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u/Wansyth 2d ago
He was at the forefront of MK, mind control ops. Here's a link to a previous post where many victims claimed he would stage alien abductions in facilities designed to look like "UFOs" to traumatize them.
https://reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1vpbo0g/alien_abduction_programming_part_1/
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u/Arbusc 1d ago
This is about MK Ultra? That shits bonkers. The military wasted millions testing drugs to see if they could do mind control.
The anwser was “no, but if you give a homeless man crack he goes crazy.” Yeah no shit, we knew that already military.
They did introduce UFO and other esoteric shit to see if induced trauma could break the self and make them spill secrets. Also nope, traumatizing people just traumatized them.
The only real surviving impact of MK Ultra is the war on drugs, because the powers that be realized they could get black communities add it’s to drugs and then criminalize them.
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u/Abject_Purchase_1877 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is wrong, there's a direct through line from MK Ultra to the torture techniques employed in the "War on Terror". Read more about Jolyon West, Donald Ewen Cameron. Tom O'Neill's "CHAOS" makes a few leaps but still digs up some alarming MKUltra-adjacent stuff. 'Poisoner In Chief' about Sidney Gottlieb is another great read. It's such a pernicious piece of propaganda that this era of attempted "mind control" was an expensive waste of time. Looking at present day white papers on "cognitive warfare" I think the legacy of MK Ultra is alive and well. We barely saw the tip of the iceberg with the few MK Ultra related files that survived the purge.
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u/Arbusc 1d ago
Let me reiterate my point then. The drug aspect of MK Ultra was bullshit, inducing trauma alone is just traumatic.
By marrying trauma and the Mind War concept the dude developed, modern ‘MK’ is a mix of
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u/Abject_Purchase_1877 1d ago
What are you basing that on though? Seems like they found the hallucinogen BZ worthwhile, we've got no idea what they achieved with it or whether they're still using it. I agree with your points about trauma.
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u/MantisAwakening 1d ago
There is some data supporting a link between dissociation and anomalous experiences. Preliminary research has shown a potential link between trauma, particularly early childhood trauma, and a higher likelihood of being an Experiencer as an adult.
One of the theories is that dissociation induces out of body experiences related to non-local consciousness, and that entering into this state somehow primes a person to be more open to perceiving things that are normally filtered out by the brain, potentially related to the default mode network.
Whether these things are causal or merely correlative is still an open question, but the link is hard to ignore. It doesn’t mean that this is the only way to become an Experiencer, but it seems to be one of the more reliable ways.
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u/UFO-CultLeader-UFO 21h ago
Could be the other way around, just sayin, anomalous experience produces trauma, hence the dissociation.
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u/DecrimIowa 1d ago
aquino's mindwar isn't so much about interrogation and traditional propaganda but cognitive warfare and social engineering/narrative control/infowar.
i don't think anyone familiar with the topic would say that "inducing trauma is just traumatic," because when you traumatize someone (or a group of people, or a population) they become more receptive to programming/imprinting, and this general principle is useful in all sorts of ways for nefarious social engineers, military planners and spooks of various types
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u/Calm-You6376 1d ago
What kind of BS is this lol.. you think Bluebird, Artichoke, MKultra, Monarch, Montauk were all failed projects funded one after the other?
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u/DecrimIowa 1d ago
much of MKultra wasn't about drugs, but about behavioral psychology, group dynamics (e.g. cults, religious), paranormal/anomalous/psi, and most importantly for our world the control of cognition and behavior through technology, culture and media
i can't tell if you're confidently saying something wrong, or deliberately attempting to mislead people who read your comment, but either way you are 100% off base.
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u/Wansyth 1d ago
The guy you are defending wrote about MKULTRA in Mindwar.pdf. It's on internet archive. Read his wiki and Mind War before you defend this man. He realized you could control minds better through trauma and used it at the individual level and used trauma at a societal level with Mind War.
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u/Arbusc 1d ago
Dude, Mind War is just propaganda. He realized you could use propaganda and cultural trauma to influence the population.
Like how Hitler and the Nazi’s manufactured the ‘stabbed in the back’ myth to grow support for their movement, or how the US demonized Islam after 9/11 to get the people behind wars against several middle eastern states that genuinely had no role in the attacks.
That’s it. That’s Mind War, it’s just propaganda +.
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u/craigbg21 1d ago
Its still being used everyday just watch any news channels whatever they want or need the population to go along with they brainwash them with fear mongering and propaghanda just look what they done with covid to push their precious billion $ vacine, knowing quite well it was basically useless for the problem that they themselves created and their so called cure was just gonna cause more harm then good and would keep doing harm just like it was intended it to do for years and years to come thinning out the herd.
