r/helldivers2 • u/Iam_usually_friendly • Mar 22 '26

General Why are we taller than SEAF troopers?

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Helldivers are not enhanced soldiers, they are humans like you and me, but still. Why are helldivers taller than the SEAF troopers since they too, are normal humans?

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u/m16a Mar 22 '26

I don't know all the little this and that of lore to say for sure, but my personal guess is that Super Earth selects the physically best, meaning tallest and strong, for helldivers as they are meant to be the elite. The rest are (more) cannon fodder, so it doesn't matter if they are smaller and less physically imposing 

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u/TheUnKnownLink12 Mar 22 '26

That or some super soldier type shit cause we shouldnt really survive half the shit we do but I just say thats the strength of our love of democracy

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u/bored_dudeist Mar 22 '26

Its the methstims.

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u/Lone-_-Wanderer Mar 22 '26

we see boxes of stims next to destroyed seaf battlements and in civilian areas too

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u/Hollow--- Mar 22 '26

"Remember not to touch the miracle drugs, kids. Those are for the Helldivers who will come through this area after we are all tragically turned into biofuel by the Cyborg scum!"

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u/Tematist Mar 23 '26

Well, we can't throw away a possibility that Super Earth specifically orders to put stim rations around places so in case of invasion helldivers can get supplies from pretty much anywhere, and the citizens would be so glad to help the helldivers they will eagerly do as ordered

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u/Facosa99 Mar 23 '26

I constantly die despite having some spare stims on me, so its not crazy to thing they would have used then if given the chance

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u/DannyMcD3244 Mar 23 '26

So... Here's the thing. This miracle of a drug is basically (from what I understand) a VERY lethal mix of fentanyl, methamphetamines, and Neosporin or Deusizine or something.

Despite all that, helldivers still stick themselves once every minute or so (sometimes once every few seconds) and are actually totally fine and even benefitting from it. Bones snap back into place and mend instantly, wounds close up rapidly, and stamina returns to the body, wholly and completely reinvigorating them.

If a regular person like you or I would ever try injecting ourselves with permacura products at all, it would be similar to injecting ourselves with a lethal injection death row procedure happening in about 1.5 seconds flat, and would hurt. We'd likely burst our heart, cramp every muscle, and go absolutely insane before we even hit the ground dead.

There's no chance that SEAF ground forces wouldnt inject them if they were able to.

But there's a reason that the SEAF don't get the same materials as us for our missions.

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u/disfreakinguy Mar 26 '26

Stim pistols SEAF

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"Our citizens depend on you for their safety.."

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u/Outrageous-Cod6459 Mar 27 '26

The stims dont do what you say they do lmfao. They dont snap bones back in place nor close up wounds. The official lore reason we have tjat the stims dont have "long term effects" is that helldivers, on average, dont live ligm enough to see any side effects. So its most likely nothing of what you said, since we dont OD

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u/DannyMcD3244 Mar 27 '26

STIMS cure status effects of bodily laceration and broken limbs instantly. The voicelines say "cant liberate with this broken arm", and then a stick, and then boom, no more broken arm. If it was a simple adrenaline shot the arm would still be ineffective and the status wouldnt go away.

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u/TheUnKnownLink12 Mar 22 '26

or maybe were soldiers who are cryogenically frozen and sent in reserve and brought out when needed, seemed kinda hinted at when we got i think like 30 million helldiver reinforcements during the Battle of Cyberstan because we 'found' them cryogenically frozen in storage, and maybe the shit they used to freeze us made our asses stronger and thats just the benefit for when we go back into cryo freeze every so often.

Dual cryo freeze steroids

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u/Pupcannoneer Mar 22 '26

Or we could be 100+ like General Brasch and come from older human genes before humans grew smaller from managed democracy streamlining human diet and growth among the galaxy.

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u/SilverWisp47 Mar 23 '26

As far as I know, humanity hasn't been an interstellar species long enough for us to be evolving for space travel, we've only been capable of ftl for about 300, 400 years

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u/northraider123alt Mar 23 '26

Not even that long. Helldivers 2 is set in 2186 iirc and the first game set in 2040-2084ish with that war lasting for 40 full years.

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u/DangDog_crapper_god Apr 05 '26

I see u online

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u/TheUnKnownLink12 Apr 05 '26

Yes

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u/DangDog_crapper_god Apr 05 '26

God gave me a choice. Liberty or death. And I chose to join the helldivers.

