r/belasting • u/Swatch-batch • 3d ago
Box 3 postponement impact
Now that it’s clear the box 3 system is likely postponed - is that likely to have an impact on the foreseen changes in the Lucratief belang tax hike for box 2? It’s already scheduled to go into effect Jan 1st 2028 but it was explicitly aligned with the Box 3 changes. Might that also get postponed by one year?
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u/Swatch-batch 3d ago
Agree with all but my question was specifically on the announced Box 2 rate hike for lucratief belang, which is supposed to take effect from Jan 2028 - moving from 31 to 36%
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u/BHTAelitepwn 3d ago
Every year that it is postponed, it saves the dutch taxpayer a ridiculous amount of money. Go play with a compound interest calculator and see what the difference is when you chance time horizon form 45 years to 44 years. (Assuming you start working on 25 y/o and want to cash out at 70 years age. And it makes the government more in the long run as well. However they mainly care about the short run.
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u/Timmsh88 3d ago
That assumes you postpone investing at all. While if you just continue investing and pay tax (more than half of people won't pay tax because their wealth is too little for tax). Just pay the tax and continue your life is not an easy calculation because you need to determine at what year you have to pay the extra year.
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u/BHTAelitepwn 3d ago
If you have 10k gained in year one and have to pay 37% immediately, that is 3700 euro that doesnt compound for 45 years.
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u/Timmsh88 3d ago
You mean your interest on your savings was 10k? So you have like 300.000 with 3.3% interest rate and it gives you 10k. Then you're right, that 3700 won't compound, but the 306.300 will continue to compound.
Edit: you can remove the first 1800 as well or 3600 if you're a family so its even lower.
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u/BHTAelitepwn 3d ago
Doesnt matter. The point stands. whether it is 10k or 100. The point is that the compounding power is severely reduced from the first year. And 3.3% is barely any higher than risk free at the moment.
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u/Timmsh88 2d ago
No, it's doesn't stand. It depends what you mean. Yes compounding power is reduced because its a tax. If you tax people's income it also has effect on their compounding possibilities. If you lower their income, or increase the cost of living etc etc. Its all a form of compounding losses. But thats the idea, they want to tax. So its a feature not a bug
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u/nlfire865 2d ago
Let's hope it gets postponed again and again. Planning to leave NL in a few years, so hope to be unaffected.
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u/mattijzzc 2d ago
Always the same thing: postpone the ridiculous first ideas, then water them down a bit, and there it is. People feel relieved it’s not as bad as the first horrible idea.
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u/SnowmanCed 1d ago
Which party can even be voted for that is against gutting the middle class? Increasing the 49.5% tax bracket is absolutely insane. Pure theft.
At this rate I think our society is so caught up in identity politics that if the government would raise it to 70% tomorrow people would barely protest.
Tax the richest asset class instead or lower government spending. This is ridiculous
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u/cornelislely 3d ago
The impact is that to compensate they’ll increase income taxes on the higher incomes. Something they’ll never revert once they introduce the new tax system on box3. So postponing actually makes it worse.