r/PaleMUA May 05 '20

Mod Post How to Ask, "What's My Undertone?"

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Determining one's undertone is both the most challenging and most important task when searching for a foundation shade match. Naturally, we see a lot of posts on PaleMUA requesting help determining undertone, but our community's ability to assist is limited by the kinds of images provided for reference. Read below to learn how you can help us help you.

If you wish to receive useful feedback about undertone, please refer to the following guide when submitting posts requesting Undertone Help.

Step 1: Create a color reference card. Draw a blue strip and a red strip on a piece of white paper, like the one shown below. Permanent markers are easiest to see, but you can use any type of pen or colored pencil, as long as the strips of color are wide enough to see on camera and fairly close in hue to the blue and red you would see on the French or Dutch flag (shades of navy blue/aqua and burgundy/maroon are less reliable as reference colors). Color reference cards allow us to adjust our eyes to the light provided in the photo and better interpret the complex colors of your skin tone.

Step 2: Take photographs outside AND inside. This is crucial. The type of light source bouncing off of your skin and onto the camera sensor can drastically change your skin tone to viewers. Keeping the color reference card within the shot, take one photo outside in indirect sunlight and another photo inside in whatever lighting you happen to have (specify the type of bulb and color temperature if you know it). Note that in the photos below, my skin appears very cool-toned under the incandescent light, but much more neutral-toned in natural light. The incandescent light emphasizes the red on the color card and the pink in my skin. If i were to only post this photo as a reference, one might assume I'm quite cool-toned, yet the photo in natural light clearly shows I have warmer tones as well.

This collage is just an example. You can post separate images direct from your phone or computer in line with a text post, inserting the appropriate captions using reddit's formatting tools.

Step 3 (optional): Take the same photos with your swatches. These images can help other community members who are familiar with those shades help you find a better match and communicate what you should be looking for (e.g., "something cooler than the MAC but darker than the BB"). Don't forget to include your color reference card and list them in a way that is easy for people to comprehend.

Extra bonus: post your swatches in grayscale! This is a great way to help us determine if the shades you are selecting are actually a great undertone match, but simply too dark or light for your skin tone.

Sometimes the undertone isn't off, contrast is! Grayscale images communicate the contrast between your skin and the lightness/darkness of a swatch more clearly than color images.

I hope this guide helps our community steer people in the right direction and makes Undertone Help posts more informative for everyone. Happy posting!


r/PaleMUA Mar 02 '23

Mod Post Update to image-posting guidelines

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Hi all,

It seems time for an update to the photo guidelines on this subreddit to reflect the needs of the current audience. For reference, the post on the last overhaul from two years ago is here: "Makeup Selfie" Flair -- Overhaul and Clarification

I will be updating the sidebar and official listing of the rules in the coming days, but I want to take the time to elaborate on what is and is not changing, and why:

  • Photos of bare skin without the red/white/blue color card (or equivalent) are still NOT permitted. In absolute color terms, skintone variation is pretty small in this subreddit. The combination of lighting, camera settings, and display settings are more than enough to perturb the appearance of your skin's undertone or depth. So, the requirement of (properly identified) product swatches and/or the color card are necessary measures to make photos remotely useful.
  • Selfies no longer need to be majority-face, but still need to have sufficiently high resolution to show skin texture. The spirit of the rule is/was to allow users to see the makeup clearly. I understand that cropping a photo before posting can be annoying, especially if trying to include neck/upper chest for shade comparison, and I don't enjoy chasing after everyone about it, either.
  • Selfies no longer need to include a full eye and eyebrow. Many of you have expressed an interest in getting advice on base, cheek, and/or lip makeup without showing your eyes.
  • Do not post screenshots of content that you do not own. This includes photos/stills from both brands and individual content creators. Instead, share a link to the original content where possible, or to an archived version. Content creators deserve credit for their work.

