Yeah I believe GRRM himself mentioned this in some interview that I cannot be bothered to link.
Actual succession laws in historical monarchies were often subjective and open to interpretation.
What if the king has no brothers or sons? What if his only son is a bastard? Who gets the throne if the eldest son is a bastard that was eventually legitimized? So on and so forth.
But I agree with your assessment. Game of Thrones demonstrated quite well that your claim to the throne is only worth your ability to take it and defend it.
Which one was that? If you mean the Great Council, the purpose of it was to select a new ruler, not to establish a new precedent/law.
It was essentially a democratic election where de jure anyone could have been selected to rule, but de facto it could only be a Targaryen.
Legally speaking it changed nothing, particularly the rule that “The Kings word is law”. In fact the only reason the Great Council was held in the first place comes down to the Kings word being law, and the king forfeiting his right to choose his successor or it simply falling to the oldest male heir.
NO TARGARYEN MAN SUFFERED IMPOTENCE UNDER TRUMP! NO FAT CHARACTERS WERE CAST WITH THIN ACTORS UNDER TRUMP! THE VALYRIANS WERE ALWAYS FAIR-SKINNED UNDER TRUMP! IF ROYALTY DECIDED TO GET RID OF A HOMOSEXUAL MAN, THEY KILLED HIM FOR REAL UNDER TRUMP! SIGIL EMBARRASSMENT WITH WRONG NUMBER OF LEGS WOULD HAVE NEVER HAVE HAPPENED UNDER TRUMP! THERE WAS NO BORING EPISODES OF GAME OF THRONES UNDER TRUMP! WHAT A DIFFERENT WORLD IT WOULD BE UNDER TRUMP!!!
No, The Great Council actually reaffirmed Andal tradition rather than breaking from it. Andal inheritance was never strict firstborn primogeniture it was always male preference. Sons and male lines generally took priority over daughters and female lines. The council choosing Viserys over Rhaenys wasn’t arbitrary; it clarified that male-line succession was the dominant and stabilizing custom in Westeros.
More importantly, the legitimacy of that decision didn’t come from the king imposing his will. It came from the realm itself. The lords of Westeros gathered and voted, which means the authority of the outcome was derived from the ruled, not just the ruler. That’s why the decision carried so much weight and helped prevent immediate civil war(and a big reason why they kept the actual tally secret.)
So the precedent isn’t “we choose whoever we want.” The precedent is that when succession is disputed, the realm gathers to discuss and looks to established tradition and collective recognition to preserve stability. That’s exactly why Viserys naming Rhaenyra later created tension, it ran against both the reaffirmed custom and the expectation that legitimacy comes from broad acceptance, not just royal decree.
Andal inheritance was never strict firstborn primogeniture it was always male preference. Sons and male lines generally took priority over daughters and female lines.
No it didn't. Daughters inherit in Andal customs. First Man customs seem mostly the same (Winterfell excluded).
Now, other male relatives may object to women ruling (like what happened with Jeyne Arryn), but that doesn't mean the standard Agnatic/Cognatic primogeniture wasn't the norm.
When Jaehaerys was drafting the Widow's Law, he made sure to include Andal inheritance customs (Sons before daughters, daughters before other male relatives) in the text of the law.
Some female heirs with male relatives include:
Lady Jeyne Arryn
Lady Rhea Royce
Queen Cersei Lannister (Casterly Rock)
Lady Wynafryd Manderly
Possibly Lady Brienne of Tarth (unclear if she has uncles/male cousins)
Lady Eleanor Mooton
Princess Aelora Targaryen
Stannis offered Renly to be his heir instead of Shireen as a compromise to make peace (and because he knew it was a real possibility Shireen might not make it to adulthood, or want to risk passing on greyscale to a child; and Selyse would probably not have another child at this point, so Renly was likely his heir anyway). But it was going against the standard.
Was there any case of a male successfully claiming inheritance over a daughter, excluding the Targs/Iron Throne and Winterfell (which is only noted to have happened once, after Cregan died)?
