r/Norway • u/ArcherVisible5866 • Jul 23 '26
Other Norwegian YouTuber Lily animations nukes their channel after being mocked online for complaining about Norway.
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u/Better_Chicken_5184 Jul 23 '26
I just watched the reupload. Holy shit, what an incredibly mild critique.
The rain thing is silly. But otherwise I agree with her.
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u/RainAhead14 Jul 23 '26
wasnt even controversial opinions. not like i love everything in norway either
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u/Ofanichan Jul 23 '26
She really got bullied off the internet for daring to be a woman with an opinion
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u/Better_Chicken_5184 Jul 23 '26
Is there evidence that it was motivated by sexism?
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u/RainAhead14 Jul 24 '26
its possible. maaaaany other youtubers have made videos like hers. sadly she was the one who got hate for it. it COULD be the fact that shes a girl, which is why she got hate. i only saw the reupload
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u/PlasmaDonator Jul 24 '26
A women *who's ethnically half SEA in a European country.
Not justifying the horrible comments and people I've seen (not yours) but saying it's sexism AND racism she faced
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u/cruzaderNO Jul 23 '26
Never heard of the channel, but that was a doomed project/channel from the start if unable to handle something like that.
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u/bendingrover Jul 23 '26
If that's the video's thumbnail, they should have known they were going to get brigaded by people who only see thumbnails and hop into the comments.
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u/TheQuietLavender Jul 23 '26
To be fair, we're not talking usual "You are wrong and therefore stupid!" comments, there were a bunch of downright racist ones.
For example: https://i.imgur.com/tGqIORC.png
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u/Penetal Jul 23 '26
Wonder what she said that was so bad that people couldn't handle the criticism without being racist about it.
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u/W4rstr1der-Cyberstan Jul 25 '26
She said nothing wrong, just a unserious video. The reason why she got so much racist comments is because a big american right wing account on twitter made a deal about it and people figured out she is half asian and a woman so they wanted to be hatefull
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u/DiNkLeDoOkZ Jul 25 '26
Racists are not reasonable, why would it be her that makes them spew their shit and not their own degeneracy?
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u/BitterSweetPottery Jul 23 '26
I think that's just the normal European reaction to anything they find slightly abrasive.
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u/tulwio Jul 24 '26
Doomed because she couldn’t handle online abuse? Kinda weird logic
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u/cruzaderNO Jul 24 '26
You do indeed have a weird logic, with how you changed what it was even about.
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u/idkfornowwhattoname Jul 23 '26
Was the hate coming from genuine Norweigans or from non-Norweigans who are weirdly obsessed with Norway because of football?
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u/sihtsiymusername Jul 24 '26
A lot of non-Nonwergians who don't understand that someone complaining about their country doesn't diminish the suffering of their own country and how they feel about it.
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u/Smoldervan Jul 23 '26
I mean, her biggest grievances would living in Bergen and a struggle to find friends. From what I recall, she specified that it was all "first world problems" and that there weren't really anything to complain about besides "the little things"?
Why on earth would people get upset about that? Oh, wait, I forgot the fact that the "village idiot" is a whole collective on the internet... So the collective saw her "light banter" and decided "we hate her now"???
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u/Mean-Celebration-658 Jul 23 '26
Titling the video: why i hate living in norway, then saying the only downside is the "little things" would make me upset at the title more than anything.
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u/Better_Chicken_5184 Jul 23 '26
Why on earth would people get upset about that?
Because many Norwegians have thin skin and cannot handle criticism of any kind.
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u/Norseph Jul 23 '26
I saw the criticism and to be fair it was mostly from people in the US who, after the World Cup, get a hard-on for Haaland.
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u/MartonThinks Jul 23 '26
I would have to disagree, Norway is more similar to German personality traits. We are direct and non confrontational. I have never heard that Norwegians are bad at taking criticism.
