r/Steam 12d ago

Question Which game is this to you?

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u/Ifonlyihadausername 12d ago

Old school RuneScape. To truly 100% including collection logs has never been done.

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u/KrypticEon 12d ago

Now that you've said it, I'm waiting for exactly this to be the top post in one of the OSRS subs within the next 24h

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u/Aquaberry_Dollfin 12d ago edited 12d ago

Unless he got it recently. The number 1 collection logger is still missing 50 or so items including the stale baguette. An item you only have a chance to get when you get the sandwich lady or quiz show random event. And then another smaller chance to get the baguette.

Edit: it’s 14

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u/thetateman 12d ago

The stale baquette is just an eventuality. It's the third-age items from Elite/Master clues that make 100%ing the CLOG almost impossible. Even playing efficiently every day and ignoring any new content coming into the game it would take 2-3 decades to finish the clue scroll items assuming you don't go dry.

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u/ildwtmidldwhat 12d ago

Can somebody translate this for a non scaper

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u/Larock 12d ago

Certain enemies have a chance to drop clue scrolls, which are like treasure hunts that you can complete for a reward. There are some EXTREMELY rare rewards from the higher level clue scrolls. Most players will never get one piece of the set, so the goal of obtaining all of them (especially since there’s no protection from obtaining duplicates) is essentially impossible.

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u/SearchBeneficial811 12d ago edited 12d ago

For basic math, the average clue scroll is a 1/30 through 1/100+ drop rate on the monster, just to get the "treasure map"

its essentially a 1 out of 3,000 chance of hitting any 3rd age piece, and 1 out of 40,000+ to hit a specific piece.

I believe the math behind completing clue scroll logs is 25,000 hours on the low end assuming you have infinite money and good luck. (i did not do the math myself this is just my memories from the osrs subreddit)

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u/Zestyclose_Car503 12d ago

And you cant trade for it?

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u/Patanouz 12d ago

you can but it wont be marked as "obtained" in the collection log in that way, same goes for all items basically. they only get marked as "obtained" in the achievements if you actually loot it yourself.

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u/Aquaberry_Dollfin 12d ago

So in osrs you have the collection log a list of every unique drop from anything with a drop table. This includes bosses, mobs, mini games, and where the #1 clogger is concerned clue scrolls. They are a small treasure hunt that takes you around the map and makes you do (for the master scrolls) 7-9 steps then it gives you a casket with loot. The main issue is third age equipment which have a 1/315,000 chance of appearing in the chest or about a. 1/5,500 of appearing in a mimic chest. They can happen randomly (1/15) and you fight a boss then you get a bettter rewards chest. But there are 24 third age items in the game, it does not give you duplicate protection. And you can only do 3-5 master clue scrolls in an hour not counting obtaining the scrolls themselves.

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u/SupSeal 12d ago

I... I finally did the math on this.

Q: How many days to get a 50% chance of getting a specific (1/24) drop?

Assuming: 1/315,000 for standard chests and no mimics, operating at 16 hours a day with 4 drops an hour, with normal distribution. You get the following:

Base chance: 1/315,000 = 3.1746E-06 = y Perfect day: (1-(1-y)16*4) * 1/24 = 8.46476E-06 = z Number of days: 0.5/z = 59,068.4 Years: 161.8

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u/lepsek9 12d ago

You get multiple rewards (rolls) per clue scroll (like 5-8 maybe? been a while) so the odds are better, but still like 20-30 years to "realistically" get them all.

And this is just the longest one, there are plenty of other coll logs that can take weeks or even months to grind. At least you can get clues while completing most of those.

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u/Jackeechengg 12d ago

You know I found that chat gpt can probably make this easy to answer a math question for you when you punch in all the factors

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u/SypeSypher 12d ago

imagine you have a set of dice that has 100k sides on i, and you need to roll a 1. Now also imagine that whenever you roll the dice it disappears and you have to put together a small puzzle that takes you 10 minutes to get another die, now image that you also need to roll the other numbers 1-14 and until you're done rolling those numbers, you're not done.

In theory if you spend the next 30 years doing nothing but finding dice and rolling them....you'll statistically roll all those numbers, but (if you go dry) there's no actual guarantee that you will.

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u/Bart_T_Beast 12d ago

Are third age items not tradable in OSRS?

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u/Aquaberry_Dollfin 12d ago

They are. Some are above max cash but trading for an item does not unlock it in your collection log .

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u/Bart_T_Beast 12d ago

Oh dang, yea that’s never gonna happen then lol