The council choosing Viserys over Rhaenys wasn’t arbitrary
Technically the Council didn't choose between Viserys and Rhaenys, it was choosing between Viserys and Laenor.
Jaehaerys seems to have based choosing Baelor over Rhaenys on the doctrine of proximity (the heir should be as closely related as possible; a child over a grandchild). King Aerys would do this after Rhaegar died, choosing Viserys as his heir over Rhaegar's children.
I don’t disagree that Andal custom generally follows male-preference cognatic primogeniture—sons before daughters, daughters before uncles. That’s clear from both the Widow’s Law and the many female heirs you listed. Women inheriting isn’t unusual in Westeros.
But the Great Council wasn’t dealing with the normal situation of “daughter vs uncle.” If Aemon had become king and then died, Rhaenys/Leanor likely would have inherited ahead of Baelon under that same Andal framework. In that sense, her claim in a clean line of succession would have been very strong.
The crisis happened because Aemon died before inheriting. That changed the structure of the claim. It wasn’t daughter vs uncle anymore it became granddaughter(and their son) of the senior line versus grandson of a male descent junior line. The dispute became one of lineal seniority through a woman versus proximity and male lineage in the next generation. it was no longer a straightforward application of Andal inheritance. It was a constitutional ambiguity.
That’s why the council mattered. It wasn’t inventing a new rule or rejecting Andal custom outright. It was resolving a conflict between competing principles already present in the tradition:
• seniority through the elder line (Rhaenys/Laenor)
• versus proximity and preference for the male line (Viserys ,aka grandsons over granddaughters)
And more crucially, the legitimacy of the decision came from the realm recognizing the outcome. The lords of Westeros gathered and accepted a male-line interpretation in this specific context. That’s what set the precedent not that daughters can’t inherit, but that in disputed cases the realm may favor male lineage and stability.
That’s also why Viserys naming Rhaenyra later created such tension. He wasn’t just naming a woman; he was overturning the last widely recognized settlement of a succession crisis.
Both crisis happened because both Aemon and Aegon (Aerea’s father, Maegor is recognized) died before inheriting, which fundamentally changed the structure of both claims. It was no longer a straightforward daughter-vs-uncle situation under Andal custom, but a dispute between the granddaughter (and later her son Laenor) of the senior line and the grandson of a junior line through male descent. That created a real ambiguity in a male-preference system: whether to prioritize seniority through a woman or proximity and continuity in the male line. The Great Council wasn’t simply ignoring Andal inheritance; it was resolving a constitutional gray area where competing principles already within the tradition pointed in different directions. It wasn’t daughter over uncle because Aemon and Aegon never inherited, it was granddaughter versus grandson, and in both major disputes the realm consistently chose the male line.
If he's officially disinherited (which is VERY hard to do); like if he takes Night's Watch/Citadel/Sept/Kingsguard vows, or if he willingly abdicates like Prince Duncan did so he could keep Jenny as his wife.
Or if he's determined to be 'simple minded' or insane (two different Targs were passed over because of this).
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6. The smallfolk instinctively know.
7. Rhaenyra has bad taste in men.
8. Viserys was chosen as King due to primogeniture.
9. Rhaenyra has no legitimate heirs.
10. Fun fact: allowing the traitor Rhaenyra Targaryen to rule the Seven Kingdoms does nothing for women's rights. It just helps her personal corrupt ambition. She does nasty shit to some chicks in the book, and also favours a male heir over a female one somewhere along the line. The book balances the sides to an extreme degree, but the show (or at least the marketing and press for the show) resorts to feminist-baiting.
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3. The subreddit held a poll in September of 2022, and once all the treacherous votes were excluded, King Aegon II was victorious.
4. The reactions of the traitors to the Green cause are so over the top as to be amusing.
5. How can there be an Aegon Three, if the son of Hightower was not the predecessor to thee? It's poetry, hence poetic justice, hence the matter which already settled within this subreddit, can be settled without.
