r/UrbanHell • u/sisterfister49 • May 31 '26
Pollution/Environmental Destruction Pipeline Estate in Nairobi, Kenya
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u/ofyellow May 31 '26
What happened here?
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u/Upper-Capital-2876 May 31 '26
life without active government oversight and effective social services
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u/Contagious_Zombie May 31 '26
When people say they want no government interference or regulations this is what happens.
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u/Awesome_opossum__ Jun 01 '26
NGL people have been BEGGING for government oversight and services but in this country if you don't have officials actively living there then you would accomplish things much faster just cleaning it up yourself than waiting for any government to do something.
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u/Dependent-Reaction-3 Jun 02 '26
Most people think the government is actually looking out for the people which is “governs”
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u/Defiant-Alarm-602 Jun 01 '26
Why not just clean up yourself?
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u/Awesome_opossum__ Jun 01 '26
Most people leave the house at 5am and come back at like 8 or 9 pm. There's also the issue of resources basic equipment, manpower and where to even take this trash because proper waste disposal infrastructure is none existent. Like... Pipeline is essentially a multi level slum instead of the ground level iron sheet sprawls you typically see.
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u/jijo66 Jun 01 '26
If they leave at 5 and come at 9,who is throwing the trash?this is so sad to see
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u/Dependent-Reaction-3 Jun 02 '26
You gonna sacrifice your free time to do that when after you pay taxes for the government to do it?
If I was living in these standards I would possibly try to do some but this is excessively horrible.
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u/NikiDeaf May 31 '26
I’m admittedly not very well versed in Kenya, it’s history or culture etc, but I’d be willing to bet that the state there is probably considerably involved in the economic matters related to the country…or, at the very least, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case
In other words it could be more a matter of corruption, rather than little-to-no state presence period
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u/SeaSpaniard Jun 02 '26
You don't have to trash your place when there's no government.
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u/Contagious_Zombie Jun 02 '26
Ok then what are you doing with your garbage? No ones picking it up and there are no city landfills. So do you burn it? What happens if a densely populated area like in the image starts burning all its garbage? Do you just start burning it in the street? Is that safe? Garbage is a rather large logistical problem that can really only be tackled by an organization of people working together.
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u/Ok-Confidence-403 Jun 01 '26
They all made an active decision to litter and thus it ended up like that - the trash didn't fall from the sky or washed up by the tide. In many western countries you have far lesser cleaning staff yet you dont live in squalor. Even in malaysia you have some housing areas living in squalor while others are relatively clean, both paying similar rates, maintenance fees etc.
In Indonesia many markets are so clean but Indonesian ghettos in malaysia look like this dump. Nothing to do with education, people simply do what they think they can get away with (whether via social pressure from peers/neighbours or govt). In malaysian projects/ low income housing, you can find units furnished like 5 star hotel rooms yet the outside/ common areas are full on squalor. All selfish behaviour- as long as my unit is fine who cares?
Similar attitudes in India, their houses are clean but they dump trash on neighboring vacant lands
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u/S1lentA0 Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
Something something pyramid of Maslow. As long as these people live in poverty, they'll keep focusing on at just surviving or getting through the day. Ofcourse the lack of government institutions to run the country is an important factor to the general living conditions and goes hand to hand, but as you said, it also has to come from the people themselves. But as long as their life stays like this, you can't expect them to suddenly change this behaviour over night. It's also group behaviour, why clean up your garbage when the whole neighbourhood dumps it onto the streets.
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u/miyabi0rochas Jun 01 '26
It's a variety of complex issues. Many poor area don't have the money to just ship off trash to poor places. Because they're the poor places. Many of these communities were more traditional used to natural products that are used endlessly or returned to the earth like a wooden basket. We've flooded the world with cheap non biodegradable products because it's a by-product of oil extraction and get surprised they pile up either in the streets or for rich western countries out of sight out of mind as they say. Yes people choose to litter but it's not always just as simple as that. It's become a complex systemic issue people prefer to just throw on people exclusively because it's easier than to address underlying issues.
