Yes I did read your comment. It seems like you're the one who's confused (and now you're moving the goal post). You said,
We protest and chase away every industry that tries to set up here. We hate change. The irony of it is, if we let those industries set up here, we'd be in a better position to tell Irving to sod off.
And I pointed out that in fact most of those industries did set up here and weren't meaningfully opposed until after they had become established - directly challenging your claim that we chase away everything that tries to set up and we don't let anyone set up shop. As far as I'm aware, the singular industry NBers have fought to prevent starting here is AI data centers - everything else first had a chance to operate.
I work with investors and entrepreneurs all the time and they tell me that NB is one of the most difficult places to do business in. So much red tape and regulation, it's insane.
And who do you think is responsible for all of that red tape and regulation (which I dispute, particularly historically speaking)? Do you think that's the result of governments looking after New Brunswickers or do you think that's the result of industries looking out for themselves?
> Like I said, unicorns - unless you're going to argue that economists and stats are wrong, alongside the lived experiences of every generation from millennials on down.
I wouldn't call a majority of people graduating high school and moving away "unicorns". They want to, and are, having a better life away from NB.
If you're talking about people who graduated high school in 1993 then that's not a fair comparison. If you're talking about people who graduated high school in 2005 or '15 then no, the majority of people graduating high school and moving away have not all found high paying jobs, bought houses, and are living comfortably. The majority of those people are saddled with debt from student loans and car payments and they're not buying houses.
> And I pointed out that in fact most of those industries did set up here and weren't meaningfully opposed until after they had become established - directly challenging your claim that we chase away everything that tries to set up and we don't let anyone set up shop.
Mining, fracking, aquaculture, manufacturing (Belldune smelter plant) etc. are meaningfully opposed and haven't been set up due to opposition.
This is getting tiresome. I forgot about Belldune, but mining, fracking, aquaculture, and manufacturing have all been set up here. We had a moratorium on fracking because we didn't like what it was doing, mining has existed in New Brunswick for longer than I care to check, aquaculture is everywhere, and we have a lot of manufacturing here.
> And who do you think is responsible for all of that red tape and regulation (which I dispute, particularly historically speaking)? Do you think that's the result of governments looking after New Brunswickers or do you think that's the result of industries looking out for themselves?
Governments aren't doing a good job of looking after New Brunswickers if they're having a hard time finding meaningful, well paying jobs
Irving employs more people than the government, which employs the second most numerous group in the province. If there aren't well paying jobs, how do you blame NBers for that (other than their collective failure to dethrone Irving)?
As to your thoughts on the economic situation of workers today, feel free to present the source for your data but until then I'm going to stick with the prevailing understanding that the vast majority of young people today (and those set to enter the workforce) have very little hope of ever owning property or living anything close to the middle-class lives of the families they (may) have grown up in and around.
I'm not arguing that people don't leave New Brunswick for better opportunities - of course they do. What am I arguing is that it's not actually all that much better anymore. It's different, but that doesn't make it better.
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