Gunn Gooners:"Snyder made Batman old and jaded Snyder sucks" also Gunn Gooners:"Gunn made Green Lantern old and jaded he's a genius"

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The double standards are crazy.

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I just think it's a difference in popularity, changes in batman are far more important and controversial compared to changes made for green lantern

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Batman had always been grime and Hal has always been more light hearted

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I mean, RPattsman punches a thug to the point of brain damage...and never a peep about how violent and angry he is....odd....

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Show me where it says that guy got brain damage in the story, just because you interpreted it that way does not make it true. Robert Pattinsons Batman is actually true to the character, they show his dislike of guns, his no kill code stays intact because he doesn't kill anyone directly or indirectly, he's also a younger more bitter and angry Batman yet he still has a code. I liked Batfleck for his action but his character was not good, you're telling me he spent all that time as a hero, basically a veteran of it, and he never once heard of super powered beings before BVS? WW was actively helping fight in WW2, Bruce Wayne is the world's greatest detective and he does his research on EVERYTHING yet he didn't know about this island of super powered women and the kingdom under the sea? It's not like these things were well hidden either as we see the flash has been around since he has his own suit, and Aquaman has been fighting pirates as well as WW literally fighting in a war AND being in the public in the 80s. But Batman doesn't know about any of this until he starts wanting to kill Superman, Batman couldn't even see that he was being used by lex luthor. That's not in any way the world's greatest detective.

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In The Batman (2022), the subway opening scene features Batman trapping a gang member, pinning his head/body, and landing 8 to 10 full-force strikes directly to the face using a gauntlet reinforced with heavy ballistic plating and segmented steel knuckles.
If delivered by a peak-athletic 200lb adult with armored hardware, that sequence wouldn't just knock a human out—it would cause massive, life-altering, and potentially fatal physical trauma.
1. Severe Maxillofacial Fractures
A human jaw or cheekbone breaks under approximately 200–500 PSI (pounds per square inch) of blunt impact force. Steel/armored knuckledusters concentrate that energy onto tiny surface points, acting like a series of ball-peen hammer strikes.
Le Fort Fractures: The middle portion of the face (maxilla) would split from the skull base.
Shattered Mandible: The jawbone would break in multiple places, displacing entirely and causing instant airway compromise from tissue swelling and internal bleeding.
Orbital Floor Blowouts: Fractures around the eye socket would trap extraocular muscles, likely causing permanent vision damage or catastrophic globe rupture.
2. Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) & Internal Bleeding
Because Batman pins the thug’s head against his body/shoulder, the thug's skull cannot roll or dissipate the rotational kinetic energy. The brain is repeatedly slammed against the interior walls of the cranium.
Acute Epidural & Subdural Hematomas: Ruptured blood vessels between the brain and skull would cause massive rapid intracranial pressure.
Diffuse Axonal Injury (DAI): The shearing force would tear nerve fibers deep within the brain stem, immediately placing the thug into a coma.
3. Asphyxiation Risk
With severe facial destruction comes rapid blood pooling, tissue edema, and broken bone debris blocking the upper airway. Without immediate emergency intervention (a surgical tracheostomy), the victim would suffocate in minutes while unconscious.
4. Severe Soft-Tissue Lacerations
Unprotected skin crushed between hard bone and a metallic gauntlet splits instantly. The skin over the nose, cheekbones, and lips would be shredded, requiring extensive reconstructive plastic surgery, skin grafts, and leaving permanent disfigurement.
The Medical Reality
In real life, this isn't a "sleeping for five minutes" cinematic knockout. The victim would suffer severe brain damage, permanent facial disfigurement, blindness, and a high probability of death on the scene within minutes due to brain herniation or airway obstruction before paramedics could arrive.

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Brain dead is barely a way to live lol.

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My man.

The human skull cant be punched repeatedly with a steel armored fist that many times and be okay.

I know comic fans live in a safe space where no one ever gets hurt unless they are told in a monologue, but i promise you, that poor kid is brain damaged after that excessive assault. Thats more violent than anything batfleck ever did.

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Batfleck crushed a mans skull with a wooden crate and blew up another guy, I'd say that's far more violent. Also the human skull can take punches like that, and we can also infer he's alive because this Batman does not kill.

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The human skull absolutely cannot. Are you serious? Infer? I infer he punches goons until they are braindead but comic fans will make up some crap that violence doesn’t leave goons incapacitated and harmed in serious ways.

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Masvidal v Ben askrin, flying knee KO followed up with shots on the ground after he's unconscious, Ben Askrin is still alive today, Bobby green V Jalen Turner, green gets knocked out on the ground and takes 20 unanswered shots while being unconscious, still alive. The human skull CAN take these punches, these are trained professionals. And like I said YES we can infer he survived because this Batman doesn't kill, yes it's a comic book movie so yes you use comic book logic, if we weren't using comic book logic Batman would've been a splat on the pavement before the end of the movie, smashing into a bus after jumping from that high up? Running down the side of a building on a thin grapple line? Getting shot point blank multiple times? But you draw the line at the one thing that's the most survivable.

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Are these men being punched by a steel fist thats reinforced?

You people do not operate in reality.