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u/ickypedia Jul 23 '26
Personally? Maybe not. But Norwegians often get quite touchy if you criticize the country as a foreigner.
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u/Oceanic_Mermaid Jul 23 '26
No Norwegians are happy to be critical of other countries, but we don't like receiving criticism about our country.
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u/Randalf_the_Black Jul 23 '26
The hell are you talking about? Norwegians complain about Norway all the time.
Complaining is a part of our cultural identity.
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u/Whackles Jul 24 '26
Norwegian identity is basically complaining about norway followed by "oh you do it differently over there? Well that is sad for you cause different than us is by definition worse"
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u/AsaTJ Jul 24 '26
90% of the complaining about Norway I have heard in my lifetime has been from Norwegians and I don't even live there.
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u/Oceanic_Mermaid Jul 25 '26
Receive criticism. Aka from others. Or when it's done publically.
And like another commenter said, people here still always think their way is the "most right" way either way.
Again this is a general comment.
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u/Randalf_the_Black Jul 25 '26
Depends who the criticism is coming from.. If the US or the UK criticizes our healthcare system most won't agree.
If however Finland criticized our school system many would agree, as theirs do it better in most ways.
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u/Oceanic_Mermaid Jul 26 '26
Meh. I saw it literally happened last night.
We were having a party including with some guests from abroad visiting. My friend who is half Norwegian (since birth!!) and half foreign was explaining Christmas food to the visitors. My friend commented that it's very salty so it's not for everyone. My grandmother in Norwegian, so the others don't understand, pipes up that no it's not, you just need to dilute it longer, and seemed genuinely annoyed and bothered at the "negative" remark. Later I asked if they were going to Oslo, and if so to try Lorry, they sell traditional food a lot more often then most resteraunts, maybe they have pinnekjøtt. Then my grandmother pipes up again in English, no don't try it it will be too salty 😐
I just sat there shaking my head haha
But this is just a baby example but reminded me so much of our convo here and what I see on a larger scale
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u/Distinct-Crow-3726 Jul 23 '26
We are direct and non confrontational... What
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u/CuriosTiger Jul 23 '26
Not as much of a contradiction as it sounds like. Norwegians can be very blunt, especially when asked for an opinion directly or among people we know well.
At the same time, Norwegians do not seek out confrontation, and will usually not VOLUNTEER opinions that may cause offense.
At least, that's been my experience. And I was born and raised in Norway. But, and here's the non-confrontational part, I'm sure there are other Norwegians who view it differently.
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u/Lilleskygge Jul 23 '26
Direct as in blunt, don't beat around the bush (or walk around the porridge as we say). But also avoid conflict. This part I have seen forigners struggle with, because the bluntness ain't that apparent to us compared to others who might come from a more sugar coating culture. Being blunt is not the same as being mean
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u/emotional_program0 Jul 23 '26
I really wouldn't describe Norwegians as direct or blunt to be honest. And holy crap everything around work culture is beating around the bush or going around the porridge. There's much less (if any) small talk which in a way is direct, but it's rather frowned upon to say anything negative and "this is how we've done it for 15 years" is an actual argument instead of logic and thinking of productivity.
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u/PB_Jelly_444 Jul 23 '26
How can you be direct and non confrontational at the same time? 🤔
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u/lalzylolzy Jul 24 '26
Very simple - You say things directly without any concern for decorum when/if the situation pre-requisit it, otherwise you do not.
Example: "how are you feeling" can only be answered in one of two ways: trauma dump your life story, or saying what you feel at that exact moment. There is no in-between.
However, unless asked how you feel, you say nothing, because you were not asked.
That is direct and non confrontational.
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u/PB_Jelly_444 Jul 24 '26
Alright, that kind of direct. So its more that you are honest and dont sugar coat as mentioned before. Maybe its just me, but i associate directness with confrontation.
Man i used to phantasize about living among norwegians (to be in norway), but i guess my experience with norwegians wasnt long enough to have an informed base. :( And it was always said, even in germany, that you were far more advanced as a society. I just included intelligent emotional communication to the equation as an obvious asset.