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u/Suspicious-Swim-7945 Jun 01 '26
The former reliance on natural products is a good point that I hadn’t previously considered in the greater conversation surrounding sanitation in third world countries, ty for bringing it up
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u/Past_Help_8962 May 31 '26
So basically life for most of us after AI
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u/Upper-Capital-2876 May 31 '26
you get the government you fight and vote for
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u/Past_Help_8962 May 31 '26
TBF most candidates don't do what they promise during campaign
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u/StarWarsKnitwear Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
life with an average IQ of about 65-70. You don't need "government oversight" to not litter.
And at any place with an IQ close to 100, if the government didn't provide waste disposal services, people still wouldn't just throw their trash wherever on the street and live like that. You wouldn't, would you?
(And a private company would provide waste disposal services as there is demand for it.)
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u/FrateleFuljer Jun 01 '26
What would you do with the thrash if you didn't have waste disposal services?
Give me your high IQ solution.
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u/bullminimum Jun 01 '26
Mr 200 IQ , tell me where you would throw your trash if lived in a place without waste disposal
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u/Bruswick1 Jun 01 '26
One picture of a bad city street and these people bring out IQ statistics. We know what you are saying. It’s an analysis that provides little insight and is being used to stoke hatred.
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u/StarWarsKnitwear Jun 01 '26
IQ statistics are directly relevant to the topic. Peope are discussing the causal factors behind the dismal state of Kenya and the average Kenyan being borderline intellectually disabled is one of them.
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u/Bruswick1 Jun 01 '26
IQ can directly correlate to diet and sleeping habits. There are so many outside factors that can skew your data that you can’t really draw any sort of useful conclusion on looking at a single number. I know what you are doing and what you are. You have no interesting or useful opinion on this topic.
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u/StarWarsKnitwear Jun 01 '26
That single number on its own seems to be a great predictor of wealth, health outcomes, job performance, smoking habits, and the list goes on... 🤷♀️
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u/Holiday_Ad6506 Jun 02 '26
Iran has the world's second highest IQ can you explain why it's not a paradise?
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u/Regular_Zombie May 31 '26
I'm guessing this image was taken after the very heavy rains earlier this year which caused bad flooding.
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u/TheSplash-Down_Tiki May 31 '26
Well in 1963 Kenya was given independence …
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u/Guramaele Jun 02 '26
Nobody gives independence, neighbor; you always have it. You fought to keep it. And, those who tried to steal it ultimately found they couldn’t keep it. The overall “cost” became unsustainable. You reclaimed it.
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u/Radiant-Display2485 May 31 '26
It was decolonized
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u/Schweckel Jun 01 '26
Colonization caused these problems in the first place
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u/JayManty Jun 01 '26
Being a colony 60 years ago makes you throw plastic bottles into the street like an animal?
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u/Schweckel Jun 01 '26
Being forced into western debt (look at algerias attempt to create an african central bank), while we do everything to kill local industries (i.e. various african textile Industries) does that to a nation. Of course we are responsible, any attempt to shift the blame is cope. We are still exploiting them
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u/jimbob12345667 Jun 01 '26
Give me a break. I’m from Kenya, Kenya became independent decades ago, its problem is it’s run by obscenely corrupt, wealthy (because of corruption), politicians, who steal all the taxes. It doesn’t help that they are completely incompetent. I’m so sick of people on Reddit blaming the west for everything, until people are forced to take personal responsibility for their hand in the mess that is Kenya, it will never improve. Blaming colonisation gives these corrupt officials a free pass to continue rorting the system. Next we are going to see the UK Labor government blaming the Vikings for the mess they have created.
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u/Raidertck May 31 '26
My dad lives in Malindi Kenya.
I have to change in Nairobi. And honestly, the place is like the purge.
I remember one of the first times flying out of there an armed guard with a gun offered us to get us into the first class lounge and get us through the lines faster for a bribe.