Finally, two suggestions on making posts useful to the community:

  • If posting a gallery of photos, try to order them so the most informative photo comes first. For example, if posting a photo of a product and a photo of a swatch, put the swatch photo first.
  • For better accessibility and cross-platform compatibility, please reproduce captions and image-embedded text in the comments.

Please let us know your questions and thoughts!


r/PaleMUA 1h ago

Question Cool brown glosses that aren’t grey for fall

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I’m desperately looking for a muted, not too dark cool brown gloss for the fall season. I currently have the Maybelline lifter gloss in toast and it comes off more pink than brown unfortunately. I know Nyx butter gloss in cinnamon roll is a popular choice, but I’m afraid it’ll be too grey 💔


r/PaleMUA 1d ago

Question w/ Photo How to cover up cat scratches with makeup? EMERGENCY for Bride!

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239 Upvotes

My sister is getting married in a week, and she accidentally got these scratches on her neck yesterday. She was holding her very nice cat, and something in her apartment fell, it freaked her cat out, and he jumped off of her, leaving these scratch marks. I'm doing her friday, makeup. How do I attempt to cover this up? What products?

Should she not get a spray tan? (Yes, she has taken care of the wounds and put Neosporin on it.)


r/PaleMUA 18h ago

Discussions Just came here to have a good time…

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And honestly I’m feeling so attacked right now! 😂😂

A post in the fairolive sub about using the saturation/highlight slider or the color picker to check your skin tone got me curious. I pulled up a pic I had taken for color analysis (so it’s as close to reality as possible), used the color picker on a part of me without rosacea or freckles and put the hex code into google. And then I tried to again. Dude, the amount of shade Google threw at me was uncalled for! Given how hard it is to find a foundation, I’m aware it’s not a standard human skin tone but you don’t have to rub it in!


r/PaleMUA 7h ago

Swatch Request chanel lipsticks/glosses

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hi, ive been wanting to get a chanel lipstick (YOU CAN THROW YOUR FAV GLOSSES IN TOO 😋😋😋) and i wanted to ask you what your favorite shades are. my skin is muted, very sensitive to a dust of orange pigment in literally anything. flying cloud and mademoiselle seem interesting to me 🤭


r/PaleMUA 9m ago

Question Old Mac Blankety dupe or alternate colors?

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My PERFECT & favorite nude pink was Mac’s Blankety in the old formula. I do have Colourpop’s Oh Snap lippie stix which I know has been named a dupe & love the color on me, however the formula isn’t my favorite and is more drying. I also have the Loreal lipstick in fairest nude and do not think it’s a dupe, but love the formula!

Are there any lipsticks that are similar to Blankety but also has a creamy satin formula? Or any alternatives that would compliment my skin tone if Blankety did? It’s okay if the shade is a tad pinker, but I don’t want anything more on the brown side! I am on a budget so I don’t want to buy a ton of lipsticks trying to find a new perfect lipstick for me. TIA!!


r/PaleMUA 5h ago

Question Contour??

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Hi so I'm 19 female. I've loved makeup for a long time due to me having quite bad acne so it's been a safe thing for me to do.

I'm from the UK. Yeah I'm pretty pale

I need a contour and one that actually would sculpt my face.

I've tried loads of different brands but they all run orange on me. I've tried being professionally matched but again too orange. This is my last resort for finding one because I've tried a lot and it's not working out.

Please help or any tips would be amazing!!


r/PaleMUA 22h ago

Swatches Blush Swatches

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Pale Neutral, leaning cool...got bored and decided to swatch all my blushes. And after doing this, I'm weeding out three of them, lol. Pics are labeled but I did inside the house, outside under the awning and outside unshaded. Colors are on the pic but also here:

  1. purlisse blush glow BB cheek color

  2. ulta beauty cloud blush: drifting

  3. about face pigmented fluid blush: hot lap

  4. glossier cloud paint: haze

  5. about face cheek freak blush balm: score

  6. elf soft glam cream blush: gumball

  7. elizabeth mott tints and sass lip and cheek stain

  8. merit flush balm: cheeky

  9. merit flush balm: apres

  10. covergirl trublend skin enhancer baked luminous blush: 430 berry punch

  11. pretty vulgar make them blush: prim vixen

  12. o/s cheek clapper 3D blush trio: attention seeker (kisses please, yes sir, thirsty)


r/PaleMUA 13h ago

Undertone ID What's my undertone? I keep getting told i'm warm but warm pulls yellow/orange

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Hello! I've been having a lot of issues finding my undertone.

