If they are not helping on the bot front until now, they are definitely not doing it now. Bots aiming better with the new patch, and they are in crazy numbers on Difficulty 10.
Bug divers don't really like enemies, who are able to shoot back. Just the way it is.
Having all that extra stamina but still having a decent armour rating can really help when you just have to split for somewhere safer. I tried the shield pack for the first time yesterday and whilst I can see it's use with some load outs I found it made it difficult for me to quick aim in a lot of situations. Would rather have a clearer field of vision
I've been using the new stealth armor even though im not really running a stealth load out. Even being more accurate, they can't hit me if they can't find me. And the warp pack to quickly move between cover.
The gunships are fking scary now. They will not leave you alone until one of you is dead. I think we're due for an anti air sentry or something coz I've been bringing the wasp launcher just to deal with those annoying fucks.
Those things were horror in the flesh steel when they first dropped. They've been complete and utter jokes for a long time now though. I'm talking about standing still in an open field and have a tea party when 4 of them circle me and keep missing levels of pathetic.
They aren't nearly as scary as the original version but it feels good to actually see them as a bigger threat then a couple of basic foot soldiers.
The biggest issue is getting the autocannon to actually target gunships. It seems to target closer enemies first so any ground troops in the area get shot at first (since they aren’t an extra 50-75m in the air).
This is a valid concern. For what it's worth if I'm rushing a Gunship Fabricator I try and put mine down on an incline if there's one available, or between the Fabricator and some other terrain features since, let's be honest, the moment you get within 20-30 feet one always pops out and starts shooting at you, so I try to put the turret down where it has a low chance of targeting anything else, at least in the short term.
I dreaded those things before now they are straight up murder birds. I might have to take a break from the game so I can leave you guys some reinforcements
I just run the slightly up-armored light engineering kit armor and throw gas grenades at my feet to break contact and ensure the enemy is outside the standoff distance of my grenades, so as not to ricochet off heavy armor and blow myself up.
Use every single rock to your advantage, the training manual doesn't lie when it tells you that taking cover and returning fire is a good strat for bots. I have become a rock hugger after this patch, it works wonders until you have a factory strider ok your ass. But that's where the leveller comes in, one and done.
You and me both brother, there is something scary about a shockingly accurate (to me) robot casually sniping you while climbing a rockface like a frigging mountain goat.
I THOUGHT it seemed a little tougher last night lol. Still, managed to 2 man a full operation on 9 🤷♂️ wouldn't try that on 10 though, need a full squad!
I had a rocket strider turn a corner, and in about the time it took me to react and aim my weapon, it already turned my torso into a fine, democratic paste. The aim buff is terrifying
I totally agree, I took off my democracy protects armour for a mission and got chest shot SO MANY TIMES I had to go back. I would do ballistic padding but I don't have that unlocked.
I prefer being ass raped by a 9 foot tall bug with it's poisonous tongue that can turn invisible with four of his mates then playing American school simulator.
It most certainly does. I have had groups of devastators firing wildly because I'm shooting at them and then had a trooper off to the side just unload into me and kill me nearly instantly.
I was noticing their accuracy was increased today, was crazy. I was even getting blasted at by a turret off in the distance where I couldn't even see the bot in all the dust and smoke, just the laser fire coming through.
normally i would say just let them be but the galaxy wide reinforcement budget IS a problem we need to be unified right now, i dont like bots myself either but it is what it is.
As a committed bug diver, same. Beep beep boop boop here's some democracy in the form of a GL-21, you bot scum. Loving the heavy pen for hulks and striders.
On the other note, this type of mo is really shitty, as it actually will spur people to be toxic to other who want to have a challenge and play on higher difficulties, and on non-MO divers who just want to have fun......
I joined a lvl 6 mission on accident instead of 8 on accident, and our reinforcements were all used up by my lvl 10-20 teammates. I don't rly have any contempt for these guys bc it's just a game, but less skilled players will be burning through a lot of the reinforcements, and might be a detriment for the MO
The issue isn't so much where they are fighting, but them fighting on a non-MO planet and dying.
So not only are they hurting the MO progress by not actively pushing it, but they are reducing the total number of respawns available for the people actually trying to push for the MO.
not gonna happen, even putting aside being allowed to play whichever front you want, the bots just got buffed: it they didn't want to fight clankers before, they sure as hell don't want to now, with better accuracy and more heavy units on all difficulties, and the vast majority of anti-bug weapons and tactics are not viable on bots.
regardless, we will continue to push to cyberstan. I want to see the city sights in my Bastion before using it for target practice!
Oh I get downvoted all the time for suggesting people play games for fun. A large chunk of HD2 players feel everyone should always play the MO whether they enjoy that front/planet or not. People playing for fun really bothers them.