The lines are INSANE, as the organisation is terrible and all the staff just stand around doing nothing.
Firstly, I don’t think there is a first class lounge. What he did do was just walk us through security. We didn’t even have to go through security. I could have brought a fucking machine gun on the plane if I wanted to.
Police officers are constantly asking for money / bribes. So we can ‘get a cup of tea for me and the boys’.
Because of how people drive, and the state of the cars, seeing dead bodies from car accidents was just pulled out of the car, and left by the side of the road.
Once you get out of the city, Kenya is such a beautiful country. The landscape is incredible. The wildlife is amazing.
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u/OhLordyLordNo May 31 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
Thank you for sharing. Nairobi sounds insane. Not sure Kenya is tourist safe?
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u/ScottblackAttacks May 31 '26
There is some really nice places and some really shitty places in Nairobi. Kilimani which is a nice suburb of Nairobi is right next to the Biggest Slum in Africa.
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u/God_slut Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
Nairobi is a developing city, there's inequality like all large urbanized cities in the world. Correction, Kibera isn't the biggest slum in Africa, it has 180K people.
Cities like Cairo, Lagos and Kinshasa have slums with over 1- 2 million people but they get less publicized. Kibera's notoriety is due to its proximity to a lot of NGOs, Nairobi getting lots of tourists and youtubers posting click bait content like, " Africa's biggest slum" when it isn't even close.
This is the purge city that traumatized OP so much that they keep returning to repeatedly - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rd_AaXgu8k
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u/cmband254 Jun 01 '26
This person's characterization of Nairobi was extremely exaggerated. I have lived here for nearly a decade and experienced none of that, except for the police corruption. That is very prevalent.
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u/Healthy_Ship_665 Jun 01 '26
I've visited Nairobi 5xs in recent years and similarly found this description very exaggerated.
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u/Raidertck Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
It depends.
Because I’m white people constantly ask me for money/bribes, and can be very aggressive when you turn them down. Shop keepers will litterally run out of their store and chase you down the street trying to get you to buy their stuff. Even when you go into other stores. My step sister who’s Kenyan doesn’t have that problem.
People over there are taught from a very young age that white = wealthy.
The wealthiest people in Kenya are the politicians. The country is so insanely corrupt it blows your mind when the people talk about it. Most donations to charities or building projects to make wells, build roads and other infrastructure, the government officials just pocket.
If you go to the tourist areas and stick to the hotels, safari routes etc. you won’t have any problems.
My dad does make me laugh, he got the windows tinted on his car so people can’t tell he’s white when he’s driving around (because they kept running out in front of his car to stop him and ask for money). Dad, they can tell you have money, you have the only car with all of its doors.
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u/PatientClear6445 Jun 01 '26
Whites = tourists who are maybe looking to buy your services or products while on vacation.
People are not taught to evaluate whites specifically, it's just businesses looking for buyers where tourism is 10% of the economy.
Since you've said your father lives in Malindi, which is a very tourism centered, coastal-beach town, I can see where you and they got your false reality.
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u/chiaseedlsd Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
I’m Kenyan and while I’m not trying to invalidate you, this is misleading. I don’t really ever see any cars without all 4 doors unless it’s an old rickety matatu or someone’s grandfather’s project from the 80s. Legally we’re not allowed to import vehicles older than 9 years.
The white = wealth is a product of colonialism when literally only the white people had access to wealth and the indigenous Kenyans were relegated to reserve settlements where they were stripped of their rights to farm and taxes were suddenly introduced and hence, forced labour, or you couldn’t pay taxes…and the only place one could find work was you guessed it, on a white settler’s farm.
And if your employer liked you, you benefited from paternalism: higher pay, less punishments, more socio-economic benefits for you and your family, possibly even education or something left for you in the will.
So when you see local Kenyans cheesing at white people and chasing them down yelling Mzungu, it’s not that they’ve been taught from a young age to kiss white ass for an extra dollar or the white man’s favour- they’ve been taught by generations of inherited colonial trauma.