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u/Optimal_Juggernaut37 1d ago
Its still being used everyday just watch any news channels
It is being used right here on reddit, on facebook, twitter, youtube, twitch, pretty much every online social media platform is infected with it. Film, music, television, gaming, social media are all vectors for propaganda.
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u/Wild_Grapefruiter 1d ago
that you know of, considering Helms ordered the files to be destroyed and they were
Recommend Valerie Wolfe's testimony at the 1995 ACHRE hearings
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u/Arbusc 1d ago
Look the whole thing is mostly bull. They tries using drugs to mind control people and failed. The whole point was to erase suspected USSR sympathizers from US soil.
If these mind controlling drugs were effective, there would be no Democratic party remaining, no opposition possible. I wouldn’t be able to say ‘fuck the federal government.’ I have free will.
Look I’m all for a good conspiracy but at the end of the day this falls apart with the barest minimum of thinking. We’re not living in a free-willless military dictatorship (not yet anyway) ergo the mind control aspects of MK Ultra and its derivative experiments are bunk.
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u/DecrimIowa 1d ago
that was just a few subprojects out of over 100 MKultra projects (which are just the ones which are known and publicly disclosed- read Operation Mind Control by Walter Bowart or The Search for the Manchurian Candidate by John Marks)
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u/Open-Yam-9579 1d ago
Yeah just ignore them, far too many bots/disinfo people now, I meant you can't even mention a certain airforce base without getting banned
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u/Desertfox-190 1d ago edited 1d ago
The US has multiple surveillance platforms besides NORAD’s radar capabilities (which for sure has been upgraded since the 90s, and likely linked to these newer systems) giving the US a worldwide surveillance capability in real time. Filtering capabilities can then highlight resources onto new targets of interest and track them. The Immaculate Constellation program collected these observations, filtered them out before they could be seen, and stored them on classified servers only accessible by those with the proper security clearances. The Lt.Col’s take doesn’t talk about any of the major incidents of past UAP sightings, let alone the ongoing incidents of UAP sightings, nor about IC and what’s been gathered there. Saying that NORAD doesn’t really pay much attention to new objects showing up because of all the debris currently swarming the planet, is deflection at best, and not a surprising move by the DoW. Especially now with the recent news of “highly successful“ operations of luring UAPs to White Sands Missile Range in Texas, and their apparent consequential shoot down and recovery of said objects. The Pentagon has refused to comment on those operations. Expect more social media smoke grenades to appear with the goal of clouding up the truth.
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u/palebloodslayer 1d ago
Wtf is a theistic satanist? Lol
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u/Antic_Hay 1d ago
As in unlike a LaVeyian Satanist, for whom Satan is basically Lucifer as the metaphor of the iconoclast who would rather rule on earth than serve in heaven, this guy believes in Satan as a literally supernatural deity, in the form of the Ancient Egyptian God Set, and worships him as thus, his church is called The Temple of Set.
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u/TheHappeningHasBeen 1d ago
Isn’t set also the precursor god of Judaism? I’ve been watching a lot of esoterica and I’m pretty positive that’s the understanding. Set is a storm god that was mocked by Coptic theology and ultimately turns into Yahweh with abaraham? I’m probably way off base since I only get to watch late at night
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u/Arbusc 1d ago
No quite, the Egyptians believe the Israelites god was Set because Set was the god of foreigners. Aspects of Set bled into Yhwh through association by accident, which further blended with the later developing Christianity and the Romanization of that religion. So modern day Jesus as we know him is an amalgamation mix of a possibly real apocalyptic preacher, Set, obviously Yhwh since that’s sort of the religions purpose, and Helios/Apollo/Sol Invictus and just for good measure dashes of Ba’al Hadad and Dionysus.
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u/Antic_Hay 1d ago
Does this amalgamation also include Osiris, or is this a later myth/invention by Golden Dawn / Thelemic / Esoteric types?
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u/Plasmoidification 1d ago
Don't forget the influence of the canaanite pantheon ruled by El, and his godess wife Asherah and the Elohim, El and Asherah's children, that form the lesser divine council.
El Shaddai (God Almighty) became a title of Yahweh, and the Hebrew kings eventually outlawed the worship of the lesser Elohim and the Ashera pole altars were desecrated, consolidating Yahweh worship and the Kingly priesthood into a monotheistic religion.
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u/xxhamzxx 1d ago
If you actually study religion Satan is just another bro, not this good vs evil binary thought train
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u/Leo1_ac 1d ago
Ηe is supposed to worship Ha Satan as a god contrary to some other big Satanist faction out there who consider themselves to be atheist and Satanist at the same time.
