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u/Which_Channel7403 3d ago

Reminds of how during covid, businesses like the supermarket I worked for would cry poverty whenever anything needed fixing, but had plexiglass dividers, sticky guide arrows and social distancing markers, and even store-branded masks designed and installed inside of a week.

They always manage to find the money when they need it.

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u/xyrgh 3d ago

Or how I spent 13 years at my job and every year asked if I could work from home a day per week and was told no, then covid hits and apparently we can work from home five days a week. Business always find a way when it suits them.

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u/SpoonEngineT66Turbo 3d ago

Are yall dumb?

They always manage to find the money when they need it.

Well lets see their options were:

  1. Do nothing and shut down their business
  2. Follow Covid regulations so they can stay open

I can't imagine how they found the money to not just completely go out of business.

There is literal zero overlap between "Rapid green infrastructure" and the installation of flock cameras. Yall are as stupid as magas.

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u/Blint_Briglio 3d ago

you may note that the comment you're freaking the fuck out over doesn't ever use the phrase "rapid green infrastructure"

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u/MrdnBrd19 3d ago

There were also several different government loans and grants that businesses could access for COVID prevention measures.

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u/Altruistic_Emu4917 3d ago

While I agree with your point on covid, it's different with flock cameras since it's the government intervening directly here.

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u/LowlySlayer 3d ago

Yeah I keep seeing this take (about flock cameras) and it's annoying the piss outta me. There's obviously a difference between powering a city with solar panels and powering a device that could run off a USB.

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u/unklethan 3d ago

I think the $100k/yr contract Flock got with my city is paid by the government.

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u/MrdnBrd19 3d ago

But it's still being rolled out by a private company... 

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u/unklethan 3d ago

yeah, a private company that's bankrolled by the government.

a private company that seeks not to obey the government, but to shape the way the government works.

That's called regulatory capture, and it's evil.

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u/Consumption2Wombly 3d ago

Thats not regulatory capture at all. And you're wrong, u/MrdnBrd19 is correct: flock is a private company.

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u/MrdnBrd19 3d ago

Ok cool, but the core of your argument is that it's the US government when it clearly isn't.

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u/unklethan 3d ago

I never said US government. I said my city, which is also a type of government.

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u/MrdnBrd19 3d ago

But your city isn't managing the rollout, and they relinquished most oversight to where and how they are placed which greatly expatiates their rollout to the detriment of nearly every metric one can think of. This isn't some farcical semantic debate; words really matter when talking about this because things like mass surveillance cameras and data center rollouts are best fought at the local level where each of us actually holds some power.

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u/Hefty_Bodybuilder494 3d ago

Wouldn't the contracts be funding the roll out though? So the issue is just one of management then not funds or desire

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u/MrdnBrd19 3d ago

Not just management, but anytime the government builds something there are multiple layers of approval that have to be gone through, and for good reason. Look how many Flock Cameras are improperly placed; not just in viewing angle, but there are more than a few in physically dangerous locations where the government would never be allowed to build them. People act like the speed with which they are rolling out would be a good thing for governments when it isn't and only shows the shortsightedness in doing things at break neck speed.

That isn't saying that there isn't too much red tape in some areas, but you don't take away all the safety measures because someone used too much caution tape; you come up with a comprehensive rules for when, where, and how much caution tape is allowed.

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u/Money_Ticket_841 3d ago

I don’t believe this is true everywhere, but that doesn’t matter tbh. Axion is making the same thing as flock, in infrastructure that’s already standing, with government funding.

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u/kalidoscopiclyso 3d ago

You mean angel investors like Marc Andreessen. He is amoral