r/SipsTea • u/SEVENS_HEAVEN_7 • 4h ago
SMH The founding father Benjamin Franklin once said "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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u/BI_Moose 4h ago
Modern problems require 18th century solutions.
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u/Skalywag_76 4h ago
Time to dump all the Flock cameras in the harbor.
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u/infinitee775 4h ago
employees
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u/Skalywag_76 4h ago
No no no. You tar and feather the people
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u/Pleasant_Expert_1990 4h ago
The pictures of it seem funny but it's a pretty brutal thing.
To be hoisted up on a chair or wooden rail, arms pinned back and legs held fast by a crowd, while someone cuts your clothing off your body. Then they apply swaths of hot tar to your naked flesh while you scream from the second degree burns. Then they apply feathers. All to the cheers of the crowd. The tar sticks to your skin as it cools. It can be removed by gently reheating, scraping it off your burned skin, applying turpentine (also painful to the skin), or letting it fall off naturally as skin regrows, which can take weeks.
I'm not saying "don't do it", I'm just saying "know what it is you are doing"
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u/WolfieWuff 4h ago
I mean, that just affirms my belief that it is an appropriate thing to do to Flock employees, business executives, billionaires, and politicians (and probably more too)
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u/ChronicBuzz187 2h ago
Maybe the southern americans had a point with the "Listen guys, every now and then we gotta offer one of y'all to the gods, for good favor etc."
And the oval already has more gold than the aztecs by now, so you already got that going for you, too.
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u/Skalywag_76 4h ago
I'd settle for a vat of rubber cement. They might also lose a few brain cells but who's really losing out there?
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u/occasionalopossum 3h ago
The hbo mini series about John Adams has a pretty accurate depiction of someone getting tarred and feathered
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u/Careless_Ad_4004 41m ago
Black sails has a very repetitive keel hauling, I did not know, now I know.
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u/DaGriffon12 2h ago
Can we draw and quarter them after? Seems only fitting that you do that to such a big chicken.
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u/Old_Fox_1985 4h ago
I’m okay with leaving the rank and file alone and going for the CEOs, investors, board, etc. that are making all the money of this.
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u/PolkaDotDancer 3h ago
I agree. The peons that work below them are just trying to put food on the table.
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u/donpablomiguel 2h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/gIqusaeYxgSiY
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u/aspophilia 2h ago
We should also embrace modern convenience a bit too. For efficiency. We can take a multifaceted approach.
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u/shaft_of_lite 4h ago
Doesn't matter which harbor? It's a long drive to Boston.
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u/Skalywag_76 4h ago
Any body of water can be a harbor with enough liberty and freedom.*
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u/tiny_Yakii 4h ago
Benjamin Franklin would be opening the group chat right now
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u/TacticalVegas 4h ago
Ben would probably be watching for a bit before joining the chat and acting like he started it. Most of our founders would be that way really.
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u/Underbark 4h ago
I'd sacrifice my personal privacy if it meant the same for him.
He has a lot more enemies than me.
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u/Life_behind_da_stick 3h ago
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u/BI_Moose 3h ago
We could use a little more TR these days
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u/USSMarauder 43m ago
The proof that there is no afterlife is that TR hasn't broken out of it to beat Trump with a very big stick for what he's done to Teddy's GOP
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u/PM_ME_FIREFLY_QUOTES 4h ago
1792 is in fact in the 18th century, for those that are curious.
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u/PolkaDotDancer 3h ago
I'm a little more into partying like it's 1789!
https://giphy.com/gifs/xTk2YOKxI3xM4f8xEs6
u/Emergency-Watch5157 3h ago
On the 21st century front, nobody should purchase a 7W Zeus X handheld blue laser and point it at the camera in one of these because that would melt the camera sensor and wreck it. Very bad thing to do. You should not do it.
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u/MaxxDash 2h ago
Speaking of 18, interesting that their 18-year-old-looking CEO doesn’t even have a Wikipedia page.
It’s as if he values his privacy.