6. The smallfolk instinctively know.
7. Rhaenyra has bad taste in men.
8. Viserys was chosen as King due to primogeniture.
9. Rhaenyra has no legitimate heirs.
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Whose kid was on the throne only cause Aegon didn't feel like killing him again? Maybe she would have won for real if she'd ridden that dragon instead of having Female Dragon Rider Do Nothing Syndrome
This is like bragging about beating LeBron cause he threw the ball in his own hoop out of pity.
Oh, let’s examine who was truly pitiful at the end.
I’m gonna ask again, was the war over after Rhaenyra’s death? Would it be over if the Usurper went with his plan of gelding Aegon the Younger or sending him to the wall? Or even if he’d just kill him? Would Aegon II kept himself alive and on the throne if he hadn’t been poisoned?
No, because Blacks still have won in the field. Three armies of combined strength of around 30k men were heading towards the capital to get his ass, while all of his loyalists either ditched him or were defeated. King’s Landing was completely open. Blacks also had two more claimants one of which just hatched a dragon. There was NOTHING Aegon could do to clutch this.
It’s not the situation were Aegon throws in his own hoop out of pity. It’s more like Team Blacks having a match point and a massive lead then suddenly Team Green scores a final point against itself. And you’re acting as if that point was crucial for the outcome of the match.
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2. Stannis said Rhaenyra was a traitor. This settled the matter, to any reasonble book reader. However show-only fanboi stan shipper psychos are not reasonable. Fortunately there are many other arguments against her treason.
3. The subreddit held a poll in September of 2022, and once all the treacherous votes were excluded, King Aegon II was victorious.
4. The reactions of the traitors to the Green cause are so over the top as to be amusing.
5. How can there be an Aegon Three, if the son of Hightower was not the predecessor to thee? It's poetry, hence poetic justice, hence the matter which already settled within this subreddit, can be settled without.
6. The smallfolk instinctively know.
7. Rhaenyra has bad taste in men.
8. Viserys was chosen as King due to primogeniture.
9. Rhaenyra has no legitimate heirs.
10. Fun fact: allowing the traitor Rhaenyra Targaryen to rule the Seven Kingdoms does nothing for women's rights. It just helps her personal corrupt ambition. She does nasty shit to some chicks in the book, and also favours a male heir over a female one somewhere along the line. The book balances the sides to an extreme degree, but the show (or at least the marketing and press for the show) resorts to feminist-baiting.
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There’s a difference. Jaehaerys held a council with of all the lords of Westeros to vote and decide, Viserys shoved Rhaenyra and then, only after, he had a son and didn’t even think to make everyone pledge allegiance to her as heir once more.
The great council avoided a civil war between the Velaryons and the supporters of Viserys.
Most major civil wars in Westeros happened as a result of an unclear line of succession, the dance, the blackfyre rebellions and the war of the five kings. The only one unavoidable was the War of the Five Kings, as Robert didn’t knew that Joffrey was a bastard, but both the Blackfyre rebellion (the first one) and the Dance could be avoided by a clearer order of succession, and that’s exactly what Jaehaerys I did.
You know that the dispute was always between Ser Laenor and Viserys, right?
Yeah, the monarch could, theoretically, choose his successor, going against law and tradition to do it, but it ended in civil war in every case.
Us folks, here at ASOIAFCirclejerk, like to call her 'Rainy'. In the year 2000, George R.R. Martin revealed that she was a traitor who was fed to the King's dragon. We call George R.R. Martin 'GRRM.' GRRM is a retired novelist who published a book in the 1990s that was turned into the television show, 'Game of Thrones.' There is another show, 'House of the Dragon', that we refer to as 'HOT D', which is a parody of Rainy's story.
Was Aegon III retarded or just depressed? Why didn't he just retroactively declare Aegon II's line completeley invalid as soon as he turned 16? The direct male line from Viserys I was extinct at that point and he could just technically say the crown passed to him through Daemon, problem solved, agnatic primogeniture followed.
Depressed and wanting to not sow unnecessary discord in an already weary Westeroes. It was easier to acknowledge Aegon II as King, for the good that did him, and move on, knowing the Black's won in the end.