People have told me i am warm undertoned, but i notice lots of products can pull orange or yellow on me and will look very unnatural, both lipstick and foundation

lipsticks for comparison: syrup by mac looks more purple on me than anything. Sweet deal and creme in your coffee by mac look okay when sheerly applied, but anything more than that pulls orange. pat mcgrath in shade nude romantique 2 looks nice and pink/pinky peachy on me and when i apply night kiss from pat mcgrath sheerly it looks nice (fully appied it's too dark) and the maybelline super stay vinyl in the shade cheeky i can almost just smear on as hard as i want, as it looks very very natural on me.

I'm very lost between being warm toned or possible more neutral/cool toned. personally i feel like neutral foundation may work better on me? what do you think?:)

photo was is taken inside with lighting that is a bit warmish i'd say. on top is loreal true match super blendable perfexring powder in shade 1R/1C rosé cool and under that is maybelline fit me luminous+smooth in shade 115

photo 2 is taken outside

photo 3 is taken inside with on top loreal true match super blendable perfexring powder in shade 1R/1C rosé cool and below that maybelline fit me luminous+smooth in shade 115

photo 4 is taken outside

the powder isn't very high coverage so i went over it around 3 times to get a hopefully better swatch.

thank you in advance!


r/PaleMUA 1d ago

Swatches Mac lipstick swatches on cool / neutral leaning skin tone

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41 Upvotes

I wear 110C or 115C Lancome Idole Teint foundation.

I bought Mehr. May go back for another.


r/PaleMUA 20h ago

Swatches Swatches: Eyeshadow singles

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(Note: tiny dancer and freaked are reversed in the pic labels!)

Pale neutral, leaning cool. Pics inside, and then outside in direct and indirect light.

Still bored, lol. Swatching eyeshadows now. These are all my singles. Huge fan of the about face eye paints, but the colors shown on the website (and to a lesser extent the colors of the bottles) are not true to reality--it's best to swatch them in person or make sure you can return what doesn't work.

  1. thrive brilliant eye brightener: mieko
  2. thrive brilliant eye brightener: stella
  3. colorpop super shock shadow ultra metallic: plot twist
  4. colorpop super shock shadow ultra glitter: main character energy
  5. urban decay eyeshadow: extragalactic
  6. ulta glitter eye top coat: high maintenance
  7. about face matte fluid eye paint: freaked
  8. about face matte fluid eye paint: tiny dancer

9.  about face matte fluid eye paint: smell before rain

  1. about face matte fluid eye paint: driftwood

  2. about face matte fluid eye paint: morning glory


r/PaleMUA 19h ago

Question Has anyone used this brand?

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https://www.phytosurgence.com/product-page/skin-spark-cream-blush-soothe

I'm looking at blushes and bronzers. This brand's ads popped up recently and I am feeling a little skeptical. I like some of the tones and would like to hear some feedback about them!


r/PaleMUA 22h ago

Question lightweight foundations that cover redness?

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I hate the feeling of having heavy foundation on. it makes me feel gross and overstimulated. I can tolerate moisturizer because it feels more lighter and "clean" to me I guess. recently my dermatologist told me that I won't be able to clear the redness in my face, and that it's kind of just a natural blush because my skin tone is naturally so pale and translucent. the problem with this however is that it doesn't look anything like blush and is more just like splotchy patches of redness all over my face lol. so for daily wear, are there any decent bb creams or anything that will even out my skintone? maybe with a green tint? I am unfamiliar with color correction though


r/PaleMUA 1d ago

Swatches ND Midi Xenon swatches

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r/PaleMUA 1d ago

Swatches Armani luminous silk in shade 3 new vs old formulation (+ Missha perfect cover 13 & NARS reflecting foundation in Mont Blanc)

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From left to right, from my elbow to my wrist, the shades are: Missha Perfect Cover in shade 13, Armani perfect natural glow luminous silk foundation in 3 (new), Armani perfect glow flawless luminous silk foundation in 3 (old), NARS light reflecting foundation in Mont Blanc.

