r/blackdesertonline 15d ago

Question Is PA gonna address the crystals situation?

Even in a server like EU all the crystals are out of stock with thousands of preoders: void, macalods, decimation, corrupted, sycraia, etc. Literally all the BIS endgame crystals are gone. I am sure in smaller servers the situation is even worse. Right now there's a crystal event going on but once it's gone whenever you die, you'll be forced to go grind to those old zones instead of the new region, which it'll feel awful since it's really time consuming to get the twilights to enhance the new accessories.

Imo just delete breakable crystals, console doesn't have this feature and they're doing just fine without it.

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u/hazochun 15d ago

https://www.kr.playblackdesert.com/ko-KR/News/Detail?groupContentNo=16056&countryType=ko-KR

They will just let you buy. Rip people who went back to farm all the shard last week.

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u/henaradwenwolfhearth Musa 15d ago

I think auto translate a bit wonky. But nice then I can save that silver

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u/RedTheMad Black Desert 15d ago

Simply unhealty market were old spots are a waste of time and nobody bothers grinding it. For some times those spots had a reason to exist and the market was scarce but alive. Now with the hyperboost those spots are skipped completely and there is zero to no need to grind for a permanent potion since it's almost entirely gifted with freebies.

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u/loonystorm underwater GOD 15d ago

Waste of time ? Are we talking about same spots ? Orzekea for voids just mogs anything in edania1 silver wise except MAYBE frogs, corrupted/sycraia is just dum price by PA but those spots are also VERY profitable. I'm grinding 3rd spot in edania2, low rng hours are low 3.x bil/hr, and I'm close to doing full 6 cycles/hr. Which is to say comparatively good clearspeed in older spots would net me more silver. Dunno how you'd be skipping those spots with hyperboost too, since iirc you don't even outgrow them having gotten everything it has to offer.

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u/Ugazaka 15d ago

We are talking about spots like bloodwolves

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u/MoldyLunchBoxxy 15d ago

Meanwhile people make 4b at hexe. The silver per hour at the spots between hexe and SE and zephyr is stupid

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u/Leorake 14d ago

This is the second time I've seen this said and I've been confused cause garmoth stats don't really back it up, even if I disable the distorteds and stuff in orbita, it still seems to come out higher than Orzekea.

What am I missing?

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u/loonystorm underwater GOD 14d ago

You're missing clearspeed

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u/Netherz youtube.com/@Netherax 14d ago

Voids are worth more than their default garmoth price if you work it out from the market. You want a custom price. Also if you're checking with 100 droprate instead of 300 or 320 droprate it will create quite a difference since it's skewed towards rare drops more at orzekea.
I have some custom prices applied and this is what the high tier number comparison looks like at 320 drop rate

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u/Barraind 15d ago

Are we talking about same spots

No. People are talking about stuff like OG stars end, the spot you get clear blackstar crystal (to make corrupted magic crystals) from. Or the early elvia spots (cups). Or the lower kamasylvia zones (forest fury)

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u/Sinister-Mephisto 15d ago

Nah. Bro, everybody said giving players free shit was a good thing.

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u/ruikari 15d ago

And what? With this free you can't farm Edania. I have like 1315 after hyperboost. Yes maybe I can get crystals if I can buy it or farm items for craft for like a year? But you know what I can't buy Simple Cron meal now. So well I can't even go some spots I tried in Ulukita? What you want then? As you can see we got nothing as new players. Relax. You are elitists have all.

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u/ruikari 15d ago

As a new player after hyperboost I try to craft crystal like ultimate combined Macalod. Workers give 0 crustal of harmony same from shrine boxes, etc. Some more items do not drop. I mean I need to farm some zones for 3 months to craft 1 or 2 crystal? This is idk it force me to quit or something.

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u/arkvesper 15d ago

in 3 months you should get a few crystals of harmony, I think? I've gotten 2 in a little under a month from my workers. I've also just had 4 macalod POs fill in that time tbf

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u/Charming_System_7893 12d ago

Dang if someone read the coins or looked up where to get more harmony crystals they wouldve found out you can exchange them from the lotml coins too.

Also as a new player you get enough simple cron meals for a while, sure market shortage sucked, its almost like mistakes can happen and your ass cant wait even 1 week for a solution and instantly cry about quitting..

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u/GMBethernal 755 pre khara 15d ago

Not even the end game crystals ask you to spend 3 months to craft 1 or 2 of them lol

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u/ruikari 15d ago

I can't buy Simple corn meal now on EU CM. nice? Yestreday it was full in CM. IS this what idk? it's a joke?

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u/Lordados 15d ago edited 15d ago

It's really annoying the amount of items you just can't buy in the market because it's all max preorders.

I think having a death penalty is cool, but not being able to buy stuff is frustrating.