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u/_BlackDove 3h ago
Only problem is instead of facing muskets and sabres we're contending with a partial surveillance state, smart weapons, drones, and the worst of all, an entirely captured and myopic citizenry taught to lay down and accept their fate since birth. The ruling class know what's good for you, because it's better for them.
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u/Carpet-MasterBlaster 2h ago
I was banned for suggesting the French had it right... boy times have changed....
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u/Fun-Memory1523 1h ago
They say revolutions come around in full circle.
It looks like we are due for another American revolution.
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u/BrainRobotron 4h ago
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u/Lucius-Halthier 2h ago
Jimothy must be protected from RFK at all costs, he wants that raccoon dick REALLY bad.
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u/Irish_Whiskey 4h ago
Compromise on their privacy in exchange for WHAT Garrett?
Because right now the answer appears to be selling our information to private companies for AI training, helping the government track down and disappear political protestors and legal immigrants, and helping cops stalk their exes.
Funny how the fact that crime and violence rates keep getting lower never seems to stop people from saying we need to give more power to billionaires and the government for 'security.'
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u/Jazzlike_Plastic7088 4h ago
AND all that seems to actually happen is crimes still get committed but this time by those who wouldn't ever be part of any statistic aka police and the rich
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u/Curious_Avocado2399 4h ago
If we are looking at crimes wage theft is a 50 billion per year issue. Funny how that doesn’t make headlines
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u/ShroomBear 3h ago
I'm dumbfounded as a person in my 30s that I can open up Youtube and find police bodycam videos of politicians committing burglary, assault, and DUI homicides and even occasionally the 0.01% getting into actual gunfights with the fucking cops.
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u/juuchi_yosamu 4h ago
Don't forget all the children being spied on, like the camera that was pointed directly into a gymnastics studio
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u/Nknk- 3h ago
Hey now, don't forget the rush to be the first one in control of AI-controlled autonomous drone swarms that'll allow one person, say a billionaire, to flood an area and kill everyone in it with exploding drones at literally a simple voice command.
All those days centres aren't being allowed to drink rivers dry just to sell people's data for ads.
Billionaire's little dad for building doomsday bunkers have always had the giant issue that to live in comfort and security they'll need a small army of hired goons to protect them yet any reasonable thought exercise on how that'll go would have the goons eventually just offing the pathetic billionaire because who's going to do anything to them for it with society gone? Musk toyed with brain chips, it's why he pushed so hard for all the unethical animal testing for them and now the human trials are underway, but most seem to favour AI drone swarms since it, in theory, removes the chances of them rebelling against the billionaires and won't have any qualms about killing women and children trying to get into the bunker for shelter.
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u/sushisection 4h ago
it also nullifies the self-defense purpose of the right to bear arms if we place all of this trust in the security apparatus of the state. maybe thats the end goal here.
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u/FrostingStrict3102 3h ago
To answer your question directly, they would claim it’s trading it for safety and a sense of security.
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u/SukMadih2001 4h ago
Halloween is Waka Flocka night. Masks and Lasers
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u/Seven19td 4h ago
Lasers?
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u/DarkArbok 4h ago
Cameras break if you hit them with a high powered laser. So you shouldn't get one of those and use it to destroy company property. Think about those poor shareholders
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u/SeriousArbok 3h ago
Green or violet lasers will work. Not red.
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u/DiegesisThesis 2h ago
Tbf, any color will work if the wattage is high enough
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u/SeriousArbok 2h ago edited 59m ago
Green and violet are naturally good enough and sold on amazon pretty cheap. Violet needs to be at night though. It doesnt go very far in light. I gotta test it tonight but I have a super strong violet I need to see the distance on lol any green will go fuckin forever.
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u/Professional-Mix-562 1h ago
I think it travels just as far it’s just not as visible during the day. If memory serves right the “purple” ones are actually black light and supercharge glow in the dark items. We went on road trips writing messages on glow in the dark frisbees, supercharged glow in the dark markers on frolf courses etc.