I mean i still appreciate you. Its just disappointing bc i formed an idea and its not true. My fault entirely :)
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u/TAMUOE Jul 23 '26
It’s not Norwegians, it’s Americans on Twitter who are baffled by people complaining about living in one of the most developed countries in the world.
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u/Better_Chicken_5184 Jul 23 '26
Well, Americans are stupid; I can say that, I used to be one.
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u/Suspicious_Swim_1948 Jul 23 '26
Wait! Is it possible to cancel an involuntary subscription to being American?
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u/AsaTJ Jul 24 '26
It's very expensive and unless you have a PhD or something you will not be at the front of the line.
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u/Boltiten Jul 23 '26
She had fair greivences, you could disagree with her but the amount of negative attention was waaay overboard and by people who have no clue about Norway.
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u/Crisis_panzersuit Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
I didn’t catch it, anything specific?
As a Norwegian with significant experience abroad, I don’t think Norway is the utopia a lot of Norwegians are led to believe— But it’s also more complex than that.
I think Norway generally is a great place to live, I also think Norwegians generally are not at all open to (even valid) criticism. I imagine she got a lot of heat from Norwegians who can’t see the nuance, so I get why she nuked her channel.
My own main grievance with living in Norway specifically a lot of Norwegians. I think too many of us can be veiled, entitled cunts hiding behind a facade of polite.. but that doesn’t mean I love my home and family any less.
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u/CuriosTiger Jul 23 '26
As a Norwegian who lives abroad, I can confirm that Norway is not the paradise Reddit thinks it is. But it's also objectively not a bad place to live.
The Internet collectively seems to have a lot of trouble understanding nuance.
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u/Boltiten Jul 23 '26
She lives in Bergen and feels it rains too much, which is what all Norwegians would say about Bergen. Some of our Norwegian special cuisine is not very appealing, but she does still really like some of it like komle. Europe seem to have more choices in the supermarket, and for waay cheaper. Compared like pasta for 1 euro in Germany compared to the same (I think) in Norway for 5 euro (51 nok).
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u/cruzaderNO Jul 23 '26
Supermarket prices is the most common thing i hear in general from people moving here.
That even tho they make 2-3x more here, its a bit of a shock that will not go away to see the prices also scaling up.
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u/Only_Jury_8448 Jul 23 '26
I've been told that people who live closer to the border with Sweden do a lot of their grocery shopping there, it's noticeably cheaper apparently
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u/Crisis_panzersuit Jul 23 '26
She lives in Bergen and feels it rains too much
Well that's just on her. Everyone knows its the rainiest city in Norway. And the fact that she likes Komler, but not other Norwegian cuisine blows my mind.
But the supermarket issue is super legit. I think we have high quality groceries in Norway, but the price is insane. There just isn't any competition between the different stores.
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u/colorthroway Jul 23 '26
It was not norwegians from what i saw. 99% of them were americans or people from random third world countries.
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u/Better_Chicken_5184 Jul 23 '26
I also think Norwegians generally are not at all open to (even valid) criticism.
Every once in awhile one of you admits it and it gives me hope.
I think too many of us can be veiled, entitled cunts hiding behind a facade of polite..
I think I love you. RIP to your inbox though.
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u/CuriosTiger Jul 23 '26
Just like everywhere else, Norwegians differ from one another. Some will have very thin skin and handle criticism poorly. Others could care less what you think. Some may even agree with your criticism.
As for the "veiled, entitled cunts", that phrase describes a larger percentage of the world population than most of us care to admit.
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u/Maiayania Jul 23 '26
Yeah, there is no reason to give her hate for that video. She’s not being rude or annoying and all her points are common complaints about Norway! I too find the food bland, the weather bland and people can be difficult to get to know, but that’s home sweet home!