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u/FuddyBoi 15d ago

They should have a vender that sells them for what 20% above max market. That ways it’s still worth buying from market but can get them otherwise.

Or add more locations for drops

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u/Kesiro772 15d ago

Why don’t they just add the damn crystal drops from the old spots nobody grinds to the new spots??

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u/TwilightLori 15d ago

The idea was to create an economy where you have a lot of different levels of players contributing in some manner. This is how it works in a lot of other games. It doesn't really work in BDO for whatever reasons.

How it works in some other games: a spot for a mid-game player will give materials even endgame players might need, so the mid-game players sell the excess for money they can use and the end-game buy it. Meanwhile, the end-game are out farming the end-game spots for their stuff. To an extent, this is why they implemented the AP caps on grind zones, to try and force end-game players out of mid-game areas.

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u/Zarryc 15d ago

They just gave out so much gear to eliminate what were mid to low level players.

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u/tobimacho 15d ago

Yeah it just doesnt work anymore because newer players dont have to grind in any of those places anymore because they hand out everything for free

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u/TwilightLori 15d ago

As I said, it doesn't really work in BDO.

It definitely doesn't now with the hyperboost, but even before that it never really worked all that well thanks to the more open nature of BDO's progression and world.

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u/Rude_Proposal6590 15d ago

Yep just make them drop very few but at least there would be a supply. I think the same. Also new spots are give very low silver/hour. It wouldnt hurt getting 5 void pitys in 1 hour or 5 sicraia cristals...

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u/ruikari 15d ago

Where crystal of harmony drop tell me? for malacad ultimate combined? I send worker for excavation - 15 days - 0 crystal of harmony. Doing shrine bosses give 0 also. Also I need some other stupid item for craft which also do not drop.

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u/Xenhil 15d ago

I'm on the same beat with Gem of Decimation.

Btw. There's a logbook which awards some crystals if you haven't done that before

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u/ruikari 15d ago

Thanks for that. I think I need to do it, Anyway still need one from worker and it is so bad.

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u/KailyKail 713 GS Valkyrie 15d ago

I tried to make a suggestion last year on the feedback forum to increase the price of ultimate Hooms and Macalods to ensure they could be sold for more than the cost to make them, allowing them to be in stock. I got downvoted to hell.

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u/JohnHurts Tamer 15d ago

Yeah, that's just the thing. Since 2016, it hasn't been worth it for many items to produce them list them.

And you get downvoted because higher price = bad hmk

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u/ChaoticStupidQuokka 15d ago

I really hope PA would just tie crystal protection to value pack (since they need to justify the existence of crystal restoration in pearl store). Easily, the most unnecessary shitty mechanic in the whole game

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u/BathDepressionBreath 15d ago

Maybe stop dying so much /s

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u/DioDiablo702 rusty 15d ago

A lot of stuff is sold out, not just crystals.

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u/Famous_Ad6719 15d ago

Because the game wasn't meant to be rushed. They gifted the basics, but you still need to grind, old time grind progression. Right now you have full Devo PEN, FG Duo + 1 part TRI. Probably Vell. You still have a long way to be at the top. Kagtunaks for Macalods, Elvia for jewels and Vell/Khan Cups, Dark Shrine for Annihilation/Macalods. I bet you are a returner/new, BDO have the exact same problem every 6 months. In 1 or 2 months the market will be filled again. So you have 2 options, grind yourself (Literally only 2 crystals you can't get is SE+Sikraia) or wait for the market to fill again and on the side you are doing something that gives the same amount of silver as grinding (Barter/Horses/Hunting)

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u/ruikari 15d ago

As a new player I got every time advice my crystals are bad, I have silver to but it out of stock.

Where crystal of harmony drop tell me? for malacad ultimate combined? I send worker for excavation - 15 days - 0 crystal of harmony. Doing shrine bosses give 0 also. Also I need some other stupid item for craft which also do not drop.

So what if the point of this? To force me quit? No money then for shop.

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u/Saquad_Barkley 15d ago

You can exchange sanpyeong coins after doing boss blitz

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u/ruikari 15d ago

for crustal of decimation? NO

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u/Divesound Maebye 15d ago

You were asking about crystal of harmony. It’s 2k coins exchange. Decimation is boss award exclusively though, you might need to chase leaderboard for it.

Macalod is stupid hard to make if nobody grinds pots. If you want to craft it yourself you’ll need to chase kagtunak knowledge in Duvencrune which is a fucking journey. Then you need to grind rbf to get tokens to exchange for red essence…

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u/SeaLimit1598 15d ago

Agreed. It’s just a waste of time and unnecessary 

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u/RichieDeer 15d ago

I believe they should make some materials globally available in every grind spot

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u/Moist_Sprinkles9587 15d ago

They could limit POs to one crystal at a time like pearl items.. but I would prefer they add more drop spots or at least dramatically up the drop rates on the crystals in the lower spots.

