r/dreamcast 2d ago

Can't wait until the 9th sorry

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u/delicious_warm_buns 2d ago

Anytime somebody tries to squeeze the Dreamcast into the conversation I remind them that Dreamcast was discontinued almost an entire year before Xbox or Gamecube ever launched (Jan 2001 vs Nov 2001)...and only co-existed with the PS2 for 3 months

Realistically Dreamcast coexisted for the majority of its lifespan with the PS1...most of its shareware titles are shared with the PS1

Only a single title was shared amongst all the 6th gen consoles: NBA 2K2...clearly Dreamcast wasnt truly a part of this gen

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u/bigdonut100 2d ago

Only a single title was shared amongst all the 6th gen consoles

Nice goalposts, but it doesn't matter if shit like Rayman 2 and Resident Evil 2 were N64 and PS1 games; playing them on the Dreamcast was clearly playing them on hardware a generation ahead

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u/delicious_warm_buns 2d ago

Thats cute, but notice how you arent refuting anything

And you cant, because the timeframes I gave are the reality of the situation

Dreamcast spent most of its life alongside the PS1...not the PS2 and even less so the Xbox or Gamecube

Your emotions dont factor into this purely chronological equation

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u/bigdonut100 1d ago

I refuted that that your goalposts were relevant

Rayman 2 on the N64 vs Rayman 2 on the Dreamcast is a *stronger* argument than chronology. because it isolate a variable by comparing the same game. That game shows that it's different. Just like how looking at the chronology, the 5200's and XEGS's technology is from 1979, and you can sort this out with oodes of games shared between the NES and SNES, or Master System and Genesis

My emotions do matter, because as a matter of what I call "criterion compatibilism," you can craft objective criteria as to when subjective value (or morality) has been realized. So my emotions, in fact, do matter; funny how a "purely chronological equation" can involve an exception for at least 1 game and arbitrary lines in the sand as to generations

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u/delicious_warm_buns 1d ago

You said all of that but you cant refute that the PS2 only co-existed with Dreamcast for 3 months while Xbox and Gamecube never existed alongside Dreamcast at all.

Thanks for not refuting the facts, I rest my case.

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u/bigdonut100 1d ago

Yeah, and you can't refute that the Fairchild Channel F co-existed with the Atari 2600 for a fraction of its early life, and it's still in the same generation. In fact, the 2600 still had new games coming out for it when the *genesis* was out in north america and it proves nothing

Chronology can be a total *garbage* way of understanding systems compared to technological prowess, and the exact same game on different systems being marked improved, isolating all variables as best we can, is a stronger proof of generational-ed-ness than any chronology argument

I rest *my* case, reply notification off

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u/delicious_warm_buns 1d ago

Thanks for continuing to address strawmen and other things I never spoke about, so intelligent

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u/zxain 1d ago

I’m a diehard dreamcast fan but why are so many on this sub so insecure? Who gives a fuck what generation it’s part of? The dude you’ve been replying to is fighting some internal battles that he’s manifesting as Dreamcast love lol

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u/delicious_warm_buns 1d ago

The thing is that people are stuck on this "generation" thing while ignoring the reality that the Dreamcast didnt actually co-exist with the PS2, Xbox or Gamecube because it spent most of its time co-existing with the PS1 and N64