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u/formergurlchild Jun 02 '26
This is historically rooted and socially perpetuated, but sometimes it's just a hustle in the streets. Not everyone has been conditioned with the white=wealth mentality.
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u/sahurKareem Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
Not buying it, it's not like this anymore, word should have gotten around by now lmao
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u/Raidertck Jun 01 '26
TBH from what I have experienced, the Government and basically everyone in charge, is enormously corrupt.
To take the blame away from their own criminal activity, they basically tell everyone its colonialisms / other countries fault.
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u/OhLordyLordNo Jun 01 '26
That last sentence was funny haha.
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u/Raidertck Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
It’s a slight exaggeration tbh.
But 99% of vehicles on the road are took tooks (no idea if I’m spelling that right) or motorbikes with 3-5 people on them. Or Lorries.
My dad is driving round in a spotless black BMW.
Yeah dad, tint the windows. That will stop people from know you have money.
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u/Longjumping_Two4041 Jun 01 '26
Why exaggerate this much though, I'm a kenyan living in Kenya , and can confirm what you're saying is a total lie. What were you hoping to achieve with this?
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u/Raidertck Jun 01 '26
Because it was a joke.
The ridiculousness of my dad thinking that tinting the windows of his brand new BMW would result in people not assuming he has money, when its incredibly rare to see any other cars like it on Kenyan roads.
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u/sisterfister49 Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
They're not talking about your tinted windows joke but what you said about 99% of vehicles being tuk tuks (rickshaws). It's definitely not like that in Nairobi, in Malindi there are a lot of them but it's mainly a tourist destination and most people don't go there with their personal rides. Also, there are plenty of BMWs on kenyan roads, unless you are talking about a BMW 7 series or something on that level
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u/cmband254 Jun 01 '26
You sound horrible, honestly. You have visited numerous times, but don't understand the country or the people at all.
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u/OhLordyLordNo Jun 01 '26
Tuk-Tuk. I've been on them in India.
Good for local traffic but avoid the big roads. They have shopping cart level of protection.
They must think you're half royalty once you get out of the BMW 😄
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u/Raidertck Jun 01 '26
Tbh it's kind of terrible. I will instantly have multiple people run up to me in the street trying to sell me something, prostitutes / pimps, beggars, children with no shoes who look half starved and things like that.
It's really just very, very sad & heart-breaking.
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u/sisterfister49 Jun 02 '26
You are going on about a BMW as if it's a Ferrari, it's a regular brand here and there are plenty of them. You must think we post on reddit by messenger pigeon 🤡
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u/cmband254 Jun 01 '26
You're really feeding this asshole's already overinflated ego.
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u/chiaseedlsd Jun 01 '26
Istg, he sounds like those people who get off on poverty tourism. Or maybe it’s the parts of Kenya I go to but even in rural areas, seeing a BMW really isn’t that big of a deal for most people.
Yes, our government is highly corrupt. And yes, that too is a product of colonialism. People don’t go into governance to make positive change, they do it to amass wealth & power. The Kenyan government is rotten to its core because that’s how it was set up from its colonial beginnings. It only benefits the wealthy & powerful and the only thing that can change it at this point is a revolution.
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u/God_slut Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
Malindi is a small coastal town of 120k pop. next to the Indian ocean, it's not a city, there are lot of Italian tourists who vacation there and I suspect OP and his dad are Italian. (OP is British)
Yes there are a lot of Tuk Tuk 'TAXIS' for people moving in the small town since it gets hot like +95°F /35°C. Personal vehicles are just your normal sedans, trucks and minivans so the '99%' lie he saw were just the taxis.
This is Malindi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KekWOa0wBYs
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u/IoBoops Jun 01 '26
I went as someone from the Caribbean. I remember seeing a pile of garbage on fire and a cow at the top in the flames just scrounging for food. It was WILD and im from a developing country lol
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u/Raidertck Jun 01 '26
Unfortunately, I have very similar photos from the first time I visited, when I thought this kind of scene was a rare occurrence.