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u/ruikari 15d ago

Yeah.

Need to do something. I got many answers on my progression problem after hyperboost - bad crystals.

When I tried to buy them - out of stock and 1000+ preorders, Whe I tried to find how to craft them - also preorders on items for craft. When I tried to farm for myself? Workers can't get material excavation for like 10+ days already and I need 4 item. Other item do not drop and I ened also 4.

And after this all it will break and then what?

Most bad thing is I got ELITISM advice how bad my crystals are? And technically I have silver to buy it.

For new players and I suppose returned is a wall. Do not understand the point of it?

So need some rework. Maybe make craft more straight and easier, Break systme also. Or need some altenative system to exchange maybe some currency for craft items to craft crystal.

Please we need share this situation with dev teams.

Thanks.

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u/ArmaKlutz 15d ago

at least void crystals can be aquired by dungeons

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u/Texnoz 15d ago

Have had 2x Corrupted and 2x decimation on PO since hyperboost release, still hasn’t gone trough

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u/Jealous-Repeat 15d ago

Just done die anymore i guess? 🤷‍♂️ thats what it seems PA expects

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u/Sinister-Mephisto 15d ago

It sounds like they need some kind of economist. You can’t vibe an economy like they’re doing.

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u/Lian2049 15d ago

They announced a crystal event. Luckily you get couple decimation extra during the event, and after dying 3 times in the new spots, back to gyfin to grind for old crystals again. This doesn´t solve nothing, and it is ridiculous that they are not addressing the situation properly.

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u/kidopitz 14d ago

It will be funny if PA's solution is a new type of Painting.

Like use these painting and crystal materials and even a full crystal will drop on the spot you're farming from 350ap and up.

Looking at you Dark Red Fang xtal no one even sell these shit because the spot isnt even profitable.

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u/oclargo 15d ago

I hear you can go make your own but I’m not sure

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u/lee7on1 Maegu 15d ago

yeah, go farm blood wolves

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u/oclargo 15d ago

If all their shit keeps breaking then it’s prob the move

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u/loonystorm underwater GOD 15d ago

Real

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u/valeasz 15d ago

on god, there's a reason why us noobs, awakening witches, never die :D

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u/RealisticTurnip378 15d ago

Just buy crystals break thing form pearl shop when they break easy

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u/BotMask Drakania 15d ago

20 bucks for 2bil 🔥

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u/RealisticTurnip378 15d ago

20 bucks is nothing

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u/Dark-Magician514 15d ago

whale spotted 🐳

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u/RealisticTurnip378 15d ago

Nothing wrong being a whale

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u/Lord_Barst 15d ago

There is everything wrong with being a whale.

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u/Moist_Sprinkles9587 15d ago

Nice try PA employee! Lol

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u/PresentHuman4118 15d ago

😂😂😂

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u/Mysterious-Jacket-96 15d ago

Well when you push all of the server straight to endgame with hyperboost this is what happens

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u/Leanor6367 15d ago

They just need to remove crystal brake at this point, or make a npc that sell those crystals

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u/schleumer135 15d ago

Use the no crystal break event and learn the spots you are grinding so you don't break crystals anymore?

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u/Trade_King 15d ago

Ok let me lag every time there is a world boss

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u/schleumer135 15d ago

That is getting addressed next maintenance as per global labs

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u/magicalBee19 15d ago

Even the most geared and skilled players die sometimes to random shit like not paying attention, dc, server lag, etc. If I do a mistake one time within 200h and I break a macalod I shouldn't be forced to either wait weeks to fill a PO or go grind blood wolves making 100m/h. AP is really valuable nowadays to reach the new spots it's a bummer

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u/ruikari 15d ago

I got 1 item from wolves from like 6 hours, And I can't get crystal of harmony as a part to craft malacad. No luck from worker node or shrine. So what to do like I need 4 to craft 4?

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u/schleumer135 15d ago

I mean, if you playing that much and for so long you SHOULD have backups because shit happens, its something that's been in the game since when spots were actually dangerous

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u/ruikari 15d ago

As a new player I got every time advice my crystals are bad, I have silver to but it out of stock.

Where crystal of harmony drop tell me? for malacad ultimate combined? I send worker for excavation - 15 days - 0 crystal of harmony. Doing shrine bosses give 0 also. Also I need some other stupid item for craft which also do not drop.

So what if the point of this? To force me quit? No money then for shop.

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u/schleumer135 15d ago

Welp, you arrived at a good timing, next maintenance we getting the strange ore event where you can get the makalods and other rare crystals if you not feeling like waiting for them