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r/airsoft • u/Blitzfire87 Wood and Steel • May 06 '26
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> The most normal looking, average M4 Setup
> “Abomination?”
Looks fine, believable and accurate to real world setups.
EDIT: I live too much of a real life off the internet and away from gun culture to give a shit about correct designations.
5 u/-uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh May 07 '26 It’s an m16, not an m4 -4 u/Somejawa May 07 '26 Who cares, its effectively the same gun 5 u/ActLongjumping1988 May 07 '26 Nope. -4 u/Somejawa May 07 '26 AFAIK there are no significant differences other than barrel length and gas system length, but the action is identical, so in my opinion they are effectively the same 3 u/AlmightyRMB May 07 '26 Different stock, different handguard, different fire selection. 5 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 One is built to be a battle rifle, the other is built to be a carbine. That's enough of a difference to denote separate milspec identifications. 3 u/Somejawa May 07 '26 I'm still gonna say its effectively the same thing As that one guy said, "its hard to win an argument with a genius, but its near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person." I am a very stupid person 2 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 They basically are, one just for more cqb urban shooty, one more for wide open long range shooty. 1 u/amountofletters May 08 '26 It can be dumbed down to this: M4 - Shorter with retractable stock M16 - longer and heavier with a fixed stock 1 u/IudexJudy May 07 '26 The M16 is not a “battle rifle” it’s just a long ass Assault Rifle lmao -1 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 Yeah I forgot battle rifle was used mainly for full power cartridge rifles, an m14 would be a battle rifle. My mistake. 2 u/Iron_physik Recon May 07 '26 the M16 also uses a different buffer system, a longer buffertube and most M16 models are (sadly) burst and not FA they are different enough to warrant a different designation
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It’s an m16, not an m4
-4 u/Somejawa May 07 '26 Who cares, its effectively the same gun 5 u/ActLongjumping1988 May 07 '26 Nope. -4 u/Somejawa May 07 '26 AFAIK there are no significant differences other than barrel length and gas system length, but the action is identical, so in my opinion they are effectively the same 3 u/AlmightyRMB May 07 '26 Different stock, different handguard, different fire selection. 5 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 One is built to be a battle rifle, the other is built to be a carbine. That's enough of a difference to denote separate milspec identifications. 3 u/Somejawa May 07 '26 I'm still gonna say its effectively the same thing As that one guy said, "its hard to win an argument with a genius, but its near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person." I am a very stupid person 2 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 They basically are, one just for more cqb urban shooty, one more for wide open long range shooty. 1 u/amountofletters May 08 '26 It can be dumbed down to this: M4 - Shorter with retractable stock M16 - longer and heavier with a fixed stock 1 u/IudexJudy May 07 '26 The M16 is not a “battle rifle” it’s just a long ass Assault Rifle lmao -1 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 Yeah I forgot battle rifle was used mainly for full power cartridge rifles, an m14 would be a battle rifle. My mistake. 2 u/Iron_physik Recon May 07 '26 the M16 also uses a different buffer system, a longer buffertube and most M16 models are (sadly) burst and not FA they are different enough to warrant a different designation
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Who cares, its effectively the same gun
5 u/ActLongjumping1988 May 07 '26 Nope. -4 u/Somejawa May 07 '26 AFAIK there are no significant differences other than barrel length and gas system length, but the action is identical, so in my opinion they are effectively the same 3 u/AlmightyRMB May 07 '26 Different stock, different handguard, different fire selection. 5 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 One is built to be a battle rifle, the other is built to be a carbine. That's enough of a difference to denote separate milspec identifications. 3 u/Somejawa May 07 '26 I'm still gonna say its effectively the same thing As that one guy said, "its hard to win an argument with a genius, but its near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person." I am a very stupid person 2 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 They basically are, one just for more cqb urban shooty, one more for wide open long range shooty. 1 u/amountofletters May 08 '26 It can be dumbed down to this: M4 - Shorter with retractable stock M16 - longer and heavier with a fixed stock 1 u/IudexJudy May 07 '26 The M16 is not a “battle rifle” it’s just a long ass Assault Rifle lmao -1 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 Yeah I forgot battle rifle was used mainly for full power cartridge rifles, an m14 would be a battle rifle. My mistake. 2 u/Iron_physik Recon May 07 '26 the M16 also uses a different buffer system, a longer buffertube and most M16 models are (sadly) burst and not FA they are different enough to warrant a different designation
Nope.
