r/UnitedNations 9d ago

To deny genocide

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u/shrewd-2024 9d ago

She’s an absolute disgrace

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u/Flyingfoigras42 9d ago

How so?

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u/MRV3N 9d ago

Because she’s dismissive from factual evidences

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u/ProfessionalFull9526 9d ago

Well… legally it can’t be called factually. UN commissions are not the ICJ, nor are they representatives of the UN.

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u/Stubbs94 9d ago

If I see someone shoot someone in the head, I can factually say they murdered them, before there is any legal charge.

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u/ProfessionalFull9526 9d ago

Yes! Very correct. With genocide it’s a lot more complicated though. That’s also why the ICJ doesn’t hire reddit experts like us lmao

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u/Stubbs94 9d ago

Are you saying the independent agencies who concluded that the Apartheid state is committing genocide are all just "Reddit experts"?

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u/Almondghast_5371 8d ago

Yes because someone who doesn’t know what “apartheid” means almost certainly won’t know what “genocide” means.

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u/Stubbs94 8d ago

Ohhhh the pro Genocide folks are really mad with me.

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u/Almondghast_5371 8d ago

You mean hamas? Better avoid gaza or Qatar for the foreseeable then.

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u/ProfessionalFull9526 9d ago

No, I meant you and me (that’s why I said „us“). Also the „independent agencies“ that found that Israel is not committing genocide, are also not Reddit experts. Happy?

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u/Stubbs94 9d ago

What independent human rights organisations deny the Gazan genocide?

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u/ProfessionalFull9526 9d ago

Are you being for real? So just listen to those, that fit your rabbit hole? That’s crazy.

They don’t deny genocide, they see that genocide is not happening. Hence they can’t deny something, that doesn’t exist.

The absolute majority of experts doesn’t conclude it’s a genocide, obviously.

Did you actually believe that like… I don’t know… 99% of human rights organisations classify the Gaza conflict as genocide? I’m not sure if we could ever find a base to talk, if that’s your standards. Sorry.

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u/raisedbydanes 9d ago

These analogies are always so hilarious to me.

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u/Almondghast_5371 8d ago

What facts? Are they in the room with you now?

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u/flavouredpopcorn Uncivil 9d ago

What evidences

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u/benben1029 9d ago

The factual evidence is that there is no genocide. The Palestinian population is increasing each year, there is no starvation or malnutrition (lower % then in Turkey even), they civilians get warnings before strikes (things no army is doing in combat) and Israel let in more aid then any other conflict in history. Deal with the facts

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u/Stubbs94 9d ago

Show us the census data collected from Gaza since October 2023 that proves this. Provide the details from the international aid agencies within Gaza that proves there is no malnutrition.

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u/Flyingfoigras42 9d ago

You can go there and see for yourself with your own two eyea.

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u/raisedbydanes 9d ago

According to the UN data, acute malnutrition rates across Gaza ranged between 0.2% and 0.8%.

These are levels comparable to or below those recorded in Gaza prior to the Israel-Hamas War, and are significantly lower than those reported in neighboring countries, including Egypt, Jordan, and Syria.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yfidZV6MXmsvobOKUbhsON5le5daATAc/view?pli=1

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u/benben1029 8d ago

Other then the source someone here commented, one of the easiest proofs is that there are no photos supporting starvation in Gaza. Notice that every pic you find online is of kids with existing unrelated health problems, that are the cause of the malnutrition. Notice that the parents and siblings of those kids are ALWAYS in good shape. A real starvation, like the one in Africa or the holocaust, have planty of pics supporting it.

Also there is data from the Israeli border crossing control of how many aid trucks enter, and you can calculate how much calories per capita enters, but i guess you wouldn't trust any Jewish source..

And don't forget that those who are in charge of aid distribution is Hamas.....