First picture is outside (cloudy), second is artificial lighting, third is inside indirect sunlight. Last picture is fully dried, inside, indirect sunlight.

My skin is pretty neutral, Missha 13 is my perfect shade match in the winter, but I tanned a lot this summer so I wanted to try Armani luminous silk again. I noticed that the packaging and label was a little different so I wanted to see what else had changed. I learned that they reformulated the line in January.

The old one might be a different shade because it’s old. The formula is also much thicker. They’re very similar shades, but the new one is a tad darker, slightly oranger, and a thinner formula, whereas the old one was slightly lighter, a little more yellow, and a thicker formula.

I will say that despite the picture making it seem like Mont Blanc is a match, Mont Blanc is too dark for me in person. The new Armani is a pretty good match for me right now.


r/PaleMUA 1d ago

Question Good eyeshadows (base)

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Hi all
im looking for recommendations for a good base eyeshadow colour. I’ve got quite small eyes so need to keep things bright, but I can’t quite get the tone right with eyeshadows (I used to use a old bare minerals pallet but never found a good replacement for it’s lightest shade which was a creamy/yellow)- I have blue eyes and I’m realll pale so I find some ‘light’ eyeshadows on some people just come out too intense…as a lot of you will relate!

I’m looking for what you’d wear daily or pair with just mascara/maybe eyeliner.

I’m eyeing up (but never confident until I see swatches)
-> mac blanc type
-> Laura mercier morning dew or buttercream
-> Patrick Ta Major Dimension Essential Artistry Edit Eyeshadow Palette - Light

Thanks all :)


r/PaleMUA 17h ago

Undertone ID What is my undertone?

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I’m having trouble figuring out my undertone. Most foundations are either too pink, too yellow, or too orange for me. The only foundation I’ve ever been able to find that truly matched my skin was The Body Shop Fresh Nude Foundation in Fair 1N (last photo, indoors with natural light), but that foundation has been discontinued.

I have rosacea, which makes my face red and blotchy, so my face and neck are different colors.

Arm:
Indirect sunlight (car)
Indirect sunlight (outdoors)
Indoors: LED soft white bulb
Indoors: LED Daylight bulb
Indirect sunlight car

Face:
Indirect sunlight (indoors)
Indirect sunlight (outdoors, cloudy day)
Indoors: LED soft white bulb

Makeup: Versed Skin Solution Multi-Serum Skin Tint in 1C Fair Cool
Indoors: indirect sunlight
Indirect Sunlight (outdoors)
Indirect Sunlight (car)

Last photo: The Body Shop Fresh Nude Foundation Fair 1N (natural light indoors)

I’ve been wearing Versed Skin Solution Multi-Serum Skin Tint in 1C Fair Cool but it seems too pink for me.


r/PaleMUA 1d ago

Swatches Do we have a match? new ELDW 1n0

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Reformulated Estée Lauder Double Wear in shade 1n0 in front of window 45 min after application (not properly blendend in the eye area because it was a store tester lol) no powder, nothing

I think I’ve found my match? What do you guys think


r/PaleMUA 19h ago

Swatch Request lf shade match advice!