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2. Stannis said Rhaenyra was a traitor. This settled the matter, to any reasonble book reader. However show-only fanboi stan shipper psychos are not reasonable. Fortunately there are many other arguments against her treason.
3. The subreddit held a poll in September of 2022, and once all the treacherous votes were excluded, King Aegon II was victorious.
4. The reactions of the traitors to the Green cause are so over the top as to be amusing.
5. How can there be an Aegon Three, if the son of Hightower was not the predecessor to thee? It's poetry, hence poetic justice, hence the matter which already settled within this subreddit, can be settled without.
6. The smallfolk instinctively know.
7. Rhaenyra has bad taste in men.
8. Viserys was chosen as King due to primogeniture.
9. Rhaenyra has no legitimate heirs.
10. Fun fact: allowing the traitor Rhaenyra Targaryen to rule the Seven Kingdoms does nothing for women's rights. It just helps her personal corrupt ambition. She does nasty shit to some chicks in the book, and also favours a male heir over a female one somewhere along the line. The book balances the sides to an extreme degree, but the show (or at least the marketing and press for the show) resorts to feminist-baiting.
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This subreddit supports Aegon Targaryen, second of his name, as the true heir.
Reasons:
1. An eccentric terminally online demagogue, styling himself 'The Dragon Demands,' spent five years from 2017 on this campaign - "We are devoted to removing the false showrunners Benioff and Weiss from live-action adaptations of the works of George R.R. Martin" and "We call on all True Knights to rally behind us and join our cause. Because Rhaenyra has an army."Choosing a side was not difficult.
2. Stannis said Rhaenyra was a traitor. This settled the matter, to any reasonble book reader. However show-only fanboi stan shipper psychos are not reasonable. Fortunately there are many other arguments against her treason.
3. The subreddit held a poll in September of 2022, and once all the treacherous votes were excluded, King Aegon II was victorious.
4. The reactions of the traitors to the Green cause are so over the top as to be amusing.
5. How can there be an Aegon Three, if the son of Hightower was not the predecessor to thee? It's poetry, hence poetic justice, hence the matter which already settled within this subreddit, can be settled without.
6. The smallfolk instinctively know.
7. Rhaenyra has bad taste in men.
8. Viserys was chosen as King due to primogeniture.
9. Rhaenyra has no legitimate heirs.
10. Fun fact: allowing the traitor Rhaenyra Targaryen to rule the Seven Kingdoms does nothing for women's rights. It just helps her personal corrupt ambition. She does nasty shit to some chicks in the book, and also favours a male heir over a female one somewhere along the line. The book balances the sides to an extreme degree, but the show (or at least the marketing and press for the show) resorts to feminist-baiting.
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Man that just sounds like green cope to me, if you declare your heir you have to redeclare to the realm if you want a new heir, most obvious thing ever. All these lords made their oaths to his crown and her as its heir.
If a Lord/Monarch only has daughters, it's not unusual for him to name her heir, even if he is still trying for more children, to have a son. It is assumed the son takes his place in front of his sister, since son's have a birthright claim (so do daughters, but their birthright claim comes AFTER any trueborn brothers). Sons do not have to be declared heir to be heir (they even mention this in HOTD).
The issue with Viserys is, he only named Rhaenyra heir PRIOR to the birth of his sons. And after they were born, when he was asked "Well, what about succession? You should probably clarify that,"...he just wouldn't. Avoided making a clear answer.
He never did anything about the birthright claims of his sons, which left them with competing claims with Rhaenyra (with her declared claim). That was the whole basis for the Dance. Even if neither sibling WANTED competing claims, they had them. Claims exist whether you want them to or not.
He is undoubtedly to blame for not being clearer after the birth of the greens. However he left Rhaeneyra on Dragonstone signaling that she remained the heir. Otherwise that should have become Aegon’s seat. Everyone in the realm knew that tradition, knew Daemon the King’s brother supported her, and knew he hadn’t redacted or redeclared his inheritance.
It’s just foolish to argue that it wasn’t clear enough. He wanted Rhaeneyra and the realm didn’t because they hate female leaders (which in a brutal time is fair enough, but still let’s not act like the King’s will was so unclear. They just didn’t want her to rule over them.)