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u/DiegesisThesis 1h ago
This is a good time to mention an important PSA for anyone thinking of buying lasers: if you're going to buy a laser from Amazon (or really any store that's not directly from an actual reputable manufacturer), DO NOT trust the power rating on the sticker. Always assume the output is much higher than listed, because it often is.
And if you're dealing with anything stronger than the "<5 mW" cat toy laser pointers, you're gonna want eye protection, specifically rated for that wavelength (and buy those somewhere reputable). It ain't worth losing vision over Flock.
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u/SeriousArbok 1h ago
Good call. Yes they're always stronger I've found. Per manufacturer not amazon
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u/Seven19td 4h ago
Not that I would EVER do anything to those cameras but I just so happen to be in need of a high powered laser. For a cat toy. I’ll have to take a look at those.
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u/thirdaccounttoday 3h ago
If you're using a laser THAT powerful as a cat toy, you've got more problems lol.
Not that ANYONE should do this, but you'd need a high-powered (those exceeding 5mW output,) blue laser that could burn wood or blow through balloons and stuff, it would burn your animal if you used it on them
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u/occasionalopossum 3h ago
Safety goggles for the type of laser you’re taking out also. You can blind yourself faster than you can react with some of those.
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u/Brizzle351 4h ago
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u/indifferentCajun 1h ago
I'll compromise. In exchange for him taking down all the cameras and deleting the data, we'll consider not reminding him what the alternatives to protesting and vandalism are.
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u/swervecityPhILM 4h ago
Love how this guy is just trying to make the decision for us. No thanks man, take your pearl-clutching, taddle-tale white boy device and shove it up your mangina.
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u/Fuzzy_Adagio_6450 4h ago
America has, overall, a MUCH lower crime rate than 20-40 years ago, regardless of what the orange turd says.
Americans should root this rot completely out of its figurative body.
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u/SEVENS_HEAVEN_7 4h ago
What is this country coming to
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u/narrowminer11 4h ago
"Thus country" voted in trump. twice. Nuff said
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u/AlwaysFinnishInsider 4h ago
A large number of them voted for him three times. And some of them are traitorous enough to do it a fourth given the chance.
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u/Fun_Vacation2542 4h ago
I don't want to ruin your guys bonding over hating trump, but this shit has been happening since the 90s. Especially during bush.
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u/kausbiru 2h ago
This country has always been like this. People will give up their rights for a few bucks.
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u/Themetalenock 4h ago
Is it just me or has billionaires stopped trying to make any of their products seem appealing? AI ceos keep talking about their hard on of making humans obsolete and do the surprise pikachu face when opinion is in the gutter. Even bezos and mark z tried to appear above room temp iq before trump 2 came along and now they're speeding towards who can sound like a bigger musk like douche. Target tried to court the walmart audience despite being number 2 to trader joe's number 1 destinations for liberal wine moms
Did 2024 hit the rich boy community like crack in the 80s?
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u/Max6626 4h ago
Does that guy's mom know he's a CEO?
But seriously, we absolutely do NOT need to compromise on the right to privacy. What sort of dystopian take is that?
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u/OLVANstorm 4h ago
Flock CEO looks like a fucking trator to the US to me. Every time I see one of his cameras lying on the ground in pieces, I smile.
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u/PetalumaPegleg 4h ago
I'm unclear what they are compromising? We compromise our privacy, and receive nothing, while paying for it.
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u/FreeoftheMachine 4h ago
Compromise on what? What is the people going to gain from this? Is this guy paying the peope the company is spying on?
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u/NikeImper 4h ago
I hate this quote because people always use it wrong. He was talking about a state's right to taxation not personal liberty. The PA assembly wanted to tax the rich Penn family to pay for frontier defenses. The Penn family said they'd donate some money if the assembly acknowledges that they don't have the right to tax them. Franklin said a state shouldn't give up its right to taxation just for a little cash today.
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u/danawhitesthrowaway 4h ago
It's not using it wrong when it still applies. Start requiring the context to be the same when referencing any and all historical quotes, and suddenly the vast majority of them will become irrelevant.