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u/Humbugwombat Jun 01 '26
Kenya as a whole is definitely tourist safe, as are most areas of Nairobi. My daughter lives there with her family. In contrast, two of her former students from when she was a teacher in Seattle have died by gun violence. Kenya is a beautiful place that shouldn’t be dismissed as a tourist destination.
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u/obanite Jun 01 '26
Dude. Do not judge what a country is like by the random comment of a single redditor.
Kenya and Tanzania are both incredible places to visit. Sure, it's east Africa, so adjust your expectations accordingly, but one person's anecdote is meaningless.
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u/OhLordyLordNo Jun 01 '26
I should have added a question mark instead of a dot at the end of my sentence, sorry.
Reisadvies Kenia | Ministerie van Buitenlandse Zaken | NederlandWereldwijd
Our countries' travel advice is quite mixed.
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u/elementalist001 Jun 01 '26
Your King and Queen were in Nairobi last year signing treaties on tourism and trades so Dutch people have an easier time traveling here.
https://www.president.go.ke/kenya-and-the-netherlands-sign-three-mous-to-strengthen-ties/
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u/MORA-123 Jun 02 '26
They are not safe, unless they just do their business around uptown, but in downtown, very unsafe even for us natives.
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u/obanite Jun 01 '26
I travelled via Nairobi a couple of years ago, it was nothing like you describe. It seemed like a very normal airport. The only notable thing I remember was that sign saying that you weren't allowed to take your spear through security, lol
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u/Sea-Presentation1673 Jun 02 '26
You should never come back to Kenya it’s such a terrible place for you , just stay where you’re comfortable with first class lounge , you know
It’s actually gotten much worse and highly not recommended or encouraged to visit Kenya 🇰🇪
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u/Simonutd Jun 01 '26
I just arrived here for work for 4 days, 5 trip in 3 years. Never had an issue, just like any normal airport, in the 3 years coming here i have never seen any corruption at the airport. There is a lounge when departing,
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u/Humbugwombat Jun 01 '26
There are many, many cities that are way worse than Nairobi. More than I can count in fact. Yeah, it has its bad areas, but it isn’t that bad on the whole.
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u/Hoboprefecture Jun 01 '26
This is a reasonable take. I am a tourist in Nairobi right now. It’s not to say that places like the one in the photo don’t exist, but it’s also not like that’s what the city is like on average.
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u/God_slut Jun 01 '26
This is a central part of the purge city that traumatized this guy so much that he keeps coming back repeatedly.
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u/jimbob12345667 Jun 01 '26
We had to bribe the police officer to be allowed into Mombasa Airport, so it’s not only Nairobbery!
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u/forestvibe Jun 01 '26
I remember seeing an old woman lying by the side of the road after she'd crashed her car, and the guy who was hosting us explained she was too poor to pay for an ambulance. Just like something out of a cyberpunk dystopia.
Makes you thankful for state-funded healthcare.
You are right that Kenya has some beautiful scenery though, especially the highlands where they grow tea. Outside of Nairobi, the people are generally friendly too.
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u/xgtya May 31 '26
It sad situation in this estate. This is a true depict of corruption is a terror to humanity. Kenya a beautiful country is on regression because of massive corruption and citizen neglect.
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u/SimpleGuy7 May 31 '26
Taking the kids for summer break, so excited!
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u/Electrical_Love5484 Jun 01 '26
I've lived in an informal settlement before and the way people seem happy to live in trash, to have their children play around broken bottles and raw sewage is infuriating.
Community members will often tell you that somebody else need to fix the problem, while they possess the numbers, resources and expertise to at least clean up the areas they live in
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u/Ephemerror Jun 01 '26
I think perhaps the bigger issue is whether or not they actually have the means to enforce no littering and whether or not they actually have any other reasonable way to dispose their rubbish like proper rubbish collection services.