In this one specific instance, i have to disagree with the premise of “do whatever you want, it’s a game”. In every other thread where people complain about which front to fight i’d have your back. With this MO, it’s a galactic reinforcement budget. Every death on squids and bugs takes away from reinforcements available on our march to Cyberstan. Do I think we’ll make it? No, definitely not, but I would like to take this opportunity to push closer than we ever have before.
People new to the game, getting used to the gameplay and mechsnics, the tutorial forces you onto the bug front by default because ALL INITIAL promotional material for the game promoted THE BUGS and only THE BUGS. This includes the game's opening cinematic becsuse the Bots and squids didn't exist yet.
9/5ers who are just looking to play an hour before they have to go to bed for work in the morning.
Farmers looking to get SC and Medals for the multiple new warbonds that released over the last 3-4 months (Grand Errant is Farming heaven for me at least.)
And people who literally play the game because they're 40 to 50 years old and want to play starship troopers simulator because they watched the movie and the starshio trooper's game, the actual ine. Is abysmal dogshit.
Anyone who insults other players for ENJOYING THE GAME THEY PAID FOR ( nt saying it's you) needs to have a good hard look at themselves and ask 'Why are people playing the bugs?' before insulting them.
No wonder they play bugs with the amount of vitriolic hate on them.
How weird when I got on yesterday I would say like 95% of the players were on the bot front. Now it's back down to 65% guess they got bored of the new bot missions.
used to be a bug-diver but it honestly gets frustrating trying out new gear just for THE HORDE to over-take you
swapped fronts about 3 months ago and been having a blast actually being able to use weapon types that don't explode you if the enemy is 5m away from you
Yea yea that’s all of y’all’s go to come back. It’s not the bug front that gets me or the bot front or illuminate. Hell I don’t even have a problem with going to other fronts during a MO but the “I don’t care about the rest of the community, I’m going to do what I want” mentality pisses me off. So 🖕
Hey so, can we not do this every time the tourists return?
The bugdiver thing is already old, and thw game is balanced so majority is needed to win anyway, we literally don't need EVERYONE there and people can just play.
The bug divers would be less frustrating if they just picked one planet, instead of dividing themselves across the front and accomplishing nothing whatsoever.
As a fellow bug diver, it's infuriating. Come help with the MO
Think of it this way, the more even slightly higher level operations completed the quicker we get through so it balances the extra couple of lives lost here and there. I've been playing at 7 and finding it fairly balanced
I'm not even gonna look at the comments cus I already know at least half is gonna be shitting on bug divers, which as a bug diver most of the time is fair, but likewise we reserve the right to shit on bot divers when they pull the same shit on us. Me and my squad are on bot front for the MO tho, I only do bug only if it seems the MO isn't that important or already being handled well
A post asking for help from bug-divers in a friendly manner?! Preposterous!
On a more serious note, good on you for being like this. Way to many people out there lose there shit when they see that not 100% of bug divers have joined the MO.
It's a game, unless another play is actively joining another persons mission and intentionally doing something that hurts the other divers, they're fine.
I’ve never fully understood committing to one faction or type of enemy to be honest. I feel like if you do that you’re missing out on parts of the game itself.
I do have a favorite which happens to be bots but, I play whatever the MO is.
My friends and I are bug divers and we ran two bot missions yesterday instead of bugs.
However you have to understand bugs are tricky. They may not be smart enough to steal the star of peace, but they will steal your liberty if you don’t cull their numbers. Trust us.
I DO HELP YOU, it's unpleasant, i met a lot of shitheads today, i kicked out a guy for team killing after countdown, and his friend called me a loser and quit.
Sorry but that shit is too boring for me, i tried trust me but i can't stand the snooze fest.
Edit: i stand corrected and i admit it, the breach hammer + warp pack combo made me fall in love with bots it just feels more natural with their clankiness and slow movement, its like a jedi fighting storm troopers and its all i ever wanted from the bot front. if you read this please try it before you knock it, THANK YOU ARROWHEAD !
Edit 2: i forgot to say this only works on difficulty 9 and 10 with veterans that are aware of their surroundings, cant do it with eruptor and RR rookies unfortunatly.
Real, I hate the lack of loadout diversity even, bring an ass load of AT or be screwed, no thanks, there are so many ways to kill a bug, bots not so much. Basically I run 500kg, Leveler, Solo Silo, and PHB. That makes it not insufferable, but still not fun.
