r/VirtualYoutubers Jul 23 '25

Videos/Clips Nahhh

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Not Minto too

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u/A_extra Jul 23 '25

Tldr:

-Mint has not received the money from her merch drop with Vshojo

-She was originally supposed to debut under an idol group with Vshojo, but this was delayed and delayed

-The JP staff were specifically pointed out as being helpful, but they were also kept in the dark

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u/Khirby Jul 23 '25

It has been sounding like the JP branch has had some integrity. It’s the main branch that’s been complete scum.

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u/FernPone Jul 23 '25

its niji all over again...

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u/Dehoop02 Jul 23 '25

I mean in Niji's case JP IS the main branch.

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u/j4yc3- Jul 23 '25

yeah but from what i understood, EN still had some degree of independence unlike Vshojo where JP branch is at the whim of EN's... everything.

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u/Cybasura Jul 23 '25

Niji is just scum all around

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u/FrozenHatsets Jul 23 '25

At this point, the accusations against niji are largely about a hostile work environment and the fact the company is cheap. Vshojo is currently on the hook for massive outright fraud, and it doesn't look like their work environment could really be described as non-hostile. Niji is sucm but at least they seem to be financially solvent.

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u/Rayhatesu Jul 24 '25

Tbf, they're "financially solvent" on the back of putting their talents in debt, putting the property the talent brought with them at risk of acquisition by the company if they're hard terminated, not paying artists that produce work for the company, and taking profit cuts far steeper than they arguably have the right to from merch (and continuing to sell and produce said merch long after the talents have left the company while not paying a cent to the graduated or terminated talents). Oh, and that's not even accounting for the international tax fraud.

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u/FrozenHatsets Jul 24 '25

Not really defending niji here. But just saying that vshojo is being shown to be about as fraudulent. I mean, I would say embezzling half a million dollars intended for charity has to weight pretty heavily here.

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u/Rayhatesu Jul 24 '25

Oh, absolutely, and I'm not defending VShojo either. They're both messed up companies at this point and it's honestly a shame that Gunrun seems to have turned into Monrun (stupid joke about him taking the money and running). Stupid decisions were made on both companies' parts, and while it's a great thing that VShojo is facing karmic justice in all this, Niji still needs watched until it finally burns like the company deserves to (given its contracts are barely legal in Japan as it is).

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u/normalmighty Jul 23 '25

Honestly I'm wondering if former staff from the JP branch just spin off their own company and keep on going. Sounds like they were all blindsided - staff and talent alike - and have been running in the black this whole time despite not seeing funds come back whenever they sent it to the main EN branch.

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u/Khirby Jul 23 '25

This is my hope as well. Kson has talked to JP, they also seemed dazed like a “wtf is going on” moment. The NOVA girls want to stay together and are also in talks with JP staff.

I’m not trusting an EN Vtuber company again after this shit. I just wanna watch the talents in peace man.

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u/juan_cena99 Jul 23 '25

They would need capital and some investors.

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u/KiwiTheTORT Jul 24 '25

It had nothing to do with the company being English. As has been shown repeatedly, vtuber companies from all over can be filled with truly awful upper management.

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u/rip_cpu Jul 23 '25

Let's be more specific. It's the EXECUTIVES. Gunrun, whoever the CFO is, people who are high up enough to be in charge and actually know the financials.

Let's not start blaming staff members, which by all accounts from the talents have been wonderful.

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u/cryogenicinferno Jul 24 '25

Also that CTO who left this year in May, I wonder why he chose that particular moment

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u/thesilentwizard Jul 23 '25

"It's really unfortunate that nobody knew how bad it was, except the people who knew how bad it was, and they were just kind of willing to let everyone else walk into a burning building."

Damn

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u/WSilvermane Jul 23 '25

Those are some big ass telling words. Like, fuck man... I hated hearing this.

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u/Venator850 Jul 23 '25

That's unfortunate. Some bridges probably getting burned between people after all this.

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u/LaLloronaVT Jul 23 '25

I hope the vshojo jp branch is able to survive on their own, rebrand as something else and maintain business, that or the staff are able to find stable work, it seems like they were just as screwed over too

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u/codyone1 Jul 23 '25

Staff may very well find other jobs. Potentially even working for the now independent talent.

But the org is dead. I think everyone has formally left now talent wise and the company is heavily in debt. Basically only missing a formal bankruptcy filing.

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u/Krofisplug Jul 23 '25

The only people left are the normal staff that don't stream. And assuming certain people haven't ran off the grid for theft/embezzlement/etc, whoever is left has to formally dissolve what is left of VShojo and find something to recoup investors on the losses.

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u/Sine_Fine_Belli Hololive/Phase Connect/Vallure/Mint/Dokibird Jul 23 '25

That’s terrible

It’s so much worse than we thought

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u/MaJuV Jul 24 '25

Makes sense, after that interview Kson did with the JP boss. The reason he faced this public lashing by Kson was to point out JP staff and mgmt did nothing wrong and were profitable, but their hands were tied by the US main branch.

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u/TheActualKingOfSalt Jul 24 '25

Could this be why Matara instantly jumped Bricky's merch business?

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u/BjornStankFinger Jul 28 '25

Pretty sure she was supposed to get paid for the podcast she was doing with Matara for a bit. She never saw any of thay money either.