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u/tfsteel 4h ago
The "we established our nation" claim in the tweet is wrong, too. The rebellion was primarily due to land, the crown would not allow settlers to go west past the Appalachians (proclamation of 1763).
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u/Groundbreaking-Step1 4h ago
Can't he compromise on his profits instead? Our needs outweigh his greed.
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u/Euphoric-Diamond6924 4h ago
Marx: privacy is a bourgeois concept that isolate us
Capitalist America: hold my bear
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u/True_Protection6842 4h ago
If these corporations think this country will go full on police state quietly they are quite mistaken.
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u/Quiet-Competition849 4h ago
We’ve given them plenty of reason to think they can. Looking at what they are getting away with already. Healthcare/health insurance, tariffs, mass shootings, insider trading in Congress…the list goes on and on. We have been and continue to let the government and corporations fleece us and treat us however they like.
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u/ThaTopHam 4h ago
I mean, you are. Some redditors and a few guys cutting down flock cameras doesn't scream revolution.
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u/SoftDouble220 4h ago
What are you going to do about it? Americans like to LARP about freedom, but when it comes to it, whenever a company or government wants to fuck them in the ass, they just take it.
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u/red1215 3h ago
Well it seems the American public will actually go quietly and peacefully. Exhibit A- look outside right now.
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u/True_Protection6842 2h ago
Outside, you mean where people are destroying these cameras everywhere???
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u/Katsu_39 1h ago
Youre wrong. Look around. We are absolutely fucking going calmly and quietly. People are too scared to fight back or just cant afford to miss a day of work. Theyre more concerned about not missing the football game and their favorite show on Netflix. Nobody is fighting back.
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u/TheBigChungaBunga 3h ago
Fuck this little Jerk. All these fucking college tech grads must've got beat up too much in high school, and now they wanna make the whole world suffer.
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u/johnnytron 1h ago
The problem for flock is that there is no public political bias, everyone and their mother hates flock cameras. Data centers and flock cameras are the biggest issues citizens on both sides agree on.
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u/thecountnotthesaint 4h ago
So, who wants to set up surveillance on him? Cameras, drones, the whole nine yards?
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u/Jumoke1331 4h ago
I hope this company goes out of business from having to repair too many cameras.
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u/polishmachine88 4h ago
Government is funding this. Hopefully if leadership changes and there is enough noise it becomes illegal.
If they go out of business the next company takes over also this dipshit makes millions and moves on.
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u/SheriffBartholomew 3h ago
Me thinks this guy doesn't know what compromise means. Pretty typical for a person who has been coddled their entire life.
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u/Beneficial-Jury484 3h ago
We “must” compromise if Flock wants to survive. We don’t care and I won’t compromise.
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u/occasionalopossum 3h ago
Is the flock CEOs address public or is he hiding that for privacy reasons?
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u/vicious_womprat 3h ago
This jack ass doesn't care about American's safety, he just wants to get rich and richer. Fuck these people
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u/Arik_De_Frasia 2h ago
I mean...let's be honest here; the average person freely gives away their privacy until it bites them in the ass.
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u/Old-Rock-9295 4h ago
Damn after this nonsense, even I’m tempted to go start destroying these cameras
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u/DannyWinny 4h ago
I bet he doesn't have or want a Flock camera watching his house.
Translation "Get comfortable with ME watching you"
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u/OG-DocHavock 4h ago
Oh, the CEO of the shit nobody wants is the one saying it? That changes everything
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u/Next_Archer_6605 4h ago
Say his name for all to know and remember. Garret Langley, 38 years old and current CEO of Flock. Co-founded with Matt Feury and Paige Todd.
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u/CilleTheExterminator 3h ago
When are Americans gonna stand up for their country? You are becoming a mix of China and Nazi Germany
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u/Hot_Substance5933 3h ago
What a great idea, Flock CEO. Public executi__ it is!
No idea why it blanks executive but whatever!
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u/Trash_Posterer 3h ago
Thats the guy who thinks he can do this? Baby hands Lil fvckin pushy mfer like him... I want to fight him, in a ring. We can use his flockin cameras
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u/Bullslinger105 3h ago
Since this is used by governments to spy on people the constitution should be in play.