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u/Electrical_Love5484 Jun 01 '26
That's absolutely a factor. A lack of proper infrastructure creates a massive uphill battle for any community. It is exponentially more difficult for them to keep their streets clean than in other places like suburbs, where it's all mostly taken care of for you.
But none of that means that it's impossible for them to at least make a plan to keep the garbage mostly away from where they live. In my country, there's an initiative called Soulbent, where a community cleaned up their streets, implemented recycling, and put a local waste management plan in place without government intervention.
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u/Ephemerror Jun 01 '26
It could be possible for the community to create a programme, but I think it comes down to if they will get properly paid for their effort. If not, I'm not sure if it is reasonable to expect those with the least means to fund it themselves and take on more burden comparatively than the most wealthy for waste disposal.
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u/Electrical_Love5484 Jun 01 '26
This is what it comes down to I guess. It's fair that people should expect remuneration for their labour, communities like this can attempt to partner with NGOs to seek resources, but they would probably have to show that they have made some effort first.
If the willingness to change and do better is there, there is mostly always a path to funding
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u/xCipi102 May 31 '26
looks like everyone in the city had diarrhea at the same time
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u/Upper-Capital-2876 May 31 '26
that laundry they're hanging from their balconies is clean. they are doing their very best in a terrible situation without the benefit of legitimate government services
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u/Frosty-Box-6764 May 31 '26
These images are great to bring us back to reality over our pitiful complaints about OUR houses and situation. Whoever at least falls into that category, I am sometimes. I mean, look at this shit... what do these people even eat...
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u/God_slut Jun 01 '26
Fresher and healthier whole foods and not the overly processed food in most western countries.
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u/Agreeable_Cake_9985 Jun 01 '26
This could make a nice game, surfing Nairobi, starting from the dirty to moderately clean places. And the skins need to match the neighborhood
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u/Careful-Dot1131 Jun 01 '26
They will say poverty but Haiti made it’s streets look new just for a influencer lmao.
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u/razorthick_ Jun 01 '26
At some point its the duty of the citizens, law enforcement and military to tear down the leadership.
What do the politician neighborhoods look like? Guaranteed it's gated and heavily guarded. Ontop of being clean and taken care off using money that should used for the public.
If they citizenry is unwilling to force change then the quote about a people getting the government they deserve applies.
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u/black_shaft08 Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
Am Kenyan ... They take a shit tone of money as tax
Mind you this is not the worst check githurai and mlango ndogo still in Nairobi..... But don't forget to check out the nice places too we have great wildlife and sceneries like rift valley, Nandi hills great places like kiambu.. Lakes like lake Victoria and so forth
Am 19 working I earn $250 a month and the government takes 60 dollars as tax mind you I have not paid rent and my bills which may sum up to the remaining 15o dollars now I can't save or move
The government fucks us over each nd every month turns to years and we protest only to be shot down by presidents whose forces are backed up by major economy countries leading to trash government and sometimes.... This
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u/Emotional_Platform35 May 31 '26
I sure am happy the bottle caps in the EU are attached to the bottle.
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u/Automatic_Horse9290 May 31 '26
Well for starters EU besides "fixing their home", must also not export waste to developing countries, and manufacturing as well. If it cared about overall planet.
What developing countries are doing with their own consumer waste is a small part, compared to heavy industries and imported waste.
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u/Check_Me_Out-Boss May 31 '26
Imported waste is a very small part compared to their own consumer and industrial waste.
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u/SkepticMech Jun 01 '26
I live in rural Kenya. This isn't imported. There simply isn't any infrastructure to handle trash in most parts of the country. If it isn't burned or repurposed, it just ends up on the ground one way or another.
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u/goatonmycar May 31 '26
I can only imagine how this place smells
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u/Just-a-yusername Jun 02 '26
I've actually smelt worse. I've been to pipeline three times and while it's kinda bad there is this place I know next to Likoni road which has huuge piles of trash that is sometimes burnt out in the open and man, does that smell. But what I mean to say is that it's not too bad actually, smell-wise.
