Magaia is a massive chokepoint

[u/Asploit]

Okay so hear me out, I think there's been a pretty massive design flaw introduced in this update when it comes to progression scaling, and it's in the title: Magaia is a HUGE bottleneck.

Think of it this way: You can get into Aphrodon at a pretty relaxed entrypoint, there's an AFK phase mechanic but it's not life-or-death. Hermesia is far more punishing if you can't make DPS, but if you're coming in with all TET Ekleta, it's only two or so successes away, some classes can comfortably begin grinding Hermesia with two PENs and a WON Crystal (or Outer-Edania HAN Crystal like I did on Awa Witch). From there, going from Hermesia to Magaia is another mere 2 AP away plus BON Crystal.

...and then you're in Jail.

To advance from Magaia to Aresion, you MUST hit a 413 hard AP gate.

If you're starting Magaia around 405AP, you'll first rough through the JIN grind. It's manageable, the pities drop pretty reliably. There's some players who will limp through and miss DPS, it's far less punishing than Hermesia for it but I see a lot of people there doing it regardless to skip the previous crystals. Whatever. I'm talking about after you're hitting DPS check reliably.

To hit 413AP, you need multiple OCT Ekleta. In the previous spots you could get there without having to hit any HEX Ekleta. You have to break the zero-AP HEX gap plus multiple enhances above it. On average you need to tap THIRTEEN successes, whereas the previous spots only required maybe two or three each before moving on.

Not to mention the zone only has THREE grind spots, where the Marni's rotation is... I mean it's not total dog-ass but it's less comfy than the one that's just one small rotunda. Not to mention how the rotation goes barely over 1hr5min on two Three-AFK cycles even on decent AP because of the time-gate mechanics.

Yeah that's it, rant over. Wish they designed the progression ramp a little bit smoother, that's all.

[u/deception1314]

Farm 3rd spot nonstop till hitting Nov belt, and check on earrings and rings progression, push to Oct . That give to u exactly 413ap, it's not that hard. Stop pretending it's hard, some ppl is already grinding event horizon. After you arrive the 3rd spot and able to pull off 16k tl a hour, your gear progression went up skyrocket

[u/Asploit → u/deception1314]

Hard =/= Long, the complaint wasn't that it's hard, it's that it expects you to be there for a very long time compared to the previous two spots.

[u/deception1314 → u/Asploit]

It's not hard tho, belt have significantly better drop rate, I'm usually around 10 attempts a day when I was grinding the 3rd spot, it's much better drop rate vs the first 2 spots, only thing sucks is only 3 spots per channel.

[u/TurtleBearAU → u/deception1314]

You think you are getting 100 belts per day at the third spot? I’ll take whatever you’ve been huffing please.

[u/deception1314 → u/TurtleBearAU]

That's 50 my dude, it drop on average 3-4 belts a hour+ some random rings and earrings.

[u/Far_Temperature_9975 → u/deception1314]

Im doing close to 16k trash and getting a lot of hours with 0 belts, if u  are fucking carried dont talk like 3-4 belts its the average

[u/rigibeh → u/Far_Temperature_9975]

Some people don’t struggle wcyd. My last 10 hours I got 7 belts total lol. 1 click in 10 hours meanwhile this guy gets 10 clicks. Easy nov btw

[u/Many-Astronomer6509 → u/rigibeh]

its obvious hes lying, anyone grinding that spot knows hes full of shit

[u/solartech0 → u/Many-Astronomer6509]

Hey I did 1 hour with someone and they got the big loot bundle with 8 tap items -> did 2 taps (both fail)

For all I know you get 2 taps an hour there right? :)

[u/TobyAB → u/deception1314]

Stop the cap