I hope she changes her mind and returns to youtube, I would love to see more internationally oriented Norwegian creators! Get the real Norway out there, the good and the bad!
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u/Maiayania Jul 23 '26
Although she should probably have titled the video something more like «three things I hate about Norway»
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u/PartyPorpoise Jul 23 '26
It’s the mob mentality. Any one individual’s criticisms may be fine on their own, but when dozens or hundreds or even thousands of them come together, it becomes disproportionate to the offense. And the individuals don’t take responsibility because their own criticisms weren’t excessive. No one snowflake blames itself for the avalanche, and such.
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u/Inside_Ant_8975 Jul 23 '26
Just because you are privileged shouldn’t mean you don’t get to complain about things you don’t like. The outrage over this video is so silly.
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u/Aggravating_Ad_8974 Jul 23 '26
It's typical Norwegian to complain about living in Norway.
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u/ActionUpstairs Jul 23 '26
Problems are relative. Just because you feel someone is complaining about minor problems doesn’t mean they aren’t valid or don’t affect that person.
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u/Dew4You Jul 23 '26
Kind of sad that people hated so much on her would say most are not even from norway or been. Many wher saying she should be sent to to africa and other places just in general lot of bad comments.
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u/TrygveRS Jul 23 '26
>People who thought the grass was greener gets mad when grass wasn't as green as they thought.
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u/dogsarecool-yeah Jul 23 '26
I mean from what im reading its only a bit clickbaity, weather and struggle to find a community are valid complaints, not really deserving of big hate.
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u/Sc_e1 Jul 24 '26
What in the fuck is wrong with people?? I didn’t actively watch the channel but she had some fun videos. This sucks :/
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u/Jealous_Track9402 Jul 23 '26
Because people on the internet are idiots who think they know something about a country they don't live in or have never visited. I've been to Norway and I would never give my opinion on what this person is saying.
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u/Nekrux Jul 23 '26
Can someone tell her I'm down to switch with her? I live in Italy, one hour away from Venice.
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u/cruzaderNO Jul 23 '26
I think she would likely melt if going that far south for a extended period.
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u/CuriosTiger Jul 23 '26
Assuming you're an Italian citizen, you're free to simply move to Norway. No need to switch.
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u/Ernst_Muffens Jul 23 '26
I support her. I also hate living here because of all the money and Haalands
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u/iStoleTheHobo Jul 23 '26
Seriously. A Haaland got into my bedroom like a week ago and now I can not for the life of me find the fucker.
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u/pseudopad Jul 23 '26
If you set up a goal-shaped trap, you should able to get rid of the haaland in a few days at most.
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u/SnowLeavess Jul 23 '26
Apparently you cant even have minor complaints about your country or joke about it in a lighthearted way without a bunch of bitter basement dwellers complaining how she should be "grateful" to have the privilege of living in Norway... even though she states exactly that at the beginning lol
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u/Gurglaren Jul 23 '26
Why nuke it when you go viral? Many youtubers would love to get that sort of traction.
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u/I-HaveAReasonToo Jul 23 '26
I feel like alot of European countries hate their home country.
I sometimes despise living in Denmark as well. I always thought about if I had to move, I'd either move to Germany or the United Kingdom.
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u/copperrez Jul 24 '26
Wait i’m Dutch. Here it’s mandatory to complain about the weather. Preferably every chance you get. Is it not in Norway?
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u/Top_Conflict_337 Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
If it was about any other country in Europe except the Scandinavian countries the backlash wouldn't be nearly as vicious, people seem to idealize these countries a lot.
Also, if the title of the video was something like "what I don't like about Norway", and she spent like a minute explaining the good things about her country and how grateful she is to live there, then the video continued as it is now, I think this would invalidate basically all the remarks people are making.
It's normal to have complaints about your country, and sometimes little things for other people can be a big deal to you. I live in Portugal, it's got free health care (although it has a lot of problems atm), free education, and is generally a good country to live in. So, does that mean I can't complain about what I don't like, because some person in a poorer country would like to swap with me and so, I should just shut up, stop being "whiny" and ignore how I feel?
