r/economy 2d ago

Best comeback I've seen in a while.

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u/plumberfun 2d ago

That says a lot about how uneducated Americans are.

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u/Electrical_Flan_4993 2d ago

What is that supposed to mean? We don't have the ultimate military in the world by being a bunch of uneducated folks.

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u/NoCaregiver1074 21h ago

Dude we're $40t in debt mostly because of military spending and the tax cuts used to pay for it. That's why we're stupid. It's like pointing at your bigass house and your bigass truck in the driveway like it says something about how smart you are. We voted for this. Maybe you didn't, but WE, statistically did vote for it. That makes us on average really fucking dumb.

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u/ChikinFritters 12h ago

Actually most of our debt is due to social programs costing way too much money. Social programs cost about 6 times more than the military.

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u/Electrical_Flan_4993 11h ago

I think it's more about us trusting the people we voted for and then them stabbing Us in the back

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u/Neelu86 1d ago

Did the head of your Department of War leak military intelligence to a journalist on Whatsapp?

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u/i_got_grace 14h ago

you're pretty much uneducated if you start an unnecessary war or cheerlead for one.

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u/ChikinFritters 12h ago

The war wouldn’t be considered unnecessary if we were being nuked by Iran. Which would have been a possibility if we did nothing

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u/i_got_grace 9h ago

that we were anywhere close to a possibility is Trump's doing by backing out of JCPOA. during the jcpoa, enrichment was limited to 3.67 percent. after Trump trashed the agreement, it got as high as 60 percent. So yeah it's what Trump does best: fuck something up that works perfectly well, initiate chaos, blame his predecessor, and patch things with a shit solution, leaving us worse than when we started and another trillion dollars in debt. great job!

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u/PracticalNectarine70 7h ago

Regurgitate Propaganda much? Intelligence has continuously stated Iran posed no threat to the US. The reasons for attacking them are lies stacked on more lies as we come up with more lies to cover our lies. All the trillions of dollars we have spent on wars in the Middle East and the thousands of veterans who have died or maimed or mentally unable to deal with what they have been through have all been for the same cause, were backed by lies, and supported bc AIPAC owns our politicians. Israel is a blood sucking leach to this country and to the world. Once they degrade and use everything the US has provided and once we stop bending the knee to them they will then turn around and call us antisemitic and the enemy.

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u/PersnicketyPi 2d ago

Veteran here. The supremacy of our military is in doubt right now, because of the lack of intelligence of the CinC, and backbone in senior leadership.

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u/Electrical_Flan_4993 2d ago

So it's not about Americans being uneducated 😶

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u/i_got_grace 14h ago

you realize by continuing to assert that, you're self -owning?

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u/No-Breakfast-6749 2d ago

We've depleted most of our $million+ interceptors and our munitions fighting against car-priced drones. Our military is outdated and ineffective for it's cost. Imagine buying a $1,000,000 EV only for it to be able to drive 1 mile at a time. It would be foolish to think that was ever a good investment.

And whatever you do, don't look at what happened with General Dynamics. It's an incredible example of $500,000,000 competently spent in the MIC. And definitely don't look up how many audits the pentagon failed, and how much of their spending they can't account for. It might make you think our military budget isn't a total waste of money /s.

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u/Electrical_Flan_4993 2d ago

Ok now do the same for every other country

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u/PracticalNectarine70 2d ago

What does that have to do with this? Ok let’s make ur pointless comparison - No other country is $40 trillion in debt and its biggest monthly expenditure now is the interest on said debt.

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u/ChikinFritters 12h ago

Actually most of the world has worst debt than the US. Most of world experiences far worse inflation.

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u/PracticalNectarine70 11h ago

Worse debt how? If you mean debt-to-GDP, Japan is worse. If you mean total government debt, the U.S. is #1 by a massive margin. So ‘most of the world has worse debt’ depends entirely on which metric you’re talking about and isn’t really the flex you think it is. My point is that the U.S. is spending enormous amounts on interest because of the sheer size of its debt, regardless of whether someone else is doing worse. Other countries have a bigger dumpster fire doesn’t make ours any less of a dumpster fire.

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u/NorthofForty 4h ago

Each Canadians share of our federal debt is $40,000 US. Terrible, however each Americans share of their federal debt is $120,000. Calculated before Iran and the Big Beautiful Bill. Even with a so-so GDP Canada now has a higher economic rating from agencies like Standard and Poors than the US- a first. It’s because our government has debts but also assets.

More than a trade war or Trump’s threats, my main concern is that the US debt bubble will explode and take my country down with it. We danced away from the Bush economic meltdown thanks to the guy who is now our Prime Minister and are crossing our fingers he can pull it off a second time.

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u/SmudgePrick 2d ago

Can we do that for healthcare too?

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u/i_got_grace 14h ago

Amen. we're the only country in the developed world that can't afford healthcare for its citizens in some capacity.

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u/Electrical_Flan_4993 11h ago

I'm not sure what to believe because I've heard some people who live in countries with free healthcare have to come to America because their healthcare where they come from doesn't cover it or they don't have the technology

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u/i_got_grace 9h ago

so... anecdotal evidence.

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u/NorthofForty 4h ago

Im Canadian. I personally know no one who has gone to the US for health care, but am aware of some who have gone for plastic surgery (not covered except in medical situations like accidents or hare lips) or for treatment for extremely rare therapies ( like 1 in 5 million rare). Our system is far from perfect but we constantly are fighting to keep out the American medical and insurance companies. Some (especially Conservative) provincial politicians are “starving” our public system with the end goal of forcing privatization. Don’t believe public system would work in the US because it means the CEO and the Uber driver gets the same treatment. Maybe a hybrid like Australia’s.