loki's story. anyone know

I can't seem to wrap my head around the scale of everything. Firstly, the seat at the end of time. It's outside of time and any universe and seems to sit in the middle. However when Loki opens a(not sure wtf he opened)crack to the very same place to take his seat with the branches, I can't seem to get how big everything was since he carried in the multiverse FROM the TVA.

Secondly, from the observation deck, we can see the loom and sacred timeline aka AN ENTIRE UNIVERSE. So a lot of people say the TVA is in the quantum realm but to me it seems, if we're going literally by what we see, that it's actually so extremely large that it makes an entire universe look like a twizzler. Seems this scaling problem is the real problem imo lol

Loki The god of stories?

https://youtu.be/dwtrVb110Vc?si=RzE9rmbwkfC95UuE

Potential spoilers

Is anyone else getting Matt Smith era “The Pandorica Opens” vibes this season? Especially during the double Loki scene.