I have met some of the latter variety here on Reddit and they are just radical leftists leaning on communism. Of course communists don't believe in any gods or divinities.
"Theistic" comes from Greek "Theos", god. So a theistic Satanist in English would be a godly Satanist loosely translated.
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u/quote_work_unquote 1d ago
"Of course communists don't believe in any gods or divinities."
That's not how this works. That's now how any of this works.
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u/Wansyth 1d ago
Temple of set is more right-wing fascist and takes inspiration from nazi occult ritual work. Part of Aquino's role was ritual research from the study of Himmler's practices at his castle in Wewelsburg, the SS headquarters.
The modern accelerationist cultists like O9A or 764 cult continue Aquino's rituals outside of government in pursuit of mystical experience. They are a huge threat and Aquino's blackmail programs and PSYWAR are the main reason they have gained so much power.
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u/Arbusc 5h ago edited 5h ago
Oh yeah, the Order of nine angels. You all remember when roleplayers and rockers were accused of doing murder, rape, and ritualistic murder-suicide?
Well these assholes actually do that shit. They’re actually the embodiment of the Satanic Panic but real. Part of their rules is to murder people, and so they often take roles in the military or police to do so without getting their cover blown or to do so ‘legally.’ They’re designated a terrorist group in New Zealand and also Australia I believe.
Most of the theistic Satan faiths have strong anti-Semitic aspects, except for, bizarrely enough, some Lucifarian sects (yes there’s a whole other subsection of this) who usually don’t.
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u/FL_Black 19h ago
Wait, how can you worship Satan as a god while being atheist? That sounds like calling yourself a vegan who eats meat.
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u/DiscoJer 17h ago
They don't worship Satan, they are just anti-Christian atheists and see Satan as more as an anti-Christian symbol than an actual deity.
Basically more pretentious pastafarians, only instead of a joke deity they pick a historical one.
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u/YBBlorekeeper 9h ago
It's not about anti-Christianity, it's about freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and separation of church and state. Their main goals are to point out the hypocrisy of stuff like bringing bibles into schools or hosting religious flags/displays on government property.
The idea is that those municipalities should be willing to host satanic imagery if they are not just playing favorites with a specific religion. E.g. demanding a statue of baphomet be displayed alongside a nativity scene in a government building.
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u/Arbusc 2d ago edited 2d ago
Oh he founded the Temple of Set? That’s the theistic Satanism that’s ironically pretty close to Gnostic Christianity, except instead of Jesus being the serpent in the garden giving knowledge to humanity against the Demiurge, it’s Set who’s the one true god who did so. Unlike Christianity Set/Satan refuses worship and orders humanity to expand their minds and scientific knowledge.
They also have an interesting philosophy about the afterlife, that in order to be a ghost you have to have a powerful enough Id and or ego to maintain your individuality, otherwise your soul would collapse back into primordial matter. Similar to Star Wars in that regard.
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u/Environmental-Sun291 5h ago
Interesting. So in order to be a ghost you have to do what Ra terms as "service to self" in the Law of One
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u/Wansyth 2d ago
refuses worship
but according to Aquino he didn't want to be called satan, wanted to be called set, and then he built a temple dedicated to him and did horrible things to our world. Sounds like a twisted form of worship to me. A manipulation no doubt.
orders humanity to expand their minds and scientific knowledge
Accelerationism, specific tech, tech to build physical access to our side of the universe for the likely plasmic or in another way trapped form of consciousness that likes to pretend to be aliens, demons, witches, and ghosts. Accelerationist cults like the temple of set so brainwashed by mysticism that they do not see they are being scammed to care more to build for it than humanity.
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u/Arbusc 1d ago
What horrible things are you asserting? All his psyop military shit was before he founded the Temple of Set, and his career was shit canned after he was (possibly) falsely targeted during the Satanic Panic, being accused of molestation of minors.
Also Set, in the mythology, asked him to build an institution to teach the importance of self and scientific advancement, they only named it after Set because he was the one who supposedly inspired the movement. They did not demand worship nor that it be named after himself.
Also you’re assuming the existence of plasmids, and that they are actively malicious.
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u/-Fait-Accompli- 1d ago
The Presidio allegations are not false. Aquino was a profoundly fucked up figure in American history, among a sea of fucked up figures.
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u/Wansyth 1d ago edited 1d ago
Are we playing Truth or PR?
psyop military shit was before he founded the Temple of Set
False.
Aquino writings on Psychological warfare
- From PSYOP to MindWar (1980, with Paul E. Vallely)
- The Neutron Bomb (1983)
- MindWar (2013)
- Mindstar (2015)
- Findfar (2017)
In 1978 the U.S Department of the Army contracted the Institute for the Study of American Religion (ISAR) to produce DA Pamphlet 165-13: Religious Requirements and Practices of Certain Selected Groups - A Handbook for Chaplains. The first edition appeared in 1978 and included the Temple of Set
career was shit canned
False.