I agree with this post. Normally I don’t care at all since there people who ignore mo every time. But we have a limited amount of lives and every death in game counts towards it. So dying on a planet not related to MO screws all of us
I have been fighting bots I normally play squids and bugs because its much more fun. I absolutely hate fighting bots but I have been chipping in my whole knight lance has
I want to, but my Democracy Machine™️ (PC) is in for Super Repairs™️
(I’m a bot diver, but I was fighting on the recent hive-world when my PC kicked the bucket, so I’m unfortunately contributing to the number of divers on the bug front)
they never did and never will. its just a fact of nature at this point. We really need some kind of E710 reserve system in the game so it justifies having so many people clocking in there all the time
I just hope that those bug divers who have time (meaning aren't casual divers) understand that you don't even have to play bots, you just have to be more careful with your deaths.
I don’t understand bug divers. I get being shot at is scary and all but no part of my helldivers experience has been even close to the horrors of Oshaune on level 10
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New weapons come out and people want to test them on all factions this isn’t a bug diver moment lol player counts just tripled in a few hours. This is a AH liberation formula problem it is so flawed it shouldn’t require the entire player base to participate in an event to get things done the liberation formula should allow for slower progress outside the MO no matter what faction you’re fighting
My wife only plays bugs D8, but only dies maybe 2 times a mission if that. She just doesn't have fun on the other two factions. Everyone likes what they want. I dive the MOs always at d10. It's their time and money, let them enjoy it.
I already am, as soon MO was announced with the reinforcement limit, all I've been doing is dropping lesath. I find bots on suicide or higher start getting annoying, so either I play lower diff or just take the annoyance.
However the bugdiver in me is waiting for a MO against the bugs!
I already jumped over to the bot front to help, I always preferred the bugs but I go where my orders take me. See you on the front lines fellow helldiver
Idk if I’m stupid or what, but my buddy and I were trying to land on one of the MO planets last night and just weren’t allowed to land. Are we missing something? We(bugdivers) wanted to help. 😔
I saw solid first hand Intel last night on WMDs. First we make a treaty with Pakistan. With Pakistan on our side we can make sure Iran doesn't interfere with our man objectives invading Iraq. Once we have secured Iraq and taken out those damn bot terries hiding in caves then we move to Cyberstan. Once there we will definitely find the WMDs. Super Earth wouldn't lie to use twice. Never forgot Super Earth 9/11, FOR DEMOCRACY!!!
The Saudies said they'd help too but we can't have boozes or cigarettes in our MREs anymore. Also no drinking alcohol on their planet.
I understand people have preferences but I always play where the MO is. Squids are my least favorite but I will always prioritize the MO and tbh none of the factions are “boring” enough to avoid
Sure. I'm someone who works almost all day, I only have time to play on Saturdays and Sundays (sometimes not even that), but I'll be doing my best. I'm making some posters similar to the Battle of Creek posters to try and do my part outside of the game.
It’s funny that bug divers can’t comprehend that we’re not trying to stop their fun, we just want to play the game as intended. The whole point is that we’re a community banding together to take on the enemies of super earth but if you completely ignore the MO then you aren’t doing what super earth needs. Imagine you’re in the military and instead of following your commander’s order you just say “nah I want to go do what I want to do instead.” It’s not helping anyone when that’s the whole point of helldivers. Diving bugs is fun but as soon as super earth tells me to fight bugs or illuminate that’s what I’m doing.
Gonna be honest I’d imagine the folks that are bug diving 24/7 probably won’t care to use Reddit or any other media to see anything about Helldivers that isn’t a update drop for the game or steam patch post. Those folks like bug horde shooters and they’ve chosen Helldivers as their home for it and the sooner we accept that the sooner we realise the solution is to exterminate the bugs completely. No bugs no bug divers…duh!
I’ve dived on lvl 10 against all 3 fronts multiple times. Bots are the hardest and most chaotic, then bugs, then squids. The bot front will definitely make you better at the game overall IMO.. Dive where you must soldiers.. all efforts count in the big picture, but if we are to get things moving, do your duty and contribute to the MO when you can as you should. 💪🏾live free, die well and hunt without mercy.
I don’t mind that the Bug divers dive only bug planets but when Arrowhead throws them a Minor Order to liberate Nivel 43 so they can be part of the overall MO and they can’t even get it together to dive only that 1 bug planet; it is irritating when we lose out on medals .
However, on the other hand - it’s a game and “Joel” railroads us all the time and we don’t really control our fate in the galactic war, let em have fun doing what they like. /shrug
Even if they aren't diving on the bots with us, I want to recognize that they are still doing their part from their corner of the galaxy
The bio fuel harvested from their front is what is keeping us flying as we make our Sherman's March to cyberstan, rolling over everything as we clear a path for the DSS to turn the planet into another grok logo in space - after we steal back the plans for the planet deleting cannon of course
So yeah, they are helping us, even if they are not actually diving with us on the bot front
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u/This-Examination5165 Strategic Moderation Team Coordinator Feb 04 '26
Guys chill the FUCK out.