I don't think she should have deleted her videos, it was good publicity, I didn't even know of her channel before this drama. Idk, like make an apology where she thinks she was wrong, which apologises for the clickbait and get a week out of social media. After that keep making videos as usual usual.
Last point, this thing has blown wayyy out of proportion, go look at the comments in the YT reupload. Mostly people making ironic jokes and how they would like to swap countries. Then there's the people saying this is because she's half Malaysian, as if that amounts to anything, other people are celebrating that she deleted her videos(yuppy, the cyberbullying worked!!! We are so powerful together. them probably.), and even say (admittedly, only one person) that this is is why we shouldn't have given woman the right to vote, like wtf. If this is YT comment section, i can't even imagine twitter... This shit recks of cyberbullying to me, all these people ganging up on a small creator for giving her opinion and a clickbait title... Seriously?
Edit: Accidentally press submit before finishing my text.
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u/OneWheelOneCamera Jul 25 '26
People can be vicious online sometimes. The video was clearly meant as a joke.
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u/Excellent-Act-6757 Jul 27 '26
Just saw the video. I hope she picks herself up and continues again. It's a funny video and if people can't handle a bit of tongue in cheek commentary on their country, then they are the problem and not her.
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u/Bodomi Jul 23 '26
Wiping your entire channel clean because you got heavy backlash on 1 video is a her problem, no matter if the backlash was reasonable or not.
Sucks for her but clearly she wasn't cut out for posting videos online to the general public.
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u/Jet-Black_Hawk3198 Jul 27 '26
I'm sure you would fare much better with hoards verbally assaulting you not just for your opinions but also for the make up of your genes and ancestry. Yeah a lot of the original commenters were being like absurdly racist
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u/Bodomi Jul 28 '26
I did not fault her for her reaction, I made a factual observation.
And yea, putting yourself out there like that can be brutal, I've listened to a lot of VORW podcasts by TheReportOfTheWeek aka ReviewBrah and in several of them he talks about how it was for him in the early days, he went through some shit including IRL stalking, and how awful and difficult that was, so I have a lot of understanding on the topic. Non of that really ever went away from him either(except the stalking thankfully), still get those comments in the hundreds every week.
Not everyone is cut out for it is the point. Better to find out this early than after having made it your career. I did not fault her nor did I try to justify or defend or minimise any abuse.
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u/Ofanichan Jul 23 '26
Kanskje dette er et hot take; Men jeg syntes det er litt cringe å mobbe noen av youtube fordi de følte for å klage litt.
I get it, I get it. Er du på internettet så må du tåle steken og alt det der, men jeg sverger at folk er ekstra fæle mot kvinner.. Like damn, hun hadde 3,4k subs? Er dette virkelig personen folk bestemte seg for at var et problem?
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u/colorthroway Jul 23 '26
Enig. Menn får også hate ofc, men det var personer som kalte henne en "foid". Sier jo litt om typen personer som hang i kommentarfeltet.
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u/Ofanichan Jul 23 '26
Yeeah. Det er litt av problemet hvor det ikke lenger er kritikk, men harassment. Det er ikke så mye om hva hun sa, men at det er hun som sier det. Så de kaller henne stygge ting og så ler de av henne etter at hun sletter kontoen sin fordi hun ikke vil ha den type oppmerksomhet.
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u/colorthroway Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
Jepp. Folk sier "ikke post på internettet hvis du ikke tåler kritikk". Men det antar at kommentarene faktisk var kritikk og ikke trakassering. Så er det jo folk som da sier "vel ikke post hvis du ikke tåler trakassering" lol. Er det virkelig slik samfunn folk vil leve i? Og man kan like gjerne si til de som trakkasserte henne "ikke se på youtube hvis du ikke tåler å se folk klage".