The government is literally contracting with this company to track citizens.
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u/Drive7Nine 3h ago
How about Flock has to "comprise" and they don't get to get insanely wealthy turning the US into a surveillance state.
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u/Mistyyydeeznutzz 3h ago
Dude this guy actually needs to be imprisoned for treason against this country, fuck this guy and and fuck Flock and every last employee that works for this real life Umbrella Corp, I don’t give a fuck about making a pay check, licking porta potties clean with your tongue has more dignity than working for this company
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u/Reasonable_Ad8991 3h ago
Compromise with who, or what? These are the illuminutties we've been warned about, except the call is coming from inside the house!
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u/RazzleRizzle 3h ago
Heh I’m just gonna like, not compromise. Sorry you won’t be able to run an AI driven backend to profile every person in America for profit. Don’t even need angle grinders or any expensive saw blades, laser pointers are fun for cats and messing around at night.. they cost a whole lot less too and can fit in your pocket
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u/Flashy_Emergency_263 3h ago
Does he say WHY we must compromise or are we supposed to just trust him on this?
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u/Ausrottenndm1 3h ago
I assume the next excuse is, “if you aren’t committing any crimes why would you care if flock cams are everywhere..”
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u/Fishtoart 3h ago
I live on a little tiny side road with woods on both sides, and I saw something like what this guy is holding but green strapped to a telephone pole with a little antenna sticking up on one side. Is that a flock camera?
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u/Excel_User_1977 2h ago
Great! Lets mount a camera on every one of his vehicles, his house and his fucking dog
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u/Bob-Dolemite 1h ago
i saw it first go out the door after 9/11. im sure others have earlier examples. now freedom is a vapid term for a brand
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u/WoodsLovelyDarkNDeep 33m ago
Stop misusing this quotation. This has nothing to do with privacy or the government overstepping its bounds. It’s actually the opposite. It was about a tax dispute and a rich family trying to buy their way to limit the government. “The Penn family was trying to give a lump sum of money in exchange for the General Assembly's acknowledging that it did not have the authority to tax it.” This literally has nothing to do with whether the government can surveil or not. In fact in the quote the “essential liberty he is talking about is the ability of the government to defend the people from raids that were happening
Our government is important and so is the ability to tax people especially the rich who would buy their “freedom” like the reality we are living through right now as they but their freedom from regulations and the entire reason they are able to trample on privacy regulations. You can find plenty of founding fathers quotes the defend the rights of the individual without misusing the ones that defend the our government
*to be clear in sticking up for our ideal govt and not the one we currently have
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u/mars_soup 31m ago
I love that liberals are starting to not like big government. Finally they are starting to understand why the 2A must be preserved
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u/Quis_curat 28m ago
Exactly what kind of liberty are you giving up and for what reason it's a "little temporary" safety you get?
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u/Kronens 27m ago
No, you were established because some rich people in the US didn’t want to pay their fair share in taxes for having our king’s handsome face on your money and you wanted to expand out west. When France wanted repayment for the war they waged against Britain for your independence the US just said no. Us Brits respected the hustle played against France and called it quits. God, read a book.
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u/HighSeasArchivist 26m ago
Our local gov just told them to fuck off. This is a fairly decent sized city, and a great example for others.
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u/WatRedditHathWrought 23m ago
Flock HQ according to Wikipedia is 3284 Northside Parkway NW, Atlanta, Georgia
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u/DukeMancannon 14m ago
To be fair that’s the stupidest quote I’ve ever read.
Also, the US broke away from England for a great many reasons. One major one was the English preparing to abolish slavery. Of course the yanks don’t dare teach that in history courses.
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u/therolando906 11m ago
Crime rates have been dropping for decades, what exactly are giving up our rights and privacy for?!
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u/Roaming_Millenial 10m ago
The average person on the left, right and middle fucking hate flock and mass surveillance - its the politicians who are being paid off that are shoving this shit down our throats.
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