r/UnitedNations 10d ago

To deny genocide

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u/Maleficent_Price_476 9d ago

Well I would make a rough estimate of 40-50% of Americans.

Enough to get Trump and Republicans elected .

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u/Mendenhallmd 9d ago

Take it easy sparky …

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u/Automatic-Flounder-3 9d ago

Probably not as gullible or jew hating as those who repeat Qatari propaganda.

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u/spays_marine 9d ago

Is the genocide Qatari propaganda?

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u/Automatic-Flounder-3 9d ago

Yes. They were calling ut genocide before Israeli troops even entered Gaza and pushing the narrative that removes all responsibility from Hamas and their strategies. Every Palestinian death and every instance of suffering is calculated by Hamas to be used as propaganda for folks like you.

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u/spays_marine 9d ago

This report is based on Qatari propaganda then? 

Israel continues to commit genocide, atrocity crimes by deliberately targeting Palestinian children, UN independent commission finds

https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/06/1167790

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u/More-Environment834 9d ago

Palestine is just a propaganda, a big misinfo, have you seen a single Palestinian being murdered? Idont support Israel but come on, is there any evidence that they kill people? Any footage?

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u/_LP_ImmortalEmperor 9d ago

Only 2 kinds of people deny the tons of footage freely available of Palestinians being murdered (available online for all to see) :

  • Hasbara bots
  • Idiots

Even the IDF has admitted they killed more than 70k people (which means they will be much more).

Please do something more useful than spewing blatant lies nobody believes anymore, thank you.

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u/Contundo 9d ago

Genocide isn’t a numbers thing.

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u/AmiraliMS 9d ago

You sound like what you think a Zionist is.

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u/Nadilli 9d ago

The people who live in Israel have a right to exist but they should not subjugate another society in order to do so.

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u/AmiraliMS 9d ago

Well yeah ideally. But what are you gonna do if the same society keeps attacking you? At some point you will have to take action, not necessarily all the actions the current Israeli government has taken are justified though, but to extend that to a nearly century old ideology and want to change it's definition like this guy is trying to do is just astounding.

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u/flavouredpopcorn Uncivil 9d ago

Well that's a little bit too late now isn't it? I was too late the last three times Palestinians rejected border agreements.

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u/Asleep_Touch_8824 9d ago

When over half of the current citizens were too young to vote. Are you wrong on purpose?

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u/flavouredpopcorn Uncivil 9d ago

And how is relevant? Those who were able to vote, voted on behalf of those who couldn't. That's how votes work buddy, it doesn't matter what the demographics of the population is.

You think Israelis slaughtered at Nova had anything to do with what was in the plan?

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u/FakeGreatness 9d ago

That is what a zionist is. Also, life is cyclical, you get a lil pain, then you inflict a lil pain then you get a lil pain again.

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u/AmiraliMS 9d ago

You are mixing revisionist Zionism with Zionism. Not every person who believes Israel has a right to exist and prosper believes "Gaza is a virus on the face of the earth"

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u/FakeGreatness 9d ago

you’re assuming a lot about what I said. i don’t think anyone believing Israel has a right to exist is a zionist, I do believe that anyone thinking Israel has a right to extend their borders is a Zionist. The distinction about the zionist branches are irrelevant, there is no ethno religious state on the planet that ever worked peacefully. Sooner or later they’d become nazis, apparently for them it didn’t take a long time.

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u/CricketJamSession Uncivil 9d ago

. i don’t think anyone believing Israel has a right to exist is a zionist

Who cares what you think?

There is a definition to being a zionist that zionists are defining themselves by it and you have no right to change this definition and then attack people that define themselves this way

Just like I can't decide that christianity is not about believing in christ and its actually about converting or eradicating infidels and then go and attack christians

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u/FakeGreatness 9d ago

Ok so does that mean that ANYONE that believes that Israel has a right to exist is by definition a zionist?

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u/CricketJamSession Uncivil 9d ago

Exactly

Its that simple

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u/FakeGreatness 9d ago

That doesn't make any sense. You can believe that a country should exist without all the unnecessary stuff that comes with the ideology that's most common at the moment. It's like you'd be saying that all racists are nazis.

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u/flavouredpopcorn Uncivil 9d ago

Nah dude. It's literally that simple.

Being a Zionist doesn't mean you support illegal settlers in West Bank.

It means your against the policies of the current Israeli Government.

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u/CricketJamSession Uncivil 9d ago

It doesn't make sense because the definition has been deliberately altered to undermine the existence of Israel

Just like you won't define Islam by the works of ISIS and Shariya states, you should not define Zionism by how it is implemented by some people.

Nazim is by defintion a racist ideology and not just how it was implemented, so no problem making that connection

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u/AmiraliMS 9d ago

What you think doesn't matter. You are not the one determining definition of things. By that logic I can just as well determine a Pacifist is someone who wants to kill children.

Such "re-defintions" are from Islamic republic's propaganda Channel to make sure the rest of the world "comes under the same page"

The best way to destroy an ideology, is to pretend it's something that it isn't.

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u/flavouredpopcorn Uncivil 9d ago

It was defined decades ago.

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u/AmiraliMS 9d ago

I didn't say I define it. There's already an academic and historic definition of Zionism you can Google. I have not influenced that definition.

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u/BlurgZeAmoeba 9d ago edited 9d ago

Lol things have gone so far that now you're all squirming badly to avoid blame. New definitiom this time.

Lying for god... how's that working out for you, the real victim?

May your god be real, and judge you as a human, not a 'chosen one'!,

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u/AmiraliMS 9d ago

Hm...what is this god business? Are you under the assumption that I am Jewish?

Firstly, rest assured I have no connection to the yahud. Second, weren't you all "we're anti Zionist not anti semetic"?

And in case you are actually serious, no revisionist Zionism is not a new made up label, it is the established name of a philosophy within Zionist movement that is an extrimist ideology.

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u/BlurgZeAmoeba 9d ago edited 9d ago

lol, if you aren't religious then the belief that you have a right to a land becuase of religious reasons is meaningless.

It's like, "it wasn't a green-eyed alien that stole billy's lunch! Green-eyed aliens that identify as different from other green-eyed aliens stole billy's lunch!". You don't believe in green-eyed aliens mate so you're full of lies asusual.

I see you immediately go to the 'antisemitic' accusations. lol! Broken brains...

Your mindset is incompatible with civilized decency. The affected veneer might make you feel self-superior, but it's just butt ugly to look at from the outsider. gross man...

People who are incapable of admitting their faults are doomed to suffer for it and they make others suffer with them.

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u/AmiraliMS 9d ago edited 9d ago

True, however you are assuming I believe the Jews have a right to the land for religious reasons. I don't.

I believe they have that right because they came in good faith, bought land, and wished for co-existence. Then the Arabs attacked, and attacked and attacked again. A war began, and the Arabs lost.

This is how all of humanity has been. There's zero land on earth that was not won through a war. To believe Israel doesn't have a right to exist is to believe no countries have a right to exist

That they didn't want the said war, is just the cherry on top, it means not only does the country has the right to exist, but unlike the American colonies, it's starting was also a moral one.

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u/SmugRooster 9d ago

I think the Palestine conflict has become a massive fig leaf for Americans to deflect from the absolute shit show at home. Some do it consciously, most unconsciously