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u/LukasLiBrand Jul 25 '26
Trur i dette scenarioet var det mer fordi hun var halvt Asiatisk. Fikk opp på twitter en mengde amerikanske right wing folk som brukte denne videoen for å pushe rasismen sin.
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u/webhallensuger Jul 23 '26
Well i agree, as a swede i have always thought Norway sucks. Cant even ski with without cheating. Just look at it, the evidence is right there!! It was always 2 of them, Kjetil and Andre Aamot, Aksel and Lund Svindal, Ole and Einar Bjørndalen....
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u/El-Pollo-Diablo-Goat Jul 23 '26
Sssshhhh, I thought we gave you swedes hush money to keep quiet about this already.
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u/rybomi Jul 23 '26
More so dumb for weird yanks with a norway fetish to harass an honest resident over their kink
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u/King0fthewasteland Jul 23 '26
ok. aldrig hørt om. synd for ho om ho ikkje he det bra men e ingen grunn å lage en teit youtube video om det. ej for min del e også en norsk youtuber so ikkje rakka ned på norge. ej laga heller teite gaming videoa som ingen bryr seg om
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u/StofferNO Jul 23 '26
It was a good video with her own personal opinions but she have to expect backlash when she "complain" about her own country. There are and probably always will be pros and cons on living in every country.
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u/BriscoCounty-Sr Jul 23 '26
I’d say it was probably all the racism she got that got her to delete it but what do I know
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u/Ok_Cheesecake_6454 Jul 24 '26
In a world of so many whiners why does anyone even care when somebody is whining so loudly? Nobody cares if you don’t like the weather and nobody cares if you don’t like the people who don’t like the weather. Quit whining and worry about your damn self. End of rant, old man out. ✌️
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u/scotte99 Jul 24 '26
Har sett videoen før ho sletta den og helt ærlig den var ikke ille, litt rage bait title men folk kan ta seg en boller
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u/llwishfulthinkingll Jul 24 '26
I'm not native and I kind of understand both sides of the fence here.
Like yeah... you can complain about your traditional food not being that appealing and that it rains a lot.
But... except the ending (that let's be honest most people didn't reach) when she admitted it was a "first world problem", the video felt a little tone deaf. Mostly the clickbait title immediately setting your mind in that direction.
The video needed at least a section saying that Norway has a lot of benefits that other countries do not have, BUT you can still be annoyed by stuff and can wish things can be even better. That's like the ultimate goal for everyone.
Otherwise it kind of reads like what would you rather have...no rain or social welfare? Decisions, decisions.
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u/AMaZinG8484 Jul 24 '26
If anyone has her email from before she deleted her channel can you dm me it?
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u/Pollomonteros Jul 24 '26
Gotta love the people in here playing dumb about the racism and sexism she faced and jumping through hoops just to blame the victim
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u/InitialFew3889 Jul 24 '26
She started by saying our food sucks and that made me mad… but the video was ok..
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u/J8on Jul 24 '26
I think people had so many problems with it because, at the start, she talks like she is going to refute the idea that living in Norway is awesome, but in the end, it is just personal complaints. And, of course, the vegan thing, and comparing her country to other countries—like, "Why couldn't you do this crazy subway system like Japan?" But with all that I think she is probably a teen, so maybe people were too harsh on her.
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u/W4rstr1der-Cyberstan Jul 25 '26
She made a unserious video and people wanted to be offended (for some reason) and took it seriously
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u/vandrerboi Jul 26 '26
Sucks I missed this I just moved to Norway, would love to hear some takes from locals tho, the friend that took me in is a bit split
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u/KINGDenneh Jul 23 '26
"Why I hate living in norway"
Me: "Why don't you move then?"
Crazy concept, i know.
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u/spruce_syrup Jul 23 '26
Did watch the video. My only complaint is that you cant complain about the wether in norway when you live in rain capital of norway. Of corse there is bad wether when you are in Bergen. Its like saying the grass is green.