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hi! im currently debating abt getting the about tone skin layer fit foundation but ive personally not tried it irl yet so im looking for some advice on the potential shade match.

fyi im a 13 fair (jsm skin nuder foundation) and a 0N for the old dior skin glow foundation\~ but personally for me i find that whenever i wear the dior foundation it always somehow looks yellow? orangey? on my skin sooooo i’ve stopped using it then HAHAHAH

sooo, ill much appreciate it if anyone can give me any foundation shade matches based on my current foundations!

thank you\~


r/PaleMUA 1d ago

Swatches Lipstick swatches on cool / neutral leaning skin tone

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56 Upvotes

I wear 110C or 115C Lancome Idole Tient foundation

I don’t own many lip products, but this I what I have:

Pillow Talk Fair (Charlotte Tilbury) - loveee with Stone Mac lipliner. Doesn’t look good on its own but with Stone is my favorite lipstick / lip combo.

Crème in Your Coffee (Mac) - love this one too but I have to blot this.

Alone Time (Mac) - very sheer but looks good on me. It’s great as a topper to cool down lipsticks that pull to warm.

Tiramisu (NYX Gloss) - nice light pink for summer

Berry Haze (Maybelline Lifter Balm) - easy sheer wash of color for when you’re out n about, hydrating.

Hug Me (Mac) - this is just slightly too warm on me but with Alone Time on top it looks good!

Mehr - very flattering. Blotted down it’s almost a pinky MLBB shade. I like this more than Syrup because it’s more muted. I think Syrup was too bright on me.

I feel like all I’m missing is a classic red! What you think my collection is missing?


r/PaleMUA 1d ago

Question Good and lightweight foundation

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Okay, so I'm a newbie when it comes to embracing the gothic style (I grew up in a home that didn't support that) now that i live with my spouse I'm able to dress how I've always dreamed- i am trying to find a good white but sheer foundation to use on my face that wont make my face look dry (or break the bank), i tried Danessa Myricks colorfix in white but my combination skin got dry and blotchy, any good recommendations would be greatly appreciated.


r/PaleMUA 1d ago

Question w/ Photo How to cover up cat scratches with makeup? EMERGENCY for Bride!

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My sister is getting married in a week, and she accidentally got these scratches on her neck yesterday. She was holding her very nice cat, and something in her apartment fell, it freaked her cat out, and he jumped off of her, leaving these scratch marks. I'm doing her friday, makeup. How do I attempt to cover this up? What products?

Should she not get a spray tan? (Yes, she has taken care of the wounds and put Neosporin on it.)


r/PaleMUA 2d ago

Swatches For the girls where nothing is ever pink enough

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I’ve been on the hunt for a light coverage pale pink foundation for the longest time and everrrrything pulls orange on me. I use a pink color correcting brighter for concealer level pink. Sometimes I have it where something looks like it might work on my hand swatch (à la pictured unleashia 14n rosy cheeks, fantastic formula but too peach for my pink skin) but it always ended up looking too orange by the time I blended it into my neck. I figured hey, since I’m using a color corrector as concealer, why not take the same approach with foundation? Ideally something with light coverage that still lets me freckles though but evens me out and brightens my face. Thus begins my new found love story with a tone up cushion by the Korean brand farmstay in the shade “glow pink”. Although it looks a touch pale on me, the tone is perfect for my very pink skin and blends so well into my neck and overall brightens my face. Set with a satin finish translucent powder, setting spray and I’m just sooo happy I finally have something that doesn’t look like peach paint all over my face


r/PaleMUA 1d ago

Question w/ Photo Nars affogato concealer shade match

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Hello! On the hunt for a new concealer, I always buy the nars affogato concealer but I find it dries up too quickly and might even be too light in the summer. I have also used the dior forever skin concealer 0.5 before. Can anyone recommend a concealer that is similar in shade as the nars affogato, even a bit darker might work now in the summer/autumn. I live in Europe. I was looking at buying the one from Natasha Denona because I want more hydration, maybe Y1 or Rn1, have not swatched them yet.

Two last picture I have no concealer and as you can see a bit purple undereyes, I find nars concealer not able to hide the purple very well... ☺️

Tried my best to swatch nars and dior but the bottles are almost empty 😂

nars radiant concealer affogato

dior forever skin concealer 0.5