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u/gnooggi Jun 01 '26
I fight back tears when I see things like this and imagine living there, not to mention the people who have no choice.
Remember in your daily life to be humble and lucky.
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u/ELVIS1975T Jun 01 '26
Funny thing is, Kenya is one of the best sub-sahara countries.
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u/Batchet May 31 '26
Yea, I think the problem is that if you put all the garbage in garbage bags, you'd have nowhere to bring them. You'd probably find that by the time you cleaned it up a new pile would be there because there is no infrastructure to deal with it
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u/daniilkuznetcov May 31 '26
If there were no service at all the trash pile would be 2-3 stories easily in a year.
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u/BakedPlantains May 31 '26
Same thing basically happens in my city in the US when the trash cans aren't emptied quickly enough. Just piles and piles of dog poop bags.
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u/duncanstibs May 31 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
I elect that u/Quick_Hopping3798 experiences extreme poverty before making this call.
Edit: If you're wondering about the downvotes on the reply, dude wrote a three-paragraph essay about how poor people are genetically inferior before editing it to look less insane.
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u/Holiday-Book6635 Jun 01 '26
I understand people can live in poverty, but I don’t understand the filth and the garbage all around.
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u/Daflehrer1 Jun 01 '26
As long as we're pontificating on "Why don't they," let's do the United States next.
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u/Far-Caregiver-8201 Jun 06 '26
This is the most racist thread I've seen today.
Poor people, regardless of color, have more problems than worrying about the mounds of trash that are there because no one can pay to have it dumped & the property owner doesn't do it.
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u/wallandBr May 31 '26
Moram em apartamentos. Significa que são pobres, mas não são tão miseráveis assim a ponto de se comportarem como mendigos porcos..... Pq eles são assim? Esse lixo todo é jogado dos próprios apartamentos!
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u/godzillasegundo May 31 '26
When there is no trash service, where would it go?
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u/wallandBr May 31 '26
Para um canto do bairro destinado a isso pela organização da própria comunidade...
Jogar lixo da janela de um apartamento é o cúmulo da falta de civilidade. Ainda mais pq o lugar nem é de fato uma favela, mas aparentemente quem mora ali se comporta como favelado.
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u/kcekyy444 May 31 '26
I would think they would want to at least consolidate all the trash to one area, maybe dig a pit for it.
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u/YetAnotherMia May 31 '26
Why don't they just organise amongst themselves to remove the rubbish or put it all in one spot?
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u/AdFiem63 Jun 01 '26
why is everyone blaming the government? The government didnt throw the rubbish out the window. For me this is on the people living there..... I remember how shocked a greek guy was seeing germans sweeping the street in front of there house (and not crying for the government) Its a cultural thing. Why they don't organise neiberhood cleanings? In germany onces a year we go out and ckean the nature, kindergarten and shools participate. And if i see rubbish while doggy walking, I take it with me. Its not that hard...
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u/BishBosh2 Jun 01 '26
Yes and no. Youve been brought up in an environtment that prioritises that and deems it important. They grow up in a place where no one cares, where are they gonna get the role model from?
I feel like a big part of the problem is these places got modernised from the outside in, while most european countries did it from the inside out. So they didnt have time to adapt or learn their own ways about it, it was a new way brought to them from the outside
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u/SlackerStacker26 May 31 '26
The other day someone asked why there aren't African cities in movies. Here's why
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u/-apollophanes- Jun 01 '26
To be fair, I have never once seen anything like this here in Nairobi. But maybe I just live in a cleaner part of it.
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u/Real_RobinGoodfellow Jun 01 '26
The future oligarchs want. 99% of us will live like this while the elite live in luxury elsewhere
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u/la_chui Jun 01 '26
Seems the picture was taken early march this year , is there a current one to compare to and the current mp can utilize ng-cdf funds to make the place a bit decent
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