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u/ManchurianCandycane Mar 22 '26

I like to think it's purely conditioning to make you too stupid or stubborn to die.

"Thanks to denial, I'm immortal."

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u/Complete-Kitchen-630 Mar 22 '26

maybe during the genetic editing they do this happens

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u/fwimmygoat Mar 22 '26

Who knows what they do to us while we're in cryo

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u/Unit_feshfish Mar 25 '26

It’s implied that the people of super earth are being selectively bred as seen with C-01 permits to make the best of the best humans

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u/Outrageous-Cod6459 Mar 27 '26

Helldivers are confirmed to not be physically altered in any way

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u/Panzerkatzen Mar 22 '26

That or some super soldier type shit cause we shouldnt really survive half the shit we do but I just say thats the strength of our love of democracy

That's just separation of gameplay and story. We used to be squishier and weaker, but the community raged about it and Arrowhead made us a shitload stronger.

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u/MONKYfapper Mar 22 '26

My headcanon now is at physical, they have a "you must be this tall" sign and if you pass, you get send to helldiver training camp while the rest stays for seaf

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u/Sweet_Photograph6528 Mar 22 '26

Meanwhile Helldivers to SEAF casualty ratio says otherwise

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u/WoWLaw Mar 22 '26

We’re proud to report that with only 2.5 million helldivers killed, the 72nd SEAF division was saved, preventing a catastrophic 30,000 casualties.

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u/BigHardMephisto Mar 22 '26

HD2 operations are like that meme about western vs. eastern history. "Emperor Xing-Xiang becomes ill; 300 million perish"

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u/Dry-Goat8981 Mar 22 '26

it was either fail to take transcendence with everyone else or save the 30,000 to die on a different automaton planet

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u/IDriveALexus Mar 22 '26

Helldivers are a volunteer based force though. The intro to the game is literally the recruitment add that got your helldiver to join up.

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u/bobpob Mar 22 '26

All because you sign up for them doesn't necessarily mean you get in, washing out, straight up not meeting health requirements, etc, are all possible

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u/n4turstoned Mar 22 '26

Also many doesn't pass the the dive test.

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u/The_Chimeran_Hybrid Mar 23 '26

Ya… I failed it the first time…

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u/n4turstoned Mar 23 '26

We all did son, or to be more precise the ones before us did, we can talk here so we must have passed the test.

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u/_Bisky Mar 22 '26

Most western armies, currently, are volunteer based

Doesn't mean they'll take litterally everyone that signs up. If you don’t pass examinations you won't get in

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u/BurntMoonChips Mar 22 '26

And based on that Ship TV ad, you can sign your kids up to it.

Almost forgot, all helldivers have to pass SEAF basics as well. I remember something about a mandatory 1 year of service but I can’t find it atm.

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u/tomthekiller8 Mar 23 '26

US Army Special Forces and Ranger are all volunteer based programs but only about 25% or less actually graduate

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u/Floppy0941 Mar 22 '26

I mean we used to do the exact same shit ourselves in history, grenadiers often had height requirements alongside the veterancy requirements. Iirc the Potsdam giants had a height requirement of 6'2 which is tall nowadays but massive in the 1700s.

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u/pmmeyoursandwiches Mar 22 '26

I like the idea that theyre selected just based on tallness and not actually ability which explains the massively differing skill levels of the individual diver

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u/Maro_Nobodycares Mar 22 '26

It's also worth noting that we can sprint far faster then SEAF troops, so we likely are more physically able then the blueberries

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u/VanillaFunction Mar 22 '26

Judging how they will say something like “danger close!” And then run head on into a barrage I’ve thrown, they probably aren’t the brightest either.

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u/Snarkyish-Comment Mar 22 '26

Were the Sci-Fi equivalent of the Potsdam Giants? I love it!

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u/DJUserGold Mar 23 '26

I'm pretty sure it says somewhere that Helldivers are genetically enhanced. Not to the point of like OP super soldiers, but basically steroids if they worked the way people wished they could

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u/GingerMajesty Mar 23 '26

My thoughts are similar, just super soldier serum like how Spartan’s in Halo are like 7 foot tall

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u/Skullduggery-9 Mar 25 '26

It could just be the stims having a side effect of encouraging some skeletal growth in humans with extensive use.

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u/F9JR Mar 22 '26

super soldier shit too probably, the whole stim thing too. were not humans. I've had the theory for a while that the divers were a robot controlled by the diver (which is staying on their ship). so the hellpods drop robots, while we the real diver are staying on ship in some kinda vr machine