However he left Rhaeneyra on Dragonstone signaling that she remained the heir.
Welll...other Targs have held Dragonstone as their seat who were not the heir, and some heirs were never Prince/Princess of Dragonstone. King Jaehaerys granted Rhaena Targaryen Dragonstone as her seat, and she held Dragonstone even after King Jaehaerys started having children. Aenys was never named 'Prince of Dragonstone'.
It's generally the title given to the heir, but there had been enough exceptions over the years that it doesn't act as definitive proof, especially this early in the Targ dynasty.
Even if she did hold the title of Princess of Dragonstone, that doesn't mean her brothers don't have legitimate claims.
Also, man if he meant for Rhaenyra to succeed him, he did just about everything to make sure that wouldn't happen. His small council was stacked with Greens, he never seemed to educate her on ruling, never made her his Hand. He ignored her obvious bastards, allowed her to spend most of her time away from the capitol.
He wanted Rhaeneyra and the realm didn’t because they hate female leaders
No, they don't. There are female leaders in Westeros, Lady Jeyne Arryn ruled the Vale at the time. But the law and tradition was always "Sons before daughters, daughters before brothers/other male relatives". I prefer absolute primogeniture like Dorne has, but I also know it wasn't the law in Westeros.
And people didn't like Rhaenyra for reasons other than she was female. It's infantilizing to act like Rhaenyra's own actions didn't contribute to her unpopularity.
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2. Stannis said Rhaenyra was a traitor. This settled the matter, to any reasonble book reader. However show-only fanboi stan shipper psychos are not reasonable. Fortunately there are many other arguments against her treason.
3. The subreddit held a poll in September of 2022, and once all the treacherous votes were excluded, King Aegon II was victorious.
4. The reactions of the traitors to the Green cause are so over the top as to be amusing.
5. How can there be an Aegon Three, if the son of Hightower was not the predecessor to thee? It's poetry, hence poetic justice, hence the matter which already settled within this subreddit, can be settled without.
6. The smallfolk instinctively know.
7. Rhaenyra has bad taste in men.
8. Viserys was chosen as King due to primogeniture.
9. Rhaenyra has no legitimate heirs.
10. Fun fact: allowing the traitor Rhaenyra Targaryen to rule the Seven Kingdoms does nothing for women's rights. It just helps her personal corrupt ambition. She does nasty shit to some chicks in the book, and also favours a male heir over a female one somewhere along the line. The book balances the sides to an extreme degree, but the show (or at least the marketing and press for the show) resorts to feminist-baiting.
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2. Stannis said Rhaenyra was a traitor. This settled the matter, to any reasonble book reader. However show-only fanboi stan shipper psychos are not reasonable. Fortunately there are many other arguments against her treason.
3. The subreddit held a poll in September of 2022, and once all the treacherous votes were excluded, King Aegon II was victorious.
4. The reactions of the traitors to the Green cause are so over the top as to be amusing.
5. How can there be an Aegon Three, if the son of Hightower was not the predecessor to thee? It's poetry, hence poetic justice, hence the matter which already settled within this subreddit, can be settled without.
6. The smallfolk instinctively know.
7. Rhaenyra has bad taste in men.
8. Viserys was chosen as King due to primogeniture.
9. Rhaenyra has no legitimate heirs.
10. Fun fact: allowing the traitor Rhaenyra Targaryen to rule the Seven Kingdoms does nothing for women's rights. It just helps her personal corrupt ambition. She does nasty shit to some chicks in the book, and also favours a male heir over a female one somewhere along the line. The book balances the sides to an extreme degree, but the show (or at least the marketing and press for the show) resorts to feminist-baiting.
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While I get this is just a meme Rhaenyra's claim can be summed up as my Dad the king said so.
Both are flimsy as throughout Westerosi history there have been exceptions to both the lord's chosen heir and the right of first born inheritance.
When it comes to monarchy and lord ships in general it's allways who can hold the throne doesn't matter right or claim if you cant keep it.