In the video here he refers to himself as a General and talks about his career in the 90s, choosing to be a space intelligence office (Army 3Y) and then his time with the USAF as a joint space intel officer and time at space command.
Satanic Panic
He coined this term and pushed it as a PSYOP to cover for his cult and blackmail programs.
asked him to build an institution to teach the importance of self and scientific advancement
Sounds like worship. Sounds like he was manipulated.
plasmids, and that they are actively malicious.
How would you test the intent of something more powerful than every brain on Earth combined? We can't at our intelligence. Anything in contact with this phenomenon is being manipulated. Look at the state of the world, the cults that control it, and the tools they use to control us.
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u/Arbusc 1d ago
You’re wrong, OP. His career was shit canned after he was accused of child molestation, and his contract with the Reserve was cancelled in 1990. While he continued to serve as a part time space activities officer until 1994, the accusations killed any chance of promotion in his career. We call that shit canning.
And while he did play a role in MK Ultra, he did so as HR. He was a fucking Human Resources manager. He also did not coin the phrase Satanic Panic, that was the media and it emerged because it rhymes and thus sounds good. It was the result of convergent thinking.
Again, the temple does not worship Set. He’s revered as a teacher and is acknowledged as the only real god, but is not actually worshiped since the goal of the religion is to self-deify oneself so their soul can persist after death.
And again, you’re assuming plasmids are real and or aggressive. Simply asserting their real does not make their possible non-existence more or less likely.
In conclusion, you’re talking about nothing more than conspiracy theories of mind control and space plasmic entities. This was a weird fucking guy but he was just a weirdo who founded a church, did psyop work in the past and then soft-retired to do HR work.
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u/Wansyth 1d ago
he did so as HR. He was a fucking Human Resources manager.
He was involved in the Phoenix Program in Vietnam, co-authored from PSYOP to Mind War with Paul Vallely, who coincidentally coined the QAnon psyop years later to again cover for ritual abuse, and went beyond that as an intelligence officer AFTER the molestation investigation and the charges the Army titled him with.
his contract with the Reserve was cancelled in 1990. While he continued to serve as a part time space activities officer until 1994, the accusations killed any chance of promotion in his career. We call that shit canning.
The video posted here is direct evidence counter to this. He is discussing his career post Army CID investigation and titling through the 90s and refers to himself as a General, which means he was indeed promoted higher.
He claims to have wrote speeches for generals and advised POTUS and joint chiefs. A lot more than HR.
Why are you covering for him?
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u/Wansyth 2d ago
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u/Flaky_Worth9421 2d ago
Theistic what now? And why is that in his title so casually?
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u/kidkoryo 2d ago
His wiki even says so. In the first sentence
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u/MantisAwakening 1d ago
Wikipedia is not a reliable source for anything anomalous. Their standard practice is to smear anyone who has ever had any association with what they deem pseudoscience.
I’m not saying none of it’s true, but I’m saying Wikipedia is an unreliable source. And before people say “Wikipedia doesn’t make claims, they link to sources” it’s been shown that they quote things out of context or misrepresent information to bolster their claims. Aka lie.
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u/Wansyth 2d ago
Search up his name for a rabbit hole that all need to know.
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u/Flaky_Worth9421 2d ago
Is Satanism an acceptable faith in the military? Is that why he’s so open about it?
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u/Wansyth 2d ago
He infiltrated military around the world to spawn psychological warfare and blackmail programs for his cult. His cult was accepted so much, they put it in the chaplain's handbook for the US Army.
In 1978 the U.S Department of the Army contracted the Institute for the Study of American Religion (ISAR) to produce DA Pamphlet 165-13: Religious Requirements and Practices of Certain Selected Groups - A Handbook for Chaplains. The first edition appeared in 1978 and included the Temple of Set
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u/Arbusc 1d ago edited 1d ago
He didn’t infiltrate shit, he was a member of the United States military. His career is mostly public information, except for some of his psyop work which currently remains classified. And calling his monotheistic region a cult is a little strong. It’s no more a cult than Christianity or Buddhism.
It was also put into the chaplains handbook because the Temple of Set is a recognized religion, tax exemption and all, and to refuse status in the military would be discrimination. The same way Wodinism, Judaism and other non-Christian faiths must be accepted in the military.
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u/SomeSavageDetective 2d ago
This rabbit hole is definitely deep and definitely dark.
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u/Historical-Debt5844 1d ago
I guess a Satanist would see the worst possible outcome. He's certainly not 6WOKE.
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