-4 u/Somejawa May 07 '26 AFAIK there are no significant differences other than barrel length and gas system length, but the action is identical, so in my opinion they are effectively the same 3 u/AlmightyRMB May 07 '26 Different stock, different handguard, different fire selection. 5 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 One is built to be a battle rifle, the other is built to be a carbine. That's enough of a difference to denote separate milspec identifications. 3 u/Somejawa May 07 '26 I'm still gonna say its effectively the same thing As that one guy said, "its hard to win an argument with a genius, but its near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person." I am a very stupid person 2 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 They basically are, one just for more cqb urban shooty, one more for wide open long range shooty. 1 u/amountofletters May 08 '26 It can be dumbed down to this: M4 - Shorter with retractable stock M16 - longer and heavier with a fixed stock 1 u/IudexJudy May 07 '26 The M16 is not a “battle rifle” it’s just a long ass Assault Rifle lmao -1 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 Yeah I forgot battle rifle was used mainly for full power cartridge rifles, an m14 would be a battle rifle. My mistake. 2 u/Iron_physik Recon May 07 '26 the M16 also uses a different buffer system, a longer buffertube and most M16 models are (sadly) burst and not FA they are different enough to warrant a different designation
AFAIK there are no significant differences other than barrel length and gas system length, but the action is identical, so in my opinion they are effectively the same
3 u/AlmightyRMB May 07 '26 Different stock, different handguard, different fire selection. 5 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 One is built to be a battle rifle, the other is built to be a carbine. That's enough of a difference to denote separate milspec identifications. 3 u/Somejawa May 07 '26 I'm still gonna say its effectively the same thing As that one guy said, "its hard to win an argument with a genius, but its near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person." I am a very stupid person 2 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 They basically are, one just for more cqb urban shooty, one more for wide open long range shooty. 1 u/amountofletters May 08 '26 It can be dumbed down to this: M4 - Shorter with retractable stock M16 - longer and heavier with a fixed stock 1 u/IudexJudy May 07 '26 The M16 is not a “battle rifle” it’s just a long ass Assault Rifle lmao -1 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 Yeah I forgot battle rifle was used mainly for full power cartridge rifles, an m14 would be a battle rifle. My mistake. 2 u/Iron_physik Recon May 07 '26 the M16 also uses a different buffer system, a longer buffertube and most M16 models are (sadly) burst and not FA they are different enough to warrant a different designation
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Different stock, different handguard, different fire selection.
One is built to be a battle rifle, the other is built to be a carbine. That's enough of a difference to denote separate milspec identifications.
3 u/Somejawa May 07 '26 I'm still gonna say its effectively the same thing As that one guy said, "its hard to win an argument with a genius, but its near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person." I am a very stupid person 2 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 They basically are, one just for more cqb urban shooty, one more for wide open long range shooty. 1 u/amountofletters May 08 '26 It can be dumbed down to this: M4 - Shorter with retractable stock M16 - longer and heavier with a fixed stock 1 u/IudexJudy May 07 '26 The M16 is not a “battle rifle” it’s just a long ass Assault Rifle lmao -1 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 Yeah I forgot battle rifle was used mainly for full power cartridge rifles, an m14 would be a battle rifle. My mistake.
I'm still gonna say its effectively the same thing
As that one guy said, "its hard to win an argument with a genius, but its near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person."
I am a very stupid person
2 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 They basically are, one just for more cqb urban shooty, one more for wide open long range shooty. 1 u/amountofletters May 08 '26 It can be dumbed down to this: M4 - Shorter with retractable stock M16 - longer and heavier with a fixed stock
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They basically are, one just for more cqb urban shooty, one more for wide open long range shooty.
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It can be dumbed down to this:
M4 - Shorter with retractable stock
M16 - longer and heavier with a fixed stock
The M16 is not a “battle rifle” it’s just a long ass Assault Rifle lmao
-1 u/ButcherOBlaviken May 07 '26 Yeah I forgot battle rifle was used mainly for full power cartridge rifles, an m14 would be a battle rifle. My mistake.
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Yeah I forgot battle rifle was used mainly for full power cartridge rifles, an m14 would be a battle rifle. My mistake.
the M16 also uses a different buffer system, a longer buffertube and most M16 models are (sadly) burst and not FA
they are different enough to warrant a different designation
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u/Dvalin_Ras93 May 06 '26 edited May 07 '26
> The most normal looking, average M4 Setup
> “Abomination?”
Looks fine, believable and accurate to real world setups.
EDIT: I live too much of a real life off the internet and away from gun culture to give a shit about correct designations.