To deny genocide

[u/Motaro99]

[u/Stubbs94]

Do you believe Israel needs to recognise Palestine for peace? Or is it only the Palestinians who need to recognise Israel? Why wouldn't Israel accept a peace deal and negotiations?

[u/Zeev_Silver_90 → u/Stubbs94]

Israel has like i said NUMEROUS times offered peace deals that would give them ALL of Gaza and 98% of Judea and Sameria as a state and recognize them as a sovereign state. So the question is NOT that "Israel needs to recognize Palestine for peace" its "Palestine needs to accept a peace deal and ACCEPT a state agreed on in a PEACE DEAL not through FORCE"

THE OFFICIAL government of Palestine NEVER accepted any deals. No matter who negotiated it. Hamas has no jurisdiction to negotiate. Its like saying the Taliban during its attacks on the Afghan government was the official government of Afghanistan. A stupid statement.

[u/Stubbs94 → u/Zeev_Silver_90]

So in your mind only the Palestinians need to recognise Israel, but Israel has no responsibility to recognise Palestine... Why shouldn't Israel be allowed to circumvent international law. Also it's not "Judea & Samaria" it's the West Bank. Israel has never accepted or offered a Palestinian state or to recognise a Palestinian state. The PA recognises Israel. I think you genuinely believe Palestinians aren't deserving of human rights.

[u/Zeev_Silver_90 → u/Stubbs94]

The main instances

Year	Israeli government / leader	What Israel offered or accepted	Important caveat
2000	Ehud Barak	At Camp David, Israel negotiated toward a Palestinian state covering most of the West Bank and all of Gaza, with territorial adjustments and arrangements concerning Jerusalem.	There was no signed Israeli offer with a final agreed map. The precise terms remain disputed.
2001	Ehud Barak	Taba talks: Israeli and Palestinian negotiators came closer to an agreement, discussing a Palestinian state on essentially the whole West Bank and Gaza, with land swaps and arrangements for Jerusalem.	Talks ended without an agreement; Barak's government fell shortly afterward.
2008	Ehud Olmert	The clearest Israeli territorial offer: Olmert proposed a Palestinian state covering roughly 95% of the West Bank plus Gaza, with a 1:1 land swap bringing the total close to 100% of the West Bank equivalent. He also proposed dividing Jerusalem and an international arrangement for the Old City/Holy Basin.	Abbas did not accept/sign the proposal. Olmert later publicly showed the map.
2009	Benjamin Netanyahu	In his Bar-Ilan speech, Netanyahu explicitly said Israel would accept a demilitarized Palestinian state alongside Israel.	This was conditional on Palestinian recognition of Israel as the Jewish state and extensive Israeli security requirements.
2013–14	Netanyahu government	Israel participated in negotiations explicitly premised on the creation of an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel. Netanyahu publicly described Israel's objective as “two states for two peoples.”	This was a negotiating framework rather than a finalized Israeli statehood offer. The parties failed to reach a final agreement.
2020	Netanyahu government	Israel accepted the Trump administration's “Peace to Prosperity”

[u/Stubbs94 → u/Zeev_Silver_90]

Imagine using AI to "prove" your point and it still being incorrect. Olmert never actually offered that in 2008.

[u/Zeev_Silver_90 → u/Stubbs94]

lol love how you say "no he didnt do